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Grace is for the here and now. To get us by as we come into the full knowledge of His Truth. Grace is not so we can do as we think to do without any discipline from the Almighty. When we contemplate suicide we are removing Him from the throne and we sit in His place. No, Suicide is never a good thing and IMHO is not forgivable because you have just ended His reign in your life and taken on the authority we do not have.

But hey, do what you "FEEL" good about cuz that is the way of the "new" church.

In the question of how many disciples did Yeshua have, it is well over 70 if you READ the WORD instead of being "taught" it by jack legged preachers looking to change the WORD for their own benefit. There were only 12 He called to be Apostles at that time. But He sent out 70 others.

I am so sorry to hear about your situation, it is very sad. But keep on praying. You have the right approach to not fight yourself, but let God do the fighting for you.

Romans 8:31 "What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?"

1 John 4:4 "Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world."

God bless.

Good morning brother,

Truly no one knows the exact time of the "end" except our Father in Heaven. Though we must be vigilant in what is going on in the world around us. I would say things are getting quite Biblical/historical.

As you stated what is most important for us is to keep our faith in the Lord. Focus on Him with a pure heart. To be ready for Him at the time we least expect. As any of us could die/be killed at any moment which to me can be paralleled to the coming of the Lord. Weather we are to be here to see the end, or not, to me does not really make much difference. The Lord is everything to me. As everything in this world is vanity.

Matthew 10:34-38. Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

He that loveth father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me.

And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after Me, is not worthy of Me.

Matthew 24:42-51.

Luke 9:60-62. Jesus said unto him, Let the dead bury their dead: but go thou and preach the kingdom of God.

And another also said, Lord, I will follow thee; but let me first go bid them farewell, which are at home at my house.

And Jesus said unto him, No man, having put his hand to the plough, and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God.

The devil is very cunning and crafty. It may not be as easy to spot certain things, of the end, as some perceive it. We are living in times like never before. I myself see this shot as "them" trying to corrupt the flesh of people. Why God flooded the world in the time of Noah. Only God knows if I'm right or wrong. The truth shall come to light one day.

God Bless you my brother. Have a wonderful day.

Please say a prayer for my two sons n wife who are badly addicted to drugs and alcohol and for my 4 year old grandson n his mom who are trapped in a home where the drugs are all around them and my grandson is being exploited and exposed. I tried to stay in there as a husband dad n grandpa but I started to fall to what I used to be and that's a addict with them. I was taunted by all of them and enabling and spear heading the home is my wife. I feel the devil in that home and I witnessed first hand one day by myself a series of physical noises and my dogs crying out n scared. I finally broke and fought with my son after I was ordered out of the home. No a very bad restraint order put on me and lots of lies and stories applied. Please pray because I feel the spirit of drugs n evil have taken over them. I love them very much and know that it's the spirit not the person that gets in the mind and soul. So I continue to live in a motel and await the hearing set. I refuse to battle them on there level but to choose god to help me. I don't like to fight and that night I think the spirit got into me. For the sake of my grandson n everyone there I ask for god to take control n his angles to battle for me. I love my family with all my heart n hur5 for them as they curse me. Thank you Godbless u all.

pray for marital settlement , i am so unhappy in my marriage , feel cheated and used , i pray God heal my pain and guide me

I humbly ask that my wife's childhood friend be mentioned in everyone's prays (Shirley). She is very dedicated Christian. Shirley has cancer: stage four. Thank God that she finally had the hospital to stop the bleeding at UC Davis. Now, she waits for her immunity to build up to get chemo. Latest report that the cancer has spread. She had a clean bill of health last year but on her birthday, the doctor informed her that the cancer was back. Shirley has taught us about her journey: never losing faith and always walking in troubled times with the LORD: in Valley of the shadow of death ( Psalm 23).

Hello,

I feel to reply to your post and expand to what Carleton stated. In this wicked world we live in one of the most important questions we, those who follow Christ, can ask ourselves when a situation occurs is "what would Jesus Christ do"?

It is right that the truth be spread and exposed. What is right and wrong. A big problem is the evil powers of this world own pretty much everything to do with mass communication. T.V., radio, internet, schools, etc and many people are brainwashed and deceived. Only a very small portion can be trusted to follow truth in whatever way. Although the devil mixes lies with truth to make it even harder for people to denote one from the other.

As I have been following what has been going on with the powers that be in the world for probably the last decade. Violence and fighting physically accomplishes nothing but more violence and blood shed. What the evil one wants. People to destroy themselves, by dividing them in any way, for their gain.

We, who follow Christ, are to live in peace. To turn the other cheek. To love and have mercy even on our enemies. Who I do not see as any other "person". It is the devil and the evil powers that be who control people in this world. That is what/who I hate. Not people. As I feel sorrow that they are being led to damnation. Hoping, and praying, one day in their lives they shall see the light and give themselves to the Lord. One more repentant sinner who has been saved.

Here are a couple verses from the OT and NT for you. With Romans 12:21. Reading Romans 12:17-21 gives a better view. Fear not those who can destroy the body, but Him who can destroy both body and soul in Gehenna/Hell.

Matthew 10:27-28.

Ecclesiastes 5:8

Micah 6:8

Matthew 5:39-45

Ephesians 6:11-17

They that take the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52.

Jesus Christ is the only way. Not fighting for this, or any, "country". "Vengeance is mine, I will repay, saith the Lord."

With respect. God Bless.

The devil is at work my brothers and sisters in Christ. Coming in sheep's clothing.

"Be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life".

Matthew 10:22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

( 2 Timothy 2:12 If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:

Hebrews 3:14 For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;

Matthew 11:15 He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.

OnlytruthintheworldKJV, I do not understand the latter part of your post maybe that's me. My post was on the 7-year rapture theory using the last week of the 70th-week prophecy to create 7 years. My meaning was no part of that prophecy should be combined with Revelation. There is a lot that was fulfilled during those 70 weeks. More than can be covered in a small post. As far as the temple I have not found any scriptures that say there will be another before Jesus sets his kingdom upon the earth but there could be. If you read ( Revelation 21:22) The holy city, New Jerusalem there is no temple.

Jesus was sent only for the lost sheep of Israel and Jesus commanded his disciple to only go to the lost sheep and not to go unto the Gentiles.

Matthew 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Matthew 10:5-7 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: 6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.7 And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.

They did not until Peters dream and Jesus appeared to Paul, around the same time Stephen was killed. That ended the 70th-week. If you read ( Matthew 23:31-38) it shows who made it desolate and the temple was destroyed 30+ years later in their generation, by the people of the prince, Rome. When Jesus was talking to the woman at the well he talks about this happening. ( John 4:21-24).

God bless, Ron

Hey Darren, thanks for answering back, we do agree on the 7 years of tribulation is 3 years or 42 months. You may agree or not, this starts when Satan is cast out in Revelation 12. Many think Satan was cast out long ago but we see in Job he still has access to heaven, in Rev. 12 we see he no longer has access to heaven and they are rejoicing in heaven. Satan (dragon) then gives his power, and his seat, and great authority to the beast, then the great tribulation starts. I'm sorry I don't know where the thousands of years come from.

Back to Daniel in vs. 27 "And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate." The he does not change. The same he that shall confirm is the same he shall make it desolate, the scriptures show this is Jesus not a antichrist.

When Jesus was crucified on the cross He caused the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, (the old Levitical covenant animal sacrifices) because Jesus is the final sacrifice. Matthew 23:37-38 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! 38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.

Jesus through his disciples He confirmed for the second half of the week. Matthew 10:5-7 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: 6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.7 And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand. The 70 weeks ended when Peter had his dream and Paul was sent out.

I would like to continue with this if we both agree to study and be open to the truth. Ron

Brothers Jesse and Bob, I believe you are wrong concerning this matter. Here's why.

1. Jesus supersedes anything from the Old Testament.

2. Jesus in Luke 22:36 Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. What else does Chapter 22 say concerning purchasing a sword? Luke 22:8 And they said, Lord, behold, here are two swords. And he said unto them, It is enough. Who goes to war with 2 swords? No, the purpose of buying the swords was to fulfill Mark 14:47 = And one of them that stood by drew a sword, and smote a servant of the high priest, and cut off his ear. And Luke 22:49-51 = When they which were about him saw what would follow, they said unto him, Lord, shall we smite with the sword? And one of them smote the servant of the high priest, and cut off his right ear. And Jesus answered and said, Suffer ye thus far. And he touched his ear, and healed him. They needed the two swords to fulfill the other verses.

3. I'd also like to point out Matthew 26:52 = Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.

The time is quickly coming where this is going to be a serious issue for Christians. You will be asked to decide between your faith and the death of your family. You must choose your faith. Jesus even said so - Matthew 10:37 =

He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. This is where the road narrows and many Christians will fail because they are unprepared.

Revelation 13:10 ... he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword ...

Perhaps someone can tell me when Jesus advocated violence. Except for the money changers in the temple, you can't. You can't because it never happened. You see, Jesus was a pacifist.

Acts 2:38, according to Matthew 10:5-7 is for the Lost sheep of the house of Israel; and first Corinthians 15: verse 3, and 4, are for the Gentiles. Take a look, and let me know what you think.

thank you for your kindness, I still fighting for hope and improve myself everyday.

There is therefor now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. This is from my memory of Romans chapter 8.

You are under the protection and guidance of the Holy Spirit. Ask for the Holy Spirit to lead you each day.

r

Could I be forbidden if I really hurt God by pure ignorance and realise was the ultimate attack on his spirit which I was deceived in a big way thinking that I was doing good for the world but was evil against his creation and teachings. No longer support the sin a changed my mind, I'm a shame of it but I would like to restore my soul with the help of the father and his spirit so I could gain his love with a new conscience in my live because without him I'm lost, please forgive me you are my everything and I will change, I would like to meet your second coming Jesus Christ my saviour and be baptised, amen.

Helen, may the Spirit grace you with HIS wisdom and His understanding. Keep studying God's word, you may think you can't remember everything; and if called upon you are concerned you would fall short of the task. You want fall short of the task because God's word says:

Matthew 10:20 For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of the Father which speaketh in you.

Our first objective is to agree with the Spirit. WE ARE THE POT AND HE IS THE POTTER.

Sometimes the POT was created just to be seen, your actions more often speak louder than your words.

However the POTTER uses us is at his discretion not ours, but he will provide all you need to fulfil his desires.

Jesus told his disciples he was sent to be a servant, isn't it wonderful that Jesus does all things or us.

John 15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches:....... without me you can do nothing.

Isaiah 30:7 .....Their strength is to sit (like a pot on the wheel) still.

Exodus 14:13 And Moses said unto the people, fear ye not, stand and BEHOLD THE SALVATION OF THE LORD.......

Our problem is WE KEEP GETTING OF THE POTTERS WHEEL.

GBU

I am interested in your thoughts on 'hell'. You said, "that Hell does not exist in Hebrew, Aramaic, or Latin". So if you read Psalm 16:10 & Psalm 139:8 which, of course mentions 'hell', what Hebrew word, in your studies, is applicable there. I understand it as 'sheol', but you may have another word or meaning for it.

Then in the NT, we have Matthew 10:28 & Luke 16:23, where the word for 'hell', is understood to be 'geenne', or Gehenna in Matthew, and 'ade' or Hades, in Luke's reference. I see that all of these references (OT & NT) depict a place & state of suffering. And if these are translated from the original manuscripts, I would be interested to learn what you are reading, the words used & the manuscripts they are derived from, as this can be very perplexing to us who are confined to the Bibles we have now.

And as a result of this, what is your understanding of a place of eternal suffering for the wicked: whether such a state even exists of which the Bible declares.

Matthew 10:32

Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.

Luke 12:8

Also I say unto you, Whosoever shall confess me before men, him shall the Son of man also confess before the angels of God:

Romans 10:9

That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

1 John 4:15

Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.

John 12:42

Nevertheless among the chief rulers also many believed on him; but because of the Pharisees they did not confess him, lest they should be put out of the synagogue:

Romans 14:11

For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.

Philippians 2:11

And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

2 John 1:7

For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

Revelation 3:5

He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

Romans 15:9

And that the Gentiles might glorify God for his mercy; as it is written, For this cause I will confess to thee among the Gentiles, and sing unto thy name.

John 9:22

These words spake his parents, because they feared the Jews: for the Jews had agreed already, that if any man did confess that he was Christ, he should be put out of the synagogue.

1 John 1:9

If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

Diane, I'm unsure where your question is leading to, but to answer simply: the disciples of Jesus ( Matthew 10:1-4) later were referred to as apostles. A disciple essentially is a student, particularly to a Master, Rabbi, etc. where in his 'raw' state is brought into further knowledge of the prescribed Truth & by the witness of the life of the Master. An apostle is "a sent out one" or a messenger, who then takes what he has learned to teach others also & in the case of Christ's apostles, to deliver the life-saving, life-changing Gospel.

You asked, "In the apostalic line where is paul peter john james luke ?" Peter, John, James & another 9 were disciples & apostles, with Paul coming later, "as one born out of due time" ( 1 Corinthians 15:8). Then folk such as Luke & most likely others who were not part of the 'inner circle' (the 12), were also 'ad hoc' disciples who doubtless pursued their careers but spent time with the Lord to learn of Him. So when the last of the apostles (John) died, the apostolic line ended, though in a sense, an apostolic work can & does continue today, as we who have also learned from the Lord, the writings of the apostles & the sages of our time, can confidently go out & share what we have learned. Of course, without having the privilege of having the apostles around to question them further on doctrines, etc., our Churches & indeed, our beliefs, will always remain divergent, e.g. on the Trinity, the Second Coming, Law & Grace, etc.

As for your question, let me reassure you that suicide is not an unforgivable sin. Therefore, IF a true believer commits suicide, though their life ended with a sin under tragic circumstances, they are still saved by the blood of Christ. The grace of God through the death and resurrection of Christ covers all sins past, present, and future. A sin that ends your life is no more potent than one that doesn't. God's grace is more powerful and covers it all. So, rest assured that __is in the presence of the Lord. The apostle Paul is clear on this in Philippians 1:21-23. He says that when we depart from the body (death) we are then with Christ. This goes for all Believers, not just ones that didn't commit suicide.

Is suicide a sin ?

Hello, I believe these verses explain and provide the answer to your question:

Matthew 10:28

Luke 12:5

Matthew 7:13-29

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I believe you are correct. After more praying, I see that staff is exactly that, a staff. The confusion I had with Matthew wasn't there with Mark and certainly not in Hebrews or elsewhere used in the old testament. No allegory at all, crystal clear as a staff is a stick. Matthews verse threw me because it said " nor yet" before staff. But 'yet' is likened to 'though' same as 'save' in Marks verse is likened to 'though or only or but'. So as you said it is what is stated. Thank you for your response. Peace.

I'm afraid that I would have to leave you to search for & consider the 'other' meanings of 'staff & stave' & find answers, as I can only read these passages as given - as instructions to the disciples on what they should take with them in their ministry.

In Matthew chapter 10 verse 9, they were told to not to carry 'cash', rather to trust God to meet their daily needs. In verse 10, they should not be burdened with extra baggage, but to go just as they were & to trust God when their sandals wore out or another need arose. The word 'staves' are used elsewhere in the Gospels along with 'swords'. When those people approached Jesus to arrest him, some came with swords & others 'staves', or sticks. It could be that whether some of the disciples used 'staves' as for support/help in their journeyings or to fend off undesirables, Jesus is saying that these things were unimportant, rather the urgent ministry to the "lost sheep of the house of Israel".

Sorry that I can't help you with your enquiry - I don't go in much for allegorizing, unless indicated in the Scriptures. I generally understand the Scriptures as given unless there is a spiritual meaning intended (as in the parables) or veiled in abstract forms (as in the Book of Revelation).

Seeking in Scripture this morning attempting to discern through God's Holy Spirit Verse 10 where Jesus says on the back of the verse "nor yet staves;". Why did He use the word "yet" to the disciples? What was left for the Disciples to receive later but The Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit could be likened to a Stave, for doesn't one lean upon a stave? Doesn't one who is weak rely upon a staff to rest upon? And doesn't The Holy Spirit in Psalm 23 Verse 4 say of Jesus Himself saying "Thy Rod (Word) and Thy Staff (Spirit?) they comfort me."

Now throughout the Old Testament everywhere else, I find no reference of The Holy Spirit as a Staff only that of a wooden walking stick to rest upon. And in Mark 6:8 Jesus commanded " 'save' a staff only," here referring to a staff of wood to lean or rest upon when walking or standing. So what of the meaning of 'yet' and 'save' in each Gospel? So I am at a crossroads in my mind and must pray to Christ for discernment. If you desire to assist, feel free. Peace.

I believe that one who has truly repented for his sins, receiving the salvation of Jesus through faith in the Blood, is born again by the Spirit of God. That being the case, then the reception of the Spirit must be in residence that person's life because it is the Spirit's Work alone, & the new child in Christ is sealed (or, marked) as God's property. And this sealing is God's guarantee that we belong to Him unto "the redemption of the purchased possession" ( Ephesians 1:13,14).

This then has to be the experience of every child of God & the presence & working of the Spirit in him, will produce many ways of confirmation to our hearts. It could be an outward manifestation of a spiritual Gift or an inward witness of that Divine indwelling. In Acts chapter 2, we read of the very first reception of the Holy Spirit upon the new Church, with the evidence of speaking in other languages as witness to both speaker & hearer. Then in Acts chapter 8 we see that the laying of hands was required for the Christians in Samaria, who believed on Jesus through Philip's preaching, but had not received the Holy Spirit. Peter & John went to them that they too might receive the Spirit. All this happened to the fledgling Church as it was being established on Christ's Sacrifice, His teaching & that of the apostles.

But in Acts chapter 10, Cornelius & others who heard the Word brought to them by Peter, had the Holy Spirit come upon them, even while Peter was still preaching, as they then spoke in other tongues. Or, when the Ethiopian Eunuch was baptised by Philip, no mention is made about the Ethiopian receiving the Spirit. So, it seems that in the establishment of the Church & with the apostles present, God at times used them to minister the Spirit to believers. But today, with the Church now grounded in the Word, matured in Christ & with no apostolic presence, the Spirit is given liberally to all who are truly born again, who call upon the Lord in faith.

Was the Gift of the Holy Spirit promised by Adonai ,and sent back by Jesus Christ at Pentecost : afterwards accomplished by the laying on of hands by a qualified Christian/s ?

Or, does a Christian receive the Gift of the Holy Spirit automatically upon being Born Again ?

What say you.

Thank You

I don't think that way. The Bible is not guilty of confusing or getting people off balance.

This is Daniels age of information: Daniel 12:9-10. It is a mystery that is opening, NOW.

I am not lecturing anyone specifically, ok? Most hindrances to Bible Study is NOT asking the Holy Spirit to HELP you to find your answers.

I'm old, lol. I study every day. If it's a disease, I have it. It's personally rewarding and captivates me to dig even deeper to get at some truth. You need Bibles with study reference columns in the center of each page; you need a concordance; you need skill at Googling: Commentaries, History, Teachings, Maps and Genealogy Charts. I use everything.

I watch very little TV. When it's quiet, I hear the leadings of the Holy Spirit much clearer. He is the most interesting Person I've ever known.

You have many good questions. You're being called to Joel 2:28-29, 1 Corinthians 12. Galatians 3:25-28. You're blessed so keep studying, but remember to encourage yourself in Jesus. Sit in the sun, listen to some praise music, contemplate the weather that God moves around (Job). Smile at one person.

In the 4 Gospels, 4 men, different occupations came to listen to Jesus. Jesus invited them to follow him. There's a prophesy in Psalms about Judas; who would betray Jesus. Mary Magdalene and other women who cooked & washed robes, etc, followed Jesus. Paul who was never married , had women that helped with various things. Thats where Googling skills come into play. Read a historians comments too.

Jesus was a story teller which is something I love too. You have to know a story to tell it to the unsaved. My friends, we are ALL called to do the work of an evangelist. Some call it gift of gab, but I call it sharing a story, in the power of the Holy Spirit that brings the message of Christ to a heart ready to be planted by Gods Word. Plant, Water or reap harvest. ( Matthew 10:27)

A love gift to you: Malachi 3:16-18

Mishael