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Isaac, the book of Enoch is an Apocryphal book that is not found in the Canon of Scripture. It is one of the books that were considered of doubtful value/quality when the Scriptures were put together for the KJV. If you want to see those books, then just go down to the end of this Site's page & click on KJV Apocrypha.

So where the book of Enoch can be found?

" Gen. 6:2 tells us who fathered the daughters...."The sons of God (angels) saw that the daughters of men were fair, and they took wives of all they desired and chose". Jude 1:6 tells us what God did to these angels, "And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day"."

No, every person is the the "Sons of God", only those who repent of their sins and ask Christ to come into their lives and follows His commandments are "Sons and Daughters of God". The angels are also referred to as Sons of God.

" Gen. 6:2 tells us who fathered the daughters...."The sons of God (angels) saw that the daughters of men were fair, and they took wives of all they desired and chose". Jude 1:6 tells us what God did to these angels, "And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day"."

Gen. 6:2 tells us who fathered the daughters...."The sons of God (angels) saw that the daughters of men were fair, and they took wives of all they desired and chose". Jude 1:6 tells us what God did to these angels, "And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day".

And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

Genesis 6:1-4

The sons of GOD ARE INDEED Angels, this is referenced in Jude as well. So, 1st Enoch may be missing from our translations. GOD YHWH is the ONLY TRUE AND HOLY JUDGE.

Mishael and everyone else.

Archeological records do show pre-historic people were religious. Religion has existed from the beginning, not just because God created us with a desire for Him, but because Satan and his horde used it to draw people away from God. The earliest writings are religious; Gilgamesh and Sanskrit. Just as God used to walk in the Garden with Adam and Eve, Satan and fallen angels made their presence known. Was association with these fallen angels and pursuit of idolatrous religious beliefs that excluded God, what the Fruit consisted of? Of course, we don't know. But everything in the Bible points to it. From the day Adam Sinned, to the present. The earliest cave drawings show rituals God would not approve of. Why have men been drawn to spiritual worship that excludes God? Why have they believed everything except the Truth? Out of 7 Billion people on the Earth, there are only 2 Billion that bear the name of Christ.

Think about this. Why is it Christ only showed Himself to a select group, after His Resurrection? Why not go public? Why didn't anyone recognize Him? They sat with Him, talked, fished and ate with Him, and they didn't recognize Him. Why? Because God has a Plan, a design. God created with a Purpose. Why did God speak in Parables and not plainly? Because if He had, they would believe. Didn't He want everyone to believe? The answer is a resounding No.

Men have been drawn away from God from the very beginning. Why? Satan. Satan enticed Adam and Eve by appealing to their curiosity about things they didn't know about God and the universe. He preyed on their innocence and the desire God placed in us for Him. God told them not to follow those things, but like Songs 2, they were enticed. They disobeyed. Gen 6:5, Rev 2:20, 2Kings 9:22, 17:16-18, Jude 1:11. 1Sam15:23: For rebellion is like the sin of divination,

and arrogance like the evil of idolatry. Because you have rejected the word of the Lord, he has rejected you. Sound like Adam?

Larry B Jesus was, is and always shall be God, who came in the flesh to redeem mankind from sin and death.

1 Timothy 3:16

"And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory." King James Version (KJV)

God never changes. Malachi 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

Jesus never changes. Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

God is the only Saviour. "I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour." Isaiah 43:11

To the only wise God our Saviour... Jude 1:12

God our Saviour. Titus 2:10

...we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour. I Timothy 4:10

God my Saviour. Luke 1:47

Jesus is the only Saviour. ...the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world. 1 John 4:14

...our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. II Peter 3:18

...God and our Saviour Jesus Christ. II Peter 1:1

...the Christ, the Saviour of the world. John 4:42

...the Lord Jesus Christ our Saviour. Titus 1:4

a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord. Luke 2:11

Neither is there salvation in any other (than Jesus): for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

-- Acts 4:12

...salvation... is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.

-- 2 Timothy 2:10

Frederick, Jude here refers to a group of 200 angels who descended upon Mt. Hermon and took an oath between themselves, to defile humanity. Perhaps as part of Satan's attempt to foil GOD's plan of redemption.

They agreed to intermingle with women which resulted in the nephillim. This is what the spirit means when it refers to the "mighty men of old, men of reknown" mentioned in Genesis 6. The nephillim were 1/2 Man, 1/2 angel and were humongous and great in strength and became well known for their exploits. GOD put enmity between them and they set themselves against each other until they were all dead. All the greek "gods" and the titans were actually these nephillim.

When the fallen angels appealed to GOD for mercy HE sent Michael to place them in iron fetters and then placed them in Tartarus, the land of shadow, which we know also as the bottomless pit. They are there now awaiting judgment.

Jude here refers to them as examples of of the consequences of indulging the flesh and its lustful desires and willfully disobeying GOD.

A study of the metaphorical reference to stars in the Bible, shows that stars are iften a reference to people, not just physical heavenly bodies, such as stars, meteors, planets.

See examples in:

Revelation 1:20

Jude 1:13

Nahum 3:16

Judges 5:20

Revelation 9:1

All I can honestly say on this subject is that Angels did leave their first estate to mate with the daughters of men, the bible declares it and I believe it. The book of Enoch tells the story in detail.

YES! It is an abomination in the eyes of god! read 1 timothy 1:9-10, Romans 1:26-27, the bible clearly states that it is a shameless act and has a due penalty. God in his word in Jude 1:7 says that Sodom and Gomorrah served as an example of hat will happen if you peruse the unnatural lusts of the flesh- you will be cast into eternal fire!

Where do you think the word Sodomy comes from? its a word of shameful acts against god.

These are the scriptures that refer to angels that were with Satan. Before Satan was removed from heaven: Satan's name had been Lucifer; angels that were with him were called sons of God. They were all thrown out. Where I don't know.

It's in the Bible. I knew I had read it.

Job1:6; Job 2:1, Revelation 12:9 and 12:7

2 Peter 2: 4-5 and Jude 1:6

Why would God destroy the earth with water unless something had happened at Eden. I'm not going to play a guessing game.

That is why it is not His one and only son, It is then in fact His only begotten Son, in all creation!

Read Matthew 24 and look at all the earthquakes lately. Look into the Noahide laws that is on the books in America. They are not currently being enforced yet. Ask where the noahide laws are in the Bible. The laws given to Noah. They exist only in the minds of rabbis. look into the punishment for breaking the noahide laws and then read revelation 20:4
then ask that question again. People have been saying it is the end times for hundreds of years. however every day is a day closer.

Are we in the end times?

sons of God in the new testament after being born again they are to become.
Adam is also called a son of God
and the angels were the only sons of God in the old testament.
Jesus is the ONLY BEGOTTEN Son of God.

Sons of God are as saints, made a little lower than the angels. The kingdom of heaven is not unlike the creation. Similar in that there are angels messengers of God for the benefit of man, and men who believe in the power of Christ are saints! Abiding in Christ is a gift according to his mercy He saved us. The water is washing of regeneration, Blood is the sanctification, the spirit is life. This is His creation, this is His will. Before the fall of man ,the creation was perfect. The creation of man and his faith in the gospel will be Satan's downfall. In the end the extension of his creation of heaven and earth will be found in the power of Christ. Everlasting life. All glory to God!

Jude writes so much in so few words. He brings a message of both hope and rebuke. As I read this letter I was impressed by the knowledge of the story of the Exodus his audience must have had. I am impressed that they were most certainly Jewish Christians. Today S I read this letter and apply it to my life I am impressed to listen to the warning about false teachers and their lust for earthly things and pleasures. Today's churches are full of these false teachers. But I am more inspired by the clear teaching of Jude that we are saved by the Father Preserved by Jesus Christ and have hope for the future. The judgement is God's not mine and God alone can judge others. Hold on to the Truth!

I believe there are unique times of fearing God & serving God. Sometimes the fear of God is to fear His wrath that will influence people to serving Him. I believe a heathy fear of God is important, like serving a righteous Father that is a God of justice: Psalms 2:11 , Psalms 5:7 , Psalms 15:4 , Psalms 25:14 , Psalms 34:11 , Proverbs 1:7 , Ecclesiastes 12:13, Ephesians 6:5 ,
I love the Scripture Bob quoted 'perfect love casts out all fear' but that is what Jesus did in action & it's what we do when we LOVE Him, we trust Him through all fear, because He is faithful. Psalms 23:4 , Psalms 27:3 , Psalms 33:18 , Psalms 49:5
Be encouraged, Jude 1:24
I pray God lead you to a good Church

I hope these scriptures help you in seeking truth & good favor with God :)
James 1:2-5
James 1:13-15
James 1:19-27
Jude 1:24-25

When we see suffering, or we ourselves are suffering, we don't understand the full picture. God has compassion on all he has created. Sometimes it's up to us to comfort others as we ourselves have been.
I Peter 4:12-19
I Peter 3:8
Jude 1:21-24
I hope that helps

Mathew 25:31-46
Philippians 2:4-15
Jude 1:21-25
Hopefully that helps your study :) & encourages

Yes Betty we do Study the Scriptures but not without seeking Jesus our Spiritual Teacher first who Leads us into Knowing all Truth..... Hebrews1:5 For unto which of the Angels said He at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten Thee? And again, I will be to Him a Father and He shall be to me a Son..... Hope this helps.

Betty, Angles didn't Marry earthly Woman Jude confirms why they are waiting punishment too. God has never called an Angel His Son and their DNA is not compatible with Humans. We need to not only ask for Gods Wisdom and Empowering by The Holy Spirit but believe we have received it too. Than Jesus our only Spiritual Teacher will lead us into all Truth with the Confirmation of Scripture or Creation.

ALSO GENESIS 6;7....... God had the flood to destroy the GIANTS....Notice Noahs flood

Some of you have not read Genesis 6:2 & 6:4 .the sons of God (Angels did marry the daughters of men, and id have children by them,they were giants
Study your Bible !

I after seeing the way Peter and Paul bound Matthew the strong man God spoke of entrusted by God with the largest section of the NewTestament, who said let no man be called master. Peter and Paul as Jude says snuck in, Paul a Pharasee killer of Christians Peter a denyer of Christ. They teamed up on Matthew not putting brothers into slavery to what they so sinfully called human masters, when you slave the least of the brothers you slave Jesus. He speaks of the pressure, but tried to warn of the traitors in his midst. Jesus Matthew and those who loved Jesus doctrine easily confirms their identity as Peter and Paul helping mortals profit by taking slaves unlike Moses who freed slaves

In Jude the warning is of the evil people in our trust whom have long posed as our protectors and teachers that have always made their ways go by as if innocent so long as death was preserved for witnessing victims... It is our Lord Jesus Christ who died our sins and not those led astray, tortured and killed in slavery thereafter. We Christian's must hold each others faith in The Holy Spirit through Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ within us!!! God will cast our stones so that might be all that those ungodly serpents see....

Hi John the Theologian Spurgon referred to Jesus as The Arch Angel Michael but we know this was wrong because God said when have I ever called my Son an Angel Heb1 and that they would bow down to Jesus who was as we know also called Emanuel meaning God with us and The Word and other Names which all have meanings and show His Divinity as One in Spirit with The Father and The Holy Ghost 1John5:7.