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Who are the first and who are the last Are the first now the rich successful and powerful Are the last now the poor dispossessed and powerless If they accept Jesus Christ as their saviour then even the last now can be first then in God s new kingdom on earth after Armageddon And the first now will be last then in the kingdom of God For it is written Mark 10 25 It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God Is this not so

In Mark 10:11-12, Don't abardone your first wife or husband. Let no man think he can put his wife away, or woman to divorce her husband.

We should accept the love we feel in our heart of hearts. Without trying to describe it. The inate sense of oneness, meaning that we are not alone, is a constant current educating us through instinct. If you aknowledge the love of God feeding your soul and leave it as such, then Heaven herself will open the gates to bliss.

just wondering what 2 do regarding getting divorced from husband who left more than 3 yrs now and has been with many women since.he returned back in town. I have not spoken to him, tho many others have, including Pastor who used 2 counsel us, and Pastor, as well as many others believe I should divorce him. I don't have desire 2 be with him, yet the covenant I made unto God is why I hesitate to take action!I wonder if I should or not. Any scriptures or thoughts?

Humans should not separate whatever God has joined together because God would never do what He did if it was not good for us. God Himself joined man and wife together for them to help each other in life and in reaching heaven one day. A direct assault to this teaching of Christ would be divorce because it literally means cutting in half the lifetime of marriage man and wife promised each other. This bond which God had tied is never to be untied.

to me it means no one on earth has the authority to divorce two people joined together by GOD, for as the scripture states the one who marries her will be committing adultery, if caught in the act of adultery, the word of GOD say `what sin is there that is unforgivable, only the blaspheming of the holy spirit, so if CHRIST forgave us our sins who are we then not to forgive those who trespass against us!

Whom God the Father has joined together let no man think he can put his wife away but he needs to remember for what is bound on earth is bound in heaven , a man and women in marriage are joint in a holy covenant before God the father weather you were married in a church or not if you are a believer you will not break God's covenant but work to keep it as all covenants made with God are holy and under God's law. Amen

who God the father has joined together let no man think he can put away for what is bound on earth is bound in heaven , a man and women in marriage are joint in a holy covenant before God the father whether you were married in a church or not if you are a believer you will not break Gods covenant but work to keep it as all covenants made with God are holy and under Gods law Amen

I can't separate Mark 10:7 from Mark 10:8, they strongly belong together.... "...and the two become one flesh". The biology, physiology, and emotional and psychological bonding that God has designed into mankind is for a man and a woman to be married - one man, one woman, for life. My feelings or desires for multiple women or for a man in this intimate and life-long bonding relationship is restricted to one man and one woman for life, regardless of reproductive results. One flesh can imply child, but this same language is used in 1 Corinthians 6:16 with regard to having sex with a prostitute - ONE FLESH, and clearly a child is not the byproduct. As human beings, we must RESTRICT ourselves from all kinds of desires, wants, wishes, and urges. It is healthy and good. One flesh is all encompassing, involving the whole human being - not just our bodies but also our emotions, desires, heart, mind, and even dreams. We mess up with this, and we are simply in pain, confused, hurt, frustrated, and a bunch of other negative emotions; and we often deal with these things for much of our lives when we don't restrict ourselves to one man and one woman for life when it comes to sexual activity.

The rich young ruler called Jesus good. Jesus responds: There is none good but God. The point is: Since there is none good but God, if Jesus is good, then He must be God. There is no denying that Jesus is good. He does not just do good things, He is good. He is inherently good because of His deity. Because of this, had the rich young ruler fully believed who He was and trusted Him, he would have been willing to do anything Jesus asked him to do.

In order to get the proper meaning, one must consider two things:
1. The Greek words used in the text, as this passage was written in Greek, and
2. How this scripture corresponds to others, rather than making it stand on its own.
Due to the translation of the Greek word used, many Bible scholars choose to translate the latter part as "a God", or as "divine". This would support the rest of the Bible, both Old and New Testaments which refer to Jesus as having been created by God, serving as his only begotten son, and "the firstborn of all creation." – Colossians 1:13-16. Jesus himself stated that "the Father is greater than I am." – John 4:28. The scriptures as a whole support Jesus being the only-begotten son of God, sent here to make God’s name and Kingdom known, demonstrate the benefits of that Kingdom for humankind, and to provide a "ransom in exchange for many".- Matthew 20:28, Mark 10:45.

He loved him. He demonstrated that love for him by telling him what he must do in order to worship and become a disciple. The rich young ruler could have had vast satisfaction and blessing in obedience, but rather chose to be rich, how sad. He could have had great comfort in knowing he had forsaken all for The Master. Instead he doubtless lived a life of misery, never being satisfied with the wealth he loved more than his Savior.

Do we repeat this same mistake? Surely this man was a child of God for Jesus 'loved him'. Nevertheless, his selfishness hindered his joy in this time world.

If baptism isn't important to be saved then why does Christ say it is so often in the scriptures? Because it is very important.
Mark 16:16 | Read whole chapter | See verse in context
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Acts 11:16 | Read whole chapter | See verse in context
Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost.

Luke 3:21 | Read whole chapter | See verse in context
Now when all the people were baptized, it came to pass, that Jesus also being baptized, and praying, the heaven was opened,

Matthew 20:23 | Read whole chapter | See verse in context
And he saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of my cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with: but to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not mine to give, but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my Father.

Acts 1:5 | Read whole chapter | See verse in context
For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.

Romans 6:3 | Read whole chapter | See verse in context
Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?

1 Corinthians 1:16 | Read whole chapter | See verse in context
And I baptized also the household of Stephanas: besides, I know not whether I baptized any other.

Matthew 20:22 | Read whole chapter | See verse in context
But Jesus answered and said, Ye know not what ye ask. Are ye able to drink of the cup that I shall drink of, and to be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with? They say unto him, We are able.

Mark 10:39 | Read whole chapter | See verse in context
And they said unto him, We can. And Jesus said unto them, Ye shall indeed drink of the cup that I drink of; and with the baptism that I am baptized withal shall ye be baptized:

Matthew 3:14 | Read whole chapter | See verse in context
But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me?

Mark 10:38 | Read whole chapter | See verse in context
But Jesus said unto them, Ye know not what ye ask: can ye drink of the cup that I drink of? and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with?

Acts 22:16 | Read whole chapter | See verse in context
And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

You guys are entirely missing the point. Jesus is God. Him and the father are one. He is the express image of the father. The perfect imprint. The very icon of the father. Jesus in addressing the man, told him no one is good but God. Why? Look at the previous verse 17. This very man called him good teacher only because he witnessed his acts and not because he was convinced he was son of God. Jesus was trying to tell the man that one is good not because of only his outward act but also that he possesses the nature of God. There is a difference between right living and righteousness. You can only live right if you have the righteousness of God. The righteousness of God is the expression of the nature and will of God. Christ gave full expression to that. After all, it’s God that judges what is right and wrong. You have to know the will of God to know that. You can't just see a man and say he is good if you don't have the correct standard to judge by which is the will and nature of God. When you receive Christ, this is given to you as a gift. Only then can you rightly judge. Please study your bible very well. Spiritual things are foolishness to the natural man, 1 Corinth 2:14.

@Laoshang and Grant,
In verse 18:
1. Jesus is the son of God and he is God manifest in the flesh, read John;
2. God calls men throughout biblical history:
a. Man of God;
b. Friend;
c. One after my own heart; etc..
I do not recall God calling any man good. You need to look through the eyes God. We are all sinners in need of redemption and only Jesus deserves to be called good because he is the sinless lamb of God that taketh away the sins of the world.

@Grace,
On verse 11:
1. This statement is true under the law which at this time in history they were still under until the cross. Under grace in the church age the qualifications for divorce without spiritual consequences changes a little.
2. All things before salvation are forgiven by God and remembered no more;
3. Desertion in I Corinthians 7:10-15 is not held against the one who has been deserted.

@Tony's,
On Verse 15, the kingdom of God is a spiritual kingdom ( Romans 14:17) not physical as is the kingdom of heaven. The holy spirit is simply informing us that any person wanting to enter the kingdom of God must enter with the faith of little children that have believing minds and receptive hearts (souls). Remember both kingdoms; of God and of heaven are in Jesus Christ.

I interpret this as meaning that we should accept the Kingdom of God in good faith and trust, and not subject it to scrutiny and endless debate.

I love how they have King James Version! It helps me with my reports.

Jesus is preparing the disciples for what is going to happen to him when he goes to the chief priest at the time of the passover. He wants them to know that they will kill him, and he will be buried. Yet he will rise again on the third day. The disciples still did not get it, until after the resurrection. We have the witness of the Holy Spirit, and we should understand all these things now. That is why Jesus told the disciples after his passion, to tarry in Jerusalem till they would receive the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit takes the things of Christ, and makes them real to us.

god called abraham my friend and god called david my bossom son because of their goodness and to job and noah and many other he loved and called them good or obedient.then why jesus said there is no good man.to me there was good man and there will be good man.

i dont get it.... can you explain ?....
thanks

In John 1 we see that Jesus made everything that exists and then in Genesis 1:1 we see that God made everything that exists. It is crystal clear throughout the Bible that Jesus is God.

It shows that Jesus was not God. Compare John 20:28. Jesus did not rebuke Thomas because as the writter of this chapter explained in the following verses who Jesus was. The son of God. John20:31

Since the discussion centers around marriage, I think it's fair to say who God intended to be married - Male & Female. He did not create 3 males, 3 females and allow them to pair up as they desired. He created one to be with the other. No confusion!

To answer the anonymous person, I'm sorry I did not answer your question. Here is some scriptures that maybe helpful to you. Matt 3:7,20:33-23,21:25. Mark 10:38-39, 11:13. Luke 3:3, John 3:1-7, Romans 6:4, Eph 4:5, Colossians 2:12, 1peter 3:21 Jesus gave commission and we must obey, alot of scriptures are very easily to understand if you pray and ask God to give you knowledge from above as I ask he gives me the word with knowledge. God Bless!!

We as the people of God in this day and time need to just like this bild man,he couldn't see but something on the inside let this Jesus that heard about was passing by. ( deliverance) was on the way. and he use what he had to get to his deliverance. we like wise need to cry out to te lord to help us also in this day and time.

In the first reasoning about marriage Jesus takes us all the way back to Genesis Chapter 1 to remind us of the simple, natural order. Man and woman as one. The Mosaic laws even define that to lay together is to be "married". In antique or religious societies divorce does not exist except for extreme cases. Divorce creates sadness and confusion. We should have discernment, accept our choice of partner and work to keep the love pure. You can't be a virgin twice. What child doesn't want their Mom and Dad to both be there? I can't say it enough, divorce is horrible.

Interesting that the next story is about the children. To accept them like the Kingdom means to have an open heart. To love nature and enjoy creation. Children are so much fun to be around. They are more true and honest than (most) adults. They need us as much as we need them. People who say they don't like children must not like the Almighty either. Are we not all children of God?

The story of the one seeking eternal life and the reasoning with the disciples after is highly important. "Then Jesus beholding him loved him..." Jesus had compassion to offer the man an opportunity to follow him...and he declined! "Children, how hard is it for them that trust in riches to enter into the kingdom of God!"
Man is that true. Jesus was so free, without possessions, no home, no cares of this world. Remember the best things in life are free! Peter then throws in a doubtful little comment and Christ explains. Some times we don't acknowledge how similar we are and what gifts are right in front of our face. There are children, families, works to do any and everywhere. There are so many in need yet we only focus on our small circle. This relates to another scripture where God says that those who are alone will be put in huge families. If we follow God and the Spirit first we will have all things(including persecution).

As they made their way to Jerusalem Jesus explains how he will be captured and tortured. All James and John can think in their greed/egotism is "let us share in your glory", ignoring the sacrifice! As the others were outraged He used the example to give what I consider the greatest of teachings. That on the spiritual path the least shall be greatest, the greatest shall be a minister to all.

Finally the story of Bartimaeus ties this chapter together beautifully. Bartimaeus is crying and they try to quiet him...but he will not stop. Apparently he strips naked before the Lord. It is important to note again that Jesus did not heal him. His Faith made him whole!!! And then Bartimaeus does go on to follow Christ. Redemption.

There is a thread running through these seemingly separate tales. Love and Humility. Things Christ does and says are not planned, but occur in the moment. That is why there are contradictions between other accounts of the gospel. The lessons are fluid because each soul is unique, each day is a fresh beginning. Jesus was so humble, not even allowing himself to be called "good" or to take credit for inspiring the healing of a blind man. He showed compassion for married men and women, children, the one seeking everlasting life, his disciples, and lastly the blind man. What love The Man has. We should emulate Him to be one with all things, free, and perfect. All Glory to the Almighty, JAH!

Jesus Christ Taught the Indissolubility of the Marriage Covenant.

Our civil laws may permit divorce and remarriage, but God's Word condemns it. Marriage was established by God and not by man. In-as-much as marriage was ordained by God, His Word is the final authority in matters concerning it.

God's Word has not left us in the dark concerning marriage and divorce.

Jesus made it clear that divorce does not end the marriage covenant. If remarriage was legitimate, Jesus would have never called remarriage “adultery.”

The marriage covenant cannot be dissolved by civil law. When a man and woman unite in marriage and become ''one flesh,'' no power on earth, but death can dissolve that union.

In the divorce trial of Powers vs. Powers in the state of New York, Judge William J. Gaylord, instructed the jury as follows, he told the jurors;

“If you decide for divorce in this case, remember you may only cut the knot tied about the parties by the state's civil law, you absolutely cannot touch the covenant bond which states that these persons are married “till death do us part.”

I charge you gentlemen, that so far as concerns a covenant bond existing between these two people, we have nothing whatsoever to do with that. If these people are bound by a covenant, you and I are not seeking to sever that obligation.

When we are through with this case that obligation is left untouched.

We do nothing whatsoever to it. They are just as much bound by it after we get through with them, as they were before. We do not sever it, we do not break it, and that is something that it seems to me is very often misunderstood. Civil law cannot end a covenant made before God.”

If people realized the truth of Judge Gaylord's statements we would not be confronted with our divorce problem.

When a person goes to the courthouse and divorces his mate according to the law of the land, he only breaks the civil connection. He doesn’t break, “the one flesh” that was joined by God on his wedding day.

That day a covenant was entered into, through God’s Divine Law and civil law cannot touch that covenant. That covenant is valid unto death.

“A woman is bound to her husband as long as he lives.” 1 Corinthians 7:39

As the judge states, a civil court has nothing whatsoever to do with a covenant made before God and a civil court cannot dissolve a covenant that is bound by God.

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you people thingk this is about you, this is why theres about to be an understanding.

GOD was using the Prophets of Israel to express HIMSELF, that why they are HIS chosen Nation seprated form the world.

HE used the Sprirt of Love to consercrate a New Law, that we must love one another. Yes everyone are to abide by My HUSBANDS Law, but HIS chosen people the Hebrews (the blacks in bondage)those stautes are to remain with them first and before them, HIS Wife.

Who leads HIS True Church. That HE shows HIS devotions to her as HE deliveres Her.

so that means before the World gets delivered from Satans dominion, The Nation of Israel(not the false state) but the black slaves will be delivered. You know the promise of Abraham, Issac & Jacob? But before even them to be delivered it will be HIS Wife. ( ZECHARIAH 9:9)