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Hello Nelvan. From the Bible, we understand that before Jesus came to Earth as a Man, He was in Heaven, within the Godhead, as the Word of God (see John 1:1-4,14). God has chosen to express Himself to us as the Almighty God from Whom proceeds His Word & His Spirit - just one God in His Fulness ( 1 John 5:7).

"Can God die?" No, God is Spirit, He cannot die and none in the spirit realm can die since no physical body is present. One day we will die because our aging bodies must perish. But our spirits which cannot die, will return to God ( Ecclesiastes 12:7).

But Jesus died, because God chose to send forth His Word to us a sinful people. And that Word became flesh ( John 1:14) & He was named Jesus ( Matthew 1:21-25), so that the people not only had God's final Word to them coming in human form ( John 8:42,43), but He also came as a man for the "suffering of death" ( Hebrews 2:9), that He should "taste death for every man". And this, Jesus did for us, so that when we believe on Him, confessing our sins, God will forgive us & accept us, only because He accepted His Son's death as a full & complete payment for our sins ( John 3:16-18).

So God Who is Spirit cannot die, but when He sent His Word to become a man, then yes, God did give us His life for us. But as you may know, the account doesn't end there: Jesus arose from death & the grave, ascended to Heaven in His glorified body & is seated now at God's right Hand where His Testimony is ever present before all in Heaven & Earth ( Hebrews 10:12; 7:25) - God's sacrificial Lamb Who was once slain and is now the only reason for our acceptance by God.

BROTHER Earl.

Part 2. Sold under sin.

Romans 7:14. For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.

I believe this old fallen nature has a source behind it. Spiritual wickedness, Children of darkness.

2 Corinthians 4:3-4. But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:

In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

John 3:19. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

I believe we're born Children of Adam and When we're Born again ( Born from above) we're Children of God.

Romans 5:19. For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

Note: To the Pharisees

John 8:44. Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. AND OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS IN THE FLESH DONT EXCEED THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF THE PHARISEES.

1 John 3:9-10. Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

In this the children of God are manifest, and the CHILDREN OF THE DEVIL: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, ( neither he that loveth not his brother. ) THERE IS HOW WE IDENTIFY THEM.

1 John 2:11. But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.

This is why there is diverse beliefs we have seen recently, but did you notice only 2 sides, we see some join forces against the truth. because there is 2 sources behind the scene. Mathew 12:30.

Part 3 coming.

God bless.

Sister Dianne, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

Ephesians 2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the PRINCE OF THE POWER OF THE AIR, the spirit that now worketh in the CHILDREN of disobedience:

Ephesians 2:3 Among whom also we had our conversation in times past in the lust of our flesh, fulfilling the the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the CHILDREN OF WRATH, even as others.

1 Corinthians 2:6 Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect (mature): yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the PRINCES OF THIS WORLD, that come to nought:

1 Corinthians 2:8 Which none of the PRINCES OF THIS WORLD knew, for had they know it, they would not have crucified the prince of glory.

1 John 3:8 He that COMMITTETH SIN IS OF THE DEVIL (children); for the devil SINNETH FROM THE BEGINNING.....

1 John 3:10 In this the CHILDREN OF GOD are manifest, and the CHILDREN OF THE DEVIL: whosoever doth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loved not his brother.

Acts 13:10 And said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou CHILD of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, will thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord.

John 8:44 Ye are (children) of your FATHER THE DEVIL .....

DIANNE

Greetings

All of us here are spinning like satellites around the Bible, which is the Word of GOD. The Word is GOD. The most important thing is to search for the GOD's Truth, many times it is hidden.

Two thousand years ago, the Word was made flesh-JESUS- and He came to create a new creature in GOD, the Father, through the new birth and saving what had been lost through Satan's usurpation of God's creation; In fact, without JESUS, was not any thing made that was made. John the apostle said: Now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when He shall appear, we shall be like Him; for we shall see Him as He is- 1John 3:v.2

What can we learn from the prophets,and from JESUS and His apostles?

JESUS in John 8:v.39-44: Dialogue between JESUS and the Jews:

39 -The Jews said unto JESUS,Abraham is our FATHER.Jesus saith unto them,If ye were Abraham's children(IF???),ye would do the works of Abraham.40 But now ye seek to kill me, ...(For JESUS the Jews were not Abraham's children)

41-The Jews said to JESUS:We be not born of fornication;we have one FATHER even GOD.

42 -Jesus said unto them,If GOD were your FATHER(IF?),ye would love me:

43 -Why do ye not understand my speech?even because ye cannot hear my word.

44 -Ye are of your FATHER the Devil, ...

45 -And because I tell you the truth,ye believe me not.

John the Apostle said:This is the message that ye HEARD from the beginning(yeah,we have heard from JESUS, the beginning),that we should love one another.Not as Cain,who was of that Wicked One (the Devil,Satan),and slew his brother. (Cain was the FIRST son of the woman-Eve.He belonged to Devil. But the woman-Eve-said; Genesis 4:v1- I have gotten a man from the Lord.

The woman-Eve-had been deceived by the Devil;She spoke lie when she said that had Cain from the Lord,instead to say from the Devil.

That said, John REALLY said Truth, the woman-Eve-not.

Well, the ONLY ONE who was not born of the Devil was/is JESUS.

J L B

J B L

My Lord JESUS said: "Satan was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the Truth, because there is no Truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. John 8:v.44

I must say that her contact in heaven in accord your belief, it is only and only WITH THE MONSTRUOS red Dragon, having 7 heads, and 10 horns, and a TERRIBLE tail, that is that old serpent called the Devil and Satan. But now, he will be cast down to the earth, and no doubt she will never need to do her travel no more.

Know that no LIE is (or comes from) of the Truth. 1John 2:v.18

ADAM

What does the Word of GOD say?

There was a multitude of angels in the Garden of Eden and there was also a ruler in Eden, a Cherub. They all rebelled against GOD - the Word is GOD - and they corrupted themselves as is wwritten in Jude 1:v.6-7:

6 And the angels which kept not their first estate(celestial/spiritual estate), but left their own habitation (they left their celestial nature), he -GOD- hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the Judgment of this great Day. (the LORD's Day).

7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner (IN LIKE MANNER OF THE ANGELS IN EDEN), giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of ETERNAL FIRE.

John the Apostle brings us a deep revelation: John 3:v.10-12

10 In this the children of GOD are manifest,and the children of the DEVIL:whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of GOD,neither he that loveth not his brother.

11 For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning,that we should love one another.

12 Not as Cain,who was of that wicked one(WHO WAS OF THE DEVIL, called SATAN),and slew his brother.And wherefore slew he him?Because his own works were evil,and his brother's righteous.

And JESUS said to the Jews: John 8:44-45

41 Ye do the deeds of your FATHER.Then said they to JESUS,We be not born of fornication;we have one Father,even GOD.

42 Jesus said unto them,If GOD were your FATHER,ye would love me:for I proceeded forth and came from GOD;neither came I of myself,but He sent me.

43 Why do ye not understand my speech?even because ye cannot hear my word.

44 Ye are of your FATHER the DEVIL,and the lusts of your FATHER ye will do.He was a murderer from the beginning,and abode not in the truth,because there is no truth in him.When he speaketh a lie,he speaketh of his own:for he is a liar, and the father of it. Mat.23:33- Ye serpents,ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

Sister Sacha, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

The Answer is:

The FIRST LIGHT created was JESUS.

Revelation 3:14 Jesus... the BEGINNING of creation.

John 8:12 ....I am the light of the world ....

Sister Kimberly, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

Romans 14:8 For whether we LIVE, we LIVE unto the Lord; and whether we DIE, we DIE unto the Lord: whether we LIVE therefore, or DIE, we are the Lord's.

John 6:20 This is the bread that cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and NOT DIE.

John 11:26 And whosoever LIVETH and BELIEVETH in me shall never die. BELIEVEST THOU THIS?

Luke 20:36 Neither can they DIE any more (because they DIED with Christ on the cross): for they are EQUAL to the angels; and are the children of God, being the CHILDREN OF THE RESURRECTION.

Revelation 14:13 ....Blessed are the dead which DIE IN THE LORD from henceforth....

1 Corinthians 15:26 The last enemy to be destroyed is DEATH.

Christ resurrection DESTROYED DEATH. (For those that BELIEVE)

John 8:51 Verily, Verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my sayings, he shall NEVER SEE DEATH.

Matthew 16:28 Verily I say unto to you, There be some STANDING HERE (this was 2000 years age), which SHALL NOT TASTE OF DEATH, till they see the Son of man coming into his kingdom.

Colossians 1:27 ...THIS MYSTERY....CHRIST IN YOU....(The First SON OF GOD)

1 John 5:12 He that hath the Son hath LIFE; and he that hath not the Son HATH NOT LIFE.

Do these scriptures imply that we sleep and await and appointed time; or has our APPOINTED time ARRIVED upon the death of this earthly body.

You don't go to heaven; you BECOME a SON OF GOD. OMNIPRESENT not confined to one location or place.

Hallo All, sorry to intervention here but The thread is exiting. And will all day to the werry End stand up for speculation and big wonder.

The Lord tock me ones into the explamantion of the word, black and white. Thank You Dear Jesus. And thanks for this web who have give me the revelations back. I hade almost forgot it.

Revelation 1. 4. It said "John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, from him which is and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;"

from him which is.

from him which is. And not "are". That i have learned.

which is to come.

When He open my eyes it explode in my heart. After that ill read all Different. The word in the Holy Bible was like in a sea, always in motion. Mayby like the wind. And after that i belive in what my heart tell me, who il get from the Holy Scripture. I belive it is the Holy Spirit who is my supervisor. And He give me word for the day who i need or who i need too deliver to someone who need the word.

ps. English is not my mother tongue, please be patient. God Bless you all to understand, in Jesus name.

And today il searched after a word and find it, at once here in the web site. In this thread, Which is " I Am". John 8:12; 9:5.

This is the biggest word that Jesus speak ever. He embraces Everything! When we look up to the sky and see no End in the space. Thats Him too. We look down in the darkest of darkness, and He is King even there. All thing is made for Him. Becose He have added everything under His foot. He Fulfilled the work when He died on the cross. It was the strongest offer someone has made ever! That where when God the Father Him self, have to sacrifice His Only son. I live today becose of that.

Can you imagine what the disiple think when they heard this word. Some of they did not belive it. And il gess they created confusion. Ty they had the Master to look up on. And we have that too, in our heart. God Bless you all

I greet you in the name of Christ! My brother Chris, I enjoyed your post, and wanted to continue the dialogue. Christ is the Light of the World ( John 8:12; 9:5), and it is by Him and through Him that everything in the universe was created

from a foundation of light ( John 1:3; Col. 1:16-17; Heb. 1:2). God glories in His creation, for it attests to His greatness and excellency! It is His created child; and He would never give birth to a deformed child of darkness as described in Genesis 1:2. Such would be viewed as a microcosm of the rest of His creation, and detract from the breathtaking and incomprehensible beauty of creative mind.

In a similar vein, I would be interested in hearing your views on John's statement that Christ was "slain from the foundation of the world" ( Rev. 13:8b), and the statement Christ makes that He is "the beginning of the creation of God" ( Rev. 3:14d). God bless you!

Brother David, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

There is MORE TRUTH than asking God to help you choose to do what glorifies Him. The Spirit CAUSES you to ask.

You DIED on the cross with Christ, you were RAISED a new creation; IN CHRIST, at His Resurrection.

Jesus is now living his LIFE in you, CAUSING you to continue being created in HIS IMAGE.

Ezekiel 36:24 And I WILL take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all the countries, and will bring you into your own land.

Ezekiel 36:25 Then WILL I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye SHALL BE CLEAN: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, WILL I cleanse you.

Ezekiel 36:26 A new heart also WILL I GIVE you, and a new spirit WILL I PUT within you: and I WILL TAKE AWAY the stony heart out of your flesh, and I WILL GIVE you and heart of flesh.

Ezekiel 36:27 And I WILL PUT my spirit WITHIN YOU, and CAUSE YOU to walk in my statues, and ye shall keep my judgements, AND DO THEM.

Philippians 2:13 For it is God that WORKETH IN YOU both to WILL and TO DO of his good pleasure.

Ephesians 1:5 ....according to the good pleasure of HIS WILL..

Ephesians 1:11 In whom we have obtained an inheritance (sons of God), being predestinated according to the PURPOSE OF HIM who WORKETH all things after the counsel of HIS WILL.

Philippians 1:29 For unto you it is GIVEN in the behalf of Christ, not only TO BELIEVE ON HIM, but also to suffer for him.

Of ourselves we can do NOTHING.

1 John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doeth NOT COMMIT SIN (because Christ is doing EVERYTHING) (we SIN because we try to put OUR WORKS with this TRUTH); for his seed remaineth in him; and he cannot sin because he is born of God.

This is why Jesus never SINNED. He walked in the TRUTH that the Father did all things FOR HIM.

John 8:28 ...and that I do nothing of myself...

John 5:30 I can of myself do nothing ....

John 3:27 ...A man receive nothing, except it be GIVEN HIM from heaven.

GOD calls EVIL not me.

What prevails is the Word of GOD,not your cunningly devised fables. I'm a disciple of JESUS, and you?They murdered JESUS-GOD,remember?What does the Word of GOD say?

Dialogue between Jews and JESUS:Jo.8:v.33-43

Jews said:-We be Abraham's seed,... John 8:33KJV

- JESUS said: - I know that ye are Abraham's seed... John 8:v.37 (Positive)

Jews said: - Abraham is our father.... John 8:v.39

- JESUS said:- If ye were Abraham's children... John 8:v.39 (If?? hum!)

Jews said: - We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God. John 8:v.41

- JESUS said: - If God were your Father... John 8:v.42- (If?? hum!)

- JESUS said to the Jews: Why do ye not understand my speech? Ye are of your father the Devil..., John 8:43-44

Do you believe in JESUS, Necomb? Even He said to the Jews: Ye are of your father the Devil..., According JESUS, the origin of the Jews comes from the garden of Eden, they are the fallen angels which rebelled against God following their father, the Devil, and going after strange flesh because they kept no their first angelical estate. Jude 1:6 - The angels which kept not their first estate...GOD hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of THIS great day.

Why did JESUS call the Jews of serpents? It is because they are sons of the old serpent, called the Devil, now red Dragon. Matt.23:33-35.

33 -Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:

35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.

What is the mystery JESUS links the Jews to the murder of Abel, that upon the Jews may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth?

Dear Roy, the people of Britsh empire and America have nothing to do with any tribe of Israel, unfortunatelly you believe in satanic lies as the theory you posted to deceive the readers in this Christian site.

What you have posted in your devilish message, it is called as a cunningly devised fable by the Word of our Almighty GOD - the Word is GOD, understand? - , and the evil spirit that inspired your message will be cast down into the botomless pit in this current time. You know who is the father of the lie, then read what JESUS said in John 8:v.44-45.

Ginny, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

It's better to to know what GOD SAYS than to say things that OPPOSE God's word.

You says Satan created evil, this OPPOSES:

Isaiah 45:7 I (GOD) form the light, and CREATE darkness: I make peace, and CREATE EVIL: I the LORD DO ALL THESE THINGS.

You say God gives us the choice to choose good are evil, this OPPOSES:

Philippians 2:13 For it is God that WORKETH IN YOU both to will and do of HIS GOOD PLEASURE.

You say Satan was the highest angel in heaven and rebelled, this OPPOSES:

Job 26:13 By his Spirit he garnished the heavens, his hand hath formed the CROOKED SERPENT.

John 8:44 ...He (Satan) was a murder from THE BEGINNING (not perfect and fell), and abode not in the TRUTH ....

Thank you OSEAS. I will keep your words in my heart. Just know? My post, the language of it, was not conversational.

I just politely restating text book science to say color has a science. I was scraping off social narratives, keeping color to its science and separate actually. I think color is a forgotten science - people just are not taught. Hence all the parsing out of GOD's color identity matched up to what is not color science relative, and becomes incongruous to color sciences, and makes colors laws muddy. Remember: Before you were clothed in Genesis 2:67 in earth' we were already Light! Science has laws of color in Heaven and here, that create unequivocal law and order in His science. Example: World plants for example? The leaves on shrubs are green lets say? Then per color science of photosynthesis 'the sun emits' colorful rays? Yes. By color laws? The green color of the leaf attracts and pairs (as designed) to attract the red rays to grow the green plant. This is the law of color science.

We have a GOD that chastens those He loves and you and I are obedient in devotion. Why? To keep His Kingdom's order, His peace. To the Creator's honor, no more arguing. I heard a Pastor say the other day that the opposite of 'Light' is 'dark'. Not true in fact. So I know color and Light need to be explained better. The KJV- John 8:12 is-as GOD's id is Light= Color. Absolutely 'dark' is not the 'opposite' of GOD's Light! His Light equal to dark? No. Anyway this cannot be. Anyway we know 'out of black or out of white' come all colors,and so Light wins. This is why we are told that in Heaven? We will see beautiful glorious Light only! All the colors! Now how beautiful will this be? (smile - great right?) Pretty wonderful I think that our GOD is Light and so He is Color and the color laws of Heaven bring the Peace and Light we all want. No more color agenda wars. AMEN. This will make the LORD very relieved I am sure. Much love to you friend.

Hello Caleb. I'm unsure in what manner the evil one is bringing confusions to you, but for me, if there is something that comes to my mind that I know is debatable or wrong, then I resort to the 3 S's.

SEARCH: SEARCH the Word of God to find the Scripture related to your concern. Entering a specific word in the Search Box on this Site or in a Concordance, might throw up several options for you to look at.

STUDY: STUDY that verse, also the verses around it & the reason for that inclusion in the Bible, to make sure you are understanding it & applying it correctly to you concern.

STAND: After you satisfy yourself that God's Word has given you the answer you seek, then believe it, STAND firmly upon it, & when that sly fox tests or tempts you again, hit him with the pure Word of God. That should scare him away.

I would like to help Christ's Children understand 'color and Light' are synonymous. KJV- John 8:12 GOD declares 'He' is Light. I had dinner with a physicist who told me 'to this day no one knows where Light comes from'. The deep space Light of the novas, of the cosmos ect. Now consider how Christians are told the Source/as Christ (are the same word friends) that we accept Him, He lives in us as our Neighbor, closer than a brother. We in Him, He in us= are Children of Light. The many contrived color narratives that want to steal the id of this Light? Yes as 'black'(lives matter),'white'(supremacy) and the 'rainbow' covenant of GOD (LGBTQIA) and this misguided phrase 'People of Color'. Do you see the narratives are theft? A tearing away of John 8:12 'I AM LIGHT'. Today there is an all out identity war on Christ to try and strip His/Light of His color! This is a real 'id' attack friends. Why? Because KJV Hebrews 11:1 says 'substance' (is faith)and as Light=all colors=substance) So by substance in the world the unbelieving sees proof of what we call the LORD's Glory in nature: is Jesus. To strip the LIGHT of its rainbow? Jesus colors parted out leaves invisibility and the confused will not connect LIGHT and COLOR as defined as indivisible. In physics (what is 'indivisible') cannot be separated from itself is 'true substance' science. Christ says He is Truth. Christ says He is Light. In His brilliance friends (our image is Him)-the logic is to admit Jesus Christ is 'COLOR TOO'. I AM THAT I AM. Sir Isaac Newton in 1700's wrote the Laws of Color Science:"Out of Black or Out of White"(from black or white)ALL colors come forth. Friends with this truth? This is the reason of 'law' of color = Color science. It is lawful that all Police Cars are 'black and white'. The reason the Bible pages are 'black and white' and the reason the USA Supreme Court Justice Robes 'law' are black and white. Fundamental science friends: Starting with our first set of CRAYONS/GOD= JOHN 8:12

How do you over come confusions from the evil one.

"THE LAW" as referred to by Jesus is the 10 Commandments..it doesn't say anything about stoning anyone in this LAW.

Jesus did not let the adulteress get stoned in the scripture below:

John 8:2-10 Context

2And early in the morning he came again into the temple, and all the people came unto him; and he sat down, and taught them. 3And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst, 4They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act. 5Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou? 6This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not. 7So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. 8And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground. 9And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst. 10When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee? She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.

In scripture, Jesus and his apostles refer many times to keeping the 10 commandments. Here are two verses spoken by Jesus

John 14:15

"If ye love me, keep my commandments."

John 15:10

"If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love."

As Christians .if we keep God's commandments, we WILL NOT kill or stone anyone. The 6th Commandment: THOU SHALT NOT KILL.

Matthew 5:18. Is saying that God's 10 commandments are in force until the end of this earth.

God Bless

I too believe that scripture plainly says Jesus is God in John 1:1. However, we are expressing our opinions and if that was banned then our opinions would be silenced also. Usually when someone wants censorship they usually just mean the opinions they disagree with, and don't want to be silenced themselves.

God wants to be sought. This involves effort. I think some things are meant to not be clear or understood immediately, and some things never. In Job, he questioned God why He did that to him, and instead of a direct answer he got an earful of how He was God and Job wasn't. The way I interpret it is like: how dare you question me with your tiny limited brain.

There are other places basically suggesting our capacity to comprehend everything is currently limited. There are mysteries and maybe more will be revealed in the afterlife.

Hebrews 11:3

Mark 4:11

Matt 13:11

Matt 6:33

Isaiah 40:4-5 - glory of the Lord will be revealed (in the future)

1 Tim 3:16

2 Thessalonians 2:11-13 - a 'strong delusion' will be sent. Judging by all the lies in the media it seems a delusion is happening now.

I really hope you people who openly write your opinions STOP!! Because yes in fact JESUS is saying before Abraham I AM , the same I AM that told Moses in the Old Testament. Isaiah 9:6 says it best who JESUS is and if you need New Testament to back up who HE is 1st Timothy 3:16 but this one clearly nails it John 1:10,11 He was in the world and the world was made by Him, and the world knew Him not. He came unto His own and his own received Him not.)HALLELUJAH GLORY BE TO GOD, JESUS is GOD Manifested in the flesh as 1st Timothy 3:16 and ISAIAH 9:6 so clearly and plainly put it!! Why do you think we are to be baptized in His Name ? ACTS 2:38 , because JESUS himself was Water baptized as an example to us as to what HE expects EVERYONE who WANTS SALVATION to do as HE Stated to Nicodemus in JOHN3:5 Verily, verily, I say unto thee .Except a man be born of the Water and of the Spirit , he cannot enter the kingdom of God. ( Peter Preached on the day of Pentecost in the book of ACTS 2:38 to Repent and be baptized in Jesus Name filled with the Holy Ghost. EPHESIANS 4:5 says One Lord, One Faith, One Baptism . ( John 1:1 through 5) in the beginning was the Word , and the Word was with God , and the Word was God . The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by Him; and without Him was not anything made that was made.In Him was life; and the life was the light of men. And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. ( Same as some people today ) In Jesus Name I Bid you Peace

Hello,

If you believe the Bible where it says the "three are one" then, the answer is yes.

1 John 5:7 "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."

Here's other supporting scripture too:

Genesis 1:26

John 11:6-7

John 10:30

John 8:19

John 1:1

Philippians 2:5 - 2:8

2 Corinthians 5:19

John 1:3

1 John 5:7

Matthew 28:19

1 Peter 1:2

2 Corinthians 13:14

Deuteronomy 6:4

John 14:10

John 20:28

1 John 5:8

1 John 2:22-24

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Beware of creative people who will try to either disregard or 'reinterpret' all the above scripture in attempt to get it to mean something else. In searching our conscience, deep down we already know what "the father and I are one" and the "three are one" means. We should all ask God directly for wisdom in understanding the scriptures and to reveal and confirm His truths to us, so we aren't deceived or mislead by false teachers. James 1:5. 1 Timothy 4:1-2.

Brother John,

You state that the only sin is unbelief! Jesus never said that. There are many sins, and christians along with believing in Jesus Christ - WE must also strive to be free from sin!

It sounds to me that you are saying as long as we believe in Jesus Christ we can continue to sin with no repercussions....

Why would Jesus say in the following verses "sin no more"?

John 8:11

"She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more."

John 5:14

"Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee."

This is "very powerful" scripture telling us that we must strive to be SIN FREE. Yes, we are imperfect, and we will sin and fall short, but when we do we must still pray for forgiveness and strive to change and walk in Christ.

It's not easy to get into heaven and this verse confirms:

Matthew 7:14

"Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it."

As Christians we CANNOT ignore the above scripture, or we will only be fooling ourselves......

God bless

Your comment sounds like an attack on Christians who believe the Bible. Why do you post such a thing on a Bible website and what is your goal? To unite or divide?

Christians believe Jesus is God because the Bible clearly says He's God. Is that reason enough? John 1:1 flat out says it. So, so all the scriptures below that even children read and understand. It needs no creative interpreting, needs no progressive pastor to interpret, just literally what it says. Jesus being God doesn't mean He's God the Father, but God the Son. God became a man and died for you, do you believe Him?

Claiming that Christians who read the scriptures and believe are somehow just 'Americans' or 'Catholics' seems like a disingenuous attack on Christians. Labeling and dividing and lying is what I've seen done to make such anti-Christ arguments. Anyone who does this is on extremely dangerous ground. Anyone who tries to spread anti-Christ lies should be ashamed of themselves.

1 John 2:22-24

"Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also. Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father."

1 John 5:7

Genesis 1:26

John 11:6-7

John 10:30

John 8:19

John 1:1

Philippians 2:5 - 2:8

2 Corinthians 5:19

John 1:3

1 John 5:7

Matthew 28:19

1 Peter 1:2

2 Corinthians 13:14

Deuteronomy 6:4

John 14:10

John 20:28

1 John 5:8

1 John 2:22-24

2Pet. 3:3; scoffers = Psalm 1:1 implies sinners progress in their ever-increasing depravity until they become scoffers in their final state.

Scoffers scornfully and maliciously mock GOD, HIS SON The LORD JESUS CHRIST, GOD's Word, GOD's people, and all GODly matters to bring disgrace and contempt. These have evolved in their lifestyles for so long, they no longer fear GOD.

Because JESUS CHRIST has not yet returned as promised, scoffers believe HE will not come again at all. The very existence of scoffers proves these are "the last days" (Jude v.18).

The reader could argue that these scoffers compose a more blatant and aggressive group than the more private "false teachers who privily shall bring in damnable heresies" ( 2Pet. 2:1). As followers and adherents of false teachers, these scoffers voice their ridicule more publicly.

These less than subtle scoffers are "walking after their own lusts" partly because they swallow the "cunningly devised fables" (1:16) and the "damnable heresies" (2:1) of the false teachers (2:1) and have become the "twofold more the child of hell" described by CHRIST ( Mt. 23:15). See also John 8:44, Acts 13:10, and 17:5.

Scoffers deride those who believe Scriptural prophecies regarding CHRIST's Second Coming by declaring that since CHRIST has not yet returned, that is proof HE will not return (v.4).

Their derisive question regarding "the promise" (v.4) voices their mockery of CHRIST WHO promised a Second Coming that HE cannot fulfill. Not only do scoffers mock the prophecies of the prophets, but they also mock CHRIST HIMSELF WHO prophesied of HIS own Second Coming ( Jn. 14:2, 28). Scoffers' denial of CHRIST's Second Coming will not hinder HIS Coming for "The LORD is not slack concerning HIS Promise" (v.9). See also verse ten where Peter emphasized, "But the Day of The LORD will come."

In the end, GOD will mock and laugh at the scoffers ( Ps. 2:4; 37:13; 59:8; Pro. 1:25-26).

Yes, since John 8:33 Esau now resides at the holy city, and acknowledges that they are Esau, and, are responsible for the wars, plagues, sacrifice and torture of many millions of children, we have a problem, as also explained at Malachi 1:3-4.

Esau, and Canaanites of pollution with fallen angel mating, plus those Masons and others who take imprecatory secret oaths to Satan, are spreading great hated and lies against The Creator, King of Heaven and earth, and, His Savior Son, who by His Blood Redeems us from eternal death if we truly love Him to live according to His Spirit and His Word. Now as Obadiah, Isaiah 63, tells us, as well as John 8:33-44, Matthew 23, Rev. 2 and 3 of the Synagogue of Satan. They have even polluted all institutions on the earth. They are also now destroying all creation, and have brought on the Mark of the Beast of Rev. 13:16, that tracks people by a matrix of computers over all the earth, and changes the DNA of our bodies that house the temple of our Savior and His Holy Spirit IF we choose the jab to be owned by Satan, instead. People are taking that Beast ownership Mark, which can not be undone.

We have not called on The Holy Names that Never changes since the beginning. See Palms 91, daniel 9:19, Exodus 9:16, Matthew 23:39 in the institutions of the earth! Like the 10 virgins, we need to call on Our Father in Heaven, and Hallow His Name, and forgive our debtors as we want to be forgiven, and, pray for enough Holy Spirit in our lamps.

At Declaration of Independence, last paragraph, we find THE CREATOR is our Judge! At Deuteronomy 17:8, hard matters are brought to Him for Judgement. Vengeance belongs to Him. He owns everything. Psalms 24. At Zephaniah 3, He Judges between His people and Satan. Isaiah 66, Hosiah 5:15 we find examples of The Creator's judgment. At Joel 3, we find The Creator gathering the people's of the earth of war, together for a feast of the condemned flesh for the predator animals of the earth.

How did Abraham see Jesus?

John 8:56 "Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad".

Psalm 110:4 "...Thou (Jesus) art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek".

Abraham saw Jesus through Melchizedek, Genesis 14.

Matthew 16:18-19 KJV

[18] And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. [19] And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

Matthew 28:18-19 KJV

[18] And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. [19] Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

John 1:1-2 KJV

[1] In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. [2] The same was in the beginning with God.

John 1:9-14 KJV

[9] That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. [10] He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. [11] He came unto his own, and his own received him not. [12] But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: [13] Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. [14] And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

John 1:17-18 KJV

[17] For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. [18] No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

John 3:16 KJV

[16] For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

John 8:58 KJV

[58] Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

Brother David, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and His understanding.

BELIEVE

Romans 8:3 For what the law COULD NOT DO, in that it was weak in the flesh, God sending his own Son, in the LIKENESS OF SINFUL FLESH, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

Christ; the Spirit of GOD was made in the likeness of US (sinful flesh); therefore, sinful flesh (US) was CRUCIFIED on the CROSS WITH CHRIST. Christ rose AGAIN; therefore, we also arose with him, now in LIKENESS OF CHRIST.

John 8:51 Verily, verily, I say unto you, if a man keep my saying, he shall NEVER SEE DEATH.

Revelation 20:6 Blessed and holy is he who hath part in the FIRST RESURRECTION .......

You DIED and now LIVE IN CHRIST AND CHRIST IN YOU; you will never die again, you will just CHANGE BODIES.

Did you not read John 1? Is your motive to gain understanding of a different perspective or to just stick with what you want to believe?

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

"the Word was God."

The Bible is 100% clear that "the Word was God"- do you agree? It says it in John 1:1 verbatim.

Who is the Word? If you keep reading it answers that in 100% clear language

John 1:14 "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth."

The "Word" was made flesh and dwelt among us (people).

Verse 15 says John (the Baptist) bore witness to Him. This narrows it down so much there is absolutely no one else this could possibly be but Jesus Christ. It would take serious mental gymnastics to make it mean anyone else, but Jesus Christ.

So, let's review. John 1:1 In the beginning was (Jesus Christ), and the (Jesus Christ) was with God, and the (Jesus Christ) was God.

All of this we get from John 1, the scripture I already provided which you seemed to have missed.

But there's much more than one verse that says Jesus is God. When it says God, it doesn't mean God the Father though, but God the Son. And Jesus is Lord and as well as other terms used in reverence. Just because people have a hard time comprehending the "three are one" doesn't mean they need to try to rewrite the Bible to mean something entirely different. It's already correct exactly as it says. That's part of being a Christian and having faith.

1 John 5:7 "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."

Genesis 1:26 "And God said, Let US make man in our image"

John 11:6-7 "And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do. Go to, let US go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech."

John 10:30 "I and my Father are one."

John 8:19 "if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also."

Do you believe these Bible verses?