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Your pleas for help & guidance in this matter is indicative of God speaking to you by His Spirit. As the Bible says in John 16:8, "And when he (the Spirit) is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgement". That is the Holy Spirit Who does more than being the Comforter, Guide & Minister to our spirits; He also convicts whenever sin enters in, He speaks to us of right (holy) living, & He warns of God's Judgement. Many reject God & His Gospel & are headed for certain fiery judgement, even when they feel the tug upon their hearts. But you have not only sensed that 'tug' in your spirit, but now wanting to set things right - and this is the first step to healing & restoration.
We have a saying: "there is no sin that His Blood cannot cover". Jesus' Blood shed for you, was applied when you first came to Him & still avails for you even now. Jesus said in John 6:37, "All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out." This is His Promise that the salvation He gave you, not only made you a child of God, but also promises that your Father, Who longs for His prodigal daughter to return, is not willing to reject you for anything.
Come to Him just as you are, read the Scriptures (maybe John's Gospel), praying & seeking forgiveness - let His Spirit speak to you through them - He WILL assure your heart.
Is jesus literally saying man should eat his flesh and drink his blood
John 6:57 "he who feeds on me" translated to he who believes him/accepts him/and participates in Eucharist...will live
"And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Genesis 3:9
"And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou?"
First thing God said, "Where art thou?"
We should not be moved from the scriptures that gave us faith.
We need to hold fast to them.
John 6:63
"And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day."
King James Bible
Death and life are in the power of the tongue: and they that love it shall eat the fruit thereof
Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
John 6:70
"Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?"
2 Timothy 4:3
"For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;"
Matthew 13:37
He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;
The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one
My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. ( 1 John 2:1-2)
For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. ( John 3:17)
All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day. ( John 6:37-40)
I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture. The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly. ( John 10:9-10)
There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. ( Romans 8:1-2)
Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded. Be afflicted, and mourn, and weep: let your laughter be turned to mourning, and your joy to heaviness. Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up. ( James 4:8-10)
In 1 John 2:1, Jesus is our advocate, much like a defense attorney, defending us before the throne of God against the condemnation.
Read Psalm 51 to see that David was in a situation where his sin separated him from God. He could not bear it so he confessed and pleaded with the LORD to restore the joy of his salvation.
The prodigal son in Luke 15 deliberately departed from the way until his abject misery brought him to his senses. He was then welcomed back heartily by his loving father.
Satan the accuser would celebrate your being so overcome with despair that you become swallowed up in it and give it up.
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. ( 1 John 1:9)
All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. ( John 6:37)
After this many of his disciples TURNED BACK and no longer walked with him
(Jesus).
HEBREWS 10
How much worse punishment, do you think, will be deserved by the one who has spurned the Son of God, and has profaned the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and has outraged the Spirit of grace?
Hosea 14:4
I will heal their apostasy; I will love them freely, for my anger has turned from them.
Revelation 3:16
So, because you are lukewarm, and NEITHER hot nor cold, I will spit you out of my mouth.
2 Timothy 2:18
Who have SWERVED from the truth, saying that the resurrection has already happened. They are upsetting the faith of some.
Book of Jude 1:
For certain people have crept in unnoticed who long ago were designated for this condemnation, ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into sensuality and deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.
Matthew 10:33
But whoever denies me before men, I also will deny before my Father who is in heaven.
Hebrews 9:28
So Christ, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time, NOT TO DEAL WITH SIN, but to save those who are eagerly waiting for him.
2 Thessalonians 2:3
Let no one deceive you in any way. For that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction
Hebrews 3:12
Take care, brothers, lest there be in any of you an evil, unbelieving heart, leading you to fall away from the living God.
Galatians 1:8-9
But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I SAY AGAIN, If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you (first) received, let him be accursed.
Translated that distance very quickly( instantaneously?) by God?
Similar to the story of Jesus in the boat and storm being translated " immediately" to their destination? John 6:21
Does this answer the Q " How did the animals get to and from Noah's ark during the flood story?
They were translated there by God? Vs they migrated there......how would the kangaroo from Australia
get to and from the ark of Noah if HE didn't do it " immediately" ?
Rob,
You seem to not want to believe that Christ existed before he was born in Bethlehem. Which is all through the Bible. He is the Son of God. With many other names too. Can you explain some of these verses with your interpretations?
Ephesians 3:9 - And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:
Colossians 1:13-20
Hebrews 1:1-2- God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
John 3:12- If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things? (Jesus knowing about things of Heaven, if His Spirit had not been there before?)
John 6:38-39- For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of Him that sent me. And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
Revelations 19:13- And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
In Revelations God says he is the Alpha and Omega. Also Jesus Christ says He is the Alpha and Omega.
There's more also. If you can't believe things in the Holy Scriptures. Ok, I don't look down on anyone. But please don't say we're making these things up or have a false view. It's not that hard to see. Especially with the Holy Ghost.
God Bless everyone. Have a wonderful day!
We all know, or the ones this is pointed towards, that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. "The firstborn among many brethren".
Just one question. You stated this "If you have a verse that proves Jesus Born in Bethlehem was in heaven before then you have a valid point." Is John 6:38-39 not enough? Which to me looks like the exact answer to the statement you made.
How's Revelations 19:13. That is supposed to be Christ at His second coming. Correct?
I'll state this. I believe it is quiet over simplified of people saying "Jesus and God are the same thing". I don't Believe that and don't agree with it. They most definitely are a part of one another. Jesus Christ even said in John 14:28 "I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I." Many other things I could quote that shows they are unique to each other. But as in 1 John 5:7 "these three are one." The Father, the Son(or Word), and the Holy Ghost are all a part of the Eternal Godhead.
Jesus Christ is the Son of God that was born from a virgin, on earth, in the flesh, in Bethlehem. What about John the baptizer stating in John 1:15 "John bare witness of him(Jesus), and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me."
May the Lord Bless us to all come together and have faith and trust in Him. I would never call myself smart. All Glory to the Father. Love one another my brothers and sisters. God Bless us all!
"I am the living bread which has come down from heaven. Anyone who eats this bread will live for ever;
and the bread that I shall give is my flesh, for the life of the world.'" John 6:51-51
"In all truth I tell you, whoever keeps my word will never see death." John 8:51-51
"Let anyone who can hear, listen to what the Spirit is saying to the churches: for those who prove
victorious will come to no harm from the second death." Rev 2:11-11
John 3:13 "And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven."
John 6:38-39 "For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of Him that sent me. And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day."
There may be more. Hope this helps a little. God Bless.
The Word of God is God ( John 1:1) and not for any private interpretation ( 2 Peter 1:20). If it records in Rev. 12:9 that this whole world has been deceived, it did not speak of a particular country, group of people, person or religion, it meant the whole world.
Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? Whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God ( James 4:4).
The believers are not of this world. For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith ( 1 John 5:4).
Additional readings as confirmation.
John 7:7; 8:23; 15:19; 17:9,14,16; 18:36.
Romans 12:2.
1 Cor. 2:12; 3:19. 2 Cor. 6:17.
Galatians 1:4.
Ephesians 2:2.
1 John 2:15; 4:5; 5:4.
The Word of God is God ( John 1:1) and the scriptural references we use serve as confirmation that it is not us that speak, but the Spirit of our Father that speaketh in us ( 2 Samuel 23:2; Matthew 10:20; Acts 4:8; 6:10).
The believers and followers of the true Christ do not involve themselves in the affairs of this world.
God cannot be received by this present world and so-called world evangelization (global unity) is a deception at the highest level and the workings of the spirit of this world ( John 1:5,10; 8:23; 14:17,22; 15:19,20; 17:9,14,16,25; 18:36; Rom. 8:7; 1Cor. 1:20; 2:4-8, 12-14; 1 Thess. 3:3; 2 Tim. 3:12; James 4:4; 1 John 2:15; 3:1; 5:4,19; 2 John 7).
It should be noted that in over 36 years of service we have never collected/received, solicited or requested donations. The gift of 'Life' was freely given and freely do we give to all those that believe ( 2 Kings 5:16; Matthew 6:26; 10:8).
Seek, and ye shall find ( Matthew 7:7).
In His Service.
Andy & Dianne van den Berg - Nova Scotia, Canada
No one can arbitrarily volunteer for entry and be accepted; a person cannot cause himself to be born again. Flesh does not produce redemption. Unless one is born of the Holy Spirit, whatever one does in the flesh will not make him spiritual in the biblical sense. The Bible shows that the natural mind of man is at war against God and that it is not subject to God's law and cannot be ( Romans 8:7), expressing the harsh reality of the carnal heart of mankind.
When Paul writes that the unconverted are dead in trespasses and sin, he means exactly that. Regardless of how sincere or religious they might be, such people are lifeless in terms of true spiritual life that is given by God. They are part of the old, natural creation and are spiritually lifeless unless and until-and completely at His discretion-God graciously gives life by His Spirit. Paul writes, "For He says to Moses, 'I will have mercy on whomever I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whomever I will have compassion.' So then it is not of him who wills, nor of him who runs, but of God who shows mercy".
2 Thessalonians 2:3
Let no one deceive you in any way. For that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction
Hebrews 3:12
Take care, brothers, lest there be in any of you an evil, unbelieving heart, leading you to fall away from the living God.
Galatians 1:8-9
But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I SAY AGAIN, If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you (first) received, let him be accursed.
2 Timothy 3:1-9
But understand this, that in the last days there will come times of difficulty. For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, heartless, unappeasable, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not loving good, treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people.
1 Timothy 4:1-3
Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons, through the insincerity of LIARS whose consciences are seared (burned), who forbid marriage and require abstinence from meats that God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth.
John 6:66
After this many of his disciples turned back and no longer walked with him (Jesus).
HEBREWS 10
How much worse punishment, do you think, will be deserved by the one who has spurned the Son of God, and has profaned the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and has outraged the Spirit of Grace?
Revelation 3:16
So, because you are lukewarm, and NEITHER hot nor cold, I will Spit you out of my mouth.
1. Almighty One -who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty." Rev. 1:8
2. Alpha and Omega - I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. Rev. 22:13
3. Advocate - My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have an advocate with the Father--Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. 1 John 2:1
4. Author and Perfecter of Our Faith - Fixing our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of faith, who for the joy set before Him endured the cross, despising the shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God. Heb. 12:2
5. Authority - Jesus said, 'All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Matt. 28:18
6. Bread of Life - Then Jesus declared, 'I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to me will never go hungry, and whoever believes in me will never be thirsty. John 6:35
7. Beloved Son of God - And behold, a voice from heaven said, This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased Matt. 3:17
8. Bridegroom - And Jesus said to them, Can the wedding guests mourn as long as the bridegroom is with them? The days will come when the bridegroom is taken away from them, and then they will fast. Matt. 9:15
9. Chief Cornerstone - The stone which the builders rejected has become the chief corner stone." Ps. 118:22
10. Deliverer - And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, Jesus who delivers us from the wrath to come. 1 Thess.1:10
11. Faithful and True - "I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and wages war." Rev.19:11
12. Good Shepherd - "I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep." John 10:11
13. Great High Priest - "Therefore, since we have a great high priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our confession." Heb. 4:14
Mine eyes shall be upon the faithful of the land , that they may dwell with me : he that walketh in a perfect way , he shall serve me .
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