Discuss Mark 16 Page 5

Jesus himself explains to His disciples

what to expect in the end times. There are two sets of verses regarding Jesus explanation:

"Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn,

and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other" ( Matthew 24:29-31, KJV).

Sequence of Events:

1. The Tribulation ends.

2. Sun, moon darkened - stars fall.

3. The sign of the Son of man seen - Son of man

coming.

4. Angels sent with sound of trumpet.

5. Elect gathered from four winds (earth) and one end of heaven to the other.

Timing: The coming of the Son of man and his gathering of the elect follows the darkness at the end of the tribulation.

I would like to comment on 1 Corinthians 15:51-52. Paul says, "behold, I shew you a mystery;" First of all: we shall not all sleep. The word sleep is the Christian term for death, because the body is only be buried in the ground temporarily. The physical body has the appearance of sleeping. Once a person separates from the body, it's called death.

We shall not all sleep but we shall all be changed. It tells us in Verse 52 how fast this will happen. In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet:

Fascinating statements! The word moment (ATOMA) in Greek is the word for atom. What he's saying is that it will be so fast, (less than a millisecond). The atom cannot be split, so he says it's that short of a time. You can't even split the second that it's going to take for this to happen! It's in the twinkling of an eye, not blinking of an eye, but twinkling of an eye, the sparkle. And it's at the last trumpet.

Many believe that this will occur after the seventh trumpet blast in the book of Revelation. And that seventh trumpet blast introduces the second coming of Christ. So they say it is at that last trumpet.

But if we understand "Biblish" which is bible English or bible language, the seventh trumpet is not the last trumpet. It's the seventh trumpet! It's the last of the seven. This one here is specifically the last trumpet for the call. In fact, it is the same trumpet mentioned in 1 Thessalonians Chapter 4 about the rapture because he says "For the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised."

By the way, that trumpet is not going to be some trumpet player. In the Hebrew, it's the word Shofar. It is a ram's horn. They blow them even in Israel today for the gathering of the armies. It's sounded from the top of the temples for the priests to come to their daily duties at the temple.

So this shofar will sound, the dead shall be raised incorruptible, not in their corruptible body, but a new body incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

Hi Mike.

Some do a lifetime of study and debates on such topics for hobby, I agree with Brother Adam. Be ready.

God bless.

Whether pre or post-tribulation view we will find out when it occurs. Either way we already know how to prepare and what to do during our short time on earth. Some get really into such debates and I think the first part of Titus 3:9 may be applicable. God bless.

What Do the Scriptures Really Say About the Rapture?

To get an understanding that comes from God's Word and not from our own expectations of God's plan, we need to see what each scriptural reference is really talking about. We also need to establish what events take place for each verse and when they occur.

Let's start with the favorite verse quoted to support the rapture of the church at the start of the tribulation.

"For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Wherefore comfort one another with these words"

( I Thessalonians 4:16-18, KJV).

Sequence of Events:

1. The Lord descends.

2. A shout, voice, trump.

3. The dead rise.

4. The living caught up.

Timing: Nothing specifies a particular time for these events. In this verse we found nothing conclusive to be used to identify the specific time when the rapture might occur except that it follows the Lord's descent from heaven and the sounding of the trumpet of God. Let's take a look at another very popular verse about the rapture of the church:

"Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we

shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed"

( I Corinthians 15:51,52, KJV).

Sequence of Events:

1. The trumpet sounds.

2. The dead rise.

3. The living changed.

Timing: Begins with the "last trump". The trump identified as the "last trump" seems to be the cause of these events. This appears to indicate that other trumpets will sound before this one, but none after it. Could this be the final (seventh) trumpet

found in Revelation? If so, that would put it at or near the end of the tribulation.

This morning I thought more on Lazarus & the parable of Lazarus, in thinking about it: maybe the parable/story was also about how the "Rich" in scriptural knowledge, not sharing or helping while Lazarus had "wounds the dogs would._." alone in his suffering, while the other had historical words of hope, healing, redemption, deliverance.

Just thinking: even though Lazarus in real life may not have been financially poor, his sister had been tormented by 7 demons, in front of the ' religious ' for they judged her openly, Lazarus who dwelt with his sister/s suffered.

Jesus walks in, delivers, redeems, forgives, restores & teaches GOD's words. Mark 16:9, Luke 5:17, Luke 5:29-32, Mark 2:14-17, Matthew 9:10-13, Luke 8:2, Mark 16:9,

John 11:2, John 12:1-11, Luke 7:36-50, Luke 8:2, believing Mary to be Mary Madgelene, & reading John 11:2, (as the only time Jesus feet were anointed with oil, & wiped by a Mary's hair)

Luke 16, interestingly in the Parable/story the "rich" man cried "Father Abraham, have mercy._.._" & "if they hear not Moses an the Prophets._."

John 11, & John 12,

Reading, Matthew 25:31-46, Matthew 7, Romans 2:8,

"believer" Mark 16:16-18, Luke 8, John 1:12, John 6:64, John 7:5, John 12:23-50, John 17, Romans 4, 1Thessalonians 2:13, Hebrews 11:6, James 2, James 2:19, Romans 1, through Romans 2, Romans 6,

* 1Peter 4, 1Peter 4:17,

Hope these are helpful

Hello, Michael R. Piland,

Praying in tongues biblical? Yes! & yes. Please don't let people tell you what the Bible says, & teach you. Scripture says if you lack wisdom ask GOD. James 1:5, here are relevant scriptures:

* Mark 16:17, in context, Mark 16, Acts 2, Acts 10, Acts 19:6, 1Corinthians 13,

* 1Corinthians 12, * 1Corinthians 14,

This website has a free download of the KJV,

Who was Jesus talking to when he talked about the drunkenness

can i request a king james bible so i can use for study thanks god bless

Hey Tom,

This is my understanding; All Israel was looking for the Messiah when He first came to deliver Israel from all oppressors and lead them into a new golden age. We see this as the question the disciples asked Jesus in Matthew 24:3. Jesus' purpose of His first coming was hidden from them, even the Apostles and John, Luke 18:31-34. They even asked Jesus right before He ascended, if He was going to set up the kingdom then, Acts 1:6.

We see how distraught all were when Jesus was crucified and they did not even believe Mary when she told them He had resurrected, Mark 16:10-14. They were confused and had doubts because they were looking for Him to set up the kingdom then. John probably had these same thoughts when he saw what Jesus was doing because it didn't look like Jesus was moving to deliver the people from the Roman rule and set up the kingdom.

No one could know, because Satan could not know this part of God's plan, it was still a mystery.

Just my understanding

God bless,

RLW

Between the close of the Old Testament, was 490 years of silence from Heaven.

Then in Matthew and Luke, we see it is time for Jesus to come into the world.

where is the very center of the KJV ??

Hello Sue!

Yes! Please look at Mark 16:16 " he who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned."

Yes this makes it very plain.

With that said are there exceptios?

Yes! Remember the two that was crucify with Jesus. Remember 1 I had said if you or the son of God save yourself and us. But the other their said Lord remember me. Christ told him he will be with him in his Fathers kingdom. Was he baptized? No. But his faith in Jesus saved him.

Here are more scriptures you can read on the subject.

Romans 6:4

Eph. 4:5

Mark 1:9-10

John 3:23

1Peter 2:21

Is it a matter of personal opinion? Yes! But not yours or mine. But is Christ's command.

Go to John 3:5

"Unless one is horned of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.

Hope this helps my friend.

If you need more let me know.

God bless my friend.

Please fine you u get to try the Lord on and in His word. In peace I tell you to go out to the whole creation and preach the gospel of Jesus. And you and your house will be saved. Him and see if the Word of God lives in you beloved.

Thank you for mentioning this to me today. I needed this word to remember in the darkness of this world. May we just trust God.

Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

Love u in Christ friend and never give up in Jesus Holy name.

According to Strongs Exhaustive Concordance of the KJV Bible there are three variant Greek words translated devils.

The root word in his Greek dictionary of the New Testament is:

1142.

Transliteration daimn (Key)

Pronunciation dah'-ee-mown

Part of Speech masculine/feminine noun

Root Word (Etymology) From daio (to distribute fortunes)

a daemon or super-natural spirit (of a bad nature); - devil.

Matthew 8:31; Mark 5:12; Revelation 16:14; Revelation 18:2.

1139.

Transliteration daimonizomai (Key)

Pronunciation dahee-mon-id'-zom-ahee

Part of Speech verb

Root Word (Etymology) Middle voice from (G1142)

to be exercised by a daemon;-have a (be vexed with, be possessed with) devil (-s).

Matthew 4:24; Matthew 8:16; Matthew 8:28; Mark 1:32; Luke 4:36

1140.

Transliteration daimonion (Key)

Pronunciation dahee-mon'-ee-on

Part of Speech neuter noun

Root Word (Etymology) Neuter of a derivative of (G1142)

a demonic being; by extension a diety:-devil, god.

Matthew 7:22; Matthew 9:34; Matthew 10:8; Matthew 12:24,27,28; Mark 1:34,39; Mark 3:15,22; Mark 6:13; Mark 9:38; Mark 16:9,17; Luke 4:41; Luke 8:2,27,30,33,35,38; Luke 9:1,49; Luke 10:17; Luke 12:15,18,19,20; Luke 13:32; 1 Corinthians 10:20-21; 1 Timothy 4:1; James 2:19; Revelation 9:20.

demon - The Modern English word demon derives from the Middle English demon: from medieval Latin demon, from Latin daemon, from Greek daimn 'deity, genius'; in demon; also from Latin daemonium 'lesser or evil spirit', from Greek daemonion, diminutive of daimn.

devils - The Modern English word devil derives from the Middle English devel, from the Old English dofol, that in turn represents an early Germanic borrowing of the Latin diabolus.

The KJV translation is not a word for word or uniquely and infallible inspired representation of the Greek New Testament, and we should be cautious in choosing which English words in it we want to make our hills to die on without first consulting the Greek.

Mark 16:15-20,

Matthew 10:1, Matthew 10:8,

Mark 16:9,

Matthew 17:16-21, Mark 6:1-13, Mark 9:16-29,

Hi Ruth, I believe it means water baptism. Water baptism is mentioned many times in the New Testament and is both physical and symbolic. If it wasn't important then Jesus would never have mentioned it and He wouldn't have baptized nor been baptized Himself, nor talked so much about it. But when I read it with an open mind and with no regard to denominational influence, it's obvious to me that at bare minimum this act of obedience is extremely important. The verses below are quite compelling. Beware of anyone who tries to sway you away from obeying or following Jesus. We can best avoid false teaching if we read God's Word and pray for wisdom and understanding. Link

Acts 2:38 - Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Mark 16:16 - He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Matthew 28:19 - Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

John 14:15 - "If ye love me, keep my commandments."

God bless

1 Corinthians 12, 1 Corinthians 13, 1 Corinthians 14, all three Chapters have much about speaking in tongues. Acts 10:46, Acts 19:6, Mark 16:17-18, Acts 2,

Hopefully this gives you the insight you're looking for.

Please see these references: Mark 9:1-7, Matthew 17:2, Matthew 28:3, Luke 9:29, Revelation 19:11-16, Revelation 1:14, Mark 16:5, John 20:12, Acts 1:10, Ecclesiastes 9:8, Revelation 3:4,5, Revelation 7:9-17, Revelation 20:11, Isaiah 1:18, Revelation 6:2,11, Revelation 9:18, Daniel 11:35, Revelation 4:4, Daniel 7:9, Revelation 2:17, Daniel 12:10,

John 4:35,

But Also : Genesis 40:16-23, Joel 1:7, Leviticus 13, Revelation 15:6,

Hopefully these are helpful.

Sister Donna,

Amen.

1 John 5:2-3

By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous

God Bless.

Jesus kept the Sabbath. It was important to Him. :-). If It's important to Jesus, it's important to me too.

Hi Sister Donna,

Jesus tells us in scripture below that God made the sabbath for man:

Mark 2:27

"And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:"

Jesus doesn't say the sabbath was made just for the Jews, or for just Israel. The scripture is plain - the sabbath was made for man!

Man can say anything to bend and twist the bible scripture. People ignore and twist bible scripture regularly - to fit their worldly lifestyles.

Read the bible scripture for yourself and believe it!

God Bless.

Oops.should say commandment #4. Wish there was an edit button. Here and in life lol.

Exodus 31:16

Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the Sabbath, to observe the Sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant."

There's no doubt that the Sabbath is to be kept as an everlasting covenant. The scripture is clear.

Here's my question. Is this commandment for the NON children of Israel as well?

It is one of the Ten Commandments,#8. I have been desiring to keep the Sabbath lately but I'm not part of the 7th day Adventist movement and there are zero others teaching anything on the Sabbath. When I talk to my family they say that's not for us today or that's for the Jews or the Old Testament church or my Sabbath is on Monday.

If you LOVE me you will keep my commandments is a very powerful scripture. It's one of a few that literally changed my life recently and caused me to repent of the wicked lifestyle I was living.

Hello Sister Judy,

Amen, and well stated. Saturday has and always will be the Holy Sabbath Day.

If we are truly Christ Followers, we will follow Christ, as indeed He and the apostles also did. The Sabbath was made for man to rest, and to keep holy. We should observe it and thank God for it! Yes, it is the 4th Commandment. Jesus sums up following "the commandments" in one of the smallest yet strongest verses in the bible:

John 14:15

"If ye love me, keep my commandments."

This simple verse cuts to the heart! We don't love Jesus if we don't follow his commandments!

Happy Sabbath Day, and God Bless.

Mark 16:1 "And when the Sabbath was past" (the 7th day) 2. "And very early in the morning the first day of the week..." (Sunday) How can this be misinterpreted? Luke 23:54 And that day was the preparation, and the Sabbath drew on. 56. ....they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the Sabbath day according to the commandment. Luke24:1 Now on the first day of the week... (Sunday) early in the morning, they came to the sepulcher...

Luke 4:16 ....and as his custom was He (Jesus) went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day.... Luke 13:10 ...and He (Jesus) was teaching in one of the synagogues on the Sabbath. Genesis 1:5....He called the light Day, and the darkness He called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day. Genesis 2:2...and on the seventh day God ended his work which He had made. 3 And God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it. (to set apart, to declare Holy)

Exodus 20:8-11 (4th commandment) Remember the Sabbath day to keep it Holy. Six days shalt thou labor and do all thy work, but the 7th day is the Sabbath. So we have established that the preparation day and the Sabbath drew on....was Friday. The Sabbath was the 7th day.... Saturday. He rose very early the first day of the week...Sunday. The Sabbath was established in the first week of creation to commemorate his work. A reminder that he is Creator God. The sabbath commandment starts with...remember. God knew that someday the world was going to forget the true Sabbath and worship a man made Sabbath. This happened under Constantine in the 3rd century when he declared Sunday to be a National day of rest. But he could not change the true Sabbath. He could only counterfeit a new day of rest. Then the Roman Catholic Church established it as a "Holy Day" but it was not Gods holy day. The Catholic Church claims the change and declares it as a "Mark" of their authority! There's that word "mark." Could it be the "Mark" of the Beast is making the false Sabbath (Sun day) law?

Healing scriptures: Deuteronomy 32:39, 2Kings 20:5, 2Chronicles 7:14, James 5:14, Hosea 6:1, Matthew 10:1-8, Mark 3:14-15, Luke 4:18, Luke 9:2, Mark 1:15, Mark 9:23, Mark 11:23,24,

Luke 4:40, Mark 16:17-18,

Luke 10:9, Jeremiah 17:14,

Here are some, hope they help

Please read the WORD for yourself : * Mark 16:17,

Romans 11:29, Romans 12:5-21, Acts 2, Acts 10:46, Acts 19:6,

* 1 Corinthians 12, whole chapter speaks of Spiritual gifts. Ephesians 4:4-25, these chapters: 1 Corinthians 13, 1Corinthians 14, also covers 'Speaking in tongues '

Hopefully these are helpful in your searching for true understanding