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Anyone who studies scripture and concludes that the Son of man and antichrist are the same is very disturbed or under demonic deception. I pray to my heavenly Father, in Christ Jesus, asking God to have mercy on your soul and to heal you and save YOU according to His will. Amen Matthew 12:32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come. Matthew 13:37 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man Matthew 16:13 When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am? Matthew 18:11 For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost. Matthew 26:24 The Son of man goeth as it is written of him: but woe unto that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed! it had been good for that man if he had not been born. Luke 22:48 But Jesus said unto him, Judas, betrayest thou the Son of man with a kiss?

In order to clearly understand the purpose of the sword, we must first rightly divide the meaning and context of "turn the other cheek. God NEVER intended for us to be door mats or yard dogs to be kicked and slapped for someone else's entertainment. Rather, we are taught by God's Word that we are the righteousness of God through Jesus Christ. We are supposed to walk with power and authority.

I fully agree with both Mark and Kevin. Else why did Jesus rebuke Peter for his use of the sword? Still, I can also understand why Peter thought it was the right thing to do at the time. Paul helps US when he writes, The weapons of OUR warfare are not carnal...

We that are seeking the Lord with our whole heart and are trying to abide in him should always in his will.We know what his will is for us it's His word!We don't have to ask what to do or what we have.Fasting so we can hear the Lord when we get stuck and don't know what exactly he would have us to do but we know that Jesus has provided all that we need to accomplish what he wants us to do!

Colin. I believe that christ was setting examples for us. He is showing us how we are to live. Christ God can do anything, after all he is God the creator. Jesus Told us to pray the Lords prayer. That is a promise to God that we will live on earth as in heaven.

from 1 peter chapter 2 19 For this is thankworthy, if a man for conscience toward God endure grief, suffering wrongfully. 20 For what glory is it, if, when ye be buffeted for your faults, ye shall take it patiently? but if, when ye do well, and suffer for it, ye take it patiently, this is acceptable with God. 21 For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps: 22 Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth: 23 Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again when he suffered, he threatened not but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously: 24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed. 25 For ye were as sheep going astray but are now returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls.

I have myself always placed my will before the Lord 's but it has not done me any good. I have to work on that to see the glory of God.

This proves the fact that the belief of the trinity is incorrect. Each of the three are totally separate. Otherwise Christ would be praying to himself. Something that would create a mockery of Christianity. This also proves there is only one church that is true at this time.

It saddens me that Jesus was betrayed by Judas and all his disciples- Jesus was so alone in his quest How could a father give his only begotten son for our sins, I owe it to Jesus to be a good Christian and follow his scriptures by avoidance of sins

i like luke 22 :19 with all my heart

i like luke 22 :19 with all my heart

Luke chapter 22 .Every time I read this chapter , specially this season which is the most appropriate time, I realize how lonely and abandoned Jesus felt on the Mount Olives. He asked His disciples to stay awake and pray , but they could not. He begged His Father if He could spare Him this cup, but he was alone except the angel who came to pray with Him. The betrayal was not only by Judah, but by all the disciples that would not understand His agony and the drops of blood coming down with the sweat. We all betrayed Him that night, and yet He went onto that cross with the weight of our sins on His shoulders. He loved us always, when we were still sinners. And He freed us from all our sins on that cross and by His resurrection He won Satan and Eternal Death, and we came from death to life. Accepting His sacrifice makes us free from sins and we become citizens of Heaven. It makes us the bride waiting now for His coming to take us where He is , as He promised. What a great plan made for us by the Lord,before the beginning ,planning for the end. Thank you Father and Jesus. Amen.

I welcome this verse as one that should be individually interpreted in your walk with God. To me Jeshua chooses words that mean both- sell to buy this worldly item means just what He said. Times are coming that require what it signifies. But because of the ministry that espouses peace and good will, the last thing He wants to focus on is arming the apostles with physical weaponry. But with few words He also meant "That 's enough "-as in I don 't want to talk about it anymore. My take-away- Do what I say, defend yourselves in righteousness, keep my commandments. We currently live in a world that is frighteningly similar as to the one the apostles were walking into.

God looks for those who desires to be totally dependent on him instead of being dependant ourselves. God searches our hearts by the Holy Spirit who Jesus left as a teacher to guide us into the understanding and reality of the Kingdom of Heaven that was given to us by Jesus, Luke 22:29.

If you don 't love Jesus then who are you...?

It mean 's we should nt depart from the will of God .

I believe that JESUS wanted his disciple as well as us today to go further in praying as intercede for our love ones..and he knew that we are a nation that wants to avoid pain at all costs this is why, they are few intercessors most christian operate on a shallow lowest level of prayer but GOD wants to take us into a deeper level of intercession prayer that only a few ever experience deep, profoundly intercession is painful it involves staying before GOD when everyone else has gone away or alseep!

It is what it is and says what it says.

Oh how much the world has denial my LORD and Savior Jesus Christ The world is not the same towards or for Jesus Christ as they were twenty years 20 ago Facts Same sex marriage young lives are taken away crime is on the uprise teen mothers etc

40And when he was at the place, he said unto them, Pray that ye enter not into temptation.

41And he was withdrawn from them about a stone's cast, and kneeled down, and prayed,

42Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.

43And there appeared an angel unto him from heaven, strengthening him.

44And being in an agony he prayed more earnestly: and his sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down to the ground

The Price!

This is the most part that most people will always not understand even if their pasters define it to them. God help us.

@Ock

These were all meant by Our Lord Jesus Christ in Matthew 26:27-28 and Mark 14:22-24 based on the meaning of the BREAD and BLOOD in John 6:35:
"TAKE" this "COMING TO ME AND YOU SHALL NEVER HUNGER"... "DRINK" this "BELIEVING ON ME AND YOU SHALL NEVER THIRST"... now, the breaking of bread and the drinking in a cup in Luke 22:19-20 are for "REMEMBRANCE" of those He said.

SINCE: ALL THOSE who "HEARD" (the teaching of the GOSPEL) and were "BAPTIZED" (in the NAME of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost) in "ALL NATIONS" are now "SCATTERED" all over the world, THEREFORE: the only way to determine IF THE SPIRIT of the PASTOR or TEACHER or MINISTER is OF GOD, He MUST be among those who "OBSERVE all things WHATSOEVER" that Jesus Commanded. IF HE PREACH AND BAPTIZE the SAME way as, THEN: HE IS AMONG THE "SENT" to "PREACH" the "GOSPEL of the KINGDOM of HEAVEN".......OTHERWISE: ANOTHER SPIRIT HAS SENT HIM TO PREACH ANOTHER KINGDOM as it is written in 1- John 4:1, "Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world".

@Rosalina

I assume you are referring to the Last Supper ? Lets read what those present had to say about what Jesus said at the Last Supper.....

Matthew 26:27-28 He said, "All of you drink of this; FOR THIS IS MY BLOOD OF THE NEW COVENANT, WHICH IS BEING SHED FOR MANY UNTO THE FORGIVENESS OF SINS."
Mark 14:22-24, "Take; THIS IS MY BODY", and "THIS IS MY BLOOD OF THE NEW COVENANT, WHICH IS BEING SHED FOR MANY."
Luke 22:19-20, "THIS IS MY BODY, WHICH IS BEING GIVEN FOR YOU; DO THIS IN REMEMBRANCE OF ME", and "THIS CUP IS THE NEW COVENANT IN MY BLOOD, WHICH SHALL BE SHED FOR YOU."
I agree with you Rosalina that the bread and wine are symbolic for you in that, your church and minister have no Apostalic Authority (alredy discussed )and cannot perform Consecration. So yes, for you it would only be a symbol.

@Ock

"Breaking of bread and drinking" by Apostles and Disciples is ANOTHER topic from the one which I discussed from John 6 regarding the "spiritual bread and drink", which is, "to come to him and to believe on him" that was represented by the "material flesh and blood" of our Lord Jesus Christ.. The PURPOSE of the "breaking" of the unleavened bread as HE said was for "IN REMEMBRANCE OF ME" and the PURPOSE of "to drink" in a "CUP" also as HE said was for in remembrance of the "NEW TESTAMENT IN MY BLOOD" ( Luke 22:19-2). SINCE: the BREAD is "TO COME TO ME AND YOU SHALL NEVER HUNGER" and the BLOOD is "TO BELIEVE ON ME AND YOU SHALL NEVER THIRST" ( John 6:35) THEREFORE: What HE meant to say was, [Do the breaking of bread in remembrance of that "YOU WHO CAME TO ME, SHALL NEVER HUNGER"] and likewise [Do the drinking in a cup in remembrance of the new testament that "YOU WHO BELIEVED ON ME, SHALL NEVER THIRST"]

This is the hardest part in knowing who God is. Help me Lord.

This is a two fold message I believe. Jesus knew that the Gospel would become available one day, this is the real sword he was speaking of. Many of his parables have a prophetic message as well.

there is another message along with the one just posted.
as Jesus ordered to take up the fragments that filled the twelve baskets; the baskets was of for each apostle's life with Him to share with us. as each apostle had a different version but all truth that leads us to Christ and everlasting life.

Then (2000+ years ago) as now, only free men had/have the right to defend themselves (the right to self-defense).

Thank you for Bible on line. It is so very helpful.
Jesus did not tell us to give up our weapons. He said, we would need them to protect ourselves.

fits perfectly especially the red print