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  • Martin on Mark 13 - 13 years ago
    Here is another proof that Jesus is not God. He did not know tha hour and the day. Jehovah God was the only one who knew about it.
  • Pastor Stephen W. PYle on Mark 13:36 - 14 years ago
    Dearly Beloved: Once again I'm selecting a topic for tommorrow's message at my church. The topic is:"lest He find us sleeping". The Bible speaks that we should awake and be alert at all times. There are times when fatigue and other factors cause us to sleep! The Holy Spirit is able to awaken us! He will come as a "thief in the night". In Gethsamane Jesus asked Peter, James and John why they could not tarry one hour?

    The world has fallen in a deep Satanic induced sleep and have forgotten The Lord's exhortation to "Watch" and "Pray" lest ye enter into temptation! Some just don't want to hear a preacher tell them to "wake up".

    Pastor Stephen W. Pyle
    Elkins WV
  • Anonymous on John 1 - 14 years ago
    woow don if you don't know wisdown is an atribute of a person but not a person itself , any way i'm agree with you that JESUS have the fully wisdown of GOD because HE IS GOD but also he is submit to his FATHER Mark 13:32 But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.
  • May on Genesis 1 - 14 years ago
    Joe: If you have read the Bible you surely would have picked the condradiction's up. However if you haven't then I will enlighten you. Let me just say that the references that I'm about to quote may not be in your Bible as there are many Bibles available on the market that are used by different Christian sects each claiming that their Bible is translated as the word of God.The references I will quote comes from the Tyndale Bible.
    Jeremiah 8:8
    "How can you say we are wise because we have the the word of the Lord, when your teaches have twisted it by writing Lies"
    The Condradiction's In the Bible start from;
    In 2 Samuels 8:4 it reads
    "David captured 1700 charioteers and 20,000 foot solders, he crippled all the chariots except enough for 100 chariots".
    Now read
    1 Chronicles 18:4
    "David captured 1000 chariots, 7000 charioteers and 20,000 foot solders. He crippled all the chariots horses except for 100 chariots".
    Other examples are;
    2 Samuels 8:9-10
    1 Chronicles 18:9-10

    2 Kings 8:26
    2 Chronicles 22:2

    2 Samuels 6:23
    2 Samuels 21:8

    Genisis 6:3
    Genisis 9:29

    John 5:37
    John 14:9

    John 5:31
    John 8:14
    You see Jo All doctrines of modern Christianity are made by man. They are definitely not quotes from the bible For example;
    The Trinity, Divine Son ship Of Jesus Christ, Original sin and atonement.
    Jesus as he says in
    John 8:28 "I do nothing of myself"
    John 14:28 "My father is greater than I"
    Mark 12:29 "The Lord is ONE lord"
    Mark 13:32 "No one knows the day or hour when these things will happen not even the angles in heaven or the SON himself, ONLY THE FATHER KNOWS"
    The word Trinity is not Biblical nor is it used in any Bibles or Bible dictionaries. Trinity was never specifically mentioned by Jesus. The formation of the word "Trinity"was presented by Athenasius, an Egyptian Deacon from Alexandria and was accepted by the council of Nicea more than three centuries after Jesus had departed from this earth.
    Other such "Man made" decisions of the council contributed to the declaration of the Roman Sunday as the Christian Sabbath, and the establishment of December 25th as Jesus birthday. This was done in order to have a celebration that occurred on the same day as the birthday of the pagan gods such as Nimrod (Babylon god) Krishna, (Hindus god), Mithra (Greek god) and Dionysius (Bacchus of greece)who is named the only begotten son of Jupiter and was born of the virgin mother Demeter, on the 25th of December. As you can see the celebration of the birth of Jesus is clearly an idea of pagan decent. As clear as we can read in black and white the Bible forbids even the decoration of christmas trees;
    Jeremiah 10:3-4 "Their ways are fertile and foolish. They cut down a tree and a craftsman carves an idol". "They decorate it with gold and silver and than fasten it securely with hammer and nails so it won't fall over".
    The conclusions to my recent research on religion is that we so called true Christians are not even close to abiding by Gods laws, far from it. We are such Hippocrates.
    I hope this helps Jo, May God give you blessings
  • David Herrera on Revelation 1 - 14 years ago
    Luke 21:27
    And then shall they see the Son of man COMING in a cloud with power and great glory.

    Matthew 24:27
    For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the COMING of the Son of man be.

    John 5:28
    Marvel not at this: for the hour is COMING, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,

    Mark 13:26
    And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.


    Matt. 24:20-24
    20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
    21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
    22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
    23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here [is] Christ, or there; believe [it] not.
    24 For there shall arise false Christ, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if [it were] possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
    25 Behold, I have told you before.


    26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, [he is] in the secret chambers; believe [it] not.
    27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

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  • Garyloyd newman on Revelation 6 - 14 years ago
    We do need to watch Israel. Mark 13:7 and when ye hear of wars and rumours of war,be ye not troubled; for such things must needs be; but the end shall not be yet. So, the opposite of war is peace. Right now they have a peace treaty here and a peace treaty there and the U.N, jumps around and wants peace but war goes on and now they say we got to have the New World order to have peace. What I'm saying is watch out when peace comes to Jerusalem. Watch out! The great magician is coming to town who can do great wonders and will put on the greatist show you ever have seen. his sword is lies blowin smoke and the whole world will chase after peace. How else could you get the whole world to follow you. Give them what they want. he sits on the throne and says he`s god
  • J.R.Carman on Mark 13 - 14 years ago
    The destruction of the temple spoken of in Mark 13:1 has absolutely nothing do do with the Roman destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD. Some of the stones still stand, enough in fact to be called the "Wailing wall or the West wall" of the temple. The temple Christ is referring to is the spiritual temple of the earthly, corporate representation of the Kingdom of God which was the nation of Israel in the Old Testament era and the churhes and congregations of the New Testament era . These two entities are synonmous with one another all throughout the Bible. The temple is the churches that have been completely destroyed spriritually as evidenced by Satan being installed to rule the churches as He is the "Abomination of Desolation" spoken of in Mark 13:14. The Pre- Millinal teaching that the vast majority of churches teach has deceived and spiritually crippled those in their understanding of end time events and is a conjured doctrine that has been used by Satan and his ministers of righteousness to keep those in the churches thinking that Judgment Day is far off and that so many pre-millinial ideas must first come to pass before the end. Don't believe Pre-millinalism. Compare Scripture with Scripture and do not look at what is going on politically as evidence for the end. As God wills, more later.
  • Ernest on James 1 - 14 years ago
    derek,
    I was reminded by the Lord's Holy WORD as follows!

    DOERS OF THE SCRIPTURE ARE NEEDED BIGTIME!

    Come on now. You really need to read this carefully. SCRIPTURE IS PLAIN. SCRIPTURE IS THE ONLY WAY WE KNOW JESUS! MANY only go to church on sun-day because the catholics made them. They changed the calendar and PASSED IT DOWN AS MAN'S TRADITION. They DID NOT ADHERE TO SCRIPTURE, AND THEREBY FORGOT TO REMEMBER TO KEEP THE SABBATH DAY HOLY. THIS is not being said lightly. TRADITIONS CONTRADICT SCRIPTURE. WHEN THEY DO THEY MUST BE PUT DOWN IN FAVOR OF HOLY SCRIPTURE. IF not we don't have any faith in what the scripture says because FAITH COMETH BY HEARING AND HEARING BY THE WORD OF GOD! Those that changed sabbath to sunday have abandoned the faith that cometh by hearing that comes by the word of God. Go ahead study to show thyself approved and don't trust any man. Let EVERY MAN be A LIAR BUT LET GOD BE TRUE! HE IS TRUE IN HIS WORD!

    Exodus 31:13 Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you.

    Exodus 31:16 Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.


    Psalm 119:6 Then shall I not be ashamed, when I have respect unto all thy commandments.

    John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

    John 15:14 Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you.

    1 John 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

    Now, some may quote 2 Corinthians 3:6 "Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life."

    But what is also TRUE THROUGH AND THROUGH IS THIS SCRIPTURE FROM JESUS HIMSELF THE FULFILLMENT OF THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS: " John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life."

    What "letter" of the law is being spoken of here? Is it the letter of the law that is indicated in the following scripture? 2 Peter 1:20-21 "Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost." Is it the "letter" of the law that is being spoken of in this scripture? 2 Timothy 3:15-17 "And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works."

    ALL SCRIPTURE includes old an new testament. Circumcision of the male organ is the judaizing factor which is ABSOLUTELY NOT NECESSARY unless it involves the "CIRCUMCISION OF THE HEART FROM AN EVIL HEART OF UNBELIEF."

    Jesus said to keep His commandments! One of them is to remember to keep the sabbath day holy as a sign of Him as we await and prepare for His coming. the catholic church changed the calendar to sunday, the first day of the week and the catholics will boast and brag quite boldly that they did because of their IMMENSE POWER. So much is their boldness that they berate protestants who SAY they believe the bible first and foremost for their not keeping the SCRIPTURAL SABBATH. Catholics despise what they call sola scriptura and if they see waffling or weakness or inadherence to the scriptures by those that SAY they adhere to scripture first and foremost, they take every opportunity to impugn their RESOLVE, because they SAY and DO NOT DO!

    JESUS IS THE FULFILLMENT OF THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS. The New Testament is NO REPLACWEMENT OF THE OLD. IT IS THE FULFILLMENT! Need proof! Here are some EXPLICIT references AS WRITTEN IN THE King James Bible, TRUE THROUGH AND THROUGH IN EVERY WORD!


    Matthew 1:22
    Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying,

    Matthew 2:15
    And was there until the death of Herod: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Out of Egypt have I called my son.

    Matthew 2:17
    Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremiah the prophet, saying,

    Matthew 2:23
    And he came and dwelt in a city called Nazareth: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, He shall be called a Nazarene.

    Matthew 4:14
    That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying,

    Matthew 8:17
    That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying, Himself took our infirmities, and bare our sicknesses.

    Matthew 12:17
    That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying,

    Matthew 13:14
    And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:

    Matthew 13:35
    That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, I will open my mouth in parables; I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world.

    Matthew 21:4
    All this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying,

    Matthew 24:34
    Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

    Matthew 26:54
    But how then shall the scriptures be fulfilled, that thus it must be?

    Matthew 26:56
    But all this was done, that the scriptures of the prophets might be fulfilled. Then all the disciples forsook him, and fled.

    Matthew 27:9
    Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremy the prophet, saying, And they took the thirty pieces of silver, the price of him that was valued, whom they of the children of Israel did value;

    Matthew 27:35
    And they crucified him, and parted his garments, casting lots: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, They parted my garments among them, and upon my vesture did they cast lots.

    Mark 1:15
    And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.

    Mark 13:4
    Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign when all these things shall be fulfilled?

    Mark 14:49
    I was daily with you in the temple teaching, and ye took me not: but the scriptures must be fulfilled.

    Mark 15:28
    And the scripture was fulfilled, which saith, And he was numbered with the transgressors.

    Luke 1:20
    And, behold, thou shalt be dumb, and not able to speak, until the day that these things shall be performed, because thou believest not my words, which shall be fulfilled in their season.

    Luke 2:43
    And when they had fulfilled the days, as they returned, the child Jesus tarried behind in Jerusalem; and Joseph and his mother knew not of it.

    Luke 4:21
    And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears.

    Luke 21:22
    For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.

    Luke 21:24
    And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.


    Put away yuor tradition and take up the tradition of GOD ACCORDING TO HIS WORD. HIS WORD IS PLAINLY TRUE. IF you can read it, you can rely on it, even if you do not fully understand it. Ask and YE shall receive will take care of that part. Any lesser standard of belief in HIS HOLY WORD, is accepting the traditions of men and those are the "LETTERS" that "KILL" and those are what JESUS DECRIED AND BERATED THE PHARISEES ABOUT.

    If you still insist the Sabbath, the token of JESUS CHRIST AND MESSIAH is not important or "JEWISH", since when have you as a believer in JESUS been CUT OUT OF THE OLIVE TREE'S ROOT AND FATNESS. You as a believer in JESUS ARE GRAFTED IN TO THE ROOT AND FATNESS THAT IS JESUS OUR KING. The Jews wre broken off for unbelief, and do you think you with unbelief will fare any better? Look it up. If it says "unto all your generations" or "perpetually" or "everlasting" etc. do we disregard that these words have EXTREMELY important meanings to ALL BELIEVERS? If you will keep the tradition of separation and GOD FORBID hatred of JEWS, YOU HAVE IGNORED the STORY OF RUTH AND THE WORDS OF THIS GENTILE MOABITESS HAVE BEEN FORGOTTEN. LET THEM NEVER FALL FROM YOUR LIPS. "YOUR GOD SHALL BE MY GOD AND YOUR PEOPLE SHALL BE MY PEOPLE!"

    STOP WITH THE TRADITION ALREADY! DO IT ACCORDING TO THE PLAIN WORD OF GOD, HIS WORDS ARE SPIRIT AND THEY ARE LIFE!!!!


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