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This chapter is laden is many spiritual truths. Some are: “I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life. If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed. Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.”

He did not call Abraham a liar, Insight 777, Abraham was a righteous man. John 8:44 Jesus is talking to the Pharisees.

Jesus called Abraham a liar that did not receive the word of God. John 8:44 Ye are of [your] father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. Believe Jesus not Paul, Jesus has no guile.

Word,Cain was"turned aside after Satan"as in 1Tim. 5:15, and Job 2:6. John 8:44 (Cain)"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do"God calls the devil a murderer(so was Cain)Cain did not abide in truth(John14:6),Satan is a liar and the father of lies.What scripture were you thinking of when you said "Satan had Cain" 1Tim.1:4- God's instructions are"don't heed fables"

Amen.

Disciple our Lord Jesus explained the parable Himself from Matt. 13:27-42 where God sends His seed, children to earth and the wicked one Satan sends his tares, children to earth. It has nothing to do with our hearts receiving the word. No need to explain it. Christ spoke to these same ones in John 8:44-47 where He said you are of your father the devil.

Now 50 years of Bible study should have cleared up Father, Son, Holy Ghost. But being as it hasn't, 2 scriptures to help. John 8:28, words of Christ, as my father hath taught me. John 14:28, in Christ's "very own words", for my Father is greater than I. This is my Beloved Son in whom I am well pleased. If Jesus, whom some say, is not the Son of God, but God,they make God out to b a liar.

Mari; You made my day! You really did. I was wondering about you, why I hadn't seen you. Are you alright? All Glory be to the Lord and our God JESUS!!! Jn.20:28

Irene, its like a bible study for me w the many verses you put up. I write them down

Levell - Lk. 23:47 - even the centurion, who helped crucify Jesus, said, " ... certainly this was a righteous man." Jesus' words, that he did nothing of Himself referred to His flesh man; but as His Father taught Him, He (Jesus) did those things. It's the same with us; when we have God's spirit in us ( Acts 2:38) it's HIS spirit that does the works, speaks the words of wisdom from His word.

Levell - Probably you won't understand this: Jesus being lifted up was His reference to His crucifixion. Then, in Acts ch. 1 He ascended to heaven; then Actsv2:37-38 (men and brethren, WHAT SHALLWE DO?) they began to realize, after Peter's message that they needed to turn to HIM for salvation. " ... be baptized in the NAME of Jesus Christ ... "; Acts 4:12 - for there is none other name ..."

I was wondering if anyone could comment on Jn8:28?

Jesus says in John 8:47 that His own people were not able to understand Him because they had sin in their lives. Please be prayerful about telling people to know or believe Christ has nothing to do with sin because they must acknowledge they are a sinner ask for forgiveness and follow his godly example that what proves that we know Him out character. That why the Scribes hated Him Him read these scriptures. If this thing to know Jesus wasn't about us sinning why did He come. He came to turn us to Him yes but by exposing the truth that we're sinful with His blood was for the remission of sins. It can only be cancelled if people receive Him by acknowledging first they are sinners. That what all the disciples went to preach. He saved Mary Magdalene but said 'Go and sin no more.' That's why so many people are confused. We must love help and yes people should see Jesus in the right light. Believe He is tell them but why do we leave out, 'Go and sin no more.' It's His word and to know Him is for Him to help them with their struggles. Cause if sis isn't and issue then the world must be getting better cause there's a lot of killing, sexual sin, lying and etc, etc but God said we would not inherit the kingdom if we continue on this path. ,2nd Timothy chapter 3. So yes change our minds to know Christ but go and sin no more. Be blessed!

This dialogue between Jesus and his Jewish followers distinguishes the departure from Mosaic law and Christian forgiveness. Frankly, all are sinners but we have an advocate in Jesus if we go and sin no more. For the reprobate, there is little hope of eternity. The Jews are devout as our the Muslim. They adhere to the precepts they were taught. Christians observe the resurrection with eggs!

V. 9 - being pricked in their conscience; I wonder, did any one of them think even further and maybe turn to Jesus ..... ? Or maybe, if they mentioned such a thing, their peers talked them out of it: "but think of the prestige of men you will lose ... " and etc. Just as we are today.

V. 1 - Mount Olivet was so important in Jesus' day - and in O.T. times. It was a central geographical place in God's Word. 2 Sam. 15:30; 1 Kgs. 11:7-8; 2 Kgs. 23:13-14; Eze. 11:22:23; Neh. 8:15; N.T. - Lk. 22:39; Matt. 24:1-51; Lk. 19:28-44; 21:37; 22:39-46; Acts 1:1-12; in the future - Matt. 24:30-31; Zech. 14:4. Just to understand it's importance, these are well worth reading.

WE are the household of God who dwells in us ( Eph 2:19-22, I Co 6:19-20) and wisdom is already in us ( 1 Co 1:30, John 14:16-17, 26). Understanding is already ours ( John 8:32). We need to stop looking to "obtain" the things of God and start manifesting what we "already have". God's already provided everything ( 2 Pet 1:3). See Hosea 4:6 as to why most Christians are defeated in life. It's sad.

Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day, and he saw it, and he was glad. I too will rejoice on that great and glorious day, when I will see my Blessed Savior. I long for the day when every knee will bow, proclaiming the truth of the victory at the cross and a new life in Christ was given to me! Yeshua longs to know us and to experience his deep abiding love. Thank you, Abba Father.

Jn. 8:32- "And ye shall know the Truth, and the Truth shall make you free." There is one thing forever true about the freedom truth brings: the freedom that comes when we know truth - is a 'conditional' freedom. It does not free us from the result of our deeds; the freedom that comes wit truth - is the freedom - to CHOOSE - " ... choose ye this day whom ye will serve ... "; Josh. 24:15.

God bless you Kesha - that you have a heart for Jesus (God) and His truth!!

Tjohn past sins in years past should stay in the pass. If it's best to seek forgiveness of those you hurt the Lord will guide you! Faith cometh by hearing: Rom 10:17. Have u felt the tug in ur heart John 6:44, Rom 10:13, John 1:12 Don't do anything without the LORD!

Joyce B. John 8: 38 Jesus specking as I have seen with my father ( GOD ) You have seen with your father (satin) vers. 39 If you were of Abraham you would not be of satin and try to kill me.

Jesus was explaining that he existed in heaven before Abaraham was even born showing that he is greater than any human who has ever existed.

God is good

thanks

Jesus came into the world a light : the light reveals the sin in our lives : the darkness that we are walking in . Jesus also came to save us to the uttermost from our sins : If we choose to continue to walk with our Lord we will allow the light to rid us of our deeds !!! Walking with God is not a romantic adventure . Walking with our Lord is Light , Love and Victory ,and Strength !!

Irene, in all kindness I'm suggesting that you study more Even your own scripture references prove that God is 3 persons in one. Jesus was there since the creation since all was created by Him. Ex 3:14 shows he was working in OT times He was the Great I AM Matthew 22:32I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. AndJohn 8:58 it ok to debate; purpose is to teach 2Tim 3:16

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Yet the LORD JESUS CHRIST our SAVIOUR will save those whom He will save and cannot be subdued by lies. God's wrath is for the children of disobedience who do love a lie. Psalms 120:2 Deliver my soul, O LORD, from lying lips, and from a deceitful tongue. 3 What shall be given unto thee? or what shall be done unto thee, thou false tongue? John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Notice in the 15 th vs the controversy, enmity, between seed of Eve and Satans. Seed is descendants of childern not yet born, controversy began. Rev. 12:4 Satan,dragon cast his seed to earth,tares in Matt. 13:36-44 wicked one sows the tares to earth the same as God sends His children to earth. John 8:44 Christ speaking to these tares are of 1st murderer Cain whos father was Satan, their father.