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Henry.

Luke 6:12-14

"And it came to pass in those days, that he went out into a mountain to pray, and continued all night in prayer to God.

And when it was day, he called unto him his disciples: and of them he chose twelve, whom also he named APOSTLES;"

Now let's see the definition of the word "apostle". It comes from the greek "apostole" which means mission and "apostolos" (engl. apostle) means missioner, one who is sent (by God) to missions(to preach Jesus to people and establish churches). So don't get confused by the name apostle, it is not a mysterious title, it is a specific service, it simply means missioner.

So apostle is a person who is selected by God to send him to missions, that is to send him to the world to preach Jesus and establish churches. The 12 were the only ones who were sent to missions? Of course not.Those were for the Jews only. Paul was an apostle too, to the nations. Titus 1:1 "Paul, a servant of God, and an APOSTLE of Jesus Christ, according to the faith of God's elect, and the acknowledging of the truth which is after godliness;"

Only Paul was an apostle to the nations? No not only him, all of his accompanions were, Barnabas, Luke, Timothy, Titus, Silas etc.

Also many others. Who established the church in Rome? In Collose? Not Paul, those churches were not established by Paul. Some other apostles(missioners) established those churches (although the Bible doesn't give any information about them). The 12 were the ones that lived with Jesus, the most formal ones, but there were many other who went and preached Jesus to the world and established churches. All those were not just disciples, they were apostles. Even in the following centuaries christians that went to all continents and preached the Gospel and established churches were apostles. As you said one of God's gifts to the church is the "apostle". Apostles never stopped existing in the church. Even today christians that perform that specific task are apostles.

Dear Lisa C, Jesus said in Luke 6:38 Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.

So, if you want financial blessings, live according to His will, which includes tithing your money, and He will give it back to you. You cannot out-give God. He will also give you spiritual treasures such as answered prayers, healings, and understanding of the Word that are far more blessed than monetary gain.

Hi Amy,

May I ask if what scripture you're referencing by "God says this is war" and how that reconciles with Luke 6:29?

God bless you.

Yes.

2 Corinthians 11:13

For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.

Mark 13:22

For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.

Matthew 24:24

For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

2 Peter 2:1

But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

Luke 6:13

And when it was day, he (Jesus) called unto him his disciples: and of them he chose twelve, whom also he named apostles;

2 Peter 2:1 - But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

John 1:51, Luke 24:51, Mark 16:19, Acts 1:2, Acts 1:9, = Jesus was taken up

There appears to be multiple men with that name: Luke 6:16, Acts 15:27,32, John 14:22, Matthew 13:55, Acts 9:11, Acts 15:22, Acts 1:13,

A guy also from Galilee = Acts 5:37,

Matthew 27:5, Matthew 27:4-10,

It's best to study, keep reading, keep studying

Dear Predestination,

I'm going to take John 15:26 first, and this is one that has been taken out of context to show that God predestines people to heaven or hell.

Jesus says, You have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: So people use this text as a text to show that predestination, that God chooses people to be saved, and that He chooses some to not be saved.



The problem is that the Greek word for chosen here, and please keep in mind that He's talking to his apostles, the final 11 or 12 that are with Him, and it's the same word used in Luke 6:13 that has a do with the Lord choosing the apostles from out of the disciples and that is what the text means in context.



He hasn't chosen them to be saved and leaving everybody else to be lost. He has chosen these apostles from out of His disciples. So these people were already His disciples but He made choices who would step up and become the apostles.

I am off to bed. I will look at the other verses and respond tomorrow.

Hello Boyet, this page has info that may be helpful to your studies:

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Many people here are happy to help answer any questions you have.

How to get in heaven

Dear "JOURNEE!" i will very gladly serve you with an answer. But do not understand correctly. Can't see it from Ecclesiastes 1 either. Can you try and word yourself a little differently please. God bless u and yours in Jesus name, love u in Christ. Luke 6:17-19

Dear "Cindy holman" i think so absolutely! Otherwise, we may live in a world filled with the love of God so that we will never remember the earthly. I miss my dear all the time. My hope is to meet them again in Jesus holy name.

God bless u and yours in Jesus name, love u in Christ. Luke 6:20-23

Hi dear Texsis, there is already a thread to follow here on this topic. Go there please. But in short, after His death, Jesus went to the realm of the dead and freed the prisoners who had gone before.

God bless u in Jesus name, love u in Christ. Luke 6:6-11

1Peter 2:12, I believe it refers to: 1John 3:13, Luke 6:22, John 15:18,

1Peter 4:3,4,5

Hopefully these are helpful

What I find noteworthy about the baptism debate is that some seem to work hard to avoid something while others work hard to follow God's commands. Which one is priority? Is it normal for a genuine Christ followers to do the very minimum, or is it more healthy for Christ followers to be excited about following ALL of God's commands without hesitation or excuse? What is the greater risk? To risk disobeying God or to risk potentially doing something extra to honor God?

Acts 2:38 ...Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ...

"Surely not me though, it doesn't say it in other verses..."

"every one of you"

"Not Christians though"

"every one of you"

"probably not me though"

"every one of you"

"because of [excuse] I can't though"

"every one of you"

"I'm sure there's some other verses I can cherry pick to get out of this, though..."

"every one of you"

"No thanks, I don't feel like it."

John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments."

Luke 6:46 - "And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?"

James 1:22 - "But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves."

If you're responding to News. Please stop watching news sources. Focus on the Good news, written within scripture: Psalms 37, Galatians 5:16,17,

If you would 1st please consider the way it makes you feel. As you stated "horrified" that's not of GOD. Galatians 5:22-25,

2nd please consider all around you. Is there peace, is there light, anything to be thankful for? Is searching out news also symbolic of wanting to "know" what's happening in the news" Genesis 2:17, Romans 16:19,

3rd consider why there's only bad, horrible, divisive news? Hebrews 6:8, Proverbs 22:5, Why do they report the one horrible thing or person & not the million good? Is it meant to trigger rage? Hebrews 12:1, Luke 6:43-45,

1John 2:16, Titus 1:15, 2Samuel 22:27, Psalms 18:26, 1John 3:3, 2Peter 3, James 3:17, James 1:27, Philippians 4:8, Romans 8,

1Corinthians 4:5,

The Word also says: Numbers 11:12, Jude 1,

Hopefully these are helpful & encouraging

I hope you will get other answers too.

I've understood it as watching dark things, allowing unholy images inside, instead turn away. Matthew 6:22-23,

Mark 9:47, Matthew 18:9, Luke 11:34-36, also seems to emphasise purity in what we see, choices. Mark 7:20-23, Matthew 20:15, it's used as harsh judgement, possibly seeing through judgemental eyes. Also Luke 6:42,

Hope this is helpful

I've understood it to be similar to Simon called Peter: Matthew 4:18, Matthew 10:2, different than Acts 8:9, & Luke, Acts 10:18, Acts 13:1, Acts 13:9, Acts 14:2, notice in Acts, the same book, there are multiple names referenced even a wind, Acts 27:14, Acts 27:8, Hebrews 11:18,

Matthew 1:6 Jesus called Christ, John 4:25, Luke 6:15, John 1:42, John 11:16, not Colossians 4:11,

Romans 2:17, Romans 7:3, same supposed writer as Acts , also Romans 9:26

Matthew 26:14, Luke 23:33, John 19:13, John 19:17, Acts 6:9, Revelation 11:8,

Revelation 12:9,

Luke 2:4, Luke 8:2, John 21:2, different than Acts 9:11,

Acts 1:23, Acts 9:36,

Colossians 3:15, 1John 3:1,

Hopefully these are all helpful in your study

In your gossiping of this woman I never heard you say that she is sleeping around with other men, especially 5 husbands? But made a commitment to 1. By your own admittance you said" Those others in the class know of her situation and are concerned also" is gossip. John 4:18 says she had 5 husbands-past tense and with another 1 presence. In John 4: I did not read where JESUS condemned the woman but said she spoke the truth. You feel you must bring whaling accusations and attention to this one seeking to study our LORD in your group ( Luke 6:42). This poor woman come to study the WORD of GOD and all you in the group are talking behind her back about something that is none of your business; between her, the man and GOD!

From much experience with that myself; you are called to be at peace. If the other person is non-Christian, they are reacting to Who's inside of you (Jesus). Forgive and then close that door. I prayed for the Lord to bring Christian friends into my life. He did!!! We went to church together and out for tacos after & more.

Don't over-analyze this too much. If the Lord allows it, then you have to Trust Jesus to close that door and open a new one.

Luke 6:22

Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.

2 Corinthians 6:17

Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,

Hebrews 12:14

Follow peace with ALL men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:

Proverbs Chapter 6

16 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:

17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,

18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,

19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

May the Lord help you put this behind you.

I would encourage anyone reading the Bible to do a study on perfection in a believer. We have all sinned and come short of the glory of God, but after we have been cleansed from sin (not just covered) we are to go on to perfection. Hebrews 6:1. Luke 6:40 states "The disciple is not above his master: but every one that is perfect shall be as his master". We are called to be like Christ.

Here are a few scriptures that really rattled me: Psalms 10:10, in context: Psalms 10, whole chapter.

* Leviticus 19:15, Amos 2:6-7, Amos 5:12, Amos 8:4, Habakkuk 3:14,

Scriptures about the poor: Exodus 22:25, Exodus 23:1-11, Leviticus 19:10, Leviticus 23:22, Deuteronomy 24:14,15,

Job 29:11-17, Job 30:25, Job 31:13-40, Job 34:19-28,

Leviticus 25:25-55, Deuteronomy 15:1-15,

1Samuel 2:7-8, Job 24, Matthew 19:21,

Psalms 9:18, Psalms 12:5, Psalms 14:6,

Galatians 2:10, Zechariah 7:10, Luke 14:12-14, may want to keep reading Luke 14,

Matthew 5:3, Luke 6:20,

Hopefully these are helpful

2 Corinthians 9:7 - Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a CHEERFUL giver.

Malachi 3:8-12 - Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings.

Malachi 3:10 - Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.

Matthew 6:1-4 - Take heed that ye do not your giving before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.

Matthew 23:23 - Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

Luke 6:38 - Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye give withal it shall be measured to you again.

Luke 11:42 - But woe unto you, Pharisees! for ye tithe mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass over judgment and the love of God: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

Luke 18:12 - I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess. [don't brag]

Acts 2:44-47 - And all that believed were together, and had all things common;

Acts 20:35 - I have shewed you all things, how that so labouring ye ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive.

1 Corinthians 16:2 - Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come. 2 Corinthians 8:1-24

Give to missionaries

Verse 27-This can be very hard to follow but in imitation of Christ we must work hard and pray to love our enemies.

Yes,

Matthew 4:24, Matthew 8:8-13, Matthew 8:16, Matthew 12:15, Matthew 12:22, Matthew 15:20, Matthew 19:2, Matthew 21:14, Mark 3:10, Luke 4:40, Luke 5:15, Luke 6:18, Luke 6:19, Psalms 147:3,

John 16:23, Luke 11,

Hopefully these help, comfort, direct & encourage you as you seek GOD & HIS healing

Separated: Exodus 33:16, Leviticus 20:24, Numbers 6:2, Numbers 16:9, Deuteronomy 10:8, 1Chronicles 23:13, 1Chronicles 25:1, Galatians 1:15,

Numbers 8:14, 1Kings 8:53, Jeremiah 1:5, Matthew 25:32-41, Luke 6:22, Acts 13:2, 2Corinthians 6:17, Hebrews 7:26, Matthew 22:1-14, 1Peter 2:9,

Romans 9:21-24,

Hopefully these are helpful

Dear Jacquie,

That's unfortunate you have to be in this situation. I am dealing with neighbors too presently and having a challenging time knowing how to be loving while also protecting myself.

Luke 6:35

Matthew 5:44

Luke 10:27

You might consider praying for them as it says in Matthew. Luke says God is kind to the unthankful and evil, and we should be too. I don't believe this means to be a doormat or allow ourselves to be unprotected or be taken advantage of, however. Jesus fled the Romans out of danger, for example (initially). Paul fled danger and people trying to do him harm many times.

Sometimes the imagination of someone's motives can be falsely attributed and is helpful to sort out what actually has happened that may be illegal or harmful that you have witnessed and try to separate from other feelings or assumptions. For example, it's possibly anyone's behavior might seem suspicious if they don't know what is really behind it. For example, a lady in my neighborhood acted like I was suspicious and she opened her window to warn me away, but I was not on her property but just looking over a fence at the end of the street. I didn't tell her that I saw a backyard BBQ fire that I was checking on that I thought could possibly have put everyone's lives in danger in that community. I didn't explain because I didn't want to give false alarm until I really knew if it was a threat and ended up being mostly smoke and died down. Sometimes it helps to give people the benefit of the doubt because we need it for ourselves too.

God bless.

It helps if you describe briefly what kind of warfare you're going through. It can be physical, mental or emotional or spirits.

I went through the whole list. With Jesus inside of you, "they" know their time is over. Satan will accuse that you are not saved! That hurts but is not the Truth. I tell everyone to write the date of salvation in your Bible. "It is written!"

LUKE 11:24-26

Christ sends the evil spirits away. But if we neglect feeding on the Bible frequently; building up our most holy faith..

The spirits may return: Luke 11:24-26 (the stronger man is Jesus 11:21). You must furnish yourself with Bible, Praise, and Assembling with the church folk)

A reading list for you:

Ephesians 6

* Acts 19:19

Galatians 3:13

Luke 6:28

Matthew 5:44

Ephesians 2:13

The angels are sent by God, so we can ask in prayer for their presence in our homes. Act on the promises of the Lord. God wants us to go on from being milk fed baby Christians, to stand up and be warriors of FAITH in ahi's Word.

Pulpit Commentary

Verse 2. - And certain of the Pharisees said unto them, Why do ye that which is not lawful to do on the sabbath days? It would seem that these Pharisees came from Jerusalem, and were no doubt privately commissioned to watch narrowly the acts of the new Teacher who was beginning to attract such general attention, and who already was openly setting at nought the numberless additions which the Jewish schools had added to the Law. Round the original "sabbath law" of Moses thirty-nine prohibitions had been laid down in the oral law; round these "thirty-nine" a vast number of smaller rules had grouped themselves. Amongst these greater and lesser sabbath restrictions were prohibitions against "reaping and threshing." Now, plucking ears of corn was defined to be a kind of "reaping," and rubbing the ears in the hands a kind of "threshing." "See," cried some of these spying Pharisees, "do thy disciples publicly break the sabbath, and dost thou not rebuke them?" The Lord's reply does not attempt to discuss what was and what was not lawful on the sabbath, but in broad terms he expounds the great doctrine respecting the significance, limits, and purpose of every law relating to outward acts, even in the event of that law having been given by God, which was not the case in the present alleged transgression. How rigidly the stricter Jews some fourteen or fifteen centuries later still kept these strained and exaggerated traditional sabbath-day restrictions, is shown in a curious anecdote of the famous Abarbanel, "when, in 1492, the Jews were expelled from Spain, and were forbidden to enter the city of Fez, lest they should cause a famine, they lived on grass; yet even in this state 'religiously avoided the violation of their sabbath by plucking the grass with their hands. To avoid this they took the much more laborious method of grovelling on their knees, and cropping it with their teeth!" Luke 6:2

Luke 6:2

Alex, this will be my last reply on the subject as I can perceive that you seem very rooted in your belief despite not sharing any scripture to support it. 1 Corinthians 3:16 refutes the claim that satan is inside everyone.

Lots of assumptions were made in the last reply and this time it included a strawman argument: "You being a Christian should know this." I hope this assumption is only an honest mistake and not intended to be manipulative. Your words appear to keep conflating sin with satan. Curse of Adam is a curse and isn't the same as satan being inside a person. Sin isn't the same as satan being inside a person. No where in the Bible does it say satan is in everyone. Christians have the holy spirit within, not satan, as 1 Corinthians 3:16 says.

Here's another verse that refutes it: Matthew 7:18. Someone with the holy spirit dwelling doesn't also have satan dwelling.

Satan probably wants people to believe he is in them though. I can see that playing into his hand and he is the father of all lies. Luke 6:45. Isaiah 5:20. God bless.

Giannis, You are welcome into our conversation anytime. Thanks for reminding me about the jailer and his household. i also remember that a Scripture says something like that the children of a believer are sanctified. (Not sure of the verse).

I think that the family especially is God's institution for growing His church. Believing parents who happily receive children from God into their lives increases the "body" of Christ by raising their children up in the faith. Of course, each child needs to come to salvation in the same way as everyone else by acting on the faith the Holy Spirit provides for them. But, as parents, we pray for our children to be "in Christ". And we have faith that this prayer is in God's will and that He will answer our prayers for the good of our children, who truly, come from Him, and are His.