Discuss Judges 13

'There is more Scripture objectively condemning the use of alcoholic beverages than will be found on the subjects of lying, adultery, swearing, cheating, hypocrisy, pride, or even blasphemy.

1) Genesis 9:20-26 - Noah became drunk; the result was immorality and family trouble.

2) Genesis 19:30-38 - Lot was so drunk he did not know what he was doing; this led to immorality

3) Leviticus 10:9-11 - God commanded priests not to drink so that they could tell the difference between the holy and the unholy.

4) Numbers 6:3 - The Nazarites were told to eat or drink nothing from the grape vine.

5) Deuteronomy 21:20 - A drunken son was stubborn and rebellious.

6) Deuteronomy 29:5-6 - God gave no grape juice to Israel nor did they have intoxicating drink in the wilderness.

7) Deuteronomy 32:33 - Intoxicating wine is like the poison of serpents, the cruel venom of asps.

8) Judges 13:4, 7, 14 - Samson was to be a Nazarite for life. His mother was told not to drink wine or strong drink.

9) 1 Samuel 1:14-15 - Accused, Hannah said she drank no wine.

10) 1 Samuel 25:32-38 - Nabal died after a drunken spree.

11) 2 Samuel 11:13 - By getting Uriah drunk, David hoped to cover his sin.

12) 2 Samuel 13:28-29 - Amnon was drunk when he was killed.

13) 1 Kings 16:8-10 - The king was drinking himself into drunkenness when he was assassinated

14) 1 Kings 20:12-21 - Ben-Hadad and 32 other kings were drinking when they were attacked and defeated by the Israelites.

15) Esther 1:5-12 - The king gave each one all the drink he wanted. The king was intoxicated when he commanded the queen to come.

16) Psalm 75:8 - The Lord's anger is pictured as mixed wine poured out and drunk by the wicked.

17) Proverbs 4:17 - Alcoholic drink is called the wine of violence.

18) Proverbs 20:1 - Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging.

19) Proverbs 23:19-20 - A wise person will not be among the drinkers of alcoholic beverages.

20) Proverbs 23:21 - Drunkenness causes poverty.

21) Proverbs 23:29-30 -

[There are 549 scriptures on strong drink, meaning fermented.]

Isaiah 24:9

They shall not drink wine with a song; strong drink shall be bitter to them that drink it.

Isaiah 5:22

Woe unto them that are mighty to drink wine, and men of strength to mingle strong drink:

Isaiah 28:7

But they also have erred through wine, and through strong drink are out of the way; the priest and the prophet have erred through strong drink, they are swallowed up of wine, they are out of the way through strong drink; they err in vision, they stumble in judgment.

Judges 13:7

But he said unto me, Behold, thou shalt conceive, and bear a son; and now drink no wine nor strong drink,

Proverbs 20:1

Wine is a mocker, strong drink is RAGING; and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise.

Isaiah 5:11

Woe unto them that rise up early in the morning, that they may follow strong drink; that continue until night, till wine inflame them!

Isaiah 56:12

Come ye, say they, I will fetch wine, and we will fill ourselves with strong drink; and to morrow shall be as this day, and much more abundant.

Proverbs Chapter 23

29 Who hath woe? who hath sorrow? who hath contentions? who hath babbling? who hath wounds without cause? who hath redness of eyes? (tears)

30 They that tarry long at the wine; they that go to seek mixed wine.

31 Look not thou upon the wine when it is red, when it giveth his colour in the cup, when it moveth itself aright.

32 At the last it biteth like a serpent, and stingeth like an adder.

33 Thine eyes shall behold strange women, and thine heart shall utter perverse things.

34 Yea, thou shalt be as he that lieth down in the midst of the sea, or as he that lieth upon the top of a mast.

35 They have stricken me, shalt thou say, and I was not sick; they have beaten me, and I felt it not: when shall I awake? I will seek it yet AGAIN.

Life is easier without being under the influence of anything that causes the brain to harden and go dark.

Hebrews 11 is a lot of people known by God who were recorded as doing great things by Faith. Samson was one of those. His mother had trouble conceiving also. He had a purpose to accomplish with his life:

God created you for a higher purpose

In the biblical book of Judges (chapters 13-16) we meet Manoah and his wife, a couple who were unable to have children until God intervened in their situation. More than that, God placed a special calling on their soon-to-be-born son, Samson, even before he had been knit together in his mother's womb.

Samson was handpicked by God to liberate God's people. Samson grew up knowing God's will for his life. His parents made sure he heard the story of how he had been chosen by God before he was born. His marching orders were made clear by the angel of the LORD who had visited his parents. Moreover, God gave him supernatural strength, so Samson had everything he needed to deliver God's people, Israel, from the oppressive hands of the Philistines (see Judges 13:5).

God chose you, and gave you a purpose before you were even born. When God created heaven and earth, he knew that one day you would find yourself right where you are at this moment. You have been created in the image of God, and you were made for a purpose.

It is totally Biblical to pray for your unborn child. God called unborn babies to be prophets for Him.

So tell her I said she is carrying a very special child. It marks a baby in such a good way to read Children's Bible stories to them. They learn the real world, and not fairy tLes.

Gods blessing on you, Mishael

Verse 8-Manoah sought the direction of God when it came to raising children. This is an excellent example for parents to follow.

Isaiah 58:1-14, Daniel 1:5-20, Daniel 10:2-4, Matthew 6:16-18, Matthew 4:1-2, Exodus 34:28, Judges 13:1-5,7,14,

I hope these scriptures give you some insight on a few perspectives, examples related.

I have heard many fast by not eating meat or sweets, mostly vegetables. Some turn off T.V., radio or other habits. Some have done all liquid only, such as broths, juices etc. Most people won't recommend a total fast, but some will do a 3 day no food or liquid fast.

I personally recommend you seek GOD fully before you do any fast. If you feel led by the HOLY SPIRIT to fast HE will help you. It is a very personal thing & if you don't feel personally led, I recommend you wait. Matthew 23:1-4,

There are moments to humble yourself, seek GOD's face in a powerful way, to teach yourself submission, break stronghold habits, difficult choices, impossible situations, etc. Trust the LORD to lead you, sustain you & keep you.

More scriptures to consider. Matthew 17:14-21, Mark 9:16-29,

Kayode olatise Samsons biggest error was giving away a secret that was between Him and God in regards to His hair because that is where his strength came from. When he divulged info to delilah he sealed his fate.

An interesting note Judges 13:5 For thou shalt conceive and bear a son and no razor shall come upon His head [they are very specific instructions from the angel to follow] for the child shall be a nazarite unto God from the womb: and he shall begin to deliver Israel out of the hand of the Philistines.

Who else is the area of nazareth of Galilee mentioned only to deliver all people who choose to believe for all time. Its incredible how much Information from the angel was given to manoah and his wife on what to do with the child from verse 5 to verse 20. Another remarkable record of God delivering Israel His Way. In His Service

OSEAS, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

The Revelation (the revealing) of Jesus Christ, which God (the Father) gave to him (Jesus Christ) to show (to reveal) to his servants (God's elect) things (kingdom of God, CHRIST IN YOU) which must shortly come to pass (before your body of flesh naturally dies); and He (the Father) sent and signified it (hid the revelation in symbols) by HIS ANGEL (Jesus is the Angel of the Lord) unto his servant John.

The ANGEL (of the Lord) is JESUS CHRIST.

Judges 6:21

Judges 6:22

Judges 13:21

Judges 13:16

I love this passage of God's Word. We can glean quite a bit of God's character and why He does different things. His omnipresence in always being there for us. His omniscience in knowing what we need. His love in our daily provision. Many, many more.

God created you for a higher purpose

In the biblical book of Judges (chapters 13-16) we meet Manoah and his wife, a couple who were unable to have children until God intervened in their situation. More than that, God placed a special calling on their soon-to-be-born son, Samson, even before he had been knit together in his mother's womb.

Samson was handpicked by God to liberate God's people. Samson grew up knowing God's will for his life. His parents made sure he heard the story of how he had been chosen by God before he was born. His marching orders were made clear by the angel of the LORD who had visited his parents. Moreover, God gave him supernatural strength, so Samson had everything he needed to deliver God's people, Israel, from the oppressive hands of the Philistines (see Judges 13:5).

God chose you, and gave you a purpose before you were even born. When God created heaven and earth, he knew that one day you would find yourself right where you are at this moment. You have been created in the image of God, and you were made for a purpose. One of the most important things you can do, then, is to seek God's guidance concerning what your main mission should be, and how you can best fulfill it.

I pray for the ptsd to lessen. It's such a difficult condition but none too hard for our Lord and Savior. I'm praying for his condition to improve at once. God bless you both!!!!

Robert, okay I see your approach in writing this & I fully agree with what you've said. And to highlight the importance of the message, is indeed very important, though I find that one still needs to deal with the 'trees & leaves' for better understanding of that message. And this is probably where our divergent opinions become more pronounced as we grapple with those specific words; and I'm not referring to Bible translations, which you mentioned, here.

For example, I think of the endless debate on the Lord's Second Coming: indeed, it is a matter of great interest & expectation for most of us, but we all have our opinions on, for example, the 'last trump' & are convinced that what we believe is what is going to happen. I feel it is the right thing to want exposition of that phrase, but we generally won't admit that there is a possibility that we're wrong & just have to leave the matter until more Light comes our way. Yesterday, I was listening to a study on this aspect, where the teacher spoke of the Feast of Trumpets relating to the 'last trump'. He had taken pains to go through each of the Jewish Feasts, seeing each one fulfilled in Christ & the Church. So, I thought that was interesting, but should I accept that view in the light of the other interpretations offered? There must be a time when we need to step back & remain open without having guilt for not following a particular view. Blessings to you too as we together hunger more of God's Word.

Please! Pray for my son. He is in a crisis right now. He was wounded in Iraq soffer from ptsd,

. He need God! Please.

Thanks for your input Chris.

I was definitely not disputing the validity of God or Jesus. What I was attempting to point out is the attempt of people to claim this is a manifestation of God or Jesus when the Bible does not say one way or another.

As for the intention of translations, I was attempting to point out that people seem to lose sight of the forest looking at the trees. It doesn't matter what a single verse says (tree); much less a word (leaf or branch). What matters is the message or context.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Each path to Discipleship is between the Holy Spirit and the person. In the end we all will be judged on our personal beliefs and choices (free will).

As the Israelites, we all need to question, Are we worshipping God His way, or our way? In my opinion, the Bible should translate and interpret itself.

Also prayer, conversation, study, devotionals, history, reflection and always keeping the scriptures in your mind assist you on your journey with the creator.

Blessings.

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King of kings & Lord of lords are of course terms given generally to Jesus to signify that there is none greater than any earthly king, whether real or imagined. And a clear claim to His Deity is also seen in these words.

I couldn't get your intention with "translations of I Am or Jehovah". Is there a dispute with this?

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Robert, I agree, that these occurrences in the Bible can be a little perplexing, as generally we understand that God's Throne is in Heaven, Jesus (post resurrection) is at the Father's right Hand ( Heb 10:12) & the Holy Spirit has come to Earth in Jesus' stead ( Jn 14:26, 16:7-11).

Yet, you state: "I am often puzzled by the need of the last few generations to make all angels Jesus." I think you are referring to a 'Theophany', as in Gen 18:1-3, 32:24ff, or a 'Christophany', as in Judg 6:11-24, 2 Ki 19:35. There are of course, many other references to such manifestations. As well, one has to also understand the nature & work of Angels. My own sense is that if a person cannot in all good conscience discern the evidence for God or the Word, (Jesus, pre-incarnate) manifesting Themselves to man, or whether they were in fact Angels representing the God-Head, then no wrong judgement has been committed. The evidence one way or the other is not entirely clear & one cannot raise qualified objections to someone's different opinion. The fact that God did speak to men in such a manner is clear, but how & why He chose to bring His Word or His Presence to the view of man, remains unclear.

"What would be the purpose of 10 thousand angels if all they did was sing songs?" I don't believe that the entire host in Heaven are only there to 'sing songs'. Of course, there appears to be constant worship to God & singing of His Praises, but there are also a multitude of tasks that angels perform: Heb 1:13,14, "Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?" So, they are also sent out to minister in a myriad of ways. You can find them in the Bible, ministering to physical needs, for protection, for encouragement, in regards to children, giving of the Law, directing lives, at the Second Coming of Christ, etc. So, they are busy about the Lord's business & not idling away their time.

I am often puzzled by the need of the last few generations to make all angels Jesus.

What would be the purpose of 10 thousand angels if all they did was sing songs?

What would be the meaning of "King of Kings" or sitting at the right of God?

Like the man of authority said, I speak and they do. Jesus sits on the right hand of God and commands. If He had to keep coming to Earth, why?

And that brings up the second objection of translations of a particular word (ie: I am or Jehovah). The Bible is to be taken in faith. Not absolutes. The answers to all questions are not included. However, do you choose to follow God (in faith); or believe in other forms of worship is (Satan, delusions, false prophets, traditions, etc.)

I am not trying to be offensive or claim I know better than anyone else. I seek God's will and to become a Disciple of Christ through the Holy Spirit. I am just trying to test all things and prove them.

When the angel of the LORD answered Manoah,He said I am. Only GOD can declare this. Also, after He ascended,. Manoah realized he and his wife had seen GOD. He was terrified and thought they would die. The term angel means messenger.

I would never be able to explain more effulgent than you did right there.

The angel of God is NOT Jesus. Jesus is not an angel. Jesus was human in likeness just like us. He was the Son of God. There are many angels in Heaven. They are all angels of God.

Verse 8~Manoah prayed to Jehovah God for instruction on how to raise his son. Children are a gift from God and parents should look to God for direction in how to train and raise their children.

Samson was an only child. He had no biological brothers or sisters. His mother was baron until the angle of the Lord said she would have a child.

And the woman bare a son, and called his name Samson: and the child grew, and the LORD blessed him.
What a glorious begining and the desire of Godly parents. May our children not only be blessed by the Lord , may they also fear God trusting and obeying HIM all the days of their life

Verse 28 We see the amazing forgiveness of God. He remembered Samson when he called on him to do so.

Here are a few words that show at times "Angel of the Lord" is, The Lord. (KJV) does not capitalize "angel". Judges 13:9-25 V.22"because we have seen God." Judges 2"I led you up from Egypt, I will never break my covenant."Gen.16:6-8,Gen.22:15, Exodus 3:2"in a flame of fire from the midst of a bush." Read in context or the entire chapter to see the truth. Some versions do use caps for Angel.

Hello Saints! In verse 20-For it came to pass, when the flame went up toward heaven from off the altar, that the angel of the LORD ascended in the flame of the altar. And Manoah and his wife looked on it, and fell on their faces to the ground. I have only one word for the appearance of Yahweh, on planet earth. PRICELESS!

Often times in the bible divine revelations come first to the wife. Women play important roles in the family.Also women do give assurance and affirm God's promises to their husbands and leaders,i.e wife of Manoah, Abigail, Deborah etc .There is need for modern women to come closer to God and start fulfilling their divine assignments to their families, communities and their nations.

Again, God chooses the unqualified ones! a barren woman to bring forth a savior! What about the wits of Mr. Manoah? vs 22...he thinks he were to die because he had seen God!!!! I love the wits and audacity of Mrs.Manoah in vs 23. Women ooyee!!!! deliverance after 18 years of bondage, a man like Jephtha or Gideon could handle, but after 40 years!!! that required a man of special birth, a Nazirite!!

The Name of the Father, Jesus said, I manifested thy name John 17:6 I declared thy name John 17:26 What name did he manifest declare. In my name ye shall. Mark 16:16-18. As he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent Name than the angels. Hebrews 1:4. We all inherit our names from our Father, but that name was kept secret in the old test. The angel of The Lord had that name in him. Ex. 23:21 My name is in him. Judges 13:18 seeing it is secret. Luke 1:31. The angel said thou shall call his name Jesus. Isaiah 12:2 Jehovah is become my salvation, which means Jesus. The mighty God. The Everlasting Father, his name is Jesus. Jesus said no man know who the Father is but the Son, and to whomever he will reveal him Math. 11:27. Pray the Son will give u revelation.

Heavenly father thank you for who YOU ARE. son mercful

it is God who chooses and he can bless those who have been called barren God knows our destiny even before we are fashioned in our mother womb If we ask of God he can show us how to raise our children to fulfill their God given purpose