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Jesus didn't want His miracles to be sensationalized or overshadow His message of salvation.

I've always thought it was because there were numerous Old Testament prophesies that we're to be fulfilled in his 3 years of ministry that led to the Cross.

Judas's betrayal was a prophesy.

There are charts on Google that list the prophesy scriptures, and on the other side, the scriptures of when Jesus fulfilled them. The odds of one person doing that, is beyond the number of stars in our galaxy. Incomprehensible.

Why did Jesus not want people to know what he had done.

Earl,

The word torment used in the parable of the rich man and Lazarus is the Greek word BASANOIS. The meaning from Greek to English would pretty much be the same as what we would understand torment to be. Whether it is mental anguish or physical torment, I think it can be both. It seemed to be both for the rich man. He seemed to be in a state of mental torment knowing that his family members (brothers) would soon be in this same place unless someone went to warn them. We also know that he was in physical torment, wanting the tip of his tongue to be cooled. Can you imagine that? Here is a man in physical torment and all he asks is for the tip of his tongue to be cooled. He didn't ask for someone to throw him a rope so he could get out!

We also know that there is a place of eternal torment called the lake of fire. To tell you how the word torment is used in other verses would take a tremendous amount of time and space. That's a huge favor. I don't mind sharing my understanding with you but I'm not sure I want to tackle that one. The short answer is that the word torment means pretty much the same in English as it does in Greek.

For the rich man in Hades, he's still in torment. One day he will be released, judged at the Great White Throne Judgement, and then cast into the lake of fire, a place of eternal torment.

Sorry I couldn't give you more. If you want the verses to look them up, here are the ones I found:

Matthew 8:29, Mark 5:7, Luke 8:28, Luke 16:28, 1 John 4:18, Revelation 9:5, Revelation 14:11, Revelation 18:7, Revelation 18:10, Revelation 18:15

Dear Trigo,

Prayer is POWERFUL Your prayers can be instrumental in your parents being born-again and the healing of their bodies.

SALVATION - John 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. Romans 10:9-10 "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation." Confess your sins to Jesus Christ, repent, and believe in your heart that he has saved you. He will give you a new heart and a new life in Him. Ezekiel 36:26 "A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh."

HEALING - I've had miracles in my own life. Almost four years ago, I couldn't walk due to an illness. Friends and family prayed. And not long after, I just got up and walked. My great-nephew was so sick in the womb that doctors advised abortion, but his mother refused. Family and friends prayed. And the symptoms left that child. And he was born healthy and thrives today at four years old. God is on the throne. He hears prayer. God can heal immediately Matthew 8:13 or after a period of time Mark 5:5. Remember, Jesus is the same yesterday, today, and forever. What He did while He walked the earth, he can do sitting at the right hand of God in Heaven. God bless.

Brother Earl.

I believe prince of Tyrus, used in Ezekiel 28:2. he's talking to the king of Tyrus. "The ruler of Tyrus"

But in Ezekiel 28:12-19. He addresses him King of Tyrus and broadens his indictment and put him in places he has never been. I believe he's talking to the source behind the king of Tyrus. Carefully go through the verses.

Examples:

Here you see the Lord talking to the unclean spirits in a man.

Mark 5:7-9. And cried with a loud voice, and said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of the most high God? I adjure thee by God, that thou torment me not.

For he said unto him, Come out of the man, thou unclean spirit.

And he asked him, What is thy name? And he answered, saying, My name is Legion: for we are many.

Here's a link to scripture where Gabriel is fighting with Demonic forces of Persia. and next Grecia.

Daniel 10:13-21.

Hello Joanne. Matthew 15:24: "But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel."

Jesus had gone to the coastal towns of Tyre & Sidon which are in Phoenicia. He went to minister to the Jews there (you might remember that the tribe of Asher had inherited some of that portion of the Land of Canaan back in the days of Joshua). So, we're not told what type of ministry Jesus was already doing there, when a Canaanitish woman approached Him to heal her demon-possessed daughter. Jesus didn't want to expand His Work to all people, so initially He refused her, saying that His Mission was to "the lost sheep of Israel", or the Jews who were perishing/in darkness for lack of Truth. Some could interpret Jesus' phrase as 'to the Jews who were scattered in these far off parts', but I think the emphasis on their 'spiritual needs' was what Jesus was referring to here. If Jesse sees this, he could clarify it better than me.

But because of this woman's great faith, Jesus just gave the Word of healing, for we read that her daughter was healed in that hour, or in that moment. And Jesus did touch the lives of non-Jews from time to time (e.g. you can look up Matthew 8:5-13; John 4:1-42; Mark 5:1-17) but His Mission was primarily to the "lost sheep of Israel".

Right this second, the most important thing your brother needs--above and beyond a cancer cure--if he has not been born again, he needs to take Jesus Christ as his personal Savior.

John 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. Romans 10:9-10 "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation." Confess your sins to Jesus Christ, repent, and believe in your heart that he has saved you. He will give you a new heart and a new life in Him. Ezekiel 36:26 "A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh."

If he is already a born-again Christian, he has nothing to fear. 2 Corinthians 5:8 "We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord."

Pray that the cancer and its symptoms leave him in Jesus's name. Prayer is POWERFUL I've had miracles in my own life. Almost four years ago, I couldn't walk due to an illness. Friends and family prayed. And not long after, I just got up and walked. My great-nephew was so sick in the womb that doctors advised abortion, but his mother refused. Family and friends prayed. And the symptoms left that child. And he was born healthy and thrives today at four years old. God is on the throne. He hears prayer. God can heal immediately Matthew 8:13 or after a period of time Mark 5:5. Remember, Jesus is the same yesterday, today, and forever. What He did while He walked the earth, he can do sitting at the right hand of God in Heaven. God bless.

The important thing is the devils were gone. The man was set FREE that is what has to happen if we are to serve Jesus. When the devils are gone we can be at peace, sit down and will put on clothes.

Mark 5:15 And they come to Jesus, and see him that was possessed with the devil, and had the legion, sitting, and clothed, and in his right mind: and they were afraid.

Praise the Lord! Nancy,

I am sorry for the emotional trauma you and your family are going through and my prayers are with you.

Jeremiah 32:27 Behold, I am the LORD, the God of all flesh: is there any thing too hard for me?

Ruler of the synagogue, Jairus asked Jesus Christ to heal his little girl and he did. Mark 5:23 And besought him greatly, saying, My little daughter lieth at the point of death: I pray thee, come and lay thy hands on her, that she may be healed; and she shall live.

I have been listening and learning from youtube-Honest News Network Brother Joseph Skinner and it has helped me to understand it is all in hand of Jesus Christ .

I have been dealing with trauma of loss and depression and when I gave it all to Jesus Christ he mended my broken heart and gave me the joy and peace beyond measure and he can do it for you. Romans 2:11 For there is no respect of persons with God.

God bless you and may the Lord keep you safe under his wings of safety Psalms 17:8

Praise the Lord! Sandra, Yes we are in a difficult time but don't lose hope and be encouraged, Jesus Christ loves you and alive and everywhere and not only found in a church building so you can have praise and worship with the Lord in your home.

Acts chapter 2:4 is regarding speaking in tongue and have been listening and learning on youtube-honest news network, Brother Skinner and there are so many lessons on there and it has helped me to grow in the Lord.

There is nothing too hard for God, Mark 5:25 and Isaiah 53:5 regarding healing.

God bless you and may the Lord keep you safe under his wings Psalms 17:8.

Jeanette,

To redeem means to purchase. We see in Romans 3:24 that those who are saved have been justified by the grace of God through the redemption in Christ Jesus. The word redemption means to purchase a slave out of the marketplace for the purpose of setting him free.

So Jesus purchased us from out of the marketplace of the world, where we were once the slave to sin, and He has set us free. We are now His possession. We belong to Christ. Right now, it is like we are sitting at the "will call" booth waiting for the one who purchased us to come to pick us up. Hopefully, that day will be soon!

Jeanette, may the Spirit grace you with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

Romans 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, SOLD under sin.

We were naturally born flesh and blood; but a body of flesh and blood cannot obtain the spiritual world (the likeness of Christ). Christ came in the likeness of us (sinful flesh) to REDEEM (exchange our body of flesh for his body of GLORY or a glorified body).

Romans 8:6 To be carnally minded (unbelief) is DEATH; but to be spiritually minded (believing) is life (you never die you just change bodies; you are glorified with Christ, you are REDEEMED.

John 17:21-22

All this was made possible by HIS WORK ON THE CROSS AND HIS RESURRECTION. He was made like you so that you and him could die together and you and him could be resurrected together; now in THE LIKENESS OF CHRIST to live a life without sin (love God above all and your brothers and enemies as yourself)

Romans 8:29

i love to read the bible. god is always good. what does redeem means

Thanks, Richard,

I'll have to remember not to put the comma in when using numbers. One time I had typed a person's name correctly at the beginning of a reply, and before I hit the submit button, it changed the name to something else. I can't remember who I was responding to but it changed the name to Hillary, which wasn't even close to the person's name nor what I typed. That would have been embarrassing!

I noticed that also on a post Jesse. When I posted about certain numbers of words changed, or deleted, from the Bible it went from thousands to just the single digit. It seems the comma does that.

Thanks, Chris,

It's interesting about Gadara being the center of pagan and demonic worship in that region. It was the most active place in the inhabitable world back then for demonic activity and worship. In their demon worship, they sacrificed pigs. I used to wonder why those pigs were there.

The demonic man cutting himself with stones is interesting. He wasn't just doing that because he was under a demonic spirit and trying to destroy himself. That was part of the pagan worship. You cut yourself, and you offer the blood to the demons. What an awful circumstance!

I would say that this is in the category of this man can't help himself. And Mark has told us that nobody else can help him either. It is beyond human ability. But it seems that the demons in this man cause him to come and just fall right before Jesus. The demons weren't worshipping. They were acknowledging that they were in the presence of God.

The confession of the demon speaking through the man in Mark 5:7, "What have we to do with you?" In other words, we have nothing in common! Notice the confession: "Jesus, thou Son of the most high God." They make the proper confession. They confess the truth about who Jesus is, they know who He is, but it doesn't save them!

Verse 10, the demon appealed to Jesus not to send them away out of the country because it was the center of demonic activity and they didn't want to go anywhere else. This is where all the action is. The demon didn't want to leave. He says "Don't send us out of the country!"

These people that lost their whole herd of swine come and see the man that was possessed who is now in his right mind. Mark 5:15 says they were afraid. You can see why. They weren't afraid because of what they saw. They weren't real happy about all this "deliverance" going on. They were afraid because of what's going to happen to their demon worship? They were afraid of Jesus because Verse 17 says they appealed to Jesus to depart from their coasts. Very interesting!

That was a timely clarification brother. I thought to myself, 'surely this can't be our dear brother Jesse writing the figure 6 instead of the actual greater number'. And that was interesting to note that those swine were raised primarily for devilish sacrifices & the connection with the demons desiring to inhabit the swine. Thank you.

Penny Bell,

I typed six thousand in my post. I am not sure why this website changed it to six. But where you see 6 soldiers, it is supposed to read six thousand soldiers. Also, it should read six thousand demons, not six. Maybe the website didn't like the comma after the six with three zeros, I'm not sure? Anyways, I wanted to point that out because I do not want to be misleading on the word legion.

Penny Bell,

A legion refers to 6,000 soldiers. This man in Mark Chapter 5 had 6,000 demons. And it was those demons that asked that if Jesus was to cast them out of the man that they would be allowed to enter into the herd of swine.

Now here is something interesting to know. These are a special kind of pig. They raised these pigs, and they were all black pigs, and they used them for demonic sacrifice.



If you study through the history of the Jews, you'll find that down through the history, when Antiochus Epiphanies came in and actually desecrated, or defiled the temple, he sacrificed a pig on the altar.



Leviticus Chapter 7 Verse 11 says that the pig is unclean to the Jews. But these are not Jews. These are Gentiles, and they are demon worshipers. And they raised these pigs for their worship.

So it is interesting and it sort of gives you an indication as to why these demons would ask permission to enter those pigs, and why Jesus allowed it!

What is your opinion regarding the term "legion" as specified in this chapter. I have looked up the term and it states that a legion at the time was 5 to 6 thousand. I read here that 2 thousand swine perished in the sea. I have noticed this as many times as I have read this chapter that I firmly after reading it again, this poor man had at least 2000 demons in him. While that may seem impossible to some, why would so many have perished in the sea if the demons had not taken them there? It's not important in the over all scheme of things but I do find it an interesting discussion. thanks for your imput.

Hello Christina,

Here are a couple verses for you: Matthew 8:16, Matthew 8:28-32, Matthew 9:32-33, Mark 1:23-26, Mark 1:34,

Mark 1:39, Mark 5:2-13, Mark 7:25-30, Luke 4:33-36, Luke 4:41, Luke 11:14.

Some may be of the same account just a different book.

God Bless.

Mark 5: 43. He commanded them strictly that no one should know it,

Why Jesus told them not to tell anyone? Is it because, of His purpose of timeline or the timing need to follow God's way to reach his mission by cross. or. Allow us to believe in him cuz of our sins..

What if he allowed for the to disclose it... then. people will continue to seek him...which might have slowed him down?

Simply put Faith is something you believe in without a doubt. example, when you sit in a chair that you have never sat in before, do you check it out to make sure that it is safe or do you just sit in it, trusting that it was built to hold a human weight. This, to me would be an example of Faith that it was built to be safe. Or when you see a little child and see the trust they have in their parents to protect and nourish them, this is another example of Faith. Throughout the NT there are many examples of Faith, John 20:25 Thomas who just spent 3 years with Jesus, but had doubt on His resurrection, until Jesus showed himself to him, Mark 5:25-34 is of a woman who had an issue of blood, and believed, and she was healed. Matthew 8:10 the Roman centurion believed and his servant was healed. Likewise as Christians we need to believe that Jesus death and resurrection on the cross is the only way to our salvation. Hebrews chapter 11 Paul explains faith in great detail, Matthew 18:3 tells us to become and believe as a child. I hope this helps.

John 20:25 "The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe."

Mark 5:25 And a certain woman, which had an issue of blood twelve years, 27 When she had heard of Jesus, came in the press behind, and touched his garment. 28 For she said, If I may touch but his clothes, I shall be whole. 29 And straightway the fountain of her blood was dried up; and she felt in her body that she was healed of that plague. Mark 5:34 "And he said unto her, Daughter, thy faith hath made thee whole; go in peace, and be whole of thy plague."

Matthew 8:10 "When Jesus heard it, he marvelled, and said to them that followed, Verily I say unto you, I have not found so great faith, no, not in Israel."

christ let his son die on the cross, How do I praise God and not asking anything,?. How do i praise god Holy name?

In Mark 5:1-17, we read of the account of the demon-possessed man, who was released from that evil possession. In that release, the demons needed to be physically cast into other living creatures, or else they would roam free to possess others, & so Jesus had commanded them to leave the man & to possess the swine. Of course, the swine began to exhibit the strange behaviour that comes with demonic possession, & began their wild run which saw them eventually drown into the sea.

So the herders of the swine, witnessing all this, also ran off & reported this to the townsfolk. So they told them about how the demon-possessed man was freed & how their swine subsequently perished. So the people were not concerned about the swine - they simply listened to the account by the herders concerning the man & the swine. The herders, of course, would have had to break the bad news to the owners of the swine, as to why the whole herd perished. We're not told about their fate & whether they still had their jobs after all this.

In Mark 5:16 why were the people also concerned for the swine of pigs?

Mark 5:34

"And he said unto her, Daughter, thy faith hath made thee whole; go in peace, and be whole of thy plague."

Luke 17:19

"And he said unto him, Arise, go thy way: thy faith hath made thee whole.

For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation

James 1:8

"A double minded man is unstable in all his ways."

Hebrews 10:38

King James Version

38 Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him.

To FRED SCANLAN

Please remember that the sons of God have come for the pulling down of this world's 'Strongholds', religion being the strongest of them all ( 2 Cor. 10:4; Luke 11:21-23).

When it comes to the Medical Profession, please know that the believers live by faith, as the true and living God of Abraham, Isaac & Jacob is their guide in all things. Remember how God took care of a host of 2m people for forty years. He fed them and provided them with water and other essentials. Even their shoes and garments didn't wear out. Also remember that out of the original group that crossed the Red Sea only Joshua & Caleb crossed the Jordan River. All the rest died in the wilderness, while only the new generation crossed the Jordan.

Rather than speaking from personal experience, we believe that the most effective way to be taught and to come to the understanding of 'The Chastening of the Lord' is by the Word of God itself

CHASTENING

Deut. 8:5

Job 5:17-19; 6:1-10; 23:10; 33:19

Psalms 6:1-10; 17:3; 30:1-12; 38:1-21; 94:12-14; 102:1-28; 116:1-19; 119:7,67,71

Proverbs 3:11

Isaiah 26:16

1 Cor. 11:32

Hebrews 12:5,6

James 1:12

1 Peter 1:7

Rev. 3:15-21

AFFLICTIONS

Psalms 34:19; 132:1

Isaiah 48:10

Acts 7:10; 20:23

2 Cor. 6:4

Col. 1:24

1 Thess 3:3

Hebrews 12:5-12

Rev. 3:18

SICKNESS AND HEALING

Exodus 15:26

Psalm 6:2

Isaiah 30:26

Jer. 30:17

Eze. 34:16

Hosea 6:1

Mal. 4:2

Matthew 10:8

Mark 2:17

Luke 5:31

James 5:15

1 Peter 2:24

Rev. 22:2

RELYING ON DOCTORS AND MEDICINE



2 Chr. 16:12,13

Job 13:4

Psalms 34:19; 108:12

Isaiah 30:1-3

Jer. 17:5-7,14

Hosea 5:13

Mark 5:25-29

Luke 8:43

MADE PERFECT THROUGH SUFFERING

Job 5:18; 23:10

Psalms 50:5; 119:67,71

Isaiah 48:10

Jer. 31:18

Hosea 5:15; 6:1

Romans 8:17

2 Cor. 4:17

Hebrews 2:10; 5:7-9; 12:10,11

1 Peter 4:1,12; 5:1,9,10

Rev. 3:19

Seek, and ye shall find ( Matthew 7:7).

In His Service.

Andy & Dianne van den Berg - Nova Scotia, Canada

To JOEL OSTEEN

So, you want us to stop posting our message of Repentance, which is according to the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive ( John 14:17). The emphasis on the word 'cannot'. Legion also wanted to be left alone ( Mark 5:9; Luke 8:30). In summary our message remains the same: Ye must repent.

The Baptism of Repentance is the key principle of all the teachings of Jesus Christ and the axiom (basis) of the Word of God and a prerequisite and primary requirement for the salvation of mankind. It actually means the changing of spirits - to turn from darkness to light and from the power of Satan unto God ( Acts 26:18).

For a better understanding and the 'spiritual truth' of what it means to repent, and learn how and by whom mankind has been deceived ( Rev. 12:9) and what people must do to be reunited with the true and living God, we invite you to seek Him according to the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive ( Matthew 7:7; John 14:17). The emphasis again on the word 'cannot'.

You need not that any man teach you ( Isaiah 54:13; 6:45; 1 John 2:27), as mankind follows after an image of a false god and a false Christ ( Matthew 24:24; Mark 13:22; Gal. 4:8; 2 Cor. 11:13-15; Rev. 12:9).

It is only by revelation of God that people will come to know the true Christ ( Daniel 12:4,9; Amos 3:7; Matthew 16:17; Luke 2:26; Romans 16:25; 1 Cor. 2:10; Gal. 1:16; Eph. 3:3,5; Rev. 1:1), and only then will you be able to overcome the spirit of this world ( 1 John 5:4; Rev. 3:21) and learn what 'True Repentance' means, and how this whole world has been deceived ( Rev. 12:9). It should also be remembered that it is a narrow way that leadeth unto 'Life', and few there be that find it ( Matthew 7:14).

LUKE 15:10. LIKEWISE, I SAY UNTO YOU, THERE IS JOY IN THE PRESENCE OF THE ANGELS OF GOD OVER ONE SINNER THAT REPENTETH.