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Hello Mr Sebren

The Lord is also the God of the dead: Revelation 20, Philippians 2: 10 & 11, and Romans 14:9 > "For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living". "Might be" is now is! Now that's cleared, I offer sympathy if someone you cared about recently passed away

The following is my personal experience and my thoughts about what happened. Furthermore, I admit that I didn't want to answer your question because I knew it would draw out the haters. But I couldn't forget your question and now know that it's right to answer from a unique experience

I hadn't seen a dear aunty of mine for a long time due to being abroad. She was an older sister of my mother and was actually more of a good mother to me. She was suffering for a long time, but no closely related relatives told me when there was time because they're narcissistic. I found out very late about it when I phoned relatives overseas, but she was asleep. It was just before she passed away. So it was the most distressing grief I've ever been overwhelmed by

So, I cried to the Father God and told him how I missed her so much and never got the chance to say goodbye. Then when I was out walking on a sunny day, some time within 15 days of her passing, I suddenly sensed the presence of an angel who told me in the spirit that someone wants to speak to me! I'm glad I was given that bit of preparation, or else I would've closed up out of fear. A minute later, her spirit &soul appeared, asking me questions that she would've asked, but never got the chance before. I answered her questions while they walked with me. This lasted about 10 mins. Then 2 days later, they came back for a final brief visit, in my home, so she could see my lifestyle & for me to explain my circumstances to her

So it's possible but rare& only if God allows it for a brief time window (up to 15 days, maybe 30, of the death of a saved soul, escorted by an angel). I didn't ask for that, but u may

The Word of God is God ( John 1:1) and is not of any private interpretation ( 2 Peter 1:20).

The word 'Repent' in different forms (repent, repentance, repented, repentest, repenteth, repenting, repentings) is mentioned 110 times in the KJV, and means a lot more than what people by nature have been conditioned to believe. The word 'repent' used in the New Testament was translateed from the Greek word "metanoeo", and means to change, transform, to think differently or reconsider.

It is the key principle of all the teachings of Jesus Christ and the axiom (basis) of the Word of God and a prerequisite and primary requirement for the salvation of mankind. It actually means the changing of spirits - to turn from darkness to light and from the power of Satan unto God ( Acts 26:18).

For a better understanding and the 'spiritual truth' of what it means to repent, and learn how and by whom mankind has been deceived ( Rev. 12:9) and what people must do to be reunited with the true and living God, we invite you to seek Him according to the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive ( Matthew 7:7; John 14:17).

You need not that any man teach you ( Isaiah 54:13; 6:45; 1 John 2:27), as mankind follows after an image of a false god and a false Christ ( Matthew 24:24; Mark 13:22; Gal. 4:8; 2 Cor. 11:13-15; Rev. 12:9).

It is only by revelation of God that people will come to know the true Christ ( Daniel 12:4,9; Amos 3:7; Matthew 16:17; Luke 2:26; Romans 16:25; 1 Cor. 2:10; Gal. 1:16; Eph. 3:3,5; Rev. 1:1), and only then will you be able to overcome the spirit of this world ( 1 John 5:4; Rev. 3:21) and learn what 'True Repentance' means, and how this whole world has been deceived ( Rev. 12:9). It should also be remembered that it is a narrow way that leadeth unto 'Life', and few there be that find it ( Matthew 7:14).

LUKE 15:10. LIKEWISE, I SAY UNTO YOU, THERE IS JOY IN THE PRESENCE OF THE ANGELS OF GOD OVER ONE SINNER THAT REPENTETH

Acts 8:22

The Word of God is God ( John 1:1) and is not of any private interpretation ( 2 Peter 1:20).

The word 'Repent' means a lot more than what people by nature have been conditioned to believe. It is the key principle of all the teachings of Jesus Christ and the axiom (basis) of the Word of God and a prerequisite and primary requirement for the salvation of mankind. It actually means the changing of spirits - to turn from darkness to light and from the power of Satan unto God ( Acts 26:18).



For a better understanding and the 'spiritual truth' of what it means to repent, and learn how and by whom mankind has been deceived ( Rev. 12:9) and what people must do to be reunited with the true and living God, we invite you to seek Him according to the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive ( Matthew 7:7; John 14:17).

You need not that any man teach you ( Isaiah 54:13; 6:45; 1 John 2:27), as mankind follows after an image of a false god and a false Christ ( Matthew 24:24; Mark 13:22; Gal. 4:8; 2 Cor. 11:13-15; Rev. 12:9).

It is only by revelation of God that you will come to know the true Christ ( Daniel 12:4,9; Amos 3:7; Matthew 16:17; Luke 2:26; Romans 16:25; 1 Cor. 2:10; Gal. 1:16; Eph. 3:3,5; Rev. 1:1), and only then will you be able to overcome the spirit of this world ( 1 John 5:4; Rev. 3:21) and learn what it means to Repent and how this whole world has been deceived ( Rev. 12:9). It should also be remembered that it is a narrow way that leadeth unto 'Life', and few there be that find it ( Matthew 7:14).

LUKE 15:10. LIKEWISE, I SAY UNTO YOU, THERE IS JOY IN THE PRESENCE OF THE ANGELS OF GOD OVER ONE SINNER THAT REPENTETH

I was discharged on Wed. 8/06/20 with COVID 19 with Pneumonia of lungs.

I am requesting prayer as I am 84 and not very strong.

Glory to God in the Highest!

Thank yo

COVID 19, act of God or brought about by a Chinese leader that thinks He's God!

Our God is not a god of the dead,but of the living.

Do our loved ones who have passed away visit us?

Acts 3:19

The Word of God is God ( John 1:1) and is not of any private interpretation ( 2 Peter 1:20).

The word 'Repent' means a lot more than what people by nature have been conditioned to believe. It is the key principle of all the teachings of Jesus Christ and the axiom (basis) of the Word of God and a prerequisite and primary requirement for the salvation of mankind. It actually means the changing of spirits - to turn from darkness to light and from the power of Satan unto God ( Acts 26:18).



For a better understanding and the 'spiritual truth' of what it means to repent, and learn how and by whom mankind has been deceived ( Rev. 12:9) and what people must do to be reunited with the true and living God, we invite you to seek Him according to the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive ( Matthew 7:7; John 14:17).

You need not that any man teach you ( Isaiah 54:13; 6:45; 1 John 2:27), as mankind follows after an image of a false god and a false Christ ( Matthew 24:24; Mark 13:22; Gal. 4:8; 2 Cor. 11:13-15; Rev. 12:9).

It is only by revelation of God that you will come to know the true Christ ( Daniel 12:4,9; Amos 3:7; Matthew 16:17; Luke 2:26; Romans 16:25; 1 Cor. 2:10; Gal. 1:16; Eph. 3:3,5; Rev. 1:1), and only then will you be able to overcome the spirit of this world ( 1 John 5:4; Rev. 3:21) and learn what it means to Repent. It is a narrow way that leadeth unto 'Life', and few there be that find it ( Matthew 7:14).

LUKE 15:10. LIKEWISE, I SAY UNTO YOU, THERE IS JOY IN THE PRESENCE OF THE ANGELS OF GOD OVER ONE SINNER THAT REPENTETH

amen ...our Lord does not change.

Hallelujah....bless His Holy Name nothing has not change.....Jesus Christ is the same yesterday today and forevermore....Amen

Mark 6:12

And they went out, and preached that men should repent.

Luke 3:3

And he came into all the country about Jordan, preaching the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins;

Luke 3:8

Bring forth therefore fruits worthy of repentance, and begin not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, That God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.

Luke 5:32

I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

Luke 10:13

Woe unto thee, Chorazin! woe unto thee, Bethsaida! for if the mighty works had been done in Tyre and Sidon, which have been done in you, they had a great while ago repented, sitting in sackcloth and ashes.

Luke 11:32

The men of Nineveh shall rise up in the judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: for they repented at the preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a greater than Jonas is here. (Jesus)

Luke 13:3

I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

Luke 13:5

I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

Luke 15:7

I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance.

Luke 15:10

Likewise, I say unto you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner that repenteth.

Luke 16:30

And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.

Matthew 25

[The lamps are the Light of Jesus and the Oil is the Joy of the Holy Spirit.]

1 Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.

2 And five of them were WISE, and five were FOOLISH.

3 They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them:

4 But the WISE took oil in their vessels with their lamps.

5 While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.

6 And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.

7 Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.

8 And the FOOLISH said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.

9 But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.

10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.

11 Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.

12 But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.

13 Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.

This is something we have to maintain every day. We are charged to be ready for our Bridegroom; at all hours.

1 Corinthians 13:10. The decree in the scripture is that all things are made perfect in Christ the first fruit. Christ tells the church to wait, He's coming back. Who determined that His conditions and requirements for the church should change during the time he tells us to wait on His return. There is no other scriptural support to change the requirements and condition of the church during this period of Grace. Acts 2:38, 39. "for the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call." Mark 16:17, Acts 2:3-4, Acts 19:6. Speaking in tongues and baptism in Jesus name are still the requirements for salvation. When the Holy Ghost enters a person there is a reaction in the body from the anointing and rebirth process that causes the new born to cry out in tongues. Mark 16:17.

Luke 15:10.

For a better understanding what it means to repent we invite you to read the article 'Repent' on a world deceived.ca

1 Peter 3:3 Whose adorning let it NOT be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel; ( Its the word)

Luke 13:3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. -- Luke 15:19 And am no more worthy to be called thy son: make me as one of thy hired servants.

Luke 15 The son came home (repent means to turn be sorry for your sins ask for Gods forgiveness) Jesus isn't bringing his gift to the hog pen -- we must come home to him.

Luke 15:11 And he said, A certain man had two sons: (This is no parable, A CERTAIN man actually had 2 sons and this is what happened, if it were a parable he would have said so.)

Wanda, as you have no doubt read Isaiah from the first chapter, you would have read about the many things that God had accused Judah & Jerusalem about. Their idolatry, meaningless sacrifices, dependence on material wealth, sinning as Sodom did & many more: all these brought on the Anger of the Lord. And their women also became "haughty & behaved in an alluring way" & God would change all that & make them foul. And likewise, the men would suffer loss of life through battle & they together would all become desolate.

So the wearing of jewellery was synonymous to their demeanour which resembled those of the heathen, that which promoted their outward beauty rather than what was becoming of a woman of God (as Mishael well pointed out). The men of course, weren't into wearing jewellery, as it is done these days, but they would suffer under the hand of their enemies. Is then the wearing of jewellery wrong? We must each one decide this in the light of the Scriptures & what our intentions are for wearing them. Some Fellowships ban or strongly advocate against wearing of jewellery, yet some of those same women will present themselves quite differently outside the 'Christian circle'. We have to be convinced in our own hearts about this matter, maybe done for the enhancing our appearance without appearing ostentatious & taking away from a woman's inner beauty.

1 Timothy 2:9-10

In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array; but which becometh women professing godliness WITH good works.

Deuteronomy 22:5

The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are an abomination unto the LORD thy God.

We're not under the Law as Christians, but I would venture that other people make assumptions about you based on appearance. The key word is Modest.

Same goes for body piercings and tattoos. There's a danger of infections; illness from dirty equipment.

Isa. 3:16-24 talks about how God took the jewelry from the women, and never again said they could put it back on...what about the men, so men can wear jewelry but women cannot?

DWL, my apologies, I understood your question differently: a weakness in written expression. No, I don't believe that Jesus was deceitful in any way, shape or form. The fact that he He is God's Son & wanted to express Himself to the Father, particularly in these agonizing hours prior to His crucifixion, only serves to show His agony as a Man & One Who looked to His Father for comfort. Jesus is God come to us in the flesh & this is where you may be seeing and/or raising the conflict. So, would this be the focus of your enquiry: why does Jesus as God in the flesh, pray to (a) God in Heaven? Or, why should He pray at all, if He were God? Sorry, I can't appreciate the gist of your enquiry.

DWL You write Jesus was not God? I suggest you read 1 Timothy 3:16 "And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God (GOD) was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory."

Matthew 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. GOD WITH US.

Isaiah 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. This is why we use the king James

If you do not understand the differences between Father, Son and Holy Spirit I suggest a study on the Godhead.

Man was made in the image of God and man has a Body, Soul and Spirit which is 3 parts that make 1 man.

1 Thessalonians 5:23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Not the easier concept to grasp.

Chris - I know Jesus isn't deceitful, I asked if you believe Jesus is deceitful, he was praying to his Father (not himself-Jesus isn't God he is Gods only begotten Son) Matthew 26:39 And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as (I) will, but as (thou) wilt.

DWL. Is there something in that verse that causes you to believe that Jesus may have been deceitful in His prayer to the Father? I've read that passage many times over & fail to see where the deception or pretence lies. Maybe, the different content in each prayer, or maybe, Him praying the same prayer twice? I can't see it.

I do not know how my post ended up reading something other than what I typed. What I remember posting was that I don't believe that Jesus was being deceitful. If you cut out the entire Song of Solomon part, add in what I just said here, and begin at 1 Peter 2:22 to the end, that is what I remember typing. I'm not sure how that ended up there?

I don't believe so. 1 Peter 2:22, says, "Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth:" The word guile in the Greek text is the word Dolos, which means deceit. Jesus could never sin, nor could He ever be deceitful.

Do you think Jesus was deceitful, pretending to pray to his FATHER? Matthew 26:42

He went away again the second time, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if this cup may not pass away from me, except I drink it, thy will be done.

There are plenty scriptures to argue but most of us prefer not debate.

Matthew 22:32-33...7:15; Ezekiel 34:12

John 10:12, 8

Luke 15:4-7

1 Peter 2:5

People are sheep, or a goat. Jesus is THE SHEPHERD. He will know who is what.

There also are wolves in sheep's clothing and ravening wolves.

If the sheep are lost, we need to take them over to 1 John verses 5-10; particularly verse 9. Show them how to get all that mud and stickers out of their wool. Baby Christians need to learn to run to Jesus and pray verse 9. Lay it all out and admit everything. They learn to love clean and Light.

A new commandment 1 John 2:8-17

1 John 3:10 in this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness, is NOT of God (a goat); neither he that loveth not his brother.

Once I got to carry a "lamb" in intercessory prayer, for weeks. Someone desperately wanting to die. As soon as that person turned to God for help, I was released. If Jesus let's you carry a lamb you will never be the same person. Sheep, lamb, goat?

Luke 15 is only about the prodigal son,not a woman.

As the woman called her friends to rejoice with her upon finding the lost piece of silver, so God calls his angels round when one sinner repenteth.