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  • S Spencer - In Reply on Isaiah 43 - 3 years ago
    Hi Sonja.

    Leviticus 18:22.

    Leviticus 20:13.

    1 Corinthians 6:9. Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor ( EFFEMINATE, )nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

    To begin with, it came into the world as a form of punishment.

    Romans 1:19-28. Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

    For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

    Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

    Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

    And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

    Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

    Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

    For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

    And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

    And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

    Sonja stay with it using scripture and pray often without ceasing,

    Study scripture with him often and stay close to him.

    Please stay in touch and God bless.
  • Michael - In Reply on Nehemiah 8 - 3 years ago
    Hello Dan.

    I would suggest that the "commandments" referred to in 1 John 5:2, 3 are not the 10 commandments nor the Mosaic Law commandments. If that were so, then Christians would be obligated to circumcise their children as per God's commandment at Leviticus 12:3. The New Testament said that circumcision is not required at Acts 15. Yet, that was a commandment of God. If we are to obey all God's commandments, then why do we not go up to Jerusalem three times a year as was commanded by God's commandment at Deuteronomy 16:16. Why do we not stone adulterers and adulteresses as commanded by God at Leviticus 20:10. That was his commandment.

    I would suggest that the "commandments" of God referred to at 1 John 5:2, 3 are the New Covenant commandments that were given to the Church through the Apostles via revelations such as to the Apostle Paul and inspiration as others wrote the New Testament - Romans to Revelation. In those instructions, we are never commanded to keep the Sabbath Day holy nor to keep the kosher laws. In fact, we are commanded the opposite:

    Colossians 2:16 "Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:"

    Therefore, Christians do not obey the Old Covenant Mosaic Law given to ancient Israel but only to the New Covenant Laws given to the Church via the Apostles through the epistles of Romans to Revelation. Jeremiah had prophesied such at:

    Jeremiah 31:31, 32 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: NOT according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
  • Chris - In Reply on Deuteronomy 8 - 3 years ago
    Hello James. As far as I know, the Bible is silent on this topic, probably because it was not a practice of God's people, rather more in line to what the heathen would do. The references that come up are found in the Old Testament: 1 Samuel 31:11-13; Amos 2:1; Leviticus 20:14. However, Israel generally resorted to burial in a tomb, cave or ground: Genesis 23:19; 2 Chronicles 16:14; Matthew 27:57-60.

    So, the Church is not given a specific direction on this, as ultimately, the body returns to dust "from whence it came" ( Ecclesiastes 12:7). It then becomes the decision by the family of the departed to have a burial or a cremation, depending on preference, costs, or availability. My choice would always be for a burial, in line with what was practised by Israel.
  • The Bible vs Public Education - In Reply on James 1 - 3 years ago
    Basically the Bible teaches us to love God, and HATE sin.

    There is no fuzziness in what the Bible teaches in Romans 1, Leviticus 20:13, Deuteronomy 22:22

    My kid came home from school upset because he had to take a test the next day: and agree that man evolved from apes. He knew it was blasphemy because I quizzed him. I told him that he had MY PERMISSION and SUPPORT to FLUNK THAT TEST!! We would make extra credits some other way.

    If we don't agree with what public education is teaching our kids: instead of warming a church pew, teach in children's church what the truth is.

    What did King David do as a young shepherd boy when he heard his God being cursed by the Philistines? He went down to the battlefield and took off Goliaths head!!

    If a kid flunks a test find out how much it reduces the grade point average for the course.

    Our children need to know they do not have to conform to something they do not believe in, MORALLY. Do your kids know what morals are? They aren't being taught that in school. Colleges beat in your brains with godless information till you cave in and say what they want on a test. Choose a Christian College!

    In 1962, the Lords Prayer, the Ten Commandments and the Pledge of Allegiance to our National Flag was removed from schools. That was bad... but now they are forcing our kids to be gay, so they can belong. Even 6 year old kids who don't even know what sexual acts are. Do they know what sexual diseases are? That they are itchy, ooze, and cause irreparable harm to the body, so they can't have children later?

    It takes guts to stand up for your kids and say NO to the gay education reformers. You'd fight back if someone tried to muscle you out of a parking place.

    Teach your children & grandchildren about God. One day we will give an account to Gods Face, what we personally did about His Word - the Bible! There's no reward for cowardice or APATHY!

    Speak up before it's TOO LATE.

    Mishael
  • LACEy on Leviticus 20:10 - 3 years ago
    By the way i am an adult now, but i was just asking what the adult "child " could do with a rebellious family member. I understand the verse here talks about if the man commits adultery, but in my own life, it was quite different.
  • Jesse - In Reply on Mark 6 - 3 years ago
    Shirley,

    According to Jewish law, Herod was committing adultery. That is why John said it is unlawful for you to have your brother's wife.

    Leviticus 18:16 says "Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy brother's wife: it is thy brother's nakedness."

    Again in Leviticus 20:21, it says "And if a man shall take his brother's wife, it is an unclean thing: he hath uncovered his brother's nakedness; they shall be childless.
  • Steve Taplin on Leviticus 20 - 3 years ago
    Just remember...

    The word of God was written for a child to understand.

    Albeit, that some books, chapter, verses are written with a heavenly meaning...parable...prophesy, that are hidden until revealed in Gods time.

    Example:

    If I would write a chapter on any subject...many people whom read it may have different interpretations especially if it were translated in different languages.

    There are many verses in the bible that are confusing to me (I read the bible translated to the KJV)...but I must only look to the bible for the answers or to hear or see the blessing of God.
  • SkipVought - In Reply on Leviticus 20 - 3 years ago
    "And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins." Mat 1:21

    "And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS." Mat 1:25

    "And when eight days were accomplished for the circumcising of the child, his name was called JESUS, which was so named of the angel before he was conceived in the womb." Luk 2:21
  • Sally on Leviticus 20 - 3 years ago
    How old was Jesus when he was officially given the name Jesus?
  • Lindascooks - In Reply on Leviticus 20 - 3 years ago
    In the Bible a man lost his life for spilling his seed on the ground. God doesn't always tell man why he commands certain things from however he did say "I am the LORD, and I change not. I believe that those things which he wishes to change with mankind he states so.
  • Elijah shows after Rev 614 through Rev 612 just before the 6th trumpet - In Reply on Leviticus 20 - 3 years ago
    If the wanker is behaving like Caligula, while entertaining impure thoughts of coitus with his married neighbor----his imagination is sinful, is it not? You are correct for our society, but perhaps not some thousands of years ago.

    In Noah's time there were 900 year old giants roaming around. They lived long lives to populate the earth, until the time of Moses when the life span was cut to 120. So, I'm sure this group of procreating flood survivors would not take any tossing away of seeds lightly, and therefore might consider a wank a sin. It's really the secondary charge, the sin of lust that exposes the wanker. This is the basis for Gen 38:8-10.

    Of Biblical law: if you think of adultery, you are guilty of adultery (to include perversions).

    As far as where the seeds should go, and where they shouldn't go, please see Matthew 13:3-8 & 18-23. There is subtle symbolism, enough to say that God doesn't like errant seeds.
  • Adam - In Reply on Leviticus 20 - 3 years ago
    I disagree. No where in the Bible does it say that 'destroying seed' is a sin. People commonly cite 1 scripture in Genesis 38:8-10 as support, but assume it means something other than what it says. God likely gave Onan a command to get Tamar pregnant and further the family line and when Onan disobeyed God (sin), He took his life. The sin was not obeying God's specific command to him, not the spilling of seed.

    If someone assumed spilling seed was a sin, then 100% of all men would be guilty of this whether intentional or not, and the same argument could be made for 100% of women too. Consider nocternal emissions which are uncontrollable- if what you claimed was true, you're claiming that a natural bodily function that God created is sin. So, you'd be accusing God of making bodies that automatically sin- that makes no sense. Why would God create something to commit sin against Himself? Also, you'd also be claim that any married couple who uses birth control or protection of any kind is a sin worthy of death. Are you guilty of this and do you deserve to die for your sin? Also, women naturally flush their eggs monthly- so is that also a form of spilling 'seed' as you interpret the scripture. God designed the body to naturally function that way, so you're claiming that either God's perfect design is actually flawed, or you're claiming that God wanted bodies to automatically sin against Him. Neither makes sense.

    Or is it possible you might have misinterpreted the scripture? That maybe Onan actually sinned because he disobeyed God for not getting Tamar pregnant? And that maybe it doesn't mean that 100% of all other people at 100% of the time are automatically sinning if they spill seed?

    I think the answer is clear, but do pray about it.

    Any form of lust is evil and a sin. I think that's a given. God bless.
  • Elijah shows after Rev 614 through Rev 612 just before the 6th trumpet - In Reply on Leviticus 20 - 3 years ago
    It's a sin to destroy your seed, and with lust in your heart.

    "Father Guido Sarducci" said it costs 25 cents each time, so be careful cause they add up. 25, 25, 25...
  • Richard in Christ - In Reply on Deuteronomy 7:3 - 3 years ago
    Also in the OT laws. Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13.
  • Chris - In Reply on Luke 16:23 - 3 years ago
    The matter of cremation or burial in the ground, remains the choice of the deceased (in His Will) or a loved one. I don't believe there is any particular instruction in what is the best or acceptable way of disposal of the deceased. In regard to Jewish practice, it has always been emtombment, as cremation (burning of the body) was done by the heathen. In 1 Samuel chapter 31, we read that at the death of Saul & his sons, the people of Jabeshgilead took their bodies & burned them. Or if punishment was given to those crimes that warranted it, then burning was required (e.g. Leviticus 20:14). Otherwise, the deceased always required their entombment.

    For reasons of cost of burial or request or a person's preference, cremation may be undertaken. At the resurrection, the Lord is well able to re-constitute the remains, whether cremains, or from the sea, or scattered. But it's always my preference for a burial as an honourable & meaningful way of dealing with a loved one.

    Tattoos: again we can appeal to the Old Testament. Leviticus 19:28 speaks of cutting of the flesh or printing marks on the body. Leviticus 21:5 gives a similar warning. These were given to Israel that they do not imitate the heathen in these practises, whether for the sake of idol worship or for the dead. As a holy people, Israel would do wickedly by this & punishment was certain. In the New Testament, the Apostle Paul reminds Christians, that our body is not ours to do what we like with, but belongs to God, being the Temple (the residence) of His Holy Spirit ( 1 Corinthians 6:19,20). So just as we need to take good care of both the outside & inside of our body, we must also take much care how we display ourselves before people. Does both our behaviour & appearance match that of godliness & in God's family? Romans 12:2 tells us not to conform ourselves to the world (i.e. if our minds are renewed so it will show in our outward display of Christ-likeness). Tattoos & fashion trends just don't cut it for me.
  • Mishael On Leviticus 2016 - In Reply on Leviticus 20:16 - 4 years ago
    This is from a Commentary on Google. It shows the seriousness of perversion. In most cases it's a death sentence.

    Keil and Delitzsch Biblical Commentary on the Old Testament:

    Whoever cursed father or mother was to be punished with death ( Leviticus 19:3); "His blood would be upon him." The CURSING of parents was a capital crime (see at Leviticus 17:4, and for the plural Exodus 22:1 and Genesis 4:10), which was to return upon the doer of it, according to Genesis 9:6. The same punishment was to be inflicted upon ADULTERY ( Leviticus 20:10, cf. Leviticus 18:20), carnal intercourse with a father's wife ( Leviticus 20:11, cf. Leviticus 18:7-8) or with a daughter-in-law ( Leviticus 20:12, cf. Leviticus 18:17), SODOMY ( Leviticus 20:13, cf. Leviticus 18:22), sexual intercourse with a mother and her daughter, in which case the punishment was to be heightened by the burning of the criminals when put to death ( Leviticus 20:14, cf. Leviticus 18:17), lying (mating) with a beast ( Leviticus 20:15, Leviticus 20:16, cf. Leviticus 18:23), sexual intercourse with a half-sister ( Leviticus 20:17, cf. Leviticus 18:9 and Leviticus 18:11), and lying with a menstruous woman ( Leviticus 20:18, cf. Leviticus 18:19). The punishment of death, which was to be inflicted in all these cases upon both the criminals, and also upon the beast that had been abused ( Leviticus 20:15, Leviticus 20:16), was to be by stoning, according to Leviticus 20:2, Leviticus 20:27, and Deuteronomy 22:21.; and by the burning ( Leviticus 20:14) we are not to understand death by fire, or burning alive, but, as we may clearly see from Joshua 7:15 and Joshua 7:25, burning the corpse after death. This was also the case in Leviticus 21:9 and Genesis 38:24.

    You can Google Book plus the scripture to read other Bible Commentaries.
  • Lise Carmen Verdon on Leviticus 20:16 - 4 years ago
    I do not understand clearly what this scripture means. I would like a response please.

    Thank you
  • Rob on Leviticus 20:10 - 4 years ago
    According to the law Adultery was punishable by death .

    So was murder of another .

    One reason as well the adulterous person was put to death it freed the innocent person to marry another qualified to marry .

    But in today's world they would call it murder . So the innocent person must remain single because of an unjust world , we can see as things are falling away the criminals seem to be getting more and more rights .

    Here is a question for you that think because we are under grace the laws do not apply ; so being under grace if you kill someone that's fine you are not under the law right ?

    Adultery and murder are quite close in degrees of sin , both punishable by death , according to Gods laws .
  • Johnny Martinez - In Reply on Leviticus 20:13 - 4 years ago
    It is NOT talking about child molesters. The scripture says they are BOTH committing an abomination. Why would God charge a child with sin, if it was against his will? It is talking about two men who both know what they are doing. And it is a sin
  • Bev - In Reply on Psalms 25 - 4 years ago
    Bible Verses About Homosexuality

    Genesis 19:1-11

    That evening the two angels came to the entrance of the city of Sodom. Lot was sitting there, and when he

    saw them, he stood up to meet them. Then he welcomed them and bowed with his face to the ground.

    "My lords," he said, "come to my home to wash your feet, and be my guests for the night. You may then

    get up early in the morning and be on your way again." "Oh no," they replied. "We'll just spend the night

    out here in the city square." But Lot insisted, so at last they went home with him. Lot prepared a feast for

    them, complete with fresh bread made without yeast, and they ate. But before they retired for the night, all

    the men of Sodom, young and old, came from all over the city and surrounded the house. They shouted to

    Lot, "Where are the men who came to spend the night with you? Bring them out to us so we can have sex

    with them!"

    So Lot stepped outside to talk to them, shutting the door behind him. "Please, my brothers," he begged,

    "don't do such a wicked thing. Look, I have two virgin daughters. Let me bring them out to you, and you

    can do with them as you wish. But please, leave these men alone, for they are my guests and are under my

    protection."

    "Stand back!" they shouted. "This fellow came to town as an outsider, and now he's acting like our judge!

    We'll treat you far worse than those other men!" And they lunged toward Lot to break down the door. But

    the two angels reached out, pulled Lot into the house, and bolted the door. Then they blinded all the men,

    young and old, who were at the door of the house, so they gave up trying to get inside.

    Leviticus 18:22

    "Do not practice homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman. It is a detestable sin."

    (NLT)

    Leviticus 20:13

    "If a man practices homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman, both men have

    committed a detestable act. They must both be put to death, for they are guilty of a capital offense."

    (NLT)

    Judges 19:16-24

    That evening an
  • Correction To The Godhead Comment on Leviticus 20:13 - 4 years ago
    The links on the Godhead comment did not work correctly. You'll have to read those out of your Bible.

    Mishael
  • Chris - In Reply on Leviticus 20:13 - 4 years ago
    Leviticus 18:22.
  • Mishael - In Reply on Leviticus 20:13 - 4 years ago
    Romans 1:26-27 (tap on this link)

    The whole Book of Romans describes our present day realities of what we see happening all around us.

    To choose to deny Gods existence shows that people are reprobate in their minds and hearts. Homosexuals where it says, "it's not meet", points to illness of their bodies.
  • Ruby F Mathis on Leviticus 20:13 - 4 years ago
    Is there a verse in the Bible that says, a man who lays with another man sickens me?
  • Bob Hilt - In Reply on Genesis 9 - 4 years ago
    Greg is totally right and here is more proof

    Leviticus 20:11 And the man that lieth with his father's wife hath uncovered his father's nakedness: both of them shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

    ...And the man that lieth with his father's wife hath uncovered his father's nakedness:...

    Looking at them naked? I do not think so...

    This would easily make sense of this was the step mom of Ham.

    This may or may not be true of step mom, it might actually have been his mother

    Leviticus 20:18 And if a man shall lie with a woman having her sickness, and shall uncover her nakedness; he hath discovered her fountain, and she hath uncovered the fountain of her blood: and both of them shall be cut off from among their people. (this shows you this is talking about intercourse as to time of the month for a woman)

    Leviticus 18:6 None of you shall approach to any that is near of kin to him, to uncover their nakedness: I am the LORD.

    Leviticus 18:7 The nakedness of thy father, or the nakedness of thy mother, shalt thou not uncover: she is thy mother; thou shalt not uncover her nakedness.

    Leviticus 18:8 The nakedness of thy father's wife shalt thou not uncover: it is thy father's nakedness.

    Leviticus 18:17 Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of a woman and her daughter, neither shalt thou take her son's daughter, or her daughter's daughter, to uncover her nakedness; for they are her near kinswomen: it is wickedness.
  • Natalie Hilliard - In Reply on Leviticus 20:13 - 4 years ago
    Has our country is being attacked by the demoms of Satan. Our we to just sit back and watch or stand up for jesus i stand for jesus. But how do we try and kmow the right way to address those against us.
  • Adam - In Reply on Leviticus 20:13 - 4 years ago
    Hello, yes, it means all homosexuality is a sin, evil, and unnatural and the punishment is death. Fortunately Jesus died to forgive all that all have an opportunity to go to heaven.
  • Nancy Wooten on Leviticus 20:13 - 4 years ago
    In Leviticus chapter 20 verse 13 it says if if a man lies with another man that it is an abomination and I believe that means homosexuals but other people are telling people that it means child molesters. Am I wrong is it not talking about homosexuals please tell me what it means.
  • Portia on Leviticus 20 - 4 years ago
    You're right. God has not changed in any way. But h sent His son to die, and to shed His blood for our sins. Jesus made the difference. All these things were written for our learning, though we will not literally, be stoned. Yet God's laws he in Leviticus is teaching us how we should live, today even. In your natural innate, God-given mind, you would not have sex with your sister or brother. His laws still stand in such things mentioned. We must discipline ourselves to achieve balance by bringing all our faculties and power under control. The Lord uses a disciplined mind to think clearly and understand His Word and present truth effectively to the world. Why be self-discipline? See 2 Timothy 2:15: Be diligent to approve yourself to God. Let us practice self-discipline. It will be obedience to God. Instead of doing what the people in the world do, we ought to be exposing their evil. Study God's word, ask for wisdom from above.
  • Chris - In Reply on Luke 17:28 - 4 years ago
    Ken, in answer to your questions:

    1. Luke 17:26-30 tells us in the last days before Jesus returns to Earth, things will go on as normal: just as they did in Lot's time. But all of a sudden God's Judgement will be poured out, as did happen to Sodom & Gomorrah, so the instruction to the Jews not to return back for their worldly goods (i.e. to preserve their lives).

    2. There are many references to homosexuality in both the Old & New Testaments. Some of these are: Leviticus 20:13 (& see other verses in this chapter about the detestable acts that God abhors; also Lev chap 18); Romans 1:24-28; 1 Corinthians 6:9; 1 Timothy 1:8-10.

    In reference to wearing of make-up: even though passages such as 1 Timothy 2:9,10 & 1 Pet 3:3,4 speak about the wearing of respectable, godly apparel & not about putting on of make-up, there are references to it that associate it with harlotry when beauty had to be enhanced to allure the men: 2 Kings 9:30, Jeremiah 4:30. Leviticus 19:28 speaks about printing marks & cutting of flesh which what Israel must not do (as the heathen did).


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