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To add to discussion I just recently replied but felt led to add to my post. Just recently in Daniel I believe GOD revealed to me Daniel & his friends may have been, as captives of war made Eunuchs by Nebuchadnezzar- Daniel 1:1-3, Daniel 1:7-9, Daniel 1:10-11, each time it states those who were put over Daniel & his companions that title was given them 'over the Eunuchs' . There is no account of them having children that I've found. Futhermore when Nebuchadnezzar threatened people in his brutal way= Daniel 2:5, Daniel 2:12-13, Daniel 3:28-29, it was probably a very viable threat & intensely reality. Which now not only puts new light on Nebuchadnezzar's threats but his way of thinking.

Recently GOD's been showing me more in these scriptures. Daniel also is the only one that I've found where an angel says was greatly beloved, Daniel 10:11, Daniel 10:19, there seems to be a distinction in this address. GOD knows us & everything thing we have suffered, everything taken from us, even wrongful sterilization. He loves us! Hopefully this is also encouraging in a deep way as it has been to me. Yes I believe GOD addresses people personally & callings differ. Moses, Hosea, Ezekiel are few examples Daniel another. Sometimes HE calls us to do things others have not been called to nor had precedence for. Like Noah. In my life I've been reminded of this scripture more than once [1 Kigs 13:8-10,15,16,17,18,21,22,*24,] 1 Kings 13:1-32, we must obey GOD ALMIGHTY in what HE calls us to do personally.

When I say a distinction the wording is a little Different than Isaiah 48:14, 2 Samuel 2:24, 1 Kings 10:9, Revelations 1:5, Revelations 3:9, John 14:20, Mark 10:21, & even Matthew 3:17 because CHRIST is the SON, THE WAY TRUTH & LIGHT, LIFE. If I had my Exhaustive Concordance at hand, I would study it more fully.

Ed on Hebrews 9

How do you get to heaven?

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Heaven:

Matthew 22:14

Revelation 14:3 144,000 (only taken from the earth Matthew 20:23)

1 Corinthians 15:42-44

Revelation 20 (Only one can be president and only a few

can be co-rulers. when Jehovah/ Psalm 83:18 choses a person...no one can steal that

away (not family, friends or acquaintances etc.). only that person can decide if they want to receive the invitation of reject it. Mark 10:17-31)

Earth: Isa. 45:18

2 Peter 3:13

Psalm 37:9-11,29,34

John 5:28,29

Revelation 21:3-5

Luke 23:42, 43 (Earth will be a paradise again

just like the days of genesis 1,2)

Matthew 11:26-30 (Jesus will comfort those remaining on earth)

Hope this helps

Matthew 20:20-23

Mark 10:36-40

Revelation 4 - 5 = Chapters 4 & 5

Additional scripture about references to the left of Christ

Matthew 25:31-46

Isaiah 41:10

Hopefully that helps, your seeking answers

These are most of the scriptures on marriage and divorce. Since you are a widow, you can remarry. The only hindrances come when you marry a non-believer. They may hinder you going to church; or reading the Bible; holding hands and praying over dinner. Here goes:

Matthew 5

31 It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement:

32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.

Commentaries:

Wesley's Notes for Matthew 5:31

Let him give her a writing of divorce - Which the scribes and Pharisees allowed men to do on any trifling occasion. # Deut 24:1; Matt 19:7; Mark 10:2; Luke 16:18.

People's Bible Notes for Matthew 5:31

Mt 5:31,32 Whosoever shall put away his wife. The divorce laws were very lax among the Jews. A man could put away his wife "for any cause" ( Matthew 19:8). Moses directed a legal letter of divorcement ( Deuteronomy 24:1). Christ positively forbids divorce except for unchastity. Marriage is a divine institution, and the obligation is for life. Mt 19:3-9; Romans 7:1-3; 1 Corinthians 7:10-17

You can read these other scripture references also.

this chapter has taken my faith from a 9.5 to a 10.

Hi Debbie.

I believe it's the Lord that "Joins" you together so the two will be one.

Mark 10:9. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

The Certificate doesn't join you as one, The Lord Does.

So yes get married!! Be joined as one!!

There's Nothing special about a marriage certificate today when two of the same sex can get one. When the Lord doesn't Join them in marriage.

God bless

Sissy, may CHRIST IN US GRACE US with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

There are TWO deaths, TWO resurrections and TWO judgements.

The FIRST death was Christ's death on the cross, the FIRST resurrection was Christ resurrection and the FIRST judgement is the JUDGEMENTS (TRUTHS) of God's word.

God's WORD says WE (sinful flesh) died (first death, you died to Christ) on the cross with Jesus, we were RESURRECTED (first resurrection) with him and our life is HID in Christ, we are being JUDGED (first judgement) by the TRUTH of God's word NOW.

If you AGREE with this TRUTH and this TRUTH becomes a reality (LIFE) to you; you will be TRANSLATED to the LIKENESS of CHRIST at the death of this body of flesh and will never see death.

If this TRUTH does't become a reality to you; you will died and lay in the grave until the SECOND resurrection, SECOND death (you have to die to Christ), SECOND judgement (truths of God's WORD).

ALL MANKIND is going to become sons of God; but God does it in HIS time frame or in HIS different AGES.

Romans 8:19 For the earnest expectation of the creature (mankind) WAITETH for the manifestation of the sons of God (those in the first resurrection that are TRANSLATED into the LIKENESS of Christ and never see death).

Romans 8:21 Because the creature (mankind) ITSELF also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption (death and the grave, second resurrection) into the glorious LIBERTY of the children of God (second death and second judgement).

There is ONLY one LIFE and that LIFE is CHRIST

1 Timothy 6:15 Which in HIS times (ages) HE shall shew, who is the BLESSED and ONLY Potentate, the King of kings (those in HIS LIKENESS), and the Lord of lords (those in HIS LIKENESS);

1 Timothy 6:16 Who ONLY hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto .....

Mark 10:8 And they twain shall be ONE FLESH ...

Matthew 19:6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but ONE FLESH. What therefore God has joined together, let no man put asunder.

Me on Mark 10:9

Hebrews 12:14. Follow peace with all men and Holiness without which NO MAN shall see the Lord.

Hey Paul Keen,

In order to know if God is speaking to you, you must first know God. Being saved is the first step, but you still need to know of God. Know His character, His Truths, His attributes; then you will know if you are hearing from God of the Scripture. John 10: 24-27

True believers can know the Truth, because you've studied the Truth in scripture.

To know counterfeit money, you must study the real money. Then you will be able to know the fake, because you know the true money.

Know Jesus, know the Truth. No Jesus, No truth.

Hey Robert,

Great questions and they are not irrelevant. Asking is good, it is the motive that may not be good. Many questions asked by the scribes and Pharisees were to try and trap Jesus and not to learn the truth.

Those who died before Jesus' death on the cross, were saved because of their faith in the coming messiah. Romans 4: 3-5, Genesis 3:15, Isaiah 11: 1-3. We look back to the cross, those before us looked forward to the cross.

Those who believe in the Messiah, the Christ will be at the Bema Seat of Christ, 1 Corinthians 3:11-16, Acts 4:10-12

God has always had a way for people of all ages to be saved. Ps 19; Luke 16:27-31

Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let US (plural) make man in OUR (not my) image, after OUR likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

John 17:21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in US: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. (22) And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as WE are one:

Matthew 27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

Luke 1:30 And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God.

(31) And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a SON, and shalt call his name JESUS.

(32) He shall be great, and shall be called the SON of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:

John 12:26 If any man serve me, let him follow me; and where I am, there shall also my servant be: if any man serve me, him will my Father (not Joseph) honour. (27) Now is my soul troubled; and what shall I say? Father, save me from this hour: but for this cause came I unto this hour.

Mark 10:40 But to sit on my right hand and on my left hand is NOT MINE to give; but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared.

Leviticus 18:22 - Thou shalt not lie with mankind, AS WITH womankind: it is abomination.

1 Corinthians 6:9-11 - Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor EFFEMINATE nor abusers of themselves with mankind, (Read More...)

Leviticus 20:13 - If a man also lie with mankind, AS he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Romans 1:26-28 - For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the NATURAL USE into that which is against nature: (Read More...)

1 Timothy 1:10 - For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;

Mark 10:6-9 - But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. (Read More...)

Jude 1:7 - Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

1 Corinthians 7:2 - Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.

1 Timothy 1:10-11 - For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine; (Read More...)

Romans 1:27 - And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

Romans 1:32 - Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Hi Norman,

I would just read what God says and ignore what man says. If you click on these or hover over them you'll see what each Bible verse says. It's clear to me what it says and means and is interesting how some others word hard to try to make it mean something else. 1 Peter 5:8

Matthew 7:14

Hebrews 10:26 "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,"

James 2:14-26 "...faith, if it hath not works, is dead..."

James 2:19 "Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble."

1 Peter 1:13 "...hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;"

Romans 11

John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments."

Matthew 12:31-32

Romans 14:12

1 Peter 1:5 - "...salvation ready to be revealed in the last time."

People have freewill to choose good or evil:

Psalms 25:12

Joshua 24:15 "choose you this day whom ye will serve"

Psalm 119:30

Luke 16:13

Proverbs 3:31

Fear God:

Joshua 24:14

Psalms 25:12

Proverbs 1:29

Seek God:

Psalms 63:1

"I'm not a bad person". Everyone thinks they're good, including the wicked.

Romans 3:23

Mark 10:18

I don't see any confusion to be had, I believe the bible lays out the Trinity (diety of God) quite plain, also as in 2 Peter it also plainly states, 2 Peter 1:21 "For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost."

Mark 10:15 "Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child, he shall not enter therein."

1 John 5:7-8 "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one." 8 "And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one."

John 1:14 "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth."

John 14:26 "But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you."

Hi Perry, are you sure about that? Do you believe that's God's standard- if so, where is your Bible references to back that up- or is that just your own arbitrary standard?

Jesus said no one is good Mark 10:18, so should I believe your standards over Jesus's?

Romans 3:12 is another worth considering.

One of the tactics from satan is to get people to assume they're already good and moral as they are and don't need to make any effort to obey God or Jesus, in fact, many claim they don't need Jesus and certainly don't need to be 'saved'. That is a classic fallacy, which the Bible predicted in advance and already has a clear answer for. It's all in the scripture ready to be read. I believe what God says over what men say.

God bless...

There's 128 verses with flesh, in the New Testament KJV

1 Corinthians 15:39

All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds.

Revelation 19:18

That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.

Romans 8:3

For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

Romans 8:12

Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.

2 Corinthians

For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh:

Philippians 3:4

Though I might also have confidence in the flesh. If any other man thinketh that he hath whereof he might trust in the flesh, I more:

Ephesians 2:11

Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;

Mark 10:8

And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh.

2 Corinthians 5:16

Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.

Ephesians 2:3

Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind;

God is good

evrse-Jesus is the way the truth an life no one cometh to the father but by me.

As you stated. If it may be the way we word things we post that may seem we might not see eye to eye. I don't think we are far off from each other. Though really the most important thing is that we are both with the Lord. As some of my other brothers and sisters here may not agree with me fully on everything. That's ok though. Again the most important thing is Jesus Christ. It is good for us to converse and if we do not agree on a certain point that's ok. We are still of the body of Christ and only trying to help one another.

Just for a couple other Scriptures with some things that are "above", of God, and "agathos" is not used:

Matthew 5:16 and Matthew 13:37-38. About letting your light shine before men of your "good" works to glorify our Father. That the "good" seed are the children of the Kingdom sowed by the Son of Man.

John 10:11. Jesus Christ stating He is the "good" Shepherd.

1 Timothy 2:3. Things being "good" and acceptable in the sight of God.

Titus 2:14. That we who are redeemed by the Lord be zealous of "good" works.

Hebrews 6:5. How the Word of God is "good".

James 2:7. The "worthy" name by which we were called.

To end I liked this one. Galatians 5:22. Both "agathos.." and "chrestotes" are fruits of the Spirit.

As I really can't differentiate that only "agathos.." is of the Spirit of God. That being the word Jesus used in Mark 10:18 does not mean to me this is only for Him. As other words like "excellence, righteous, honorable, wonderful, amazing, almighty, glorious, holy, beautiful, perfect, integrity, etc". To me this does not mean we would have to pick only one of these words for God. All of them fit Him perfectly. As I believe in the Greek, and most other languages, they have different words with somewhat of the same meaning.

God Bless.

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Thank you Sacha - I welcome all responses, as whatever is shared, unless completely in opposition to God's Word, can be useful for our knowledge & spiritual growth in the things & ways of God. So I agree, God did choose to have His Son born through a human, even though all humans are imputed with a sinful nature. And yes, I believe there was a reason for doing so.

At the foundation of Jesus' arrival & His Sacrifice, lies the unfathomable Love of God for mankind: John 3:16 & Romans 5:8 attest to it. To His people, Israel, that Love extended to the institution of the Law & the sacrificial system, so that through its performance, God's Anger against their sin was appeased & His Love declared in providing them a way out: a blood sacrifice was needed (through a pure spotless animal) so that life was paid for life (a substitutionary payment: Mark 10:45; 1 Peter 3:18). But that was for a time until Jesus came to fulfil the Will of God His Father ( Hebrews 10:5-10).

Since the animal sacrifices were temporary because of their inability to fully address the sin issue, they had to be a continual sacrifice, they gave no relief to man's consciences & never fulfilled God's eternal Plan, so at "the due time" God sent His Son to fully meet those shortcomings. God could have sent a specially created Lamb to fulfil this work or as some believe, a specially created Human to lay down His Life for sinners. So why didn't God do this?

Ultimately, the reason for this is in the Mind of God, but no doubt His Love for all, His requirement for a Perfect Sacrifice that fulfilled all His Demands & that there would be no further need nor better option to accomplish that Will, are a few of my thoughts. John 15:13 says, "Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends." Was not Jesus intimating that the fullest expression of Love is seen in one's unreserved willingness to sacrifice his own life because of the love for another?

Ismael,

Mankind, as a whole, from the very beginning, are not interested in pursuing TRUTH as much as having HAPPINESS.

Jesus stated this truth about mankind...

"Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and MANY there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and FEW there be that find it." Mat 7:13-14

Jesus came to bring us TRUTH and LIFE and is the ONLY WAY to God and true happiness...

"Jesus saith unto him, I am The WAY, The TRUTH, and The LIFE: no man cometh unto the Father, but by Me."Joh 14:6

why do we have sdo many miss under standing in life for so meany houndreds of years

When we're the dinosaurs and any good ideas it's a question in a class discussion

Some believe that while Jesus' body was in the tomb, His spirit was in hell.Scripture doesn't support that position when it is taken in context and we look at the meaning of the word "hell." In the Old Testament, the place of the dead or the place of departed souls was called "SHEOL." It was to this place that all souls of the dead went to await resurrection.

In the New Testament, we find the story of Lazarus and the rich man who both died and went to Hades ( Luke 16:19-31). The KJV translates the Greek word "hades" as hell but most other translations use the Greek word. HADES had two separated parts: Those who died in faith believing in God's promise waited for the resurrection in Abraham's Bosom. Those who died spiritually separated from God wait in torment for the resurrection unto death, eternal separation from God. The rich man was on the torment side and Lazarus was in ABRAHAMS BOSOM which was called "PARADISE" by the LORD Jesus Christ himself when He addressed the thief who found faith the day Jesus was crucified ( Luke 23:42-43)

For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment" ( 2 Peter 2:4). The word translated "HELL" here is not the Greek word "HADES" but is the Greek word "TARTARUS" meaning ABYSS or the lowest regions. This could very well be the "gulf" that was fixed between the PLACE OF TORMENT and Abraham's Bosom ( Luke 16:26).

Wherefore He saith, When He ascended up on high, He led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men. (Now that He ascended, what is it but that He also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that He might fulfill all things" ( Ephesians 4:8-10). Leading captivity captive seems to refer to Jesus taking all those that waited in Paradise to heaven to be with Him. The descending into the "lower parts"refers to Jesus mission of declaring Victory!

In response to:

Robert on Mark 10

What will happen to those that lived and died before Christ's sacrifice? What will they do when they stand before God? How will they be saved, or will they? I'm sorry if I'm asking irrelevant questions, but I really would like to know the answer if anyone has one.

It is my belief that when Jesus was in the tomb, He went back in time and gave those people a chance to choose at that time.

last to be served and the first to serve

Jesus went to the Cross to bring the Holy Spirit to us on the Day of Pentecost. He is the Spirit of Christ. He does many things to grow us up into the likeness of Jesus.

He speaks in the still, small voice to those who are tuned into His voice. I hear him near my heart or right ear.

1 Corinthians 12, teaches us on spiritual gifts. It says to desire the best gifts. The Holy Spirit gives the gifts as He wills. Verse 11. I think the best gift is the one you need most at a given moment.

Mishael

How do you know that God is speaking to you and how can you tell?

Is that sabbath is the only day we should enter the temple of God. in other words sabbath is only day we should go to church and not any other day of the week

107 billion people have lived.

1st resurrection consists of those souls that "died in Christ".

2nd resurrection after the 1,000 years is for everyone else.