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The Rapture - the raising of the Church into heaven ( 1 Thessalonians 4:17): is the next event on the prophetic calendar. The Rapture is when Christ comes back and takes every Christian that is still on this earth and resurrects all of those who have died and takes them to heaven with Him. In 1 Thessalonians 5:1-8, Paul expresses that the Lord's return will be like a thief in the night. No one knows the date or time. However, there are several signs of the End Times that we can all be aware of. Events such as earthquakes and diseases, war and dispute among nations, and persecution against Christians are all signs leading to the Rapture.

SCRIPTURES TO LOOK UP:

Matthew chapter 24: 1-46

1 Thessalonians 4:13-18; 5:2

Revelation 1:7, 3:10

1 Corinthians 15: 51-53

Mark 13:32

John 14:1-3

Luke 21: 34-36; 12:40

Acts 1: 9-11

2 Peter 3:10-13

Hebrews 9:28

Philippians 3:20

Colossians 3:2

Ezekiel 18:4. Revelation 21

The Rapture - the raising of the Church into heaven ( 1 Thessalonians 4:17): is the next event on the prophetic calendar. The Rapture is when Christ comes back and takes every Christian that is still on this earth and resurrects all of those who have died and takes them to heaven with Him. In 1 Thessalonians 5:1-8, Paul expresses that the Lord's return will be like a thief in the night. No one knows the date or time. However, there are several signs of the End Times that we can all be aware of. Events such as earthquakes and diseases, war and dispute among nations, and persecution against Christians are all signs leading to the Rapture.

SCRIPTURES TO LOOK UP:

Matthew chapter 24: 1-46

1 Thessalonians 4:13-18; 5:2

Revelation 1:7, 3:10

1 Corinthians 15: 51-53

Mark 13:32

John 14:1-3

Luke 21: 34-36; 12:40

Acts 1: 9-11

2 Peter 3:10-13

Hebrews 9:28

Philippians 3:20

Colossians 3:2

Ezekiel 18:4. Revelation 21

Luke 21 v 7 , 8

And they asked him , saying , Master , but when shall these things be ? And what sign will there be when these things shall come to pass ?

And He said Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name , saying I AM Christ ; and the time draweth near : go ye not therefore after them .

John 11 v 24 , 25 , 26 ,27

She saith unto him , Yea Lord I believe that thou art the Christ , the Son of God which should come into the world .

The Rapture - the raising of the Church into heaven ( 1 Thessalonians 4:17)-is the next event on the prophetic calendar. The Rapture is when Christ comes back and takes every Christian that is still on this earth and resurrects all of those who have died and takes them to heaven with Him. In 1 Thessalonians 5:1-8, Paul expresses that the Lord's return will be like a thief in the night. No one knows the date or time. However, there are several signs of the End Times that we can all be aware of. Events such as earthquakes and diseases, war and dispute among nations, and persecution against Christians are all signs leading to the Rapture.

SCRIPTURES TO LOOK UP:

Matthew chapter 24. 25: 1-46

1 Thessalonians 4:13-18; 5:2

Revelation 1:7, 3:10

1 Corinthians 15: 51-53

Mark 13:32

John 14:1-3

Luke 21: 34-36; 12:40

Acts 1: 9-11

2 Peter 3:10

Hebrews 9:28

Philippians 3:20

Colossians 3:2

Ezekiel 18:4

You can use the empty search box on the KJB website: type in 'Antichrist' and it will list other verses you should read.

Write them down so you can share with friends and family, you want to be in heaven with you.

A Pastor just said in a sermon, that watching the DVD named, The Passion: really shows how Christ suffered so we could be saved. God save you. Amen.

Mishael

Galatians 3:14

That the blessing of Abraham MIGHT COME ON THE GENTILES through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith."

Luke 21:24

24And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the (presently the elect) GENTILES BE FULFILLED.

25And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;

26Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

27And then shall they see the SON OF MAN COMING IN A CLOUD with power and great glory.

28And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

Comment by Mishael:

The Gentiles were grafted in, to become the Elect. The Jews were grafted OUT. Google "the Graft" scriptures.

The Jews are Spiritually blinded and deafened so they may not see or hear the Gospel of their Messiah Jesus Christ. They're certainly not going to believe God has divorced them.

WHEN the "catching away" of the Church occurs. Blind eyes and deaf Ears are going to be OPENED suddenly. The Jews will suddenly BE THE ELECT once again. They will know only the Messiah can do what has been done. They will have to cling to Jesus during the 2nd half of Redemption: Rapture to staging of Armageddon.

You must understand that even then; even after all the Miracles of Jesus preserving His Elect: some Jews will not relinquish their "control" over the power they have coveted for thousands of years.

Fix your eyes on Jesus on walk right into His arms. This is your Beloved; your Husband: who has fully forgiven you and grafted you into the Vine once more, eternally. The Lord of Glory. Come back now.

Mishael

We are not yet in the great tribulation, but look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh. ( Luke 21:28)

"This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth." ( 2 Timothy 3:1-7)

Remember Jesus' words: "These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world." ( John 16:33)

verse 24 .......TIMES of the Gentiles Be Fulfilled. 25 And there SHALL be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars, and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; 26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. 27 And then shall they see the SON OF MAN coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

Note: again JESUS makes it known to us HE is concern with our SALVATION plus HIS soon return to earth (see verse 28), so HE give us another notice /clear warning through 24-28 above.

Note: with TIME running out and 24-28 needing to quickly reach the whole world, so JEHOVAH /GOD sent us high-tech thereby quickly reaching the whole world so everybody gets notice /warning of SALVATION through JESUS, and HIS return.

Note: thees signs in 24-28 above are taking place before our eyes /ears every day and most humans do not see /hear them because where applicable most has allowed ourselves to be 110 % overwhelmed by cares of this world such as: earning money, no job, bills, 401K, health, hard-headed children, evictions, wrongs committed against us, ..., ...,

Note: we must not allow daily battles /war blind or discourage us from seeking and accepting SALVATION (see John 3:16-21 or similar verses for SALVATION through JESUS) thereby we avoid THE LAKE OF FIRE (see Rev: 20:15).

34 And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life and so that day come upon you unawares. 35 For as a snare SHALL it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth. 36 Watch ye therefore, and PRAY ALWAYS, THAT YE MAY BE ACCOUNTED WORTHY TO ESCAPE ALL THESE THINGS THAT SHALL COME TO PASS, and to stand before the SON OF MAN.

Luke 21:24

And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

I don't think we're there yet, but it was announced that a deal was made between the Palestinians and Israel. You can read JerusalemPost on the internet to see how this progresses.

Recently, Iran accidentally blew up part of their uranium enrichment operation. It was a huge explosion.

Now Lebanon has blown up a huge factory that killed a lot of people near to it. Their nation is rioting for their President to step down. Hundreds are homeless.

Let's be in prayer about "what these delays mean." Our own news media has barely covered anything except photos. There might be more on Youtube. I'll look later.

Tomy on John 6:1, Thank you! Blessings to you and your family!

To Tommy I love all your comments. God is love and all your comments represent

Gods love. Blessings my brother in Christ.

Matthew

Chapter 25

1 Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.

2 And five of them were wise, and five were foolish.

3 They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them:

4 But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.

5 While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.

6 And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.

7 Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.

8 And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.

9 But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.

10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.

11 Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.

12 But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.

13 Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.



You need to memorize this so YOU can tell other people. Matthew 25

Are we in the season for the LORD to call his bride up??

The 6th seal

Rev 6:14 US/Israel attacks Iran's nuclear facility in Trumps 2nd term. There will be a quiet.

Rev 6:12 brings an earthquake in Israel, opening them up for an easy invasion, then comes..............................

The 6th trumpet, day of the Lord, 2nd woe

Ez 38:1-17 America receives the "abomination of desolation" (Is 47, Joel 2:1-11, Rev 18), and Israel taken in the same hour, Luke 21:20-24.

The beast (Russian Confederacy) crushes 5th trumpet Babylon (US/allies) to dust, Rev 9:13-21.

The aftermath - Obadiah. So you see it was a family affair all along, Esau (Russia) mortally desolates Jacob (US/Israel) and God is mad.

This is anti-christ's rule, between the 6th and 7th trumpets. A world without America.

Joel 2:1-11 describes the 6th trumpet, day of the Lord strike on America/Mystery Babylon. How does a 2,700 year old prophet describe a smart missile attack so accurately? They don't break ranks, they climb up the wall and enter in at the windows like a thief. Jesus said he comes like a thief. All faces will be pained. There are 90 scriptures that describe this event known as "the abomination of desolation", set in America. Is 13, Is 24, Is 21, Ez 21, Ez 38:1-17, Jer 50/51, Rev 18. In the same hour America falls, Israel is invaded and taken captive ( Luke 21:20-24). This is prophesy. This is anti-Christ's rule.

Well, God went some distance to explain to us the timeline. In Daniel 9:24 seventy weeks (of years) are determined.... to accomplish about everything. But two things are specified for the first 69 weeks (69x7=483 years), 7 weeks for the building of the streets and walls and three score and two unto The Messiah the Prince. STARTING when??? Back to vs :24 -> From the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem... TO when??? -> Unto the Messiah the Prince. 69X7 years from Persian Commandment to free the Jews to go back to Jerusalem Until Jesus is crucified. 69 of the 70 weeks fulfilled 2000 years ago. That leaves one week. The key verse is Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week, And in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice...to cease and place the abomination of desolation. He is the antichrist. The covenant presumably is the seventy weeks for everything, looks like to restart the seventy weeks going to be some kind of 7 year treaty with "many" that includes Jews Building their temple and resumiing sacrifice like in the Old Testament. But he, the AC, breaks the treaty in the middle of the seven years. 42 months in Rev 11. Mt 24:15 ->When you see the Abomination of desolation spoken of by daniel standing in the HolyPlace Mt 24:21 ->Then shall be great tribulation. When will we see the Abom of Des? Dan 9:27 In the midst of the week...!!! What does the Abom of Des signify? The midpoint of the last 7 years and the beginning of The Great Tribulation for 3 1/2 years. Mt 24:29 ->>Immediately After the (3 1/2 year long) Tribulation, Jesus appears in the clouds as he collects the Christians from around the globe. So, the day and hour we don't know. But as Jesus' return nears, we have specific markers that tell us how long we have. "Except those days should be shortened there should no flesh be saved. But for the elects sake those days shall be shortened."

Yes indeed! That's correct and refreshing to here it. Thank you!

Has anyone considered "last" meaning literally "final"? This world, "system" has been here since the beginning when God created it. Our main focus should not be to figure out the length of "time on earth" left, but living to the fullness of potential and purpose that's pleasing to our heavenly Father. Jesus brought the Kingdom of God back to us to make it final. This is the true meaning of last.

Matthew 16:3

And in the morning, It will be foul weather to day: for the sky is red and lowring. O ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky; but can ye not discern the signs of the times?

Daniel 7:25

And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws:

Luke 21:25

And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;

Sorry for doing this twice. This site wiped out half of it. Have no idea where it went. It was a reply to the question about weathermen.

Weather prediction is not witchcraft. People have been forcasting since Jesus time on earth and he didn't say anything about that.

He did ask them why they are not able to recognize the signs of the times? Why were they seemingly uninformed about prophesies that were being fulfilled. Much like we are today. Life happens so fast that we barely have time for anything.

In the Daniel scripture it mentions daylight savings time. Most people don't like it; but it's good for sports games, etc. However animals & plants live by daylight hours.

Recently in the news it was said ALL the worlds calendars should be changed to ONE.

That last scripture covers forcasting on weather events: like hurricanes, tremors, dust storms, wet seasons, dry seasons, solar storms:

Also Space related events. There's a scripture on a star (asteroid?) Wormwood. There's been a warning by NASA of one traveling towards earth now. All this can be googled.

Our President has formed a new committee to address that issue. A protective Space Program. I hope it gets voted on in the House. Praise God.

Let's be more attentive to ALL the signs of the times. Amen.

To God is power,Jesus is love comment above.jesus said ,I have come in my father's name.if you see the son you see the father.Jesus said ,all power is been given to me.for there is no other name under heaven where by we must be saved.Do every thing in word and deed,do everything in the name of Jesus.we pray over the sick in that name.we bless our meals in that name.we suppose to baptize in that name,but a lot of us dont.we need to pray over everything in Jesus name.you see Jesus is the Father,He is the Son and He is the HolySpirit.because these three are One.

Verse 12 is where the elect are delivered up to death which is to say delivered up to Satan and when they are delivered up the Holy Spirit will speak through them and that is where the word is broadcast through the world. Not a hair will be harmed on the elect. When you hear what the elect say you might just realize that there has been a deception taking place where the world has been worshipping a man who was kicked out of heaven Rev. 12:7,8,9 who is the antichrist that claimed he was God when standing up in Jerusalem but is a false messiah who can bring lightning down from the sky in the sight of men For those who got caught up in the one world system, living life like the days of Noah with the mark in their mind and doing the work, mark in their hand having a happy life of prosperity, eating and drinking Turn away! Wait for the true Christ.

All ya here these days is the lord our god is good all the time. and god love's everybody if that is true why is there a hell for those that did not believe? where the worm dieth not and the fire is unquenchable. jesus said there are gonna be many on that judgment day saying lord i did this and that and i will say unto them depart from me i never knew you!! and there shall be gnashing of teeth and whaling. now when the lord says that watch them curse him out!!!

Lost 1, My response to you didn't attach to this thread, so am duplicating it here as well.

These verses have nothing to do with the Church. Jesus was speaking to His disciples about what it would be like in the days after He leaves for Heaven until the last days during the pouring out of God's Anger. Its immediate reference is to the Jews, as can be seen in verses 6, 12, 20, 21, 24. The Church is not in this picture, as also in Matthew 24 & Mark 13. However, in these chapters (discourses by Jesus), there is also reference to the coming Great Tribulation that will affect all the world, with the Anti-Christ impersonating Jesus & also the Wrath of God being poured upon all unbelievers. The apostle Paul in his letters then spoke about the Church's removal prior to the outpouring of God's Judgement, but this was not proclaimed in the Gospel, simply because the Christ's Church did not exist at that time.

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These verses have nothing to do with the Church. Jesus was speaking to His disciples about what it would be like in the days after He leaves for Heaven until the last days during the pouring out of God's Anger. Its immediate reference is to the Jews, as can be seen in verses 6, 12, 20, 21, 24. The Church is not in this picture, as also in Mt 24 & Mk 13. However, in these chapters (discourses by Jesus), there is also reference to the coming Great Tribulation that will affect all the world, with the Anti-Christ impersonating Jesus & also the Wrath of God being poured upon all unbelievers. The apostle Paul in his letters then spoke about the Church's removal prior to the outpouring of God's Judgement, but this was not proclaimed in the Gospel, simply because the Christ's Church did not exist at that time.

1 Thessalonians 4:16-18 & 5:2, 4

2nd Peter 3:12-14

For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

Comment: we are waiting for the fullness of the Gentiles to be completed. Be paitient and be LOOKING for Jesus.

Matthew 24 explains we're going to see and go through some: signs of the times.

We're seeing it now so don't think it's a long process.

someone asked for Luke 21:12 be explained;I think that verse 12 is a carry over from verse 11 where Jesus was describing events immediately preceding the end of the age.Verse 12 begins with,But before all these things.....I believe that verses 12 to 24 describes the period between the time of the discourse and future Tribulation Period.His Disciples would be arrested,persecuted,tried before religious and civil powers,and imprisoned.

,It could have felt like failure and tragedy to the Disciples,but GOD overruled it to make it a testimony for His glory.They did not have to prepare their defense in advance.In their hour of crisis they were not to worry about what to say,because GOD said:settle it in your minds not to meditate before hand how to answer,for I give you a mouth and wisdom, which none of your adversaries will be able to withstand or contradict.I believe that when that day if it ever appears in our Christian lives,we will stand fast in our faith and never deny,our belief in GOD,because He will give us what we will say.But as far as the rapture,verse 12 is not speaking of this.Read verses 6 thru 11 you will understand what verse 12 is saying.

Can someone explain vs 12 please because i thought we were going to be taken to heaven in the rapture?

Daniel's entire prophecy of the seventy sevens ( Daniel 9:20-27) is speaking of the nation of Israel. It is a time period in which God focuses His attention especially on Israel. The seventieth seven, the tribulation, must also be a time when God deals specifically with Israel. While this does not necessarily indicate that the church could not also be present, it does bring into question why the church would need to be on the earth during that time.

The primary Scripture passage on the rapture is 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18. It states that all living believers, along with all believers who have died, will meet the Lord Jesus in the air and will be with Him forever. The rapture is God's removing of His people from the earth. A few verses later, in 1 Thessalonians 5:9, Paul says, "For God did not appoint us to suffer wrath but to receive salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ." The book of Revelation, which deals primarily with the time period of the tribulation, is a prophetic message of how God will pour out His wrath upon the earth during the tribulation. It seems inconsistent for God to promise believers that they will not suffer wrath and then leave them on the earth to suffer through the wrath of the tribulation. The fact that God promises to deliver Christians from wrath shortly after promising to remove His people from the earth seems to link those two events together.

What settled the rapture question for me was Luke's recount of the same conversation about the end as Matthew 24. In Luke's account we get a few gems of wisdom added to the story, particularly this one:

Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

Luke 21:36 (KJV)

What many Christians don't understand is that many, many of those who identify as Christians will NOT be found worthy to escape! We all have to have oil in our lamps (The Holy Spirit) so that we do not miss the Bridegroom, a