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Are you implying that Jesus did His part of the work of salvation and the rest is up to us in order to complete God's salvation plan? This is a common theme amongst church going people, but as I have explained earlier, God's salvation plan is God's and God's alone, no human being as no part to play or contribute to his or her salvation. None deserves His mercy and grace. Salvation is of 3 parts, 1- CHOSEN, 2- PAYMENT FOR SIN and 3- RESURRECTION. 1 has been accomplished from before the foundation of the world( CHOSEN). 2 Jesus PAID for the chosen over 2000 years ago and 3 is the final part to complete God's salvation plan; the RESURRECTION from death.

Man agree that they can not pay for their sins and they also agree they can not resurrect themselves, but they think they can at least choose to be saved. If that's the basis of being saved, then only the very, very few who have the chance to hear the gospel will have faith which cometh by hearing. This topic is a very long one therefore I'm writing about this very issue in my book. I hope you will get a copy so you can agree with God's plan. God bless you

No. That was Herod Agrippa I.

Jesus did pay it all at Calvary, he completed his work, all the work. The hearers and the thirsty are invited into his righteousness, rest and peace by faith and repentance. The same, staying faithful, will know the presence of Holy Ghost while time remains.

Is Herod Antipas the King spoken of in Acts 12?

As I remember, I think I made that statement in reply to what Daren was commenting on. I was explaining that Jesus' death did not pay for all, the payment is only for those who God choose, past, present and future, and gives them to Jesus who said, "those that the Father gives to me I will in no wise cast out ." God bless you

Hey Richard!

Remember the writers of Deuteronomy and Psalms, Moses and King David respectively. Their concept of hell at the time of being inspired by God could only go as for as their knowledge level at that time will allow. We today understand much more about hell because of the New Testament's revelation as recorded by the disciples and apostles.

And in spite of our understanding, people still think hell will be somewhere out there from earth. God said you shall surely die, speaking to the entire creation including mankind and that's why everything lives and dies. God also was speaking to the evil spirit that He created when He said the word evil. Yes Richard, this is where hell will be and it will not be burning for ever and for ever. There is no way merciful God will keep people burning for ever. Only life in paradise with God Almighty will be for ever. If the earth will take 100 days to burn up, that's it. When the 100 days expires, the earth and all things in it will cease to exist. That's one of God's great mercy for sinners that we are and the opposite for those He choose who are also sinners because all have sinned even the unborn.

Not offended here. I'm going to do some studying and let the Holy Spirit guide me.

it means to obey Jesus to be baptized in his spirit, in the name of the Father, the Holy Son and the Holy spirit. There are things we seem to be perplexed of his words but take heart to trust him in faith as he is faithful to us. For example do you trust your parents who raised you is the same way to trust Jesus Christ when we repent to leave our sins to him and he will take care of the rest. Every person is unique in every different experience once we get the holy spirit may be at the time of your baptism or a few hours later, it could be days or weeks whatever that may be.. don't let people or Christians tell you otherwise because you have a relationship with him in prayer by yourself and he will listen to every word you say.

believe me of course lots of patience and faith will come to you. I say to him to forgive my daily transgressions in knowing and not knowing, he knows we mean it when we confess to him. Not to a pastor or priest or Mary right :) will say a prayer for you sister.

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Hi Cindy

There are two pits, one pit is the same as hell these two are the grave, Job.17:16 They shall go down to the bars of the pit when our rest together is in the dust. Psalms 30:9 What profit is there in my blood, when I go down to the pit? Shall the dust praise thee? shall it declare thy truth? Psalms16:10 For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. We see in Revelation death and hell are cast into the lake of fire there is no more need of the grave (hell), for there will be no more death. Revelation 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

The other is the bottomless pit, this is where the angels that left their first estate are and where Satan will be chained and sealed. This is where the beast will ascend from. Jude.1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. Rev.17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

Many think of heaven and hell as a place people go after this fleshly death the first death. Heaven for the saved and hell for the damned. This has crept in from the Pagan religions starting from the Hellenistic times Christianity started and continued in traditions. I believe the lake of fire is not on this earth because people are still on earth when the beast and the false prophet were cast in. I believe the Bible teaches the saved and damned sleep in the dust until the resurrection when this mortal puts on immortality. I hope this does not offend anyone but I feel this is what the scriptures say.

God bless us, Ron

Why would you make the statement "If everyone is forgiven" ?

Would not count on the Earth to be a safe hiding place from the Lake of Fire.

The abyss of hell which imprisons the dead without Christ and demons. Romans 9:1-12

So when Satan is thrown into the pit to burn forever along with his angles and sinners you think this will be "on" the earth? What about deut. 32:22 "unto the lowest hell", Job 11:8 "deeper than hell", Psalm 55:15 "let them go DOWN quick", hell is not a fire on earth!

Never take sin lightly it has the sting of death to it .

Willful sin is apostasy to those that should know better .

Well, the pit as referenced in the Bible relates to the grave and/or hell. Remember after God created the earth He said there is no man to till the ground? Now think, why would God need a man to till the ground? Well this goes to show that this creation was not meant to be paradise forever. By this I mean, there are 3 reasons why we till the ground. 1: to lay a foundation to build a house to live in. 2: to plant a garden for food to live and 3: so our offspring can bury us when we die.

This pit the Bible refers to is the latter. The LORD said "you shall surely die " referring to the finality of the knowledge of evil for the entire creation. Those who God choose from the foundation of the world will not remain in the grave for the dead in Christ shall rise first. Hope this helps. God bless you

The Pit, from eternity's standpoint, is Satan's prison. It is the place of the dead. It is the entry place into eternal suffering apart from God, for those who so desired to be apart from Him.

LOL, thats all we do is backslide!!

What??? What is the pit the Bible refers to many times?

Karen,

S Spencer has given you a great answer. I would like to touch a little on something that was mentioned, which is "habitual sin". A believer who has been born of the Spirit of Christ (Born-Again) no longer has the capacity to live a continuous lifestyle of habitual sin, the lifestyle they once lived before coming to know Christ.

A believer can commit single acts of sin, but can no longer sin habitually because God's Spirit lives in the believer, convicts the believer of sin, and brings the believer to repentance. If a person can continue to sin with no conviction in their heart, then that person needs to take inventory of their life, even if they claim to be Christian.

It is God's Spirit (Holy Spirit) who convicts a person of sin, and it is His Spirit who keeps us from sinning (Habitually).

If you are saved, you will go to heaven. God promises you that. But please keep in mind that we do not go to heaven based on what we do or don't do, but what Christ has done for us. Getting into heaven has nothing to do with human performance. When we stand before God, we are going to know that we are guilty. God is not going to look at our human effort and say "You've done far more good than bad, so come on in."

What God is going to see in us is His Son, Jesus Christ. And that's the only basis for us entering in. Jesus has promised to NEVER leave us, and as long as He lives in us, which He has promised to never leave, we are secure in Him!

As for backsliding, it is not found in the New Testament and is never applied to the believer in Christ. It is strictly an Old Testament term describing the Children of Israel.

The word you are describing is "covet," not covenant.

Covet: yearn to possess or have something or someone that belongs to someone else.

Covenant: a usually formal, solemn, and binding agreement: compact. How to use covenant in a sentence.

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The way I understood is it was a promise between God and his creation. He will protect us and we will keep his law. To Covet would be the sin the one person was telling you. Watch "The days of Noah, parts 1-4" on Amazon. That will help a lot. It really was a great series. Just keep watching and you'll see. As far as Jacob, I think he only had 1 wife and a 2nd and there is a story to why that was but I'm still studying the Bible as well.

Covenant what does this mean? I had someone tell me that covenant meant that you want what someone else has and that it is a sin? I am reading Genesis and in here it does not say that I am confused on this word and its meaning. Also why does Jacob have childeren with other women and he is married. is that not a sin? Rachel is also Jacob's mother's brother's daughter and Jacob marry's her is that not a sin bc that means they are blood kin? I am so confused on this

Very good.

Hi Karen, How do you define backslide? Is it habitual sin? or is it a sin where he's overtaken in a fault? If it's an habitual sin where a person continues in sin I think the question is was he ever saved. I think we all struggle and some more than others, it depends on their spiritual growth, 1st Peter 2:2. As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby: IF A person is saved and falls into sin the Holy spirit will always give that person a conscience, or punishment and even physical death, but he will be saved. 1 Corinthians 3:10-17, According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.

For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.

Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;

Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.

If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

Can a child of God saved backslide and go to heaven

Hello Vince,

I very much liked this post of yours as I agree. As I enjoy the teachings of Paul there are a few "snares" as you called them. We should read the Word of the Lord, Holy Bible, as a whole and not think one prophet or apostle was better than the other. All unique members but of the one body of Christ. Be thankful for all of them.

One thing that was brought to my attention just recently. Paul stating in Galatians 5:14 "The law is fulfilled in one word, even this; Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thy self".

When the Lord was asked "which is the greatest commandment" in Matthew 22:36-40: Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

38 This is the first and great commandment.

39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

Like you stated we should stay focused on the Lord and keep our attention on Him.

God Bless.

This is the Rapture: 1 Corinthians 15:51-53 "Behold, I show you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality."

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