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  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} repent for remission - In Reply on John 3 - 3 years ago
    Part II OR: Baptism Of Repentance For The Remission Of sins?:

    God's Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided, 'Shows water' is NOT Under God's GRACE, Today:

    (1) Prophecy/Law for ISRAEL: The Twelve 'Were Sent' to water baptize!

    The TWO Main, of 12 baptisms =

    A) water, For remission of sins/induction into Israeli "priesthood!" {separate "study" IF you wish...} ( Matthew 3:5-6 Mark 1:4 Luke 3:3 John 1:31 Luke 7:29-30 Acts 10:37 Matthew 28:19 Mark 16:16 Acts 2:38 Acts 22:16 Ezekiel 36:25 John 18:35 Exodus 19:6 ) +

    B) WITH The Holy Spirit, Poured Out By CHRIST, for power, signs And wonders! ( Isaiah 44:3 Matthew 3:11 Mark 1:8 Mark 16:17-18 Luke 24:49 Acts 2:17-18 Acts 2:38 Acts 8:15-17 Acts 11:16 )

    Prophecy/Law

    Rightly Divided ( 2 Timothy 2:15 ) From Things That Differ!:

    (2) Mystery/GRACE! = our "apostle to the Gentiles" for The Body Of CHRIST:

    Paul 'Was Not Sent' to {water} baptize! Why Not?:

    Today: 'Only ONE' Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION, Spiritually Identifying members In (The ONE Body Of) CHRIST!! ( Ephesians 4:5 Colossians 2:12 Galatians 3:27 Romans 6:3-4 1 Corinthians 12:13 )

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    Thus, This ONE Baptism Is Performed, By God, Today, Under God's GRACE/MYSTERY Program, when the believer "confesses Jesus as Lord and Savior and believes that He died and rose again, and God Saves them" in the twinkling of an eye.

    Thus, "water baptism" Is Scriptural, But Dispensationally, "was for the Previous Law/Prophecy Program" of God, For ISRAEL!

    Conclusion, water baptism is Scriptural, but, TODAY, is UNdispensational! Amen?

    More spiritual understanding of 'Prophecy vs MYSTERY':

    Link
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Precious friend, the "gift" of tongues is Very Controversial. So, let us prayerfully Consider, According to Scriptures:

    Under God's Law, in HIS 'Prophetic' Program, believe AND be water baptized 'to be saved':

    1) doctrine: tongues, with Other 'signs,' Would Follow them that believed Mark 16:16-20

    2) execution of doctrine: those in the upper room, waiting, received the Baptism "With" The Holy Spirit "Poured out From CHRIST, for power" and each, from Many nations, "heard the Wonderful Works of God, IN his OWN tongue {'KNOWN' language}" Acts 2:1-11

    During the 'transition' from Law over to GRACE, after Paul was saved Acts 9:

    3) This 'power' was Also Given to the "first Gentiles saved," Acts 10:44-45

    4) In the 'carnal' Corinthian assembly, what is the 'purpose' of tongues? One teacher offers this: "Tongues are a sign for the believer." According To The Scriptures, God Clearly Says:

    1Co 14:22 "Wherefore tongues are for a sign, Not to them that believe, but to them that believe Not:..."



    Thus, Always BE VERY CAREFUL of "what men say," ok? But study:

    Rightly Divided ( 2Ti 2:15) From "Things That DIFFER!":

    After the 'transition' period, and God's "Dispensation of GRACE is Fully Implemented," is there still a "Confirming {sign} need" for the gift of tongues? Again, What Saith The Scripture about three gifts?:

    5) 1Co 13:8-10 "...whether there be tongues, they shall cease;...when That Which Is Perfect Is Come, then that which is In Part Shall Be Done Away."

    IF "That Which Is PERFECT Has Come!" then there 'should' be No Controversy about tongues/interpretation, since they "Have Ceased!" Correct?

    And, Further, God Teaches us, Under HIS GRACE: "...we walk BY FAITH, 'Not' by sight {signs, experience, feelings, emotions, etc.}" 2Co 5:7

    More "tongues Have Ceased" study: Link
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} on 1 Corinthians 12 - 3 years ago
    1 Corinthians 12:13 God's ONE Baptism for The Body Of CHRIST, Under GRACE/Mystery:

    Precious friends, Please Be Encouraged/Edified in This Important "study" of three baptisms:

    God's Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided, 'Shows water' is NOT Under God's GRACE, Today:

    (1) Prophecy/Law for ISRAEL: The Twelve Were Sent to water baptize!

    The TWO Main, of 12 baptisms =

    A) water, For remission of sins/induction into Israeli "priesthood!" {separate "study" IF you wish...} ( Matthew 3:5-6) ( Mark 1:4) ( Luke 3:3) ( John 1:31) ( Luke 7:29-30) ( Acts 10:37) ( Matthew 28:19) ( Mark 16:16) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 22:16) ( Ezekiel 36:25) ( John 18:35) ( Exodus 19:6) +

    B) WITH The Holy Spirit, Poured Out By CHRIST, for power, signs And wonders! ( Isaiah 44:3) ( Matthew 3:11) ( Mark 1:8) ( Mark 16:17-18) ( Luke 24:49) ( Acts 2:17-18) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 8:15-17) ( Acts 11:16)

    Prophecy/Law

    Rightly Divided ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From Things That Differ!:

    (2) Mystery/GRACE! = our "apostle to the Gentiles" for The Body Of CHRIST:

    Paul Was Not Sent to {water} baptize! Why Not?:

    Today: 'Only ONE' Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION, Spiritually Identifying members In (The ONE Body Of) CHRIST!! ( Ephesians 4:5) ( Colossians 2:12) ( Galatians 3:27) ( Romans 6:3-4) ( 1 Corinthians 12:13) --------------------------------------------------

    Thus, This ONE Baptism Is Performed, By God, Today, Under God's GRACE/MYSTERY Program, when the sinner "believes in CHRIST, that He died and rose again, and God saves them" in the twinkling of an eye.

    Thus, "water baptism" Is Scriptural, But Dispensationally, "was for the Previous Law/Prophecy Program" of God, For ISRAEL!

    Conclusion, water baptism is Scriptural, but, TODAY, is UNdispensational! Amen?

    Precious friends, Please be Richly Encouraged, enlightened, exhorted, and edified!"

    ( 2 Timothy 2:15; Romans 16:25; Ephesians 1:3-9; Ephesians 3:9 = Grace/Mystery 'fellowship,' today?)

    God's 'Simple' Will: Link
  • Preacher Rodney on Mark 16:15 - 3 years ago
    We are in the last church age on earth and the last global empire on earth before Jesus comes back. In chapter 16 it speaks of their hardness of heart and unbelief, which is so widespread in the churches of today. He upbraided them but people will not take that today from a preacher who is ordained by His Spirit. It's worse now. Covid has us living in fear and not faith. Jesus asked this question, would he find faith in earth when He comes back. There is a falling away from the faith right now. Just waiting on the revealing of the man of sin, the antichrist because the global system is in place for him to run.
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} - In Reply on Acts 4 - 3 years ago
    Precious Yunda, Please Be Encouraged/Edified in This Important "study" of three baptisms:

    God's Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided, 'Shows water' is NOT Under God's GRACE, Today:

    (1) Prophecy/Law for ISRAEL: The Twelve Were Sent to water baptize!

    The TWO Main, of 12 baptisms =

    A) water, For remission of sins/induction into Israeli "priesthood!" {separate "study" IF you wish...} ( Matthew 3:5-6) ( Mark 1:4) ( Luke 3:3) ( John 1:31) ( Luke 7:29-30) ( Acts 10:37) ( Matthew 28:19) ( Mark 16:16) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 22:16) ( Ezekiel 36:25) ( John 18:35) ( Exodus 19:6) +

    B) WITH The Holy Spirit, Poured Out By CHRIST, for power, signs And wonders! ( Isaiah 44:3) ( Matthew 3:11) ( Mark 1:8) ( Mark 16:17-18) ( Luke 24:49) ( Acts 2:17-18) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 8:15-17) ( Acts 11:16)

    Prophecy/Law

    Rightly Divided ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From Things That Differ!:

    (2) Mystery/GRACE! = our "apostle to the Gentiles" for The Body Of CHRIST:

    Paul Was Not Sent to {water} baptize! Why Not?:

    Today: 'Only ONE' Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION, Spiritually Identifying members In (The ONE Body Of) CHRIST!! ( Ephesians 4:5) ( Colossians 2:12) ( Galatians 3:27) ( Romans 6:3-4) ( 1 Corinthians 12:13) --------------------------------------------------

    Thus, This ONE Baptism Is Performed, By God, Today, Under God's GRACE/MYSTERY Program, when the believer "confesses Jesus as Lord and Savior and believes that He died and rose again, and God saves them" in the twinkling of an eye.

    Thus, "water baptism" Is Scriptural, But Dispensationally, "was for the Previous Law/Prophecy Program" of God, For ISRAEL!

    Conclusion, water baptism is Scriptural, but, TODAY, is UNdispensational! Amen?

    Precious friend, Yunda, Please be Richly Encouraged, enlightened, exhorted, and edified!"

    ( 2 Timothy 2:15; Romans 16:25; Ephesians 1:3-9; Ephesians 3:9 = Grace/Mystery 'fellowship,' today?)
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Precious Susan, I will try one more time with Part I, if this website considers me a robot... Be Encouraged In God's Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided. In JESUS' Precious Name (Authority):

    When the powers, signs, and wonders were in effect, 'everyone' was healed - this 'authority' was Of God, "Confirming Through HIS apostles, That His Word Was The Truth!" Plus, All 'believers' in God's 'Prophetic' Program had this, from Christ, on the earth:

    "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. And these signs shall follow them that believe; In My Name {'Authority'} shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover. So then after The LORD had spoken unto them, He was received up into heaven, and sat on The Right Hand Of God. And they went forth, and preached every where, The LORD Working with them, and 'Confirming The Word With Signs following.' Amen." ( Mark 16:16-20)

    Notice, not all 'believers' at that time had the "authority to raise the dead." That "belonged to the apostles Only!" ( Acts 9:39-40)

    Act 5:12 "And by the hands of 'the apostles' were many signs and wonders wrought among the people... compare Acts 5:13-16 = everyone was healed.

    However, after Israel "fell" ( Acts 7:51-60), God "raised up Paul," who Also had signs, wonders, and powers "apostolic authority," which Also 'Included' raising the dead. ( Acts 20:9-10)

    After "God Finally set 'Israel' aside, and Paul went to the Gentiles Only" ( Acts 28:28), God 'Withdrew this {temporary} authority.' Since Paul's Revelation of The Mystery in Romans Through Philemon 'Fulfills/Completes' Scripture ( Colossians 1:25), 'Confirmation' was no longer necessary. What do we have for our 'infirmities' Today, Under GRACE?:

    continued in Part II (6 days below this post...) Be Richly Encouraged!
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Basic Distinctions between Prophecy and the Mystery (C.R. Stam) - continued:

    8) Prophecy mainly concerns nations as such ( Isaiah 2:4; Ezekiel 37:21-22)

    Rightly Divided ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From "Things That DIFFER!":

    8) The Mystery Concerns individuals ( Romans 10:12-13; 2 Corinthians 5:14-17)

    9) Prophecy concerns blessings, both material and spiritual, on earth ( Isaiah 2:3-4; Isaiah 11:1-9; etc.)

    RDf

    9) The Mystery Concerns "all spiritual blessings in The Heavenlies" ( Ephesians 1:3; Colossians 3:1-3)

    10) Prophecy concerns Christ's Coming to the earth ( Isaiah 59:20; Zechariah 14:4)

    RDf

    10) The Mystery Explains Christ's absence from the earth ( Ephesians 1:20-24; Colossians 3:1-3)

    11) In prophecy, salvation by Grace through faith alone is not contemplated ( Matthew 28:19-20; Matthew 23:1-3; Luke 7:29-30; Mark 16:16; Acts 2:38; James 2:17)

    RDf

    11) Salvation "By GRACE Through faith" Alone lies at The Very Heart Of The Mystery! ( Romans 3:21-26; Romans 4:5; Ephesians 2:8-9)

    12) The proclamation of the prophetic program committed particularly to the twelve ( Matthew 10:5-7; Acts 1:6-8; Acts 3:19-26)

    RDf

    12) The proclamation of The Mystery program committed particularly to Paul ( Ephesians 3:1-3; Ephesians 3:8-9; Colossians 1:24-27)

    13) The prophetic program revealed through many of God's servants Luke 1:70; 2 Peter 1:21)

    RDf

    13) The Mystery revealed through one man: Paul! ( Galatians 1:1; Galatians 1:11-12; Galatians 2:2; Galatians 2:7; Galatians 2:9; Ephesians 3:2-3)

    14) Old Testament writers frequently did not understand the prophecies made through them ( Daniel 12:8-10; 1 Peter 1:10-12)

    RDf

    14) Paul Both understood And longed that others might understand The Mystery revealed through him ( Ephesians 1:15-23; Ephesians 3:14-21; Colossians 1:9-10; Colossians 2:1-3)

    {borrowed from "Things That Differ" by C.R. Stam}
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} - In Reply - 3 years ago
    More Distinctions In God's TWO Different Programs!:

    Prophecy/Law: 15) The Two "Main" (of 12) baptismS = A) water, For remission of sins! ( Matthew 3:5-6 Mark 1:4 Luke 3:3 John 1:31 Luke 7:29-30 Acts 10:37 Matthew 28:19 Mark 16:16 Acts 2:38 Acts 22:16 Ezekiel 36:25)

    B) "WITH" The Holy Spirit, Poured Out By CHRIST, for power, signs And wonders! ( Isaiah 44:3 Matthew 3:11 Mark 1:8, 16:17-18 Luke 24:49 Acts 2:17-18, 38 Acts 8:15-17 Acts 11:16)

    Rightly Divided ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From {RDf} "Things That DIFFER!":

    Mystery/GRACE!: 15) Only ONE Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION, Spiritually "Identifying" members In (The Body Of) CHRIST! ( Ephesians 4:5 Colossians 2:12 Galatians 3:27 Romans 6:3-4; 1 Corinthians 12:13) 'ONE' = not two...

    Prophecy/Law: 16) Forgive others First, Then God Will Forgive! ( Matthew 6:14-15, 18:35; Mark 11:25-26; Luke 6:37)

    RDf Mystery/GRACE!: 16) Forgive others Because CHRIST Has Already Forgiven us! ( Ephesians 4:32)

    Prophecy/Law: 17) Taught how/what to pray! ( Matthew 6:9; Luke 11:2)

    RDf Mystery/GRACE!: 17a) we Are Exhorted to "...Make our requests known Unto God!" ( Philippians 4:6) While, At The Same Time, God "Teaches":

    17b) Concerning our infirmities, we "know Not" what to pray "as we ought," But "The Spirit Intercedeth For us, According To The Will Of God!..." ( Romans 8:26)

    Prophecy/Law {earthly!}: 18) "watchmen," {as CHRIST Told the Jews On the earth!}, looking for The "wicked one, the deceiving man of Sin" And "signs" ( Matthew 24)

    RDf Mystery/GRACE {Heavenly!}: 18) ambassadors {As CHRIST Told Paul, From Heaven!} Looking, Watching, & Waiting For The Holy One, The LORD JESUS CHRIST {From Heaven!} ( Romans 8:18, 19, 23, 25; 1 Corinthians 1:7; Ephesians 6:12-18; Philippians 3:20; Colossians 3:2, 4:1-3; 1 Thessalonians 1:10, 5:5-11; 2 Thessalonians 3:5; Titus 2:13)

    Please Be RichlyEncouraged!

    Heavenly GRACE/Mystery fellowship, today? ( 2 Timothy 2:15; Romans 16:25; Ephesians 1:3-9; Ephesians 3:9)
  • Chris - In Reply on Mark 16 - 3 years ago
    Matthew 28:2 indicates that the young man was an angel who rolled away the stone & remained by the sepulchre to give instructions to any who came by.
  • Lee on Mark 16 - 3 years ago
    Who was the young man sitting on the right side of the sepulcher?
  • Brother dan - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hi ChrisE,

    Thanks for your response and thoughts, as well as all of your related scripture, I read all of your scripture, and the scripture is all very good, but it does not convince me that water baptism is no longer a requirement for a Christian.

    When I read scripture I place the most weight when Jesus speaks (because he is speaking from God). Here is Jesus speaking about water baptism:

    John 3:5

    "Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God."

    Jesus said there must be 2 actions (TWO ACTIONS ARE REQUIRED) We must be born of Water and of the Spirit! Done. If you argue with this, then you are really arguing directly with Jesus, in my opinion.

    Here is additional scripture showing 2 ACTIONS are required:

    Mark 16:16

    "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned."

    He that believeth - We must believe - 1st ACTION

    and is Baptized - WE must be baptized - 2nd ACTION

    The scripture doesn't just say we must just believe, we must do BOTH!

    Last, but not least, my question would really be, why wouldn't a Christian want to be baptized in water and the spirit, as Jesus states: to enter the kingdom of Heaven?

    God Bless.
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Precious Dan:

    " Mark 16:14-17 So, yes Jesus does confirm that we must believe and be baptized! Amen"

    God's Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided 'Shows water' is NOT Under God's GRACE, Today:

    (1) Prophecy/Law for ISRAEL: The Twelve Were Sent to water baptize!

    The TWO Main, of 12 baptisms =

    A) water, For remission of sins/induction into Israeli "priesthood!" {separate "study" IF you wish...} ( Matthew 3:5-6) ( Mark 1:4) ( Luke 3:3) ( John 1:31) ( Luke 7:29-30) ( Acts 10:37) ( Matthew 28:19) ( Mark 16:16) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 22:16) ( Ezekiel 36:25) ( John 18:35) ( Exodus 19:6) +

    B) WITH The Holy Spirit, Poured Out By CHRIST, for power, signs And wonders! ( Isaiah 44:3) ( Matthew 3:11) ( Mark 1:8) ( Mark 16:17-18) ( Luke 24:49) ( Acts 2:17-18) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 8:15-17) ( Acts 11:16)

    Prophecy/Law

    Rightly Divided ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From Things That Differ!:

    (2) Mystery/GRACE! = our "apostle to the Gentiles" for The Body Of CHRIST:

    Paul Was Not Sent to {water} baptize! Why Not?:

    Today: 'Only ONE' Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION, Spiritually Identifying members In (The ONE Body Of) CHRIST!! ( Ephesians 4:5) ( Colossians 2:12) ( Galatians 3:27) ( Romans 6:3-4) ( 1 Corinthians 12:13) --------------------------------------------------

    Thus, This ONE Baptism Is Performed, By God, Today, Under God's GRACE/MYSTERY Program, when the believer "confesses Jesus as Lord and Savior and believes that He died and rose again, and God saves them" in the twinkling of an eye.

    So, "water baptism" Is Scriptural, But Dispensationally, "was for the Previous Law/Prophecy Program" of God, For ISRAEL!

    Conclusion, water baptism is Scriptural, but, TODAY, is UNdispensational! Amen?

    Please be Richly Encouraged, enlightened, exhorted, and edified!"

    ( 2 Timothy 2:15; Romans 16:25; Ephesians 1:3-9; Ephesians 3:9 = Grace/Mystery 'fellowship,' today?)
  • Brother dan - 3 years ago
    After Jesus was resurrected he met with his disciples and said the following:

    Mark 16:14-17

    14Afterward he appeared unto the eleven as they sat at meat, and upbraided them with their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they believed not them which had seen him after he was risen. 15And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. 16He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. 17And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues

    So, yes Jesus does confirm that we must believe and be baptized! Amen

    God Bless and Happy Sabbath Day!
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} on Galatians 2:7 - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Precious friend, IMKane: "Paul seems to be saying there were TWO gospels." Yes, Biblically Correct! Note the following 'Dispensational' Differences Between God's TWO Gospels:

    Part I Gospel of the kingdom =

    Gospel of the circumcision ( Galatians 2:7; Acts 3:25-26; Genesis 17:9-14)

    Preached by John, Jesus, and the 12 ( Matthew 3:2; Matthew 4:17; Matthew 4:23; Matthew 9:35; Matthew 10:5-8)

    The Prophecy Program for the Jews ( Luke 1:32-33; Luke 3:19-26; Daniel 2:44; James 1:1)

    Preaching of The Cross as historical ( Acts 2:23,36; Acts 3:14-15; Acts 5:30)

    Gospel to be believed = Christ's Name ( Matthew 16:16; John 20:31; 1 John 5:13)

    Salvation by faith and water baptism ( Mark 1-4; Mark 16:16; Luke 7:29-30; Acts 2:38)

    Justification without works is dead ( James 2:17; James 2:20; James 2:24; James 2:26)

    Repentance emphasized along with faith ( Mark 1:15; Luke 3:8-14; Acts 3:19)

    Reconciliation not mentioned.

    Covers Matthew - Acts 8, then Tribulation ( Acts 3:19-21; Acts 8:12; Matthew 24:14)

    Under The Law ( Matthew 5:17; Matthew 8:4; Matthew 23:2-3)

    Good works will follow salvation ( Matthew 7:15-20; 1 John 2:3-5; 1 John 2:29; 1 John 3:7,10)

    Rightly Divided From ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From "Things That DIFFER!":

    Gospel Of GRACE

    to be continued...
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Precious friend, Meaningful Questions: "does that mean I don't have to be baptized?...I don't want to do something just because everyone else does." This is A Very Good Point!

    Two things concerning "water baptized to be {or not to be} saved":

    (1) Prophecy/Law for ISRAEL: The Twelve Were Sent to water baptize!

    The TWO Main, of 12 baptisms =

    A) water, For remission of sins/induction into Israeli "priesthood!" ( Matthew 3:5-6) ( Mark 1:4) ( Luke 3:3) ( John 1:31) ( Luke 7:29-30) ( Acts 10:37) ( Matthew 28:19) ( Mark 16:16) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 22:16) ( Ezekiel 36:25) ( John 18:35) ( Exodus 19:6) +

    B) WITH The Holy Spirit, Poured Out By CHRIST, for power, signs And wonders! ( Isaiah 44:3) ( Matthew 3:11) ( Mark 1:8) ( Mark 16:17-18) ( Luke 24:49) ( Acts 2:17-18) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 8:15-17) ( Acts 11:16) Prophecy/Law

    Rightly Divided ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From Things That Differ!:

    (2) Mystery/GRACE! = our "apostle to the Gentiles" for The Body Of CHRIST: Paul Was Not Sent to {water} baptize! Why Not?:

    Today: Only ONE Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION, Spiritually Identifying members In (The ONE Body Of) CHRIST!! ( Ephesians 4:5) ( Colossians 2:12) ( Galatians 3:27) ( Romans 6:3-4) ( 1 Corinthians 12:13)

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    Thus, This ONE Baptism Is Performed, By God, Today, Under God's GRACE/MYSTERY Program, when the believer "confesses Jesus as Lord and Savior and believes that He died and rose again, and God saves them" in the twinkling of an eye.

    So, "water baptism" Is Scriptural, But Dispensationally, "was for the Previous Law/Prophecy Program" of God, For ISRAEL!

    Conclusion, water baptism is Scriptural, but, TODAY, is UNdispensational! So, Meaningful Questions, we don't do it "Because Everyone Else is" {disobeying God, In Confusion?} Amen?

    Please be Richly Encouraged, enlightened, exhorted, and edified!

    More Relevant water baptism Discussion is here: Link
  • A Hodges - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Mark 16:15 Yes
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Precious brother Chris. So glad you brought up: "'Law Administration' is difficult to comprehend when water baptism was not part of the Law to Israel (except concerning the priesthood as a ritual cleansing)." In regards to this, you may find the following "view of Israel's priesthood" Very Interesting - thanks for your careful/prayerful consideration:

    {Borrowed from my 12 baptisms "study"}: ONE of Israel's various washings! Greek: Baptismos = ( Hebrews 9:10):

    4. Levitical priesthood baptism ( Exodus 29:4) ( Leviticus 8:6) ( Numbers 8:7). This washing was The Second Requirement { The First being: "NO blemish!" ( Leviticus 21:21) }, in order to become a priest under the Law of Moses! Is this baptism in any way connected To baptism # 9?:

    9. "water" baptism of repentance that John preached (Before The Cross), And Peter continued (After The Cross!), to preach! ( Matthew 3:5-6) ( Mark 1:4) ( Luke 3:3) ( John 1:31) ( Luke 7:29-30) ( Acts 10:37) ( Matthew 28:19) ( Mark 16:16) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 22:16) ( Ezekiel 36:25).

    a) Does this baptism "save" anyone ( Luke 7:29-30?)?

    b1) Is this baptism in any way "connected" to baptism # 4?

    b2) Wasn't John preparing National Israel for God's Promise For them "to be a nation of priests unto God" ( Exodus 19:6!)?

    b3) Was not The Second Requirement for priesthood induction, Washing? { may require re-review of baptism #4! }.

    b4) Did not CHRIST And The Twelve "heal" everyone in Israel who came to them, in order to meet "The FIRST Requirement" For the priesthood, that Of "NO blemish!"? ( Matthew 4:24) ( Acts 5:16) compare: ( Leviticus 21:21)

    More questions - to be continued
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Part 2 More baptism questions for today's water adherents:

    9. "water" baptism of repentance:

    c) Is this baptism "for today"? IF this baptism is FOR US Today, we have Several More Questions:

    c1) Why does NO ONE Today, "teach, as John ( Under The LAW! ), Claimed": it is FOR "making CHRIST Manifest To Israel" ( John 1:31)?

    c2) Why does {Almost} NO ONE Today, "Confess their sins," when they come to This baptism ( Matthew 3:6) ( Mark 1:5)?

    c3) Why do not ALL Divided "denominations who WATER baptize" today, agree AS ONE, And "teach" water as John, CHRIST, And The Twelve ( Under The LAW! ), "taught" That "water baptism Is FOR The Remission Of sins!" ( Mark 1:4) ( Luke 3:3) ( Acts 2:38). { instead of each one's own "symbolic Re-Interpreted Traditions!" }?

    10. Baptism Of Anointing?: Pentecostal Spirit baptism; This is the baptism "WITH" The Holy Spirit, BY JESUS CHRIST, From Heaven, Poured Out Upon the believing remnant of Israel with signs and powers following. ( Isaiah 44:3) ( Matthew 3:11) ( Mark 1:8) ( Mark 16:17-18) ( Luke 24:49) ( Acts 2:17-18) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 8:15-17) ( Acts 11:16). And, is not THIS The THIRD Requirement For "priesthood induction" = Anointing? (compare ( Exodus 29:7) ( Leviticus 8:10-12).

    Is God Performing "This" Baptism On us TODAY?

    Conclusion: IF any water adherent, today, Under GRACE, believes he/she has been water baptized into the Israeli priesthood, is he/she Absolutely SURE he/she HAS MET The other TWO Requirements Of God? IF he/she has NOT "met them," then does THIS apply TO us TODAY?:

    God Superseded TWO baptisms, Under Law, With ONE Baptism , Under GRACE!

    Further Note: Paul, in Romans through Philemon, has NO doctrine of priesthood for The Body Of CHRIST, Under GRACE, Today...

    Exhausted by "study"? Please Be Richly Encouraged, Enlightened, Exhorted, and Edified!
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Clayton, Precious friend. Two things concerning "baptized to be saved":

    (1) Prophecy/Law for ISRAEL: The Twelve Were Sent to water baptize!

    The TWO Main, of 12 baptisms =

    A) water, For remission of sins/induction into Israeli "priesthood!" ( Matthew 3:5-6) ( Mark 1:4) ( Luke 3:3) ( John 1:31) ( Luke 7:29-30) ( Acts 10:37) ( Matthew 28:19) ( Mark 16:16) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 22:16) ( Ezekiel 36:25) ( John 18:35) ( Exodus 19:6)

    +

    B) WITH The Holy Spirit, Poured Out By CHRIST, for power, signs And wonders! ( Isaiah 44:3) ( Matthew 3:11) ( Mark 1:8) ( Mark 16:17-18) ( Luke 24:49) ( Acts 2:17-18) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 8:15-17) ( Acts 11:16)

    Prophecy/Law

    Rightly Divided ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From Things That Differ!:

    (2) Mystery/GRACE! = our "apostle to the Gentiles" for The Body Of CHRIST:

    Paul Was Not Sent to {water} baptize! Why Not?:

    Today: Only ONE Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION,

    Spiritually Identifying members In (The ONE Body Of) CHRIST!!

    ( Ephesians 4:5) ( Colossians 2:12) ( Galatians 3:27) ( Romans 6:3-4)

    ( 1 Corinthians 12:13)

    -------------------------------

    Thus, This ONE Baptism Is Performed, By God, Today, Under God's GRACE/MYSTERY Program, when the believer "confesses Jesus as Lord and Savior and believes that He died and rose again, and God saves them" in the twinkling of an eye.

    So, "water baptism" Is Scriptural, But Dispensationally, "was for the Previous Law/Prophecy Program" of God, For ISRAEL!

    Conclusion, water baptism is Scriptural, but, TODAY, is UNdispensational! Amen?

    Please be Richly Encouraged, enlightened, exhorted, and edified!
  • Gerald - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Jaden, A good question, and, I trust, a sincere one, because you do have to believe. Believe in God, believe in his Spirit, and believe in His word (The Bible) not just some of it but ALL of it even the parts you don't understand right now. Here are some scriptures to get you started(but I implore you to read the whole chapters). Mark 16:16, Luke 24:45-49, Acts 2:37-39, again I beg you to read the whole chapters and, I might add, hopefully it won't be true, you might start seeing comments on this site like; "that was for the early church", or "that doesn't pertain to us today", well who are we to pick and choose what God said? In Christ, Gerald.
  • GRACEambassador ChrisE - In Reply on Ecclesiastes 7 - 3 years ago
    Mark, Precious friend, there is NO water baptism, today, Under God's GRACE. ie:

    Does God Require water baptism, today? IF yes, then, we have to find out WHICH of the Many Various "denominational traditions" is the Correct one, Correct?

    However, IF God Says "NO," as I believe All Scripture Shows below, then "yes" is OUT of the question, yes?:

    "Summary study" on this Important Issue:

    Prophecy/Law for ISRAEL: The Twelve Were Sent to water baptize!

    The TWO Main, of 12 baptisms =

    A) water, For remission of sins/induction into Israeli "priesthood!" ( Matthew 3:5-6) ( Mark 1:4) ( Luke 3:3) ( John 1:31) ( Luke 7:29-30) ( Acts 10:37) ( Matthew 28:19) ( Mark 16:16) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 22:16) ( Ezekiel 36:25) ( John 18:35) ( Exodus 19:6)

    +

    B) WITH The Holy Spirit, Poured Out By CHRIST, for power, signs And wonders! ( Isaiah 44:3) ( Matthew 3:11) ( Mark 1:8) ( Mark 16:17-18) ( Luke 24:49) ( Acts 2:17-18) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 8:15-17) ( Acts 11:16)

    Prophecy/Law

    Rightly Divided ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From Things That Differ!:

    Mystery/GRACE! = our "apostle to the Gentiles" for The Body Of CHRIST:

    Paul Was Not Sent to {water} baptize! Why Not?:

    Today: Only ONE Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION,

    Spiritually Identifying members In (The ONE Body Of) CHRIST!!

    ( Ephesians 4:5) ( Colossians 2:12) ( Galatians 3:27) ( Romans 6:3-4)

    ( 1 Corinthians 12:13)

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Conclusion: God's ONE Baptism Today? = ONE OR, EQUALS TWO?

    Is it not Possible That God's Answer Of "No water baptism, for us Today," Under HIS Pure GRACE, absolutely vanquishes the {Many Severely DIVIDED denominations?} Confusion into oblivion!? Also, "...we walk By FAITH, Not by sight..." ( 2 Corinthians 5:7) Amen?

    Mark, Precious friend, Please be Richly Encouraged, enlightened, exhorted, and edified!
  • GRACEambassador ChrisE - In Reply on Romans 8 - 3 years ago
    Gerald, my Precious friend, I'll take your question "2: How should we be baptized?" Better

    is to first ask: Does God Require water baptism, today? IF yes, then find out "how."

    IF not, then no need to find that out, Correct? Here is my "Summary study" on this Important Issue:

    Prophecy/Law for ISRAEL: The Twelve Were Sent to water baptize!

    The TWO Main, of 12 baptisms =

    A) water, For remission of sins/induction into Israeli"priesthood!" ( Matthew 3:5-6) ( Mark 1:4) ( Luke 3:3) ( John 1:31) ( Luke 7:29-30) ( Acts 10:37) ( Matthew 28:19) ( Mark 16:16) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 22:16) ( Ezekiel 36:25) ( John 18:35) ( Exodus 19:6)

    +

    B) WITHThe Holy Spirit, Poured Out By CHRIST, for power, signs And wonders! ( Isaiah 44:3) ( Matthew 3:11) ( Mark 1:8) ( Mark 16:17-18) ( Luke 24:49) ( Acts 2:17-18) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 8:15-17) ( Acts 11:16) Prophecy/Law

    Rightly Divided ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From Things ThatDiffer!:

    Mystery/GRACE! =our "apostle to the Gentiles" for The Body Of CHRIST:

    Paul WasNot Sent to water baptize! Why Not?:

    Today: Only ONE Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION,Spiritually Identifying members Into The ONE Body Of CHRIST!! ( Ephesians 4:5) ( Colossians 2:12) ( Galatians 3:27) ( Romans 6:3-4) ( 1 Corinthians 12:13) MYSTERY/GRACE! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Conclusion: God's ONE Baptism Today? = ONEOR, EQUALS TWO?

    Is it not Possible That God'sAnswer Of "No water baptism, for us Today," Under HIS Pure GRACE, absolutely "Solves" theMany Severely DIVIDED denominations' Confusion!?

    Please be Richly Encouraged, enlightened, exhorted, and edified!
  • Dianne - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Jesse With all due respect in Gospel of John 14:10-14 Jesus Christ said those that believe in me, this is not just addressed to the apostles, after day of pentecost as Paul writes in the Church epistles we were given Christ in us and all the power that comes with the package deal. In the book of acts there were other believers than the apostles that did miracles. In Mark 16: 17-20 Jesus Christ said those that believe not Just the apostles.
  • Jesse - In Reply - 3 years ago
    NIKKIWAGGONER,

    I agree with Chris that it doesn't specifically say that the snake bit Paul. Those who were there must have thought he was bitten because they expected him to drop over dead within a few seconds.

    Whether he was bit or not, We don't know for sure. It just says the viper fastened onto his hand. I tend to lean towards him being bit. My reason for believing he was bit is because a snake will fasten on by either biting or wrapping itself around an object. Once a snake wraps itself around, it tightens up and is difficult to shake off.

    It tells us that Paul was able to shake the snake off into the fire. I tend to believe it would be easier to shake a snake off your hand if it were holding on with its fangs verses being wrapped around the hand. But this is only my reasoning. We simply don't know for sure.

    What we do know is that whether or not Paul was bit, he was unharmed.

    But this is a great teaching on Mark 16:17-18. Jesus said "And these signs shall follow them that believe. In my name shall they cast out devils, or more literally demons. They shall speak with new languages. They shall take up serpents, or snakes, and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them. They shall lay hands on the sick and they shall recover."



    Notice in Verse 18, it says they shall take up serpents, snakes. The word "take up" in the Greek is the word remove.

    So basically, Paul saw it as if a venomous snake is going to bite anybody, it's going to be me because God gave me the promise that I have got to get to Rome, and I'll get rid of the danger. He removed the danger. He cast the snake into the fire.
  • Jesse - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Dear knowing our authority,

    I just have a few questions for you. First of all, in Luke 10:19, the word hurt is the word injustice, not hurt as in physical harm. In Luke 9:1-2, we see that Jesus called His twelve disciples and gave (them) power and authority, and power to heal the sick. Does it say anywhere else that He gave the same power to all believers?

    In Mark 16:17, are the "them" and "they" not the twelve? Because we are told in Hebrews 2:2 that when the apostles went out and preached, that there were signs that followed in order to establish the apostles preaching as the gospel of God. Isn't that what he is saying in Mark 16:17?

    Last question is where you say that this power and authority only works if we believe in faith. Are you saying that if a believer commands in faith through Christ, and something does not happen, that the believer is the blame because he/she lacks faith? If so, that is not biblical. There is no such thing as a believer who is born of God's Spirit lacking faith when we fully understand the true definition of faith. No such thing!
  • We must learn this to protect others and pray for them - 3 years ago
    Knowing our authority

    To pray for our loved ones we need to come against the enemy and pray that they would receive the truth. To come against the enemy, we need to first know what our power and authority is in Jesus.

    Behold, I give unto you authority to tread over ALL the power of the enemy; and nothing shall by any means hurt you ( Luke 10:19). Authority is delegated power.

    Then he called his twelve disciples together, and gave them power and authority over all devils, and to cure diseases. And he sent them to preach the kingdom of God, and to heal the sick ( Luke 9:1, 2).

    For the Son of Man is as a man taking a far journey, who left his house, and gave authority to his servants ( Mark 13:34).

    In my name shall they cast out devils ( Mark 16:17).

    What power and authority do these four verses say that Christ gave us? He gave us "All power and authority" over the enemy. Christ has given us His power and authority over Satan and his kingdom. However, it only works if we believe in faith and command in faith through Christ. When we come against Satan in faith, in the name of Jesus, Satan must obey. If you do not believe, if you have little faith, Satan knows, and will not listen to you. While Satan may not obey us, he must obey the authority of Jesus that we have been given and that we are operating in.

    And who are we that Christ should give us such authority? you are a son (daughter); and since you are a son, God has made you also an heir ( Gal 4:7).

    Comment: it is the authority Christ imparted to us, that we use to subdue enemies and cast their invisible selves into dry places of outer darkness. Never to return! Ephesians 6.
  • Adam - In Reply on John 1 - 3 years ago
    Hi Joyce,

    Your question was if some people believe that. You probably already know the answer is yes. But maybe your real question is it a requirement to be baptized to enter heaven? If that is your question I have a response.

    My main question is why wouldn't you want to be baptized? What's the real reason for wanting to disobey Jesus? If someone is looking to only do the bare minimum in order to "make it to heaven", one might wonder if that person is a real Christian. God wants all of us- to love the Lord with all our heart, all our mind, all our strength. If someone is mostly interested in following the world, but wants to just cut corners and do whatever they assume is the bare minimum, I personally would not feel much assurance of salvation. Jesus clearly said to be baptized, so if someone disregards Jesus's words, it seems like slapping him in his face, as that person thinks they know better than Jesus.

    Here's the verse where Jesus says to be baptized: Mark 16:16

    Acts 2:38 clearly says to be baptized also. If it wasn't important, they wouldn't have said to do it, but they did say to do it. So, aside from a physical disability, if someone doesn't want to do it for whatever reason, is following Jesus very important to them? It reveals someone's priorities. Matthew 6:21 - All will be judged fairly and I think some will be surprised on judgment day: Matthew 10:33. God bless...
  • Tim - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Jesse,

    That's great to hear. Please do not fall for the lie that reciting a prayer will somehow grant you salvation. PLEASE study your bible and find a church who teaches what you learned, if what they teach cannot be found in the bible find a new church. To help you on your journey of learning "What must I do to be saved" please start with the following: We must hear him Matthew 7:25-25, We must believe in him John 6:47, We must confess him Matthew 10:32, We must repent or our sins Luke 13:3, We must be baptized Mark 16:16 & we must remain faithful Mathew 24:13. God bless!!!
  • D W L on Mark 16:15 - 3 years ago
    We must be ready when Jesus comes.

    I supposed It would be hard to tell some people who are giving their lives today for the Lord Jesus that these things aren't going to happen until after the rapture. Many in other countries are dying for their faith in Jesus.
  • Rachael on Mark 16 - 3 years ago
    this was told to a congregation, god showed me 2 women and say choose. how possible could this be, since our father knows the plans he has for us. he know who he wants for us he know the right mate. i believe the person was talking in the flesh however could you shed light on this since the person saying it is the person god showed to someone as there mate, and the connection is strong. and the person is not of the same race he says, i know we only have one race but that is what was said


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