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No Wayne thats not what i said Jesus told Nic. a JEW he had to be bornagain to enter the kingdom, God SO LOVED THE WORLD NOT JUST Israel, Jesus said the field was the world where th GOOD SEED will be sown meaning humanity is gonna be bornagain by his seed, THATS Y THERE IS NO MORE JEW OR GENTILE ALL MEN MUST BE BORNAGAIN, NOW ITS THE BABES AND SUCKLINGS,TH ISRAEL OF GOD,CHILDREN OF PROMISE

Alex; I don't want you to think I'm picking on you; but rather that I speak to you as a brother who understands maybe better than you think. Learning the Scriptures and feeding on the Word is wonderful, and much to be praised. But it actually does take time and trial to bring forth a vessel fit for the Master's use. Consider what I'm trying to tell you as good advice from the Lord: stay teachable!

Wayne, Thank you. That's simply false! "I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid..God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew." Just now He hides His face from them because they have deeply revolted from Him. Christians are GRAFTED INTO the Commonwealth of Israel and are permitted and welcomed because of Jesus' shed blood on the cross. The gifts and calling of God are eternal!

There are those, as Alex has stated, that believe christians, and Christianity, have replaced and disposed the Jews as Gods chosen people. That the Promises given to the Jews are no longer in effect. That the Lord has turned his back on Israel. That parts of the book of Revelation will not be fulfilled because the Jews are not now "in the picture", so to speak.

Hi Wayne; Sorry to interrupt in the conversation; but what is, "replacement theology?"

That corruptible seed of Adam made us all corruptible but the seed of Christ is gonna make us all INCORRUPTIBLE THATS Y WE MUST BE BORNAGAIN OF AN INCORRUPTIBLE SEED which is the new covenant which is Replacement theology. The seed of abraham was good but not perfect, NOT THE PROMISE SEED, ITS ONLY THE H.G. that is the seed of Promise MEANING THE SEED OF CHRIST A NEW INNERMAN REPLACING THE OLD MAN

Yes Wayne i am for replacement theology When jesus told Nic.a JEW he had to be borngain it was replacement theology, We must birth a new innerman the Israel of GOD, THE H.G. a heavenly man which is born by his seed tHE WORD that new creature. We all cARRY THE STAIN AND THE SPOT OF ADAM. AS WE HAVE BORNE THE IMAGE OF THE EARTHY WE MUST ALSO BEAR THE IMAGE OF THE HEAVENLY WHICH REPLACES THE OLD MAN

Wayne; Moses was charged by God to come up into the Mount that was all on fire and smoke by the glory of God's presence to receive the Commandments written by the Finger of God on Tablets of Stone. The rest of the Congregation was not permitted to approach under penalty of death. Jesus the Mediator and Redeemer brings us with holy fear and dread into the Glory and Presence of God for Eternal Life.

Alex, are u for replacement theology or not? Couldn't tell by yor statement.

Vv 34 and 35, a cloud came over them and as they entered the cloud, fearfully, a voice came out of the cloud saying, "This is my beloved Son, hear ye Him".

IMO about replacement theology, there arose a reasoning which of them wd be the greatest then Jesus took a child and set him within them and said whosoever receives one such child in my NAME RECEIVES ME which answers to HIS SEED ( His Name ) that are NOT born of flesh or blood nor of the will of man but by the will of God which are the babes and sucklings a baby Christ born in us. TH Israel OF GOD

Sandy (cont.); How about the innumerable people who really were good but didn't know Jesus or the Bible? How about those who were cruelly slain from their mother's womb? How about all the countless people like Lazarus who only had evil in this life? In Luke 9:54-56 Jesus shows us a lot about His generosity of forgiveness even on those who for now don't receive Him. Let's leave the judgment to God.

Verse 2: Jesus sent his disciples forth to preach a message of God's Kingdom. That same message should be preached by Christ's followers today.

Again, in verse 35, God attests to Jesus as His Son that we should hear and obey Him. When we hearken to this entreaty, we should not look back. Forward ever with Jesus, backward never. For "No man, having put his hand to the plough, and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God."

Lk.9:62 - Jesus said this because He knew if we 'go back' (to whatever) BEFORE committing to him - we will be caught up in the past and it will pull us from Him. Right at the beginning, before following Him, if we tell family, friends, as a general rule they will talk us out of it because we are as yet too weak to be committed. The Lord knows this, He's not stupid.

Lk.9:23 - This is my favorite of these3 gospel vs. - because here Lk. 'specifies' - daily. 'Daily is understood in the other 2, but Lk. brings it out so that to new Bible readers His light is shone on it. Matt. and Mk. didn't 'miss' this word daily; the Word of God is how He gave it to them. His reasons are sacrosanct; we are not to question them.

If we follow Jesus as he urged some to, we follow him for his Word. John and Peter heard the voice of God on the mount of transformation and didn't know what to make of it just as in Exodus. God proves those who take up this mantle. Jesus steadfastly faces his fate. Those who follow Jesus will have no other priority, not family, friends or fortune. The story of Jesus is the Word he has left.

Lk. 9:58 - To use just this verse to someone in witnessing and not follow it up with - Lk. 12:31; Matt. 6:33 - is not good. To one who doesn't know the Word of God, but is hungry, we are leaving them - 'as is'. They haven't been 'fed'. We need to lift up the seekers.

(22-26) This is not our rest! As Jesus walked in this world, so are we to follow in His steps; and not expect to be any better treated than our Master. As much as the Spirit of Jesus is in us, and we walk in truth, so much also will the same kind of wicked men reject and persecute us.

Steph: not sure what you're saying?maybe.?But: without the Virgin Birth or The Resurrection, there is no Salvation or Truth.

Jesus taught the truth to anyone who would listen. To me it doesn't matter if he was virgin born or resurrected but his words are true.

In verses 10 and 11 Jesus even made time for others when he wanted quiet time. He could have been irritated, but Jesus received them kindly instead of making them feel they were a bother.

Vivian, amen! For Jesus said in Luke 9:23, "And he said unto them, if anyman will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me". Glory be to God in the highest through our Lord and savior Jesus Christ.

Anyone who studies scripture and concludes that the Son of man and antichrist are the same is very disturbed or under demonic deception. I pray to my heavenly Father, in Christ Jesus, asking God to have mercy on your soul and to heal you and save YOU according to His will. Amen Matthew 12:32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come. Matthew 13:37 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man Matthew 16:13 When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am? Matthew 18:11 For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost. Matthew 26:24 The Son of man goeth as it is written of him: but woe unto that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed! it had been good for that man if he had not been born. Luke 22:48 But Jesus said unto him, Judas, betrayest thou the Son of man with a kiss?

Verse 54, James and John were asking for war and death. Jesus rebuked them for they still would not embrace the Law of God, do not kill. They think killing for righteous cause is accepted by God. It is not. Their spirit should be peaceful without hate. The Son of man, Antichrist comes in the name of Peace to save his followers by participating in war and killing and hate.

I THINK THIS VERSE IS SAYING TO FOLLOW JESUS YOU MUST PICK UP YOUR CROSS, EVERY THING THAT JESUS ACCOMPLISH ON THE CROSS IS YOUR CROSS,

Luke 9:49.This episode is written by luke,perhaps because he might have heard from some people speaking about a man not essentially a close follower of neither jesus nor his diciples but he was able to does miracles on the name of Jesus. John did not mention either his name nor where did he see that man.The essence of mention of this verse is simply to tell to the whole world,one need not be a close diciple of Jesus but even one complete believes in Jesus and trusts him,any body can make miracles and preach the word of truth.luke simply wanted to make it clear to the Jews that,christ no necessarly belongs to Jews alone but to the entire man kind. but any how,bible pandits,Theologians,Interpreters,scholars are not very clear about thia verse and always tries to evade the explanation of this verse.Like wise there are many more episodes are there in bible which are kept under dark and not explained properly.Bible need to be recasted entirely with a logical,rational outlook. The concept of this verse is the as per in Jesus words " The one who believe with out seeing,is better than the one who believe on seeing".In other words " believe blidly" thats what it amounts to.

GOD GAVE US POWER TO DEFEATE ALL DEVIL AND TO CURE ALL DESEASES ,LAY HANDS ON SICK BODIES AND SPEAK WITH YOUR POWER AND YOUR AUTHORITIES,THEY MUST BE HEAL ,YOU SEE GOD HAS NOT GIVEN US THE SPIRIT OF FEAR BUT OF POWER AND OF A SOUND MIND ,WHEN GOD CHOSE YOU HE GAVE YOU THE WEOPON OF POWER SO USE WHAT HE GAVE YOU KJV THE ORIGINAL BIBLE STICK WITH IT.

I read the Scripture I believe God heals wife, wife need help

praise the lord the kjv is the best translation it has no copyright and best word for word translation majority of churches do not use this bible anymore that is why most churches are apostate