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Malachi 4:2,3

You that fear my name - The persons mentioned in the sixteenth verse of the preceding chapter, ye that look for redemption through the Messiah.

The Sun of righteousness - The Lord Jesus, the promised Messiah; the Hope of Israel.

With healing in his wings - As the sun, by the rays of light and heat, revives, cheers, and fructifies the whole creation, giving, through God, light and life everywhere; so Jesus Christ, by the influences of his grace and Spirit, shall quicken, awaken, enlighten, warm, invigorate heal, purify, and refine every soul that believes in him, and, by his wings or rays, diffuse these blessings from one end of heaven to another; everywhere invigorating the seeds of righteousness, and withering and drying up the seeds of sin. The rays of this Sun are the truths of his Gospel, and the influences of his Spirit. And at present these are universally diffused.

And ye shall go forth - Ye who believe on his name shall go forth out of Jerusalem when the Romans shall come up against it. After Cestius Gallus had blockaded the city for some days, he suddenly raised the siege. The Christians who were then in it, knowing, by seeing Jerusalem encompassed with armies, that the day of its destruction was come, when their Lord commanded them to flee into the mountains, took this opportunity to escape from Jerusalem, and go to Pella, in Coelesyria; so that no Christian life fell in the siege and destruction of this city.

But these words are of more general application and meaning; "ye shall go forth" in all the occupations of life, but particularly in the means of grace; and: -

Grow up as calves of the stall - Full of health, of life, and spirits; satisfied and happy.

Adam Clark

Hello Postmyers:

There is only one Gospel and that is the Lord Jesus Christ is God. I have no idea what those people you mentioned because I tend to Listen to God and God alone. I humbly say successful peace and joy are feelings I have within. My life experiences can also attest to it. Despite illnesses, God gives me joy and hope whether I live long or be taken away. The entire Bible is a magnificent Book-Old and New Testament. The best God ever given to human to know the real deal what really happened-History, Geography, Mathematics, Science, Economics, Political Science, English Literature, etc. If I were the King of the day, I will build a school with the foundation ONLY based on pure KJV Bible. Now I can say that in retrospect after going through all my highest educational experiences. I know we have been dumb down by men, but I am so very happy we have a God that is greater than man. I will leave you with Malachi 4:2-3 But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall. And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the LORD of hosts. Peace to you and Glory to God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

There are two sciences: regular science and religious science.

One just uses our God-given perceptions to observe, measure, quantify, analyze, and is doesn't feel threatened by other input and adjusting and correcting.

The other is a religion based on false assumptions and hopes/desires of what they want to be true, then they try to build a bridge to that. For instance, they are desperate to believe that God doesn't exist, so every tiniest, most irrelevant scrap of info they consider as "evidence" towards their confirmation bias. They get very insecure and threatened by questions and other input that doesn't support their pre-desired conclusion. Example: if its a pharma product experiment that doesn't support the product, its considered failed and will try again until it seems like it "works." If its explaining the universe, it must not contain any supernatural forces from intelligence, otherwise its a failed experiment. If it doesn't directly support evolution, then it must not be a valid experiment. Conclusions already drawn ahead of time, refusing other explanations, refusing data, isn't science, it's a false religion in effort to fill their void of not believing in God.

So, a scientist claims we have "millions" of years- that sounds like a religious belief. There are plenty of scientist believers who would disagree. The religious bullies lie and claim they are all in total 100% consensus. Not true. Very divided.

Please don't listen to scientist they are false teachers. They don't know how long is left. Only the Lord God Himself knows. He will come as if a thief in the night. So always be spirituality ready for Him.

Dear "Linda Harris", it became a little inexplicable this Postmyers567 is right. A little less answer to you will be. Jesus will return and then we will join Him home to the heavenly dwellings. Based on Paul's words, it will come a rapture! For Paul believed that Jesus would come before Paul laid down his flesh. And so did all the disciples! (smiles). So you see it's easy and go away in thoughts and deeds. Read and learn from the Holy Spirit. Get your own learning. Then you will understand everything in the right order.

They are not wrong the others who have answered either, just look at it from a different angle at a different time. We are all like gems, dear people that Jesus loves, and that we are obliged to love. To fulfill the law.

God bless you and yours, in the name of Jesus, love you in Christ. Stay strong in the word of God. Its the Life og Jesus.

Luke 10:1-12

All old testament prophecy's are fulfilled in Christ as Jesus stated.. Lu 24:44 (KJV) And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.

the great tribulation your referring to happened already in 70 A.D. The destruction of Jerusalem. which Jesus predicted..

Mt 24:1 (KJV) And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple.

Mt 24:2 (KJV) And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.

Jesus also said there will never be another time like that..... Mt 24:21 (KJV) For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

Malachi 4:5-6 is a clear reference to John the Baptist

Mal 4:5 (KJV) Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:

Mal 4:6 (KJV) And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.

Lu 1:16 (KJV) And many of the children of Israel shall he turn to the Lord their God.

Lu 1:17 (KJV) And he shall go before him in the spirit and power of Elias, to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just; to make ready a people prepared for the Lord.

Reply to Postmyers 567: Elijah has yet to come to preach in the tribulation as predicted by Malachi.

Malachi 4 is speaking of Christs first coming and the destruction of jerusalem which are connected together...its a remarkable chapter...

verse 1

For, Behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven - The destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans in 70 A.D.

And all the proud - This is in reference to Mal 3:15 of the preceding chapter.

The day that cometh shall burn them up - Either by famine, by sword, or by captivity. All those rebels shall be destroyed.

It shall leave them neither root nor branch - A proverbial expression for total destruction. Neither man nor child shall escape.

verse 5

Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet - This is meant alone of John the Baptist, as we learn from Lu 1:17, in whose spirit and power he came.

There are three remarkable predictions in this chapter: -

1. The advent of John Baptist, in the spirit and authority of Elijah.

2. The manifestation of Christ in the flesh, under the emblem of the Sun of righteousness. verse 2

3. The final destruction of Jerusalem, represented under the emblem of a burning oven, consuming every thing cast into it.

These three prophecies, relating to the most important facts that have ever taken place in the history of the world, announced here nearly four hundred years before their occurrence, have been most circumstantially fulfilled.

Dear Sir:

I just finished the last book of the Old Testament. Malachi is an interesting book. You know what I dont quite understand when the bible talks about the Earth will dissolve away and the Sun will refuse to shine. Does this mean that the Earth and the Sun will melt like a straw in the furnis. The scientist say we have a million years left. Could this be the rapture where all the good are taken and the rest are left? Like Noahs ark? Noah only needed what he needed.

Matthew 17:5 While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.

Who and why are they called the two witnesses?

Lord Jesus took Peter, James and John to a high mountain and He was transfigured before them and then Moses and Elijah was talking with Him ( Mat 17:3). These two witnesses had to see the Lord Jesus physically on the earth so when they return to the earth, they will testify about Him ( Rev 11:7) and turn the heart of the fathers to the children and the heart of the children to the father ( Malachi 4:5-6) in the first half of the tribulation period when they will appear on the holy mount. They all witnessed the voice of the heavenly Father speaking to them, that this is my beloved Son in whom I am well pleased and listen to Him.

These two were the ones who were given the power for the fire to come down, ( 2Kings 1:10) stop the rain, ( 1Kings 17:1) turn the water into blood. ( Exodus 7:20) They are the two candlesticks having the olive branches by their side emptying the golden oil out of themselves for they are the two anointed ones that stand by the Lord Jesus ( Zech 4:11-14) to testify about Him and restore all things as Jesus said. ( Mat 17:11)



Many say that Enoch and Elijah will come again.

They were taken up to heaven and will come back again and then be killed and after three and a half, Spirit of life from God will enter them and then go to heaven. Well in the time of Jesus many died and rose from the dead again, Mary's brother Lazarus ( John 11:43) the widow's son who rose from the coffin, ( Luke 7:15) Dorcas ( Acts 9:40) and the daughter of the synagogue ruler, ( Mark 5:42) yet they also had a second death in their old age. For then Moses and Elijah will die again and be resurrected again for the Spirit of life will enter them and they will go to heaven. ( Rev 11:11-12)

Well; I am fairly safe to assume based on the end of Malachi that Elijah will come before the "great and dreadful day of the Lord" ( Malachi 4:5). In John the Baptist; Jesus stated that he had come which signifies a type of ministry of repentance in the same spirit; as it were. One could rely on Hebrews 9:27 in stating that man is destined to once die then face the Judgment to say that the only other person translated and missing death was Enoch. Hence; the other witness to come and die in the end times.

There are disputes apparently in the angelic realm about the burial of Moses as seen in the Book of Jude. It seems clear; however that he was buried by God; being told DIRECTLY that he would die there just short of physically entering into the land of Promise.

He did talk as the other member present during the Transfiguration; but there is no scriptural proof that somehow Moses escaped death. Others are seen; such as John the Revelator who Jesus merely said "if he is to remain alive until I come what is that to you" ( John 21:22 loosely translated).

In any case; I hope this doesn't end up being a contentious debate. The power given by God to these witnesses will attempt to be mimiced by the False Prophet bringing "fire down from heaven" and also the mark of God's people in Rev. 7 on the 144,000 and undoubtably protecting the 2 Prophets will also be copied with the Beast's mark. Signs and wonders will truly be present; there will be no atheists and lukewarm believers at last.

Agape. Rich P

Hello Edith. Revelation 1:16 is but one verse within the whole Book of the Revelation given to the Apostle John, to record what he sees ( Revelation 1:19). And what the risen Lord Jesus revealed to him in this verse was a part of how Jesus appeared to him (vv 13-16).

In verse 16, John saw seven stars in Jesus' right Hand. We understand that these stars represented the angels (possibly, the leaders) of the seven Churches (the golden candlesticks) in Asia Minor (Turkey): v 20. These were real assemblies of believers in those seven cities & were precious to the Lord, as is indicated by His position amongst them & having them close to Him (in His right Hand). Yet, as we read in the following chapters, not all of them were pure in His Sight & they would be judged & disciplined. Yet the Lord would persevere with them (as He does with us when we go astray) as He also did with Israel, when the promise was given them, "Thou shalt also be a crown of glory in the hand of the LORD, and a royal diadem in the hand of thy God." ( Isaiah 62:3).

John also saw a sharp two-edged sword proceeding from Jesus' Mouth. This is the primary weapon that Jesus uses to subdue His enemies (maybe at that great final battle). We know that the sword is often used to denote the Word of God ( Ephesians 6:17; Hebrews 4:12; Revelation 19:13). And God's Word is Truth - it is pure, it cuts & divides, it converts, it blesses. No enemy, both now & in that final day, will be able to withstand God's Truth. Where they once rejected it, even rejecting God's Word made flesh, they will feel the keenness of the 'blade' & will fall, succumbing to the power of that Word. Even Satan flees when God's Word is brought to bear upon him.

And Jesus' countenance appeared to John as the midday Sun in its zenith. One can imagine John turning away from such Brightness. As we read in Malachi 4:2, "the Sun of righteousness" arises to heal those who fear Him, but will also burn the chaff into ashes of those who do wickedly.

The Kingdom of God "In our midst"

Part 1 of ?

We know there are many prophesies in the old testament of Jesus reigning and sitting on David's Throne.

Today I want to discuss a great misrepresentation of this truth starting with two of many scriptures in the old testament then we'll go into the New Testament.

1) "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this. Is 9:6-7.'

2) Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:

Malachi 4:5.

Here's the same promise given to Mary in Luke 1:32-33.

In those days When a king would go out to another country to seize it, or peacefully he would send ahead his messenger/fore runner. They didn't come by surprise. ( They came with observation ) "Keep that in mind "

John the baptist was Jesus fore runner.

Mark 1:2-3.

Matthew 11:13-14.

Israel was expecting a forerunner and king that was to come and rid them of the Romans and sit on David's Throne.

John the baptist was sent ahead to announce The King, Jesus was bringing in a heavenly kingdom not one you can observe, It wasn't going to be a March to battle. That's why Jesus said it come without observation in. They rejected their King due to blindness under the mosaic system.

Please see part 2.

Re the pretrib contentions nowadays. I have a controversy with this for when a young Christian I was reproved of beloved *FATHER GOD* for some aggression in my walk. I was so moved, ashamed & repentant to think I was bruising others after experiencing much bruising attitudes and sad handling of situations through life till 52 years old when I finally confronted my Mother. "Mum, I have always though you did not like me." An immediate response was. " Edwin, how could you say such a thing!" "Well, thats the way Ive always felt." I answered. Again her quick answer was. "I can prove you were a wanted child, as I wanted 7 boys and you were number 5." Then as though conviction came upon her, she bowed her head saying. "OH Ed, I am sorry, I did neglect you." Resulting in her humbly accompanying me to Church of CHRIST NZ Mt Roskill, and her returning to her early Christianity. At death she said: "I said to GOD. I must be the proudest woman alive."Then with a grin. "I think *HE* said. "Dont be proud Jean, you are not." Loved that ! Brought up as atheists. Our *FATHER GOD* with infinite understanding foreseeing my response to the aggression reproof gave me three vivid dreams, clearly memorable to this day.

1/ We lived next to a catholic famly and a great wind storm came from the east to the west and I was blown horizontal, on our side holding onto a post of the fence between our two properties while all sorts of objects flew past me.

2/ A group of people complete with backpacks waiting on the northern grass siding of the Riverhead Road. Dad approached me from across the road. I noted his bright eyed face. Sparks fell around us as we lifted heavenward. Malachi 4:3. Rev 6:11. *GODS*wrathful DAYafter sifting tribulations.

3/ I was sitting in a round craft above the earth, two beings looking over the edge and one said to the other."Theres another one." As I looked to my right in the distance I could see the city of GOD bordered with a rainbow. Matt 24:31, Mark 13:27 GBU.

This chapter is sobering; in that the congregation is being challenged in verse 1 as to what is being spoken and judged. This would certainly indite those who were in the leadership in the O.T. system; but certainly could allude to the church today. The reward of the wicked is certainly without mincing of words here; verse 3 through 5 shows the intransigence; again even with those who would be "charmers" as it were; perhaps trying to woo them back to the truth with Godly wisdom. The analogy of breaking their teeth in verse 6 is certainly not isolated to this passage; we see psalms 3:7 and a passage in Job along with others with similar sentiments.

They are said to melt away ;in verse 8; and to be taken away in a whirlwind in verse 9. Again the comment in verse 10 is similar to that of the ashes of the wicked ( Malachi 4:3). Finally; men shall see the justice of God toward the righteous through such judment in the last verse.

We need to consider well the results of Korah's rebellion; and that of others who were among the exiles from Egypt in particular who knew of God's glory firsthand but chose to reject it for foreign gods with some delusion that comforts of this world that they left behind in Egypt would somehow be found. Judgment certainly is greater for those who know the truth; but reject it; better they never knew the truth according to Peter ( 2 Peter 2:21). A change of heart surely must occur to truly be saved; a heart of flesh instead of stone (Ezekeil 36:26).

When Christ described the Holy Spirit it was said to do remind us of 3 things; sin; righteousness and JUDGMENT. ( John 16:8-11). When we look to the meek such as Moses and the humble such as David; we observe a man who spoke with God "face to face" ( Exodus 33:11). David was a man "after God's own heart"( 1 Sam. 13:14; etal). Moses made the mistake of trying to enact justice himself when he killed the man who was beating a fellow Israelite; and had to wait another 40 years to be used by God for the purposes intended in His plan from the beginning to deliver His people from bondage. David mourned Saul's death of "God's anointed" ( 1 Chron. 16:22). Despite this; he had many "impreccatory" prayers in Psalms indicating his hatred for evil; and asking for judgment to take place on the wicked.

In these passages; we see the principles also in the New Testament; that the "meek shall inherit the earth." ( Matthew 5:5). We must remember that God also promises that according to Malachi 4:3 His people will "tread down the ashes of the wicked." His saints also will rule with a rod of iron according to Rev. 2:26-27; and other verses in Psalms (which I can't find at present).

There is a risk of going to either extreme as will all other scriptures; where we become either too "lovey dovey" in approaching God and only quoting verses that sound nice; or of course always preaching about judgment. The truth is; God is both a God of vengeance and a God of mercy and grace. Yes; He will tread the winepress alone ( Isaiah 63:3); but there are special places of authority for His children in the Kingdom of God "ruling over cities" for instance in Luke 19. David himself apparently will co-reign on earth with Christ someday and us as kings and priests ( Jeremiah 30:9; Rev. 1:6 and others). Then; our real enemy; Satan will be confined; and eventually death itself will be abolished according to 1 Corinthians 15:55 and also mentioned in Hosea.

Search the scriptures. Agape.. Rich P.

Kenneth,

In Matthew 11:14, when Jesus was speaking about John the Baptist, Jesus said that John the Baptist was Elijah who was to come. Jesus is referring to Malachi 4:5 that tells us that Elijah will come before Messiah comes, and Elijah will be the forerunner to the Messiah.

However, we have a problem here because in John Chapter 1, when the leadership sent people out to ask John, "Are you the Messiah?" John said, "No!" "Are you the prophet?" which by the way is also a term for the Messiah. Again, John said no. "Are you Elijah?" He said no again.



So he is John the Baptist, but he is not Elijah. But Jesus said this is Elijah who was to come. So either John didn't know who he was, or he was confused or something? Even in Matthew Chapter 17 in the Transfiguration, when they came down off the hill, the disciples understood what Jesus said about John the Baptist, that John the Baptist was Elijah. But John said he isn't.

So was he Elijah or not? The answer to that is found in Luke 1:17, when the angel came to announce to Zacharias that his wife Elizabeth was going to give birth, which would be John the Baptist. And he said that he (John) will come in the spirit and power of the Elijah, the "spirit and power" of Elijah. John the Baptist is going to have the same ministry as Elijah. He is not going to be Elijah personally, but he has the same ministry as Elijah.

Therefore, that settles our dilemma about John. He says no, I'm not Elijah, I'm John. However, the Spirit's anointing upon him was that he came in the spirit and power of Elijah. The same spirit that had anointed Elijah was the same spirit that anointed John.

Hope this helps!

Marke,

The two witnesses are the 144,000 sealed saints from both houses of Israel.

I challenge you to prove that they are not one and the same.

On the other hand, Malachi 4:5 is one person, in the order of Elijah, with a separate mission from the saints.

Revelation 10

Is that you Elijah?

vs 1 The angel with his right foot on the sea, and left foot on the earth is Jesus (mirroring the 2 beasts inRevelation 13, rising from sea & earth).

Revelation 10:5-6And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven, 6 Andswareby him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer:

vs 5-6 are paradoxical because Jesus says all creation is from God, where Christian's are sworn to saying that Jesus created all. The dichotomy. John 10:30

vs 7 We are reminded that God has plans to end this age at the 7th trumpet.

vs 8 Jesus gives the prophet the little book, the Word of God (Bible) to eat.

vs 9-10 Since it's sweet in his mouth, then bitter in his belly, it must be before the 6th trumpet, day of the Lord, and the terrible judgment to come.

Revelation 10:11And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings.

vs 11 This is a GREATEST prophet, Mat 11:11, whom we were promised. This introduces Elijah's ministry, before the day of the Lord. Elijah is to preach the word of God, salvation, on the backdrop of the day of the Lord, Malachi 4:5

Revelation 10

Is that you Elijah?

vs 1 The angel with his right foot on the sea, and left foot on the earth is Jesus (mirroring the 2 beasts in Revelation 13, rising from sea & earth).

vs 5-6 are paradoxical because Jesus says all creation comes from God, where we Christian's are sworn to saying that Jesus created all, John 10:30

Revelation 10:5-6 And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven, 6 And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer:

vs 7 We are reminded that God has plans to end this age at the 7th trumpet.

vs 8 Jesus gives the prophet the little book, the Word of God (Bible).

vs 9-10 Since it's sweet in his mouth, then bitter in his belly, it must be before the 6th trumpet, day of the Lord, when life drastically changes.

Revelation 10:11 And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings.

vs 11 These aren't saints, but 1 person. This must be describing Elijah's appearance before the day of the Lord. Elijah is to preach the word of God, salvation, on the backdrop before it comes, Malachi 4:5

The order.

Absolutely not. The witnesses are the sealed 144,000 saints.

The two olive trees, and the two lampstands that stand before God.

The house of Israel & the House of Judah.

Unless you're thinking of Revelation 11:3.

Roman. Malachi 4:5. Do you think that Matthew 17:10-13 has something to do with that prophecy? Or, is there another fulfillment?

Malachi 4:5

I will make a bet with the advanced Bible readers that they will not know Elijah when he comes, before the day of the Lord. Why, because they hadn't noticed anything thus far.

When Elijah comes preaching, you won't give it a thought. You might even think satan sent him.

Matthew 16:2-4

Adam, man cannot live by the Old Testament alone. Do you have any prophetic observations you'd like to share? Perhaps you can discuss the coming of Elijah (in the order of) Malachi 4:5 before the coming of the dreadful day of the Lord. Or, if the sealing of the tribes prior to the day of the Lord corresponds with 'your young men dreaming dreams'. Joel 2:28. Since the sealed lie dead in the streets for 3 1/2 days, while the beast continues, these visions are most likely to be realized in that 3 1/2 day window prior to the day of the Lord, when the spirit is heavily upon us? Have you ever thought about any of this, the wonder, the mystics, Adam?

Verses 17 through 21 give a clear indication of the rapture/resurrection of the righteous; and the burden of those left behind who themselves weren't delivered. There is a personalized assurance of resurrection for the prophet (verse 19); and this is similar to the verse in Job which states something similar in the last days. The birth pangs in verse 16 and 17 show how the nation cries out to God in that period of time; which makes the most sense after the rapture of the church and Resurrection of O.T. saints. Interestingly the increase of the nation is indicated twice in verse 15 after an earlier diaspora; which could show that a second phase of that is yet to come (perhaps after defeat of the armies in the Psalm 83 war). Going back to verse 10 and 11 we see a Millennium reference to when God's majesty even in a land of "uprightness" and destruction either at Armageddon or the end of the Millennial period is indicated with fire devouring them (also of course indicative of eternal destruction in hellfire). The chapter begins with the edifice of what no doubt will constitute the heavenly city or Jerusalem during the Millennium; when the hope waited for in verse 8 is finally realized for His people. Those who tread down the lofty city in verse 6 sound similar to the verse about trodding on the ashes of the wicked in Malachi 4:3.

Hi Alex N. In your response to conditional promises, you wrote about the kingdom of God, as though all Christians already have this in them, I should clarify this statement therefore to you, the first dispensation of the kingdom of heaven is inwardly, it lasts for 2,000 years, from the time the Lord Jesus died until he returns, according to the Lord Jesus in Luke 17:20-21 all Christians have the kingdom of God in their heart, this is also taught in John 3:5, all Christians enter the kingdom of God when they are born again, The Apostle Paul affirms this truth in Colossians 1:13, however, this is not what I was speaking about in conditional promises, I spoke about the millennial kingdom of God, which has not happened yet, no Christian has entered this yet, all scriptures place conditions upon entering that kingdom of God. I will say this, we made it into the first dispensation of the kingdom by faith without works, but to make it into the millennial kingdom, it is by faith with works. Please read Matthew 7:21 only if a Christian does the will of God can he make it in, this is a condition attached to making it in the kingdom. Read Matthew 25:14-30 unless you used your talents you cannot make it into the joy of the Lord, being the millennial kingdom, again a conditional promise to get it, or read Acts 14:22 as we must suffer much tribulation in order to make it into the kingdom, another conditional attached to making it into the millennial kingdom of heaven. Again read the warnings of why Christians will not make it into that millennial kingdom in 1 Cor. 6:9-10 & Galatians 5:19-21 & Ephesians 5:3-5 as a result of living a godless lifestyle, you lose your inheritance of entering into the millennial kingdom of God, in order to rule and reign for a thousand years. As concerning your topic of the man child teaching us all things, that prophecy is for the coming of Elijah in Malachi 4:5-6 it is not the ministry of the man child. I hope this explains conditional promises.

All scientists seek to explain FOUR QUESTIONS: Time, Force, Action, Matter. (Even Steven Hawking)

I was reading in Genesis, the Holy Spirit stops me on verse 1. He said the 4 things

TIME: in the beginning__God set TIME ticking

FORCE: The Godhead created. (Father, The Word ( John 1:1) and Holy Spirit

ACTION: and the Spirit of God MOVED over

MATTER: earth, waters, atoms

God purposed, Word spoke: Light Be, and there was Light. (Purpose Spoke Light)

Carbon dating proves earth is around 2-3 billion years. SATAN was around but he's a created being. He cannot create dinosaurs, cavemen or anything other than chaos.

My personal theory is: Romans 1:19-20. God put the artifacts in earth for us to find; oil for our cars, coal to be warm, fresh water for us and salted water for creatures.

We have to pray for scientists to see the Book of Romans. It's an occupation, as is archaeology, bio science, medicine. We are without excuse if we refuse to acknowledge The Godhead.

I caution you, not to teach your ideas to Gods baby Christians.

There are many, many more scriptures all over the Bible about creation; not just in Genesis.

I think we're all going to be in heaven watching God restore earth to BEFORE mankind messed it up. 2 Peter 3; Malachi 4:1

I've always thought some of the best stories are in chronicles, Kings, Samuel__Nehemiah. There's lots in Jeremiah. We just can't seem to like ALL parts of the Bible. Revelation 22 is key.

I don't want to show up in heaven, and meet Habakkuk and have to say: "sorry man, I never got to your book" :/

See, if you teach that man existed before Adam; that's called OLD EARTH THEORY. It's heresy.

Let's all remember that Malachi 3:16-18. God has a Book of Remembrance that writes down what we think and say about Him. How wonderful to bless His Holy Name!

I appreciate