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Hi Ron ,it may also be worth noticing that the veil in the temple was ripped from the top downwards ,thus exposing the fact that the ark of the covenant was not there and hadnt been there for a long time .

Don, yes we see in ( Hebrews 9:6-14) With this, it shows Jesus went in once and anointed the Holy of Holies not made with hands. Jesus repaired the dwelling place and made it possible for God through the Holy Spirit in the name of Jesus to dwell in us. If we look at verse 9:8 The Holy Ghost this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing. Remember when Jesus cried out and said it was finished. He gave up the ghost, the veil of the temple was rent in half and God left the temple made with hands, the service in the temple made by hands was over, and soon in that generation, it would be physically gone and may never be again. The animal sacrifices that never covered sin ended on the cross.

Jesus told the Samaritan woman at the well of this very thing, the hour was coming and it did. The temple worship will no longer be where God would be worshiped and later on the temple would not even be there. (John4:21-24)

Only my opinion, this is the place in John 14, Jesus went to prepare for us, on the cross, mansion (dwelling place) Strong's 3438. mon, Definition: an abiding, an abode. God dwelt in the garden of Eden with Adam but was demolished with sin. Now since the cross, the body of a believer is the dwelling place. Jesus's sacrifice and anointing of the Holy of Holies in heaven, God could send the Holy Spirit in the name of Jesus to dwell, abode in us. The law is written in our hearts, not on paper.



1 Corinthians 6:19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

God bless, Ron

John 14:2,3

2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

(It is at the time of Christ's return that Christians are taken to heaven to be where Christ is. If Christians were already with Christ prior to that, there would be no need for Christ to receive them to himself.)

1 Corinthians 15:22,23

22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

(It is at the time of Christ's return that Christians are made alive. If Christians were already alive prior to that, there would be no need for them to be made alive.)

1 Thessalonians 4:15-17

15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

(It is at the time of Christ's return that Christians are caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. If Christians were already with Christ, there would be no need for them to be caught up to meet the Lord in the air.)

Linda, May CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

I AGREE AND BELIEVE everything Jesse said in his comment to you. I will expand MY BELIEF a little more.

I BELIEVE that Christ; with the elect, are and will judge the world (Satan's kingdom that Christ took back at HIS resurrection). ( Matthew 4:8-9) ( Revelation 11:15) ( 1 Corinthians 6:2) ( 1 Peter 4:17)

I BELIEVE the parable of the workers; those called to work in God's vineyard, are the elect. Those called in the first hour are the apostles and others that took part in Pentecost. Since that first hour other workers have been called; till the present hour. Ourselves now being judged by the word of God; by our brothers before us, they being ONE IN CHRIST; have also become THE WORD, the BOOKS. ( Revelation 20:12) ( Revelation 20:4)

Matthew 19:28

Romans 11:31-32

Romans 8:19 For the earnest EXPECTATION of the creature WAITETH for the MANIFESTATION of the Son of God.

Romans 8:21 Because the creature ITSELF ALSO shall be DELIVERED from the bondage of corruption unto the glorious liberty of the children of God.

Revelation 10:10 And I took the little book out of the angel's hand, and ate it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter.

Revelation 10:11 And he said unto me. thou must PROPHECY AGAIN before many peoples, and nations,and tongues,and kings.

I BELIEVE at the departure of this body we will be given THE FULLNESS OF GOD; which also will be HIS BODY, OMNIPRESENT able to judge others as he now judges us.

Linda,

I firmly believe that when we die, our soul goes immediately into the presence of the Lord. 2 Corinthians 5:1 says, "For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle (physical body) were dissolved (physical death), we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.

Paul goes on to say in Verse 6, "Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body (physically alive right now), we are absent from the Lord:"

But then in Verse 8, he says, "We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord."

Please notice that when we're here, the Lord's with us but we're not with Him in heaven. But as soon as you are absent from the body, as soon as you experience death, which means separation, as soon as your spirit leaves your body, you're in the presence of the Lord.

Paul said that his physical death would be far better for him than remaining alive because he knew that he would be in the presence of Christ. That is given to us in Philippians 1:23.

In Acts 7:59, at the stoning of Stephen, it tells us that as they were stoning him, he was calling upon God. And this is the thing that Stephen said first of all when they were stoning him. He said Lord Jesus, receive my spirit. It reminds me of Luke 23:46, "And when Jesus had cried out with a loud voice, He said Father, into thy hands I commend my Spirit. And having said thus, He expired or gave up the ghost."

So, when we die, our physical body goes into the grave and waits until the resurrection where we will receive a new glorified body. But at death, our soul separates from the physical body and goes to be with the Lord immediately.

Dear And Precious Brothers And Sisters And Neighbors,

This is a very important question like many other questions.

What happens to the soul should be one of the most important questions to everybody.

Firstly I would like to advise that the answer must come from GOD through HIS WORD.

Let us read or hear what GOD says through HIS WORD.

I Love The King James Bible because through This BIBLE, I came to realize who is the BISHOP of my soul!

Please read :

(1) 1 Peter 2:25 " For ye were as sheep going astray, but are now returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls.

(2) Colossians 3:3 "For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God"

Amen

What was on David's mind at that time?

Wow. You shall be in my prayers. You just stated the Father, the Son(Jesus Christ), and the Holy Ghost are confused? It is clear you do not believe the Scriptures and have your own carnal idea of God. Matthew 12:32, Matthew 12:36.

Also you do not believe, or understand, the words of Christ like John 10:30?

You know God says listen to His Son right? Matthew 17:5. Even further like the Angel of the LORD in the OT. Exodus 23:20-22.

Also to glorify the Son is to glorify the Father. As they are ONE. John 14:13-14. The only way to eternal life is through the Son of God. John 14:6. 1 John 5:11-13.

God is ONE. I pray the Lord leads you to leave your own beliefs behind and trust Him and His Word.

You seem to believe in the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. Though you seem to doubt who the Lord is just like the Pharisees did. Bringing Him down to "just a man". Matthew 5:20.

God Bless.

4/27/2021 Response Submitted To Annie :

(Annie's comment was on 2020-06-22 20:12:18)

Jesus could not ever break the law of the Sabbath....Why?

Answer: Because Jesus is The "New Law" HE Is The Sabbath! To GOD BE THE GLORY FOR THE GREAT THINGS HE HAS DONE!!

Jesus could not ever break the law of the sabbath....why?

answer: because jesus is the "new law" he is the sabbath! to god be the glory for the great things he had done!!

Hi Willow, your absolutely right, let Jesus take the wheel, let Him be the captain of our ship.

Matthew starting at chapter 5, the Beatitudes and sermon on the mount is one of my favorites, also Galatians chapter 5 explains the works of the flesh and the fruits of the Spirit.

Galatians 5:12-18, I would they were even cut off which trouble you. For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another. For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another. This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

I was looking for verses on gossip and lying in the KJV bible and this verse really spoke out to me, I have been out of touch lately with my church and reading of my bible and just neglecting my relationship with God and Jesus. As a result I find it easier and easier to get away from my resposibilities as a christian, and in today's world it's more important than ever to lean on God. So the reason I was looking for these verses on gossip and lies is, I found myself getting caught up in this at work a bit with much regret and guilt. So I felt this verse is a good reminder to Let Jesus take the wheel as I can really mess things up when I am not listening to God.

Dear Joan,

I think only a minority of Christians believe once saved, always saved, because the Bible doesn't support that idea. Most people would agree that Hitler probably won't be in heaven, despite going to church when young and possibly identifying as a Christian at one point. Judas was a Christian (a literal Christ follower) and betrayed Him in a huge way, and it's my personal belief that he is not saved. There's countless examples of Christians who unfortunately have turned their back on Jesus and started following the ways of the world or the devil himself. Jesus warned His followers to obey and fear God and avoid sin and obey. People today are making claims that you don't have to do anything at all. I believe God is a fair judge.

This doesn't mean we're saved by effort, it's grace. But Jesus clearly said if you love Him then obey. Christianity is an action requiring effort. Those who are genuine Christians following Christ will be saved, those who aren't are in danger of not being saved. I believe Bible backs this up very well. Plus, one can have assurance of salvation, but no one is actually saved until judgment day. So, people that claim they're saved, and can enjoy sin and doing evil 24/7 are mistaken. That idea only comes from satan. They will call out Lord, Lord and Jesus will not know him, just as the Bible says. Jesus said most people won't go to heaven- narrow is the way. Some accuse others of being legalistic, but they'd probably accuse Jesus of that too: John 14:15.

Just a few relevant verses...

Hebrews 10:26

James 2:14-26 "...faith, if it hath not works, is dead..."

James 2:19 "Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble."

1 Peter 1:13 "...hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;"

Romans 11

John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments."

Matthew 12:31-32.

Romans 14:12

1 Peter 1:5 - "...salvation ready to be revealed in the last time."

Dear Sherry,

It appears you're receiving mostly responses that de-emphasize obedience. I do not believe once saved always saved, because of Matthew 12:22-32 and so many other verses. I think if that was true Jesus would not have continually warned his followers (Christians) over and over through parables and stories about obedience and keeping His commandments and avoiding sin. It takes effort. It literally addresses this already in the Bible- saying that people used it as a license to sin and "abuse" grace: Jude 1:4, Hebrews 10:26, James 2:14-26, John 14:15, James 2:19. I fully believe all the verses others shared with you above, but unfortunately it appears most are sharing an imbalanced perspective. The Word speaks for itself and does not say once saved, always saved. Christians can and do turn from the faith, unfortunately, and sometimes a % go in the complete opposite direction and do horrific things, just like any other person can who does evil and follows the world or satan. I'm responding, because I think it's important that you not listen to men, but to the Word and pray and ask God for wisdom that you will know the truth. There are many false prophets and fake news being spread and we know who is behind that. God bless...

Matthew 12:40 is only 1 piece of evidence as to the timeline

Matthew 28:1 - says it was Sunday Jesus rose

Mark 16:1 - same the same

John 20:1 - same

Luke 24:1 - very early in the morning the first day of the week (Sunday), even more specific.

I think it's solid that Jesus was gone from the tomb by early on Sunday morning.

Theory: maybe Matthew 12:40 doesn't mean Jesus's body in the tomb, but Jesus preaching to spirits in hades in the center of the earth? 1 Peter 3:18-20, Ephesians 4:8-10. Maybe his body was in the tomb from Friday to Sunday morning, but his spirit was in the 'lower parts of the earth' for 3 days and 3 nights. This is only a theory.

Salvation requires more than just believing. There is a misconception that many Christians have - that all they have to do is proclaim that they are a sinner, ask for forgiveness and call on Jesus to save them. Jesus Himself said "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven." Later in Matthew, Jesus follows that up with, "For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother."

Let's analyze the first quote, first. Do is an action word and certainly not passive. It requires us "to do" something. But what? The will of My Father. What then, is the will of God? The will of God is not an abstract idea that is so complex we can't know what to do. Rather, the will of God is made known to us by His Spirit, the Holy Ghost, and relayed to us via Jesus through the Bible. So what does Jesus say we must do to obtain salvation? Jesus is asked what must one do to obtain eternal life. He first responses with several commandments. The guy says, "I do those things." Then Jesus replies, "If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me." Sell what thou hast requires great faith that the Lord will provide. Give to the poor is charity, which scores mega-points in getting to heaven. There are several references to charity including: And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity; charity covers a multitude of sins, and

though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.

Giving with a pure heart (doing charity is the will of God) is an action item and is a major key to eternal life. This is a major stumbling block to many complacent Christians. Remember: faith (that God provides for us, charity (is love) and hope (Jesus comes soon).

Joe,

The word corn in Hosea 2:8 refers to grain or wheat. It is not corn. From what I have learned, they didn't have cornfields back then. But they did have wheat fields.

The word corn in Matthew 12:1 and Luke 6:1 can be replaced with the word wheat. These were not cornfields, but wheat fields. The disciples were picking grains of wheat. I am not sure why the translators put corn in our English bible, but the word corn in the Greek text is the word STACHUAS, which refers to ears of grain.

Thank you for answering my one question.

No man has told me I have received the Holy Ghost. Just as no man shall ever persuade me that the Holy Ghost is not in me. I know because of what I have experienced. The Holy Bible is what God lead me to read which lead me to Jesus Christ. Most people in this world would not believe what I have experienced. Those who do are wise as I speak truth. All glory to our Lord Jesus Christ and our Father in Heaven.

I did avoid your first question. As it was unlearned. I do not believe in a "trinity of gods". God is one. It seems you do not believe in Jesus Christ being the Word of God? As stated in ( 1 John 1:14, John 14:10? The Father and the Son are also one, John 9:30. Let's not get into that though as you have your own belief. Your assumption of my water baptism is false also.

No where in the Holy Bible does it specifically state everyone who receives the Holy Ghost shall murmur or babble. That in no way is magnifying God. And to prophecy people must understand your words. Again remember as in Matthew 7:21-23 that no matter how much you prophesied, or cast out devils, in the name of the Lord that is not what saves you. The Lord searches hearts. I also just as you will have to give account for our words Matthew 12:36-37.

God Bless you.

Thank you much for your reply Tom,

I very much enjoyed reading your reply and I agree with most of what you stated. One thing you stated is very special to me. Shown to me very early, by our Father, in my journey with the Lord.

To try and not make this too long. About ( 1 Corinthians 15 24-28. Stating how the last enemy to be destroyed is death, this being the end. The end of just my life or all physical life? I cannot see how God is not all in all now. How He is the source of all life. The Creator of all. Knowing everything about everything, knowing the end before the beginning, and always being in control in Heaven and earth. Like you stated it is His Will that shall be done not ours. Job 34:14-15. Death being a part of this physical life when our spirit shall return to God. Ecclesiastes 12:7. All we see is vanity but what is not seen is eternal as ( 2 Corinthians 4:18.

How do you perceive when Jesus states of the sin that shall not be forgiven in Matthew 12:32 "neither in this world, neither in the world to come"? Do you perceive this as another physical earth or world after us? Or as like unto the angels who sinned and were cast down(from Heaven) to Tartarus ( 2 Peter 2:4? Meaning neither in earth or in Heaven.

I thank you very much for your reply and cherish very much someone to converse about spiritual things like this.

I still do not understand what you mean about the Holy Spirit and Holy Ghost to be different. Can you please give a reply about how in the Textus Receptus, the Greek texts, which our Holy Bible(NT) is translated from. "Ghost" and "spirit" is the same Greek word "pneuma". Strongs number G4151. Translated over 250 times as "spirit" and over 90 times "ghost" in English. There is no difference in Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost. That I can see anyway.

Thank you again for your time sir. God Bless you.

As I see racism in your post. You not even knowing who you posted that to.

I will just leave the verse from Jesus Christ instead of saying it myself. Matthew 12:36-37.

God Bless you.

The bible plan for speaking with tongues.

God gave visual signs throughout the bible of his presence.

God chose speaking tongues as a visual sign when you recieve the Holy Ghost!

Jesus said out of the abundance of your heart, the mouth speaks. Matthew 12:34.

When God gives you his Spirit, he puts it in your heart; Galations 4: 6.

So what is in your heart comes out of your mouth.

Jesus said:

Mark 16:17:

Believers will speak with new tongues.

Isaiah 28: 11, 12,

prophecied it is the rest/power, to cause the weary to rest; refreshing.

John 3: 5 - 7:

Jesus spoke about a new spiritual birth you will recieve when you are born again. Then he added: John 3: 8:

The WIND bloweth where it listeth, and thou HEAREST the SOUND thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is EVERYONE that is born of the Spirit.

Who did he say?

EVERYONE!

This scripture is fullfilled in Jerusalem in the upper room, the Holy Ghost was first poured out: Acts 2: 1 - 4:

And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.

And suddenly there came a SOUND from heaven as of a rushing mighty WIND and it filled all the house where they were sitting.

And there appeared unto them cloven TONGUES like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.

And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to SPEAK WITH OTHER TONGUES, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

Here you see that SOUND from heaven as a rushing mighty WIND is Holy Ghost/speaking with other tongues!

Acts 2: 33:

Peter told the jews which were speaking in another tongue/language, this is the promise of the Holy Ghost that they now SEE(VISUAL SIGN), and HEAR(YOU WILL HEAR A SOUND.)

Acts 2: 16 - 19.

Peter told the jews the prophet Joel spoke about it.

Acts 8: 14 - 20:

Simon the sorcerer saw when Peter and John laid hands on jews, he SAW POWER(THE VISUAL SIGN) when they recieved the Holy Ghost, and offered money for it!

Acts 9: 17, 18,

Paul, called Saul then, who wrote a

Dear Vince, I just noticed the insult: "So to be wise, one has to know good and evil. This will take time for you to get."

Matthew 12:36-37

"Are you saying here that God created the world and out of no where evil entered the creation? That would mean God don't know all things. God put evil and death here, therefore, this world was not intended to be everlasting paradise."

God is so powerful that He can choose to be in the moment and can change His mind too. Jonah 3:10, Genesis 18:26, Exodus 32:14, Genesis 6:6. So, one could take the other side of the argument and ask, do you not think God is powerful enough to change his mind or live temporarily in the moment and react as things unfold?

I don't think anyone can say with 100% certainty as to God's intent, his thoughts or feelings ( 1 Corinthians 2:11), but Genesis 6:6 does say God grieved and had some regret for making man in the garden. He also had regret for how evil mankind had become prior to the flood. He loved us enough to give us freedom of choice, but when so many people choose evil I'm sure God doesn't take kindly to that. It should be equally upsetting to those committing the evil, but if not now, they absolutely will regret it later.

REVELATION 13:17

May the Spirit grace us with his wisdom and his understanding.

Revelation 1:1-3 The Revelation of Jesus Christ .....things that must shortly come to pass.....and signified....

(vs 3) Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things that are written therein: FOR THE TIME IS AT HAND.

Most will study Revelation and never apply these verses to the truth of the rest of Revelation.

Signified: the nouns are symbols of something other than there definition as denoted by a dictionary. There definition can be found hidden in other scriptures in God's word.

Example:

Luke 8:5 ....and the fowls of the air devoured it.

Luke 8:11 Now the parable is this...

Luke 8:12 ....then cometh the DEVIL (fowls of the air)

Luke 13:19 (A PARABLE) It (kingdom of heaven) is like a grain of mustard seed....and the fowls of the air lodged in the branches of it.

John 15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches (where the fowls of the air dwell)....WITHOUT ME YOU CAN DO NOTHING.

Revelation 2:13 ....Even where Satan's seat is...

Matthew 12:28 But if I CAST OUT DEVIL'S by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God (Christ in you) is come in unto you.

Revelation 12:7-10 And there was war in heaven (where is the kingdom of heaven; CHRIST IN YOU, heaven is YOU): Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

(vs 8) And prevailed not, neither was THEIR place found anymore in heaven (in you)

(vs 9) And the great dragon was cast out......

(vs 10) and I heard a loud voice (Holy Spirit) saying, Now is salvation... strength..and the kingdom....

Must shortly come to pass: the revealing of Jesus Christ, he is the kingdom of heaven: CHRIST IN YOU has to happen in before your physical body dies.

The time is at hand: If you were alive 1800 years ago these words were would have declared the kingdom of heaven to you just as they are declaring the kingdom of heaven to the person reading them at the instance.

As far as I checked, only 2 men walked with God; 1-ENOCH in Genesis 5:22&24.

2-NOAH in Genesis 6;9. God bless you

Who were the three men who walked with God?

Lost in Adam and restored in Christ Jesus

Revelation 10:7

1 Thessalonians 4:16

1 Corinthians 15:44

Matthew 24:31

1 Thessalonians 4:17

1 Corinthians 15:32

Philippians 3:21

1 John 3:2

Matthew 13:43

Daniel 12:3

Revelation 21:4, 5

Colossians 1:20

John 10

Matthew 22:10

Matthew 25:34

Isaiah 65:17-19

2 Peter 3:13

1 Corinthians 2:9

Matthew 21:15

Psalm 8:3

Isaiah 65 19-25

Revelation 7:16-17

so much more...

:)

Regarding the simplicity of salvation , John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

17For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

18He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

All we have to do is believe PERIOD

1 John 1:9

Hebrews 6:18-20

(Part 4)

There's some that taste of the Holy Spirit, they partake of the Holy Spirit, they get the knowledge and enlightenment of the basic truths and foundations of the things of Christ, and they might even in their mind believe that it's true. But that doesn't mean they are saved. A person must completely surrender their life to Christ, and trust in His power to keep them saved.

I believe in the permanency of salvation because I know who saved me, and I trust in His promise that He will keep me saved by His power. Salvation has nothing to do with me. It is all a work of God. The only thing I contributed to my salvation is the sin from which I needed to be saved from.

A person has to ask themself who they are trusting in when it comes to salvation. Are they trusting in themselves to keep themselves saved? Or, are they trusting in God's keeping power. Jesus promised to never leave us nor forsake us. If we are merely partakers, playing the part, we're not saved. A person must fully surrender to Christ. Once His Spirit indwells us, that is permanent, eternal, and therefore as long as He is in us, there is no loss of salvation. And He has promised to never leave!

(Part 3)

These are Hebrews and Jews who went back and denounced the whole thing and were back professing their unbelief, and hatred, and anger toward the Lord and they were doing it publically. You see, a person can be in a group with believers and seem just like everyone else but not be saved.

They can give up their old lifestyle and seem to be following the Lord and then after some time just walk away and go right back to where they were before. And people might wonder what happened because they seemed like a believer.

Well, if you understand the parable of the sower, you know what happened. Only 1 out of the 4 people that received the seed gets saved. There are three others that heard the same thing that the saved person hears, but they have different reactions.

One of them is a person that's excitingly, with joy, hearing the word. But then when tribulations come, and by the way that's how you grow, through trials and tribulations, but when the tribulation came, they quit because it's not exciting anymore.

Now it's down to living life. Now it's down to trusting the Lord, and learning how to live by faith! And to the flesh, sometimes it's not as exciting as it first was. So they quit!

The indication in the bible that a person is saved is that they make it all the way to the end. All saved people make it all the way to the end.

A person who is not saved can look, act, and talk, and believe just like a normal believer. You can learn the language and learn the doctrines, and learn the lingo and say "praise the Lord," and you can learn how to put Jesus bumper stickers on your car correctly, and then one day just disappears.

The proof that one is saved is that they make it to the end. Why? Because we are kept by the power of God for salvation!

So he encourages believers to move past the foundation doctrines and elements of the things of the Lord, mainly because the people who stay in that area can either be saved or unsaved.

One more, I promise!