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Hi Kenneth, thank you for visiting & writing in here. Yes, growing up in the world, or even in school, as a Christian is very difficult indeed. We have all sorts of temptations & pressures to conform to what the majority do and think & we know that is not what God has planned for His children. When I was 14 yrs old, I too could find no one at school who believed in God & Jesus as I was taught at home - fortunately, my family loved the Lord & brought me up to read the Bible & obey God's directions.

In your time of prayer, ask God to give you some good friends, especially someone who knows Jesus personally. And even with other friends, you can still be the Light that God needs to shine His Love to them - and God puts His Light in so many different places so that people might hear the Good News that Jesus saves us from sin's penalty. Yes, your friends will notice the difference in you & even if they think less of you, your genuine love & friendship for them will show them Who God is & what a true friendship is all about.

So be encouraged Kenneth, stay close to the Lord, read His Word often, & talk to Him when you feel alone or when you are misunderstood by those you care for. He will bless you & use you in special ways - ways that you may not even be conscious of. All that God asks of us His children, is to be His "salt & light" to the world ( Matthew 5:13, 14). But if you feel alone or want to ask a question or have a chat, we would be delighted to see you again. May the Lord bless you richly.

Nancy, that's a fair question. There are a couple of references to this:

a. Matthew 5:3. "poor in spirit". This refers to the condition of the heart rather than to not having wealth. It means to be humble, having a proper humble (not debasing) opinion of oneself. These folk have a 'spirit' that will be more attune to the Kingdom of God, recognizing that they are nothing before God & have nothing to present to God to try & elevate themselves. Unlike the 'rich in spirit' who are the opposite, trusting in themselves, their accomplishments, authority or power. These don't have the characteristics that would bring them close to God, trusting in themselves rather than God. These things (the Beatitudes) Jesus spoke to His disciples, as also in:

b. Luke 6:20. "Blessed be ye poor". Again speaking to His disciples, this word from Luke gives the sense that the disciples were ordinary folk, having left all to follow their Master. Some were already 'financially' poor as the fishermen, others like Matthew the publican may have had wealth. Whatever their financial state, the criteria for discipleship was leaving all worldly goods behind & learning from their Master. To have wealth & thus being blessed by God as the people were taught, usually meant that that would interfere with their singular focus on the objective: one 'cannot serve two masters', Jesus said. So Luke seems to imply that both poverty as well as mental humility are required for truly hearing & accepting Christ's message: that worldly possessions should not get in the way - that was the true blessing = happiness. And these messages were confined to the heart condition pre-Cross. After Jesus' death & resurrection, the Spirit changes one's heart, mind & perspective of life & worldly possessions.

And yes, you can give to the poor to meet their needs, but they, including those with money, still need to respond to the Gospel in humility & repentance to receive salvation & be a part of God's Kingdom.

kenneth 14 years old:i am so glad that that there are so many followers of god growing up in jesus christ is hard be cause when you go to school there is no one who believes what you do im glad there are more people out there like me who believe in jesus christ

Dear Brother Richard in Christ,

Happy Sabbath!

Yes, the sabbath was made for man, and it truly is a wonderful gift from God. Yes we can do good on this day.

Jesus showed us all of the wonderful things that could be performed on this special day! The scribes and Pharisees were always looking for ways to trip Jesus up with the Sabbath.

Luke 6:9-10

"Then said Jesus unto them, I will ask you one thing; Is it lawful on the sabbath days to do good, or to do evil? to save life, or to destroy it?" 10. And looking round about upon them all, he said unto the man, Stretch forth thy hand. And he did so: and his hand was restored whole as the other.

We can justify many things on the sabbath....but, ignore the sabbath, God forbid!

Apostle Paul below:

Romans 3:31

"Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law."

God Bless.

Verse 38-Jesus lived by this counsel of being generous. He taught us how we can be generous in various ways.

Mark 2:27

And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath.

Matthew 12:8

For the Son of man is LORD EVEN OF THE SABBATH DAY.

Mark 2:28

Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.

Luke 6:5

And he said unto them, That the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.

Clearly The Lord is saying that HE IS the Lord of the Sabbath. If you will scour the NEW TESTAMENT on the Sabbath, you will quickly see that Jesus not only healed people on the Sabbath; He preached to thousands on the Sabbath.

The Pharisees, Sadducees and scribes all banded together to destroy Jesus for it, too.

What kind of people call themselves Christian followers of Jesus and lead others to believe we Get To Debate which day of the week is the Sabbath?

How very hastily we walk the wide road into Apostacy. Or, loss of reward at The Bema Seat Judgement of Christ: where there will be rewards or loss of rewards?

Jesus says clearly that He alone is the Lord of the Sabbath. We follow Jesus; not what the world, or other religions teach.

Didn't Jesus pay enough for us to believe what he said and did?

Why don't we dig into the scriptures of what Apostacy is? I've never seen that one debated in here. It's about knowing the right things to do or just walking away from it altogether.

Don't email because this subject is closed, for me, for now.

Great reply brother. I don't find your examples strange at all. They are perfect. Just as you stated that there are countless things that go on in our everyday lives. That the Ten Commandments may not shed light on. As bringing up examples or "parables", just as Jesus did, helps people understand which way is the right way. It truly is a help to other people that may not understand things in the Bible.

One thing I wanted to share with you is last night it came to me to check a couple passages and put them to the Ten Commandments. In Mark 7:21-23 where Jesus is teaching about evil thoughts from within that "defile a person". The other is Galatians 5:19-23 where Paul states of the "works of the flesh" and "fruit if the Holy Spirit". With these two lists you can match up all the Ten Commandments. The seven of things to veer away from and the three things that God wants us to do. Just looking at those two list there is much more detailed information of things to repent from and things to seek after or focus on. Like you stated about many examples, there still are more things than just those written. Also just another guideline, to help us, from the Lord.

It is so true that we will be faced with things, in this life, that no person has spoken of. Or is written about. It is also true that not everyone is to be Blessed to receive the Holy Spirit in this life. As the Comforter and teacher for us from the Lord. I still believe God to be in all of us as He knows everything about everyone. It is truly a great treasure, and gift, to have the Spirit of Christ reside in us. A wonderful teaching, as all are, of Jesus Christ is Luke 6:27-38. Also the simple but "golden" rule of "Do unto others as you would want them to do to you."

Hope you have a great weekend Chris. God Bless my brother.

I very much agree with what you are portraying brother. What I feel is that the Ten Commandments are good a, simple, guideline for us. Of coarse we have all already sinned and come short of the glory of God. Romans 3:23. Jesus Christ is our one and only saviour sent by our Father. Even though we will still probably all make mistakes it seems good to me to have some good guidelines to at least go by in the evil world we live in. To make our Father happy as surely none of them are bad things or that we can't easily fulfill by just using a bit of self control. Still as I can say a parable where one would have to choose between disobeying a Commandment or following the Will of God. How we need the Holy Spirit gifted to us as our teacher. Just as you said though. Our Fathers love is so great in that He has already given the perfect sacrifice for all sins. Also as said it is all of a power not of my own. Something else that makes our Father happy is producing good fruit of the Holy Spirit. As I'm sure there are much better people in the world, than me, that have done many more good things. I take no credit for anything good I've ever done. I am forever thankful. Glory be to our Father.

As praying for everyone feels right. The people who do right and them that do wrong. As the Lord has taught me to love all. As in Luke 6:35 :"for He(our Father) is kind unto the unthankful and the evil." Praise the Lord Jesus Christ and our Perfect Father! God Bless you brother.

In Genesis 22 :7-8 Isaac askAbraham his father where is the lamb Abraham said my son God will provide HIMSELF A lamb

IN Exodus 12 God gives the times and the orders of the passover lamb (Jesus)

Look at Exodus 12 :2 God starts time over to the beginning this is prophecy if you will perceive it

My interpretation is God StartsTime over here so we would know that when the true final passover lamb Jesus comes Time will start over and it did

And look at the Fulfillment of God will provide HIMSELF a Lamb

John chapter 1 verse 29 Behold the lamb of God which taketh away the sins of the world God Brings is on lamb Jesus in to his own house 2chronicles 3:1 on the 10th day of Nissan And Inspected Him ( Luke 6:7)Till the 14th day and judged Him ( John 18:28)by the law and by the religion of the day And Pilate said I FIND NO FAULT IN THE MAN NO BLEMISH NO SIN Luke 23:1-3

And it is still the 14th Till 6 o'clock

And crucified Him Outside of God's house the city Jerusalem at evening 3 clock Exodus 12:6

Matthew 27:37 And set up over His Head His accusation written THIS IS JESUS THE KING OF THE JEWS (God's Name Tag on His LAMB) And ROSE UP 3 days later on the 17th day

Hebrews 9:12 Took His Own BLOOD and Entered in ONCE into The HOLY PLACE (THE THRONE OF GOD) having OBTAINED ETERNAL REDEMPTION for us

John 14:29 (Jesus said) And now I have told you BEFORE IT COMES to pass that WHEN IT IS COME TO PASS YE MIGHT BELIEVE

This may or may not help you it is a point of view that you may have already Studied

May God bless you and your family always

JACKIE

We are to PRAY WITHOUT CEASING.

1 Thessalonians 5:17

Pray without ceasing.

1 Thessalonians 5:25

Brethren, pray for us.

(Pray for our ministers that are teaching Gods Word, every day.)

Matthew 14:23

And when he had sent the multitudes away, he went up into a mountain apart TO PRAY: and when the evening was come, he was there alone.

Matthew 24:20

But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

Mark 13:33

Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is.

Luke 6:28

Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you.

Luke 18:1

And he spake a parable unto them to this end, that men ought always to pray, and not to faint;

>The reason it says pray that your flight be not on the sabbath, is because the Jews can't go over a certain distance. They wouldn't be able to flee to the mountains as another scripture tells us.

>If we are not living a prayerful lifestyle..we are just fooling ourselves on how spiritual we think ourselves to be. That is Not an accusation.

If you think that was unkind of me to say that, then go listen to some Charles Stanley sermons on a life of prayer, on YouTube. He teaches on tv every Sunday too.

Mishael

Hello my brothers and sisters. Hoping this is ok, here, as this is about prayer but not a prayer request. When prayer began to become part of my daily life. The our Father prayer was of coarse my foundation as it is a good, simple, prayer. As time went on it felt good to just add more details to the prayer to make it more personal, detailed, and unique. One thing that came to me was after looking up the definition of "us". As it states to be a plural form of "I" or "me" that, could, usually means more than one. But there's no real detail if you're saying the prayer for just yourself, or whose in your house, or what? The Lord said to me one night "pray for all". This was perfect. So as in the prayer lines like "give us, forgive us, or deliver us, etc" adding "all" after "us" felt great. The Lord Blessed me with this, as to pray for all people. As in the Word there are several sayings like Matthew 5:44, Luke 6:35, 2 Peter 3:9, along with many others showing Gods glorious mercy and love for everyone. It may be hard to see it at the point in life you are in, life's not easy, but He's with you. As I just felt to share with this with you all. In that it may help in any way.

I'm sure we all have our own relationship with God and Christ. It truly is special when we are intimate with our Perfect Father. Producing good fruit with His will. God Bless you all my brothers and sisters, in the name of Jesus Christ our Lord.

Great question! I was just thinking about those recently & I realized a deeper thought about them. He said these things before HE actually lived them out as example, before HIS crucifixion.

Mathew 5:1-48

Luke 6:17-49

Mathew 26:67

Mark 15:16-20

Luke 23:34

When we sow seed towards the work of God(Kingdom work). When we sow it not only in faith but in obedience to God's word. Expecting God to get the glory out of our seed. We can expect for God to multiply our seed and give it back unto us in a greater measure.

Olivia, I believe you're referring to a comment initiated by Maryann a couple of months ago. If that is the case, I was addressing the matter of non-violence & non-retaliation, as prescribed in God's Word. Take time to read the following Scriptures: Matthew 5:38-44; Luke 6:27-38; and Romans 12:14-21.

So, these portions of Scripture tell us how Christians are to behave or respond when trouble comes our way. However, we should do all in our power to protect ourselves, our children & our property from wicked perpetrators. But what the Bible teaches is that we must not go on the attack, or repay evil with evil, or in any way do what Christ would not do. The only ones empowered by God to pronounce judgement & give out a penalty is the government. Often even they don't administer it correctly, but that is another matter.

Maybe your question is: "then how can we protect ourselves?" Are we talking about the authorities under instruction from an anti-Christian govt. coming to take you & your children because of your faith? Then I doubt neither you nor I could do much at all given their position & strength. We need to submit & trust God for the outcome. Or else, what would be your plans to oppose them? Using a gun? How far would that get you against the police or army?

But if you're thinking of a criminal breaking into your house or accosting you on the street, then you are authorized by law to protect yourself, but restricted by the amount of force used. Then again, how does one know what crime is intended to be committed? Does any of this help you, or have I missed your point?

Sometimes it seems the things that God commands of us are impossible (like loving your enemy), but He wants us to trust Him (without faith it is impossible to please God) to do the impossible. We shouldn't avoid malicious, evil people; we should count it all joy that we have an opportunity to do what God has called us to do. We understand that God is in control and He will fight our battles; vengeance is mine says the Lord! We must do what He tells us to do and then we will get HIS reward. When we act according to the flesh them we will get OUR reward according to the flesh.

It good...nice way too forgive people. i just havent gotten too it yet because i dont like thinking about malicious evil people.

"Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you".We must conceive of the words, Luke 6:27 and Luke 6:28, as having been pronounced with some kind of enthusiasm.These precepts overflow with Love.You have only to meet every manisfestation of hatred with a fresh manisfestation of love. Romans 12:21 and Romans 5:8-10 KJV.

You are so blessed to find this miracle.

I love movie: The Shack: there's a scene where God and this man he's helping are hiking through a forest. God shows him that he needs to forgive the man who murdered his daughter.

The man is sitting there trying to crush a ladybug in his hand, and God leans in and says: its about taking your hands off his neck. The man considers this and slowly opens his hand and lets the ladybug fly away.

It's a beautiful movie about forgiveness. How we blame God for the bad things that happen to us; and how we blame ourselves mercilessly.

It's a theme of Love. God will use your testimony to help others to get free.

I have finally figured out why we are commanded to do this; because it helps us to forgive. Have you ever noticed that when you pray for someone, you feel love for that person, even if you don't know that person? When we pray for those who have hurt us, or continually hurt us, it's not so their hearts will be changed--although I often pray for that. It's not so they will stop hurting us--although I often pray for that. It's so that the love that we automatically feel for people when we pray for them will heal our hearts and help us to forgive. Sometimes we forgive but the hurt and resentment is still there--praying for the person who hurt you helps your heart heal from the pain.

Pray these scriptures out loud, until you know them by heart.

Luke 6:18

as well as those who were tormented with unclean spirits. And they were healed.

Luke 9:11

But when the multitudes knew it, they followed Him; and He received them and spoke to them about the kingdom of God, and healed those who had need of healing.

John 8:36

If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.

Acts 5:16

Also a multitude gathered from the surrounding cities to Jerusalem, bringing sick people and those who were tormented by unclean spirits, and they were all healed.

Romans 8:11

But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you.

Romans 8:2

For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

2 Corinthians 4:10-11

always carrying about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life of Jesus also may be manifested in our body. For we who live are always delivered to death for Jesus' sake, that the life of Jesus also may be manifested in our mortal flesh.

Philippians 4:7

And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.

James 5:13-15

Is anyone among you suffering? Let him pray. Is anyone cheerful? Let him sing psalms. Is anyone among you sick? Let him call for the elders of the church, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord. And the prayer of faith will save the sick, and the Lord will raise him up. And if he has committed sins, he will be forgiven.

1 Thessalonians 5:23

Now may the God of peace Himself sanctify you completely; and may your whole spirit, soul, and body be preserved blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

2 Timothy 1:7

For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

Geraldine Cole

You are correct. Adam was put in charge of the Garden. The spreading of sin to all of mankind has resulted from the inability of Adam to uphold the Law of God and resist what Satan was offering him.

Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: Romans 5:12

Eve, however, was also there. In fact, Eve was the first person to accept Satan's proposal, look at Genesis 3:6.

Both Adam AND Eve received punishment for what happened in the Garden, look at Genesis 3:16.

The transgression that took place in the Garden of Eden had nothing to do with a piece of fruit. Both Adam and Eve were wholly seduced by Satan.

After the act took place:

Eve's punishment concerned child birth.

Satan's punishment concerned the separation of "seed" from the woman ( Genesis 3:15).

Eve found Satan to be "desirable" and "pleasant to the eyes" ( Genesis 3:6, 2 Corinthians 11:3). The punishment by our heavenly Father upon Eve, (and all of womankind) included her desire to now be focused upon her "husband, and he shall rule over thee" Genesis 3:16.

A few minutes of research into Scripture and a Bible Concordance will likely bring this topic into better light.

A man should not blame a woman for a mistake he made. Neither should a woman blame a man for a mistake she made.

It seems like nobody is doing their job anymore, male or female. How far ahead would mankind be if we took responsibility for our actions!!!

Luke 6:42

Hello James,

I would just like to share what I have learned about Mark 10:17-18. The word good in Verses 17 and 18 is a special word. It is the word AGATHOS. There is another Greek word for the word good, and that word is KALOS. All throughout the bible, the word good is used. But if we just see it in English, we tend to attach one meaning to that word because we don't realize that there are different Greek words for our English word good, and that they have different meanings. You see, we only come away with one meaning for the word good in our English bibles.

But when I go to the original text, the word AGATHOS is used in both Verses 17 and 18. Jesus is going to say why did you all me AGATHOS? There is only one who is AGATHOS and that is God. Why did you call me AGATHOS? Do you realize what you just called me? You called me God. Why did you do that?

He is bringing it to this rich man's attention.

For the longest time I didn't understand these verses. I thought I was a good person, and I knew several good people. And then I read this and it was sort of like letting air out of the tire. I also wondered how others would look at themselves as not being good at all, and how it would make them feel about themselves. But then I learned what was really taking place in these two verses and it made perfect sense. There are good people (KALOS). But no one is good (AGATHOS) but God.

That is what I've come to learn. This man was referring to Jesus as God, because only God is good (AGATHOS). And Jesus was quick to point out to the rich man that he called him the good that can only be applied to God, which would make Jesus equal to God. But did you notice that Jesus never denied it?

In Luke 6:45, Jesus said a "A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good;" This tells me that a person can be good, and there are good people, but never AGATHOS! Anyways, I just wanted to share this with you.

very good chapter luke chapter six :) :)

James 2:17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.

James 2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

James 2:20 View whole chapter | See verse in context

James 2:20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead

Luke 6:46 Jesus said why call me Lord Lord and DO NOT the things which I say --

2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God.

Luke 6:29: "& unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek, offer also the other; & him that taketh away thy cloak, forbid not to take thy coat also". When Jesus spoke those words, He showed the example of love and non-retaliation that we as believers need to exhibit to those who despise us.This is a great testimony of the love of Christ that no man can speak against. It IS hard to perform, especially in a culture where the opposite is the norm, but we are called to live on a higher plane. You are right: to pray for them ( Mt 5:44), to speak gently to them ( Prov 15:1), & give them space to reflect & maybe reconcile ( Mt 5:24). And to "offer your coat" meant that one would be cold in the Winter.

This scripture is miss used as much or more than any other in the bible. ( Luke 6:37)

1 Corinthians 6:2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters



1 Corinthians 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.



Ephesians 5:5 For this ye (know), that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.

Revelation 21:8 and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Some have asked what the New Testament says about judging others, etc.
Matthew 7:1
Luke 6:37
John 7:24
1 Corinthians 4:5
Concerning unforgiveness, whether in the past or the present: If we don't forgive others, God will not listen to our prayers.
It's not a feeling. It's an act of obedience no matter how others hurt us. Some of need to forgive ourselves. That was hardest fo me to learn. A really great DVD to watch on the subject, is The Shack. Might find it at Walmart. I had to watch it 28 times.

Did Jesus select his disciples prior to his all night pray with God on the mountainside or had He chosen them and was praying for God's devine blessing? Does the bible describe anywhere any of Jesus' requests of God or only that He was seeking His blessing and loved communicating with his Father?

Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that DOETH the will of my Father which is in heaven
Luke 6:46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and (do not) the things which I say?
James 2:20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? verse 22,23, 24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
If you will read the book of James it will help.

I too have been in similar situation and I came to realize that the closer I walked with God and My Savior Jesus Christ the more adversaries I gained. Psalm 23, Deuteronomy 20:4 & 31:6, Isaiah 41:10, Matthew 5:43-48. You may find it difficult at first; however, pray for your enemies. Romans 12:14 and 12:20, Luke 6:27 & 12:14. I prayed and my enemies became my footstool. God and My Savior Jesus Christ stepped in and peace restored. I watched from the sidelines as my enemies stumbled and were caught in the traps they laid for me. Praise God and My Savior Jesus Christ forever, faithfully do I follow where Christ leads me. Praises to God and My Savior Jesus Christ the head of my life forever.