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John 8:37 is a very strange verse. If you are "the seed of Abraham" then you are a Christian. This verse only makes sense with one correct understanding. Without this understanding, this verse is impossible. It cannot be true. Want to know the understanding? Give me an email....

I love verse 7. I know many Christians who should think about this when judging the sins of others.

thank God for Jesus.

Adam was going to be our eternal father because he was going to live forever. But when he sinned he lost that privledge because, although he lived for many centuries, he died.(Gen3:19 Gen.5:5) Jesus gave up heavenly position ( Jn 17:5) and became lower than the angels. ( Heb. 2:7) so he could be like his brothers,sharers of blood and flesh.(Heb.2:12-17). The only one that could be sacrificed had to like Adam, perfect. So, Jesus took the place of Adam and became the eternal father. (1Corn.15:45, Isa.9:6) Everything was given to Jesus.(Jn.13:3) After he is done ruling as king,he hands over the kingdom to his God and Father when he has brought to nothing all government and all authority and power.(1 Corn.15:24-26.)

When combined with Verses 1 & 2, the major concept seems to be a discussion of hypocrisy. "1 Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you."

All of the individual points have merit on their own, but the true power of the lesson is when they are all combined.

When the above verses are cross-referenced to John 8:7 the entire concept and truth can be fully understood. In John 8:7, a prostitute was about to be stoned to death for adultery. Jesus intervened, and the crowd began questioning him. John 8:7 says, (paraphrased) "When the crowd continued to question Jesus, he stood up and said, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."

In the end, the lesson is that we are ALL sinners and fall short of God's glory. And since none of us is perfect, who are we to harshly judge others? Upon examination and reflection, few would want to be judged themselves with the same voracity that they judge others.

John 8:3-11, The woman was taken to Jesus Christ for judgment. Jesus said go and sin no more. This means someone or people can obey this command, but I cannot point out who they are, only God knows the heart. Jesus is so merciful saying this word even if no one can obey. For example of a good father in the family, he will not command his 4 years old son/daughter to bring one container filled with water, since he knew it is so heavy. Our God also cannot command the word to his people that we cannot do. To enter into the kingdom of heaven is dual. Faith to the Lord Jesus Christ and faith to His word also. I would not deny that faith alone can save Soul. Our Lord Jesus Christ gave us an example to the one on his side also hanging on the cross whom he has given a promise to enter into the kingdom of heaven. After that promise he was dead, so nothing bad or good could happen again because his body was dead. Not like us who are still alive. We cannot compare our faith to that of one of the robbers, who died just after receiving the Lord Jesus Christ by faith, because our evil thoughts, evil eyes are always there and also we are often liars. To erase this, we have to work and practice to follow His words and ask him for help, and pray that all our bad works will be cleansed before his judgment comes. We know we are all temporarily here, so why don’t we prepare for that day to come? Verses to support salvation of our own Soul is individual based on our own works and not by faith whereby many believers were deceived. Old Testament Ezekiel 14:14, 14:20, 18:27. New Testament Philippians 2:12, James 1:21-22, 1Timothy 4:16. My God will judge our works whether good or bad. My God will not judge our faith to Him.

First of all, the rapist who sent you that verse ( John 8:7) is obviously mentally unstable and evil. No blessed Christian would commit an evil act and send you quotes from the bible to condone their act to confuse or deceive you. Roman Catholics still need to clean up their closets for sexual immoralities in their church as well.

Heres what it means:
Anyone who judges another should not judge anyone if they are guilty of sin themselves. Who are they to point their finger at you when there are three more fingers on the same hand pointing back at themselves?
Only One who is sinless can judge a sinner. I am a sinner yet I know I cannot judge because of my own sins. But the One who is sinless is Jesus.

I would like to understand in plain language what this means. I'm a victim of rape and the person who did this to me sent me this passage of John 8:7. Does that mean I'm the one who sinned?

I wonder if the believing was only meant for the Pharisees and others who Saw Him and knew better and not for the ones after His death.

Looking for truths, What does Jesus the person we are to follow closely in footsteps have to say about it? ( John 14:28) “If YOU loved me, YOU would rejoice that I am going my way to the Father, because the Father is greater than I am.” It can’t be that they are equal with one saying the other is greater right? Matthew 26:39, “Going a little farther he [Jesus Christ] fell on his face and prayed, ‘My Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me; nevertheless, not as I will, but as thou wilt.’” (If the Father and the Son were not distinct individuals, such a prayer would have been meaningless. Jesus would have been praying to himself, and his will would of necessity have been the Father’s will). John 8:17, 18, “[Jesus answered the Jewish Pharisees:] In your law it is written that the testimony of two men is true; I bear witness to myself, and the Father who sent me bears witness to me.” (So, Jesus definitely spoke of himself as being an individual separate and distinct from the Father). Looking for truths, God’s name and who He is is huge! Jesus our teacher knew this and gave ALL credit to his Father Jehovah. Through Jehovah ALL things are possible, without Him nothing is possible. The translators of the New Testament translated without any desire to add human doctrines. They only wanted the truth. And even if God’s name did get in His book more than in the original, what would be better, knowing His name or taking His name out and not knowing His name? I think it’s better to let the Bible translate the Bible. What does all of it say . . . Romans 10:13, For “everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved.”

Welcome to the truth, as it was hard to understand Jesus was of the father to open the eye's of people that they may believe what Abraham and the Prophets had seen and believe in faith.

I love the word of God, and King James Version.

Verse 28 means when the Jews cause the Son of man (evil) to rise to power and the false religion takes over the world, then the Jews will know that Jesus is the Son of God. Verse 44, Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. Verse 45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.

To Muhammed Kalid, my friend you are mistaken. Isaiah 9 Clearly states "unto us a child is given, unto us a Son is born... and you shall call him Wonderful, Counselor, the everlasting Father, the Prince of Peace". This verse clearly describes Jesus the "child given" as the everlasting Father. Jesus himself in John 8:58 refers to Himself as "I Am" as used in the book of Exodus. In John 10:30 Jesus says "I and my Father are one". In Revelation Chapter 3 Jesus refers to himself as the Alpha and the Omega, with no beginning and no end. Only Almighty God has no beginning. Even the Qur'an states that Jesus is the greatest prophet. I do not for a moment disrespect Muhammad in saying this. You may check for yourself. May God be with you and continue to open your heart to Him.

Jesus mercy and compassion are still here for us as well. His final words to this women are simple, "Go and sin no more", go back to your first husband and no others, and don't sin again. She was caught in the act of Adultery with other men than her husband. If two people marry, that have Never been married before, they have become one in the sight of God, right, One flesh. Now, if that couple divorced, they both, "set themselves up to commit adultery", when they re-marry another or have a relationship outside (Their Marriage Bond....) They are Bound by God until one of them dies. What God hath joined together, let No Man put asunder. The sin was not the marriage to the first husband, so what is to be forgiven? God forgives me so I can marry again? Are we going to live our lives as the woman at the well, in sin? God forbid!! Fornication is the only true out for remarriage. Let's say I marry a woman who has a living husband, even though they are divorced, she is not, nor will ever be my wife according to God and Jesus. In this case I would be committing Fornication with her, she would be committing Adultery with me. "She has a living husband" and I don't have a living wife. Matthew 19:3-9 Self explanation...

In John 8:41, Jesus said: Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one father, even God. In this scripture they were telling Jesus that, they knew who their father and mother were. They knew that Mary and Joseph were not married when Mary conceived, but did know that Joseph was not his father, (They did not have and understand the Holy Ghost involvement). Thus the true meaning of fornication is reviled: Mary was Joseph’s espoused wife, Joseph had not taken her before marriage, (Chosen for him by his parents, from a child). This is still the custom in some countries today.

Ephesians 5:25-33, 32 Not so much a great mystery, if they read the whole Bible or find this part... Also Science is not the problem, it’s the scientists because it is written in Proverbs 1:4 "Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all your getting get understanding." To me, scientists are just trying to attack the Bible for an excuse for sinning, to not follow God, for what someone else did; Breaking Exodus 20:7 or grieving over death. Scientist should also do a little more "RE SEARCH" because I don’t like them making things, your just looking at what's is ALREADY there. You almost/sometimes describe what God does...but you can't do what God does Ecclesiastes 11:5, John 8:28 and 5:19...you will never know unless God tells you or gives you the power to do so. The so called "NEW PLANETS" and "GALAXIES" “we haven't discovered"... Genesis 1:16 "Evolution Theory"... Genesis 1:24-25...Monkeys breed Monkeys Putting aside or saying who lit the match? God, Yahweh, Genesis 11:9, for scientist's "Big Bang Theory"... Genesis 1:1-18, 1.

Ye are of your father the devil. Jesus meant that the nature of lying of this dark angel (devil) was in them. And the lusts of your father ye will do; -you will promote or support his evil purpose. What he desires to fulfil in the world: deceiving, misleading and murdering humanity. He was a murder from the beginning and abode not in the truth, -his sole purpose is to lead astray and kill through deception. Telling lies is his nature because it is his main weapon of destruction. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is liar, and the father of it. -He was the first one to lie to Adam and Eve about eating the fruits of the tree in the middle of the Garden of Eden. He triumphs and rejoices in lies.

The message of the new testament is very clear. Repent and be converted that you may be set free from the bondage of sin. Romans 14 says that anything that is not of faith is sin. Faith is what gives us the ability to overcome sin.

I think it would do us all justice, if we began to look at the Hebrew instead of Greek, since that was the language at the beginning up until YHWH confused the languages (at the tower of Babel - Babylon). Do you know that the devil has truly deceived the whole world? Revelation 12:9, the very people who have translated the bibles down through the ages, have kept Our Creator's and Savior’s name from us. There are MANY God's ... How do we distinguish between the false god's i.e: Nimrod, Baal, Zeus, etc, and the true God? Our Creator has A NAME, and He wants it to be remembered for ALL GENERATIONS. That name was given to Moses. If you look in the preface of your bible, you will find that it states something like this "Because of the tradition of the Jews, and their belief that the Divine name was too sacred to utter, they have replaced the Divine name YHWH (which is the tetragrammaton) with LORD and GOD .... They REPLACED HIS DIVINE NAME WITH LORD AND GOD 7,000 times! God and Lord are TITLES not a NAME. He has ONE NAME YHWH. Also, our Savior's Name could not be Jesus, as there is no letter 'J' in Greek and no letter 'J' in Hebrew. Some say that Jesus is the English translation for the Hebrew Yeshua.....but, even if Yeshua is His Name, why would we need to transliterate it? Can’t we still pronounce the name Yeshua?? Eg: We don't need to transliterate Hussein into English, do we? The bible tells us to study to show ourselves approved ( 2 Timothy 2:15), also Hosea 4:6 tells us that we are destroyed for lack of knowledge. We need to prove all things, test all things ( 1 Thessalonians 5:21)... Also, where did Christmas come from? It isn't in the bible? Was the savior really born on 25th December? We need to PROVE ALL THINGS, and not just believe everything we are told. Is Sunday really the Sabbath? How do we know for sure? We need to question things.... The Father says, If you seek me with your whole heart you will find me. ( John 8:32) We need the TRUTH.

There are so many scriptural references that teach the transformational process of these mortal bodies, like 1 Corinthians 15, Hebrews 2:14-15, 1 John 3:8, 2 Timothy 1:9-10, Hosea 13:14, John 8:51-52, John 11:24-27, 1 Peter 1:22-25 and there are many more that YAHUWAH has revealed to my heart concerning the restoration of all things that teaches we are coming to the fullness of the true teachings of MeoshiYAch that He destroyed the death process in the physical body to grant true immortality in all of your physical body. The message of the gospel was all about immortality to your whole being not just a spiritual aspect, hallow the first and second Adam which are the two keys in the immortal Name of YAHUWAH. The message YAHUWAH is bringing is the fullness of the death, burial, and resurrection of His blessed Son YAHUW-shua which shall be taught into all the world as a witness of the eternal reign of the kingdom of shamaYAim and the end shall truly come, for the last enemy to be put under the feet of MeoshiYAch is death. Therefore the final message or the last trump upon the earth will be the wisdom of the fullness of love and life that is free from all forms of fear in YAHUW-shua who was raised from the dead by the power of the immortal breath of YAHUWAH, hallo RUWach QadUWsh, immortal soul of YAHUWAH breathed forth that was put upon all the true followers of MoeshiYAch known as the YAHUWans or the taught ones of YAHUW-shua the blessed Son of the immortal Creator of all creation. There are much greater revelation insights that RUWach is bringing to us at the Tree of Life that would be to lengthy in this format that have vast scriptural proofs concerning the issue of physical immortality restored through MeoshiYAch that have been omitted in all of the modern day translations that are in the original scrolls of the prophets and the true followers of MeoshiYAch that the RUWach is unveiling to us in our fellowship at the Tree of Life. YAHUWAH is our immortal Father and YAHUW-shua is our blessed Deliverance from all death and is our authority to the Tree of Life.

All of us have sinned and come short from the glory of God, except Jesus who is sinless.

Jesus said in these verse! Go ye therefore and teach all nations baptizing them in the name of the Father, Son and the Holy Spirit. Jesus did not mention NAMES but name (SINGULAR) (Proper Noun) Father, Son and Holy Spirit is NOT A NAME they are ALL TITLES! It is the name of God (JESUS CHRIST) that we should be baptize and not the TITLE for there is ONLY ONE GOD ( Deuteronomy 6:4; 1 John 5:20; Isaiah 43:10) Jehovah is Jehovah Saviour Jesus Christ revealed in the New Testament that is why there is NOT without this the plan will not be fulfilled, ( Gal 4:3-4) Fullness of time has come God sent forth his Son born of a woman ( Isaiah 7:14) God will give you a "SIGN" ( Isaiah 9:6) This boy will be given a name Emmanuel ( Matthew 1:20-23) That it is the Angel Gabriel who gave the name of this child and his name is Jesus for he shall save his people from their sins. That is why there is power in his name! Jesus will SET YOU FREE ( John 8:32) for Jesus is the way, the truth and the life, no man cometh unto the father except through ME (Jesus). Because BAPTISM refers to REMISSION OF SINS, without baptism our SINS are not forgiven and our soul is destined to hell, that is why He said in Romans 6:23: ‘’For the wages of Sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life through our Lord Jesus Christ’’. This is God's Plan of salvation. The offering of Bulls and animals is not good in the sight of God that is why He sent his Son born of a woman to redeem those who are under the law ( Galatians 4:3-4). And God is Spirit ( John 4:24), He came into world as a sinful flesh to die on the cross for our sins. That is why that in the name of Jesus there is Remission of Sins ( Acts 2:38); In the name of Jesus there is salvation ( Acts 4:12); in the name of Jesus there is healing. In other words without this process our soul will not be saved. Our faith must have WORKS ( James 2:24) God bless you all.

It proves of Christ preexistance with his father.( John 17:5) Not his being God.

13. Not just us, but you! When you except it and know it. It is an invite. When you receive the blessings of others. 14. Christ Jesus is Anointed/God`s Saviour. The word "Jews" at the end is Resident, kenites mixed in with the Jews. Its not always speaking of Jews but the people that had mixed in and the "they" crucified Christ at that time. ( John 8:44…will give you an idea of who they are. Study the scriptures and it will lead you back to Genesis 3: 15 the serpents seed. Revelation 2:8 and 3:7 the two churches Jesus loved is the ones teaching the key of David about them,"they" the jews that say they are jews but are not. # 7017 kenites sons of Cain. They mixed in 1Chron. 2:55. Also God`s 10 enemies are listed in Genesis 15:19,20,21. So we learn that 2 of every flesh made it through the flood, 2 kenites. It got so bad that the Nethinims, given to service, wood cutters and water haulers for the priest that in the book of Ezra 8:15 there was "none" nope, not one priest but a bunch of kenites playing preacher. But they started watching it and Jeremiah watched the bunch of vipers and even then they had mixed in with the Jews and finely did what scriptures states in 3:15. But Christ will return and He will crush Satans head for sitting where he ought not playing instead of Christ. Just keep Christ in your mind as written in 1 Corinthians 11:10 because Satan and his bunch of vipers are coming as 2 Corinthians 11:13,14 and that transformed is #3345 disquise. Satan as instead of Jesus and satans vipers as priest with iron breastplates, meaning priest breastplates on acting as angels of light but are not spoken of in Revelation 9:9 also hair like woman means soft spoken. Yup! Super preachers and they will take your family members to death who is the son of perdition who is death. But they know the truth and don't want to go. We find antichrist an abomination. So for 2 and a half months while satan is here there is no buying or selling and we don't bow down to no fake god we wait for our True King and husband Our LORD Christ Jesus.

THIS IS REALY TRUE ABOUT PEOPLE OF THIS WORLD,MAKING THEM SELFS FEEL BETTER ABOUT OTHERS.

This is truly one of my most favourite OF passages. It is a beautiful rebuke from God. I fall in love with God each time I hear it.

( Isa 55:11) says,
So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

Let us focus on the word "GOETH FORTH" amen!
Meaning once we speak God's word coming from our mouth to the lost (people)it says it will not return to God VOID but it will accomplice to whatever God pleases! It is the word of God that we will speak & who will convict us to know the truth the truth that will set us free ( John 8:32)
Thru the word of God nothing is impossible with God to those who will believe in him.
And i say to you you cannot understand the word of God if our hearts is closed ( Rev 3:20)
Godbless you all

Let me tell you something .. Jehovah was used for the Old testament .. We live in the New Testament now and do you find Jehovah in the New Testament. Jehovah was just another name for God .. Do you find them using Jehovahs name to cast out devils in the Old Testament ? NO ! Revelation 1:8 - I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. ~ Jesus said this .. We are reading from Isaiah are we not ? Isaiah 9:6 - For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, *The mighty God*, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Hey for Ian Wilson and the ones who "think" the name of the almighty should be Jehovah read this. 18 Let no man deceive himself.
1 Corinthians 3:18 If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise.

19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.

20 And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain.
Here is a little more Scripture for you .
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. John 1:15 John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.

John 1:1 Tells us that "The Word was god" in John 1:14 it says "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us ! " then it talks about how we beheld his "glory" .. let me add this .. In Isaiah (which is the Old Testament) 42:8 , It says " i am the Lord: that is my name: and my 'glory' will i not give to another ~ and in 1 Corinthians 2:8 is says " which none of the princes of this world knew: for had that known it, they would not have crucified the 'Lord of glory'. They would not have crucified Jesus if they knew that he was god wrapped in flesh! Let me add 1 Timothy 3:16 .. "And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit,soon of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world,received up into *glory* " !!

Exodus 3:14 - And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.

John 8:24 - I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that *I AM HE*, ye shall die in your sins.

* Act 2:38* Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of *Jesus Christ* for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Acts 8:16 (For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.)

Acts 10:48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.

Acts 19:5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.

IT IS the hour of God’s judgment! Listen, then, to the divine message: “And another, a second angel, followed, saying: ‘She has fallen! Babylon the Great has fallen, she who made all the nations drink of the wine of the anger of her fornication!’” ( Revelation 14:8) For the first time, but not the last, Revelation focuses attention on Babylon the Great. Later, chapter 17 will describe her as a voluptuous harlot. Who is she? As we shall see, she is a global empire, she is religious, and she is Satan’s counterfeit system that he uses in fighting against the seed of God’s woman. ( Revelation 12:17) Babylon the Great is the entire world empire of false religion. She includes all religions that preserve the religious teachings and practices of ancient Babylon and that manifest her spirit.
It was at Babylon, more than 4,000 years ago, that Jehovah confused the tongues of the would-be builders of the Tower of Babel. The different language groups were scattered to the ends of the earth, taking with them the apostate beliefs and practices that are the basis of most religions to this day. ( Genesis 11:1-9) Babylon the Great is the religious part of Satan’s organization. (Compare John 8:43-47.) Her most prominent segment today is apostate Christendom, which emerged as a powerful, lawless organization in the fourth century after Christ, with creeds and formalisms derived, not from the Bible, but largely from Babylonish religion.—2 Thessalonians 2:3-12.
. John is struck with wonderment at what he next hears and sees: “And one of the seven angels that had the seven bowls came and spoke with me, saying: ‘Come, I will show you the judgment upon the great harlot who sits on many waters, with whom the kings of the earth committed fornication, whereas those who inhabit the earth were made drunk with the wine of her fornication.’”— Revelation 17:1, 2.
2 “The great harlot”! Why so shocking a designation? Who is she? Some have identified this symbolic harlot with ancient Rome. But Rome was a political power. This harlot commits fornication with the kings of the earth, and this evidently includes the kings of Rome. Besides, after her destruction, “the kings of the earth” are said to mourn her passing. Therefore, she cannot be a political power. ( Revelation 18:9, 10) Additionally, since she is mourned also by the world’s merchants, she could not picture big business. ( Revelation 18:15, 16) We read, however, that ‘by her spiritistic practice all the nations were misled.’ ( Revelation 18:23) This makes it clear that the great harlot must be a worldwide religious entity.
Which religious entity? Is she the Roman Catholic Church, as some have maintained? Or is she all of Christendom? No, she must be even larger than these if she is to mislead all the nations. She is, in fact, the entire world empire of false religion. Her origin in the mysteries of Babylon is shown in that many Babylonish doctrines and practices are common to religions around the earth. For example, belief in the inherent immortality of the human soul, in a hell of torment, and in a trinity of gods is to be found in most Oriental religions as well as in the sects of Christendom. False religion, spawned more than 4,000 years ago in the ancient city of Babylon, has developed into the modern monstrosity that is called, appropriately, Babylon the Great. Why, though, is she described by the repugnant term “the great harlot”?