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Alex.....Liars, cheats, thieves, homosexuals--shall be cast into the lake of fire, burn in hell for eternity.

Verse 16-The disciples truly understood what they were hearing and they applied what they heard. We must do the same.

Who are the 24 Elders ? And is there a spiritual dreaming of death ?

If you're enquiring about the meaning or use of this word, Jeshurun, then I share the following:

Jeshurun means 'upright one or blessed one'. It was a term of endearment applied to Jacob (Israel) as God's beloved, His special people. We see the word appearing in Isaiah 44:1,2; Deuteronomy 32:15, 33:5, 33:26,27.

Even though Israel often failed the God Who loved them dearly & provided for them, God still waited for them to return to Him & love Him instead of idols. God still through all this spiritual adultery, called them "Jeshurun".

Hiya earl bowman thanks for your spritual insight into the working of the h.g. 2 nd cor. 3 : 6 kjv comes to mind who has made us able ministers of the new testament not of the letter that killeth but of the spirit the h.g. that gives life as even our lord said my words are spirit and life which is the h.g. a living spritual being .

That's a great request that you've put forward Braden. It's one that demonstrates a real hunger for the Lord & for more knowledge of Him from His Word. You're correct, one of the best ways of knowing the Lord & drawing closer to Him is from learning from His Word, communing with Him in your heart about what you read & giving Him the praise due to Him for the wonderful God that He is to you. Another important aspect about desiring greater communion with Him, is to allow Him (by His Spirit) to get 'more' of you. So often many Christians genuinely hunger more of the Lord's things but aren't prepared to let go of things in their own lives that come in the way of a deeper relationship with the Lord. Only you can do a heart & life search & see if there's anything there that would displease God.

Your Christian life with all its graces is always the best testimony one can have in front of family & close friends. When they observe your behaviour, your responses to difficult situations or people, your quiet confidence in the provision of your needs & the hope you have of everlasting life, often we say that it's those 'unspoken words' that can have the biggest impact. If you've already shared the Gospel with them, it's very likely that they'll stop listening to anymore words; you need to ask God that their ears & hearts will be opened & that they will enquire to hear from you. Nagging someone to listen to you isn't the best option in any family situation.

If you've done some Bible reading, then you'll know what God is saying in those many Bible Books & letters. All of Scripture needs to be read as all of it is profitable to your soul & for knowledge. Since I don't know how much knowledge of the Bible you have or where you are in your Christian life, it's difficult to suggest a Bible book to start with. The Gospels are always a good starting point to learn of Jesus Christ & His Love for you.

Sites such as Openbible will give you isolated verses on all Bible topics. GBU

How do I get closer to God? I know the best way to get closer to him is reading his word. But I never know where to start or what book to read, and most of the time just end up confused. Does anyone have any good references, I'm sixteen so what books of the Bible do you think would best fit me. I also want to learn more about the second coming of Jesus Christ, but I've read all I could find so far. I would like to ask for advice for the best way to serve god in a family that doesn't put God first. And thank you for all your help everyone, not one of my questions about Jesus and how to serve and honor him Have been unanswered or unhelpful. So thank you all

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17sharp, may the Spirit grace you with understanding, the reason I can justify adding the Holy Ghost in Zachariah 13:9 And I (the Holy Ghost) will bring the THIRD part through the fire is because:

II Peter 1:21 For the prophecy (like the words in Zachariah) came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. It wasn't Zachariah that was going to bring them (creation) through the fire; but the Holy Ghost.

Revelation 19:10 ........worship God: for the testimony (words) of Jesus is the (holy) spirit of prophecy.

I Peter 1:11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ (Holy Ghost) which was in them (prophets) did signify, when it (Holy Ghost) testified beforehand the suffering of Christ, and the glory that should follow.

II Samuel 23: 1-2 Now these be the last words of David, David the son of Jesse said, and the man who was raised up on high, the anointed (by the Holy Ghost) of God of Judah, and the sweet psalmist of Israel, said,

(2) The spirit of the Lord (Holy Ghost) spake by me, and his (Holy Ghost) words were in my tongue.

When the Spirit causes you to understand that the words in the bible are the words of Spirit and not of man then the Spirit will start bringing you into spiritual understanding and start washing away worldly wisdom, which is foolishness to God.

May the Holy Ghost you with his wisdom.

"Zachariah 13:9 And I (the Holy Ghost) will bring the THIRD part ..."

Earl, how can you justify "adding" the part "(the Holy Ghost)" in the above?

Alex, you are graced with understanding that not everyone yet has been given eyes to see and ears to hear.

Ezekiel 5:1-4 And thou, son of man (Jesus), take thee a barber's razor, and CAUSE (all is of God) it to pass upon thine head and upon thy beard: then take thee three balances to weigh, and divide the hair,

(2) Thou shall burn with fire (for our God is a consuming fire) a THIRD part in the midst or the city (spiritual Jerusalem), when the days of the siege are fulfilled (they were fulfilled at pentecost): and thou shall take a third part, and smite them with a knife: and a third part thou shall scatter to the wind; and I will draw out a sword after them.

(3) Thou shall also take thereof a FEW (find the way) in number, and bind them ( the FEW) in thy skirts.

(4) then take of them (the FEW) again, and cast them into the mist of the (lake of) fire, and burn them (the FEW) in the fire (our God is a consuming fire); for thereof (the FEW) shall a fire come into the house of Israel.

Obadiah 21 And saviours (judges) shall come upon mount Zion to judge the mount Esau; and the kingdom shall be the Lord's.

Zachariah 13:9 And I (the Holy Ghost) will bring the THIRD part through the (lake of ) fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they will say, The Lord is my God.

Revelation 9:18 By these three was the THIRD part of men killed, by the fire, and by smoke, and by brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.

Revelation 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. this the FIRST RESURRECTION.

GBU

Thank you for reading me BILL but thats y they call Jesus The 2 nd ADAM. What he did at Calvary is gonna apply the blood to everyman no exceptions .It wd make God a hypocrite if he applied the stain and the spot of adam to everyman no exceptions and not apply the blood of Christ to everyman just as the curse of adam was applied to everyman no exceptions the blessings and the blood of Christ have to be applied to everyman in the end . We are all gonna have to go thru the lake of fire simply b/c of our Adamic nature WHICH IS HIS BAPTISM OF FIRE. WHOM THE LORD LOVETH HE CHASENS WHICH IS HIS BAPTISM OF FIRE AND THE H.G. as OUR GOD IS A CONSUMING FIRE, OUR OLD ADAMIC NATURE IS GONA BE CONSUMED BY THE FIRE OF GOD . Jeremiah saw ALL men in travail and birth pains meaning in the end everybody is gonna be bornagain NO EXCEPTIONS, Even the isles of the seas are gonna be converted unto me in the end. Not one single person cd escape the curse of Adam not one thus in the end not one single person will be able to escape the blood and the blessings of Christ not one. If i belifted up i will draw ALL MEN unto me and God is no respector of persons. Hell ( the lake of fire ) is just his baptism of fire that we all need. Jesus said that every SINNER will have their part in the lake of fire, thats ALL OF US SINNERS. NONE RIGHTEOUS NO NOT ONE.As we all carry the stain and the spot of Adam .Thus the blood and the blessings of Christ that 2 nd Adam will be applied to everyman no exceptions he will stain ALL of his raiment which is humanity i was naked and you clothed me. God so loved the world etc . IF Jesus said ye must be bornagain he is gonna see to it that we are all bornagain in the END. IMO thats y the prophets saw the whole world in travail and birth pains its simply the heavenly birth.

Bill thank you for reading me but its you that do greatly err. you are not understanding the new covenant which is all inclusive, if i be lifted up i will draw all men unto me. many will have to go and do their 1st works again .we all have to go thru that lake of fire as we all are sinners and have come short of the glory of god . bill we all need that lake of fire which is baptism of the h.g. and fire as jesus said every sinner will have their part in the lake of fire.bill we are all sinners, that lake of fire is what we need. bill if the stain and the spot of adam was applied to everyman no exceptions then the blood of christ will be applied to every man no exceptions, who shall abide the day of his coming who shall stand when he appears for he shall be as a refiners fire and fullers soap we all need that lake of fire which is his baptism of fire and the h.g. no exceptions in adam we all die but in christ we will all live jesus died for everybody, his arm is not to short that he cannot reach everyman no matter how sinful. our old adamic nature answers to the red heifer that is gonna be burnt to ashes but what christ did at calvary is gonna save all of us. ok later. gbu

Alex, you err, "as all men will give birth to Christ", not ALL," Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity." Matthew 7:21,22,23

This is a detail of err in your teaching, which is heretical in total.

Thank You :)

Jesus gave a series of parables & if we take it up from verse 36, when the disciples came to Him to enquire about the sower who sowed good seed & the tares came up with them.

The crop field is the World; the Sower is Jesus; the good seed are the children of the Kingdom; the tares are the followers of Satan; & God's angels sort the good from the bad.

So we see here that Jesus is speaking of those who are or will be in His Kingdom (one the many facets of it). Jesus is seeing His Church, into which the good seed was sown & which brought forth fruit unto Him. Yet, the enemy has also been busy, sowing his tares amongst the good seed. If the Church can easily see them, knowing them by their fruit & behaviour, then Church discipline is in order. Sometimes though, the tares remain hidden & dormant, what we can't see but do not escape the Eyes of God. At the harvest-time, all the Church will experience 'reaping', but God will separate the good seed that was sown from the bad seed sown by the enemy.

And the Church from its earliest days, suffered the intrusion of Satan by those claiming to have God's Word to impart, but gave out teaching foreign to those from Christ & His apostles, & tried to lead innocent believing souls away from Christ. And this wicked work still goes on in the Church today, so the warning given by the Lord. So we are the Kingdom of God on Earth for now as His Spirit indwells His Children - but in the Millenium, Christ will reign from Jerusalem ruling from His Kingdom & we will be there as well, so that His Kingdom will be realized.

13:41 what kingdom is Jesus talking about?

James 1:5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.

Colossians 3:16 Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord.

Proverbs 8:11-12 For wisdom is better than rubies; and all the things that may be desired are not to be compared to it.

Ephesians 1:17 That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:

Proverbs 1:7 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

Luke 21:15 For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.

Romans 11:33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out

Proverbs 3:13 Happy is the man that finds wisdom, and the man that gets understanding.

Proverbs 17:27 He that hath knowledge spareth his words: and a man of understanding is of an excellent spirit.

Ecclesiastes 7:1-29 A good name is better than precious ointment;

1 Corinthians 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

Proverbs 4:7 Wisdom is the principal thing; [therefore] get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding.

Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

Matthew 13:11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given

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Genesis 1:31

"And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day."

King James Bible

Death and life are in the power of the tongue: and they that love it shall eat the fruit thereof

Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

John 6:70

"Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?"

2 Timothy 4:3

"For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;"

Matthew 13:37

He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;

The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one

For unsaved loved ones, it takes rock solid faith in Jesus (unmovable), to pray for the Lord of the Harvest to send laborers into the paths of your resistant relatives.

He arranges divine appointments for people to hear the gospel of Jesus Christ with the convicting power of the Holy Spirit.

They, with the Father, CREATED all we see and know. Is there anything too hard for the Lord? In REVELATION there is a scene of Jesus with a sickle, reaping the Harvest.

Get in on this! Pray for these stubborn relatives, loved ones, belligerent teenagers; even the old, the drugged up; the angry at life, everybody! Even perfect strangers.

Christ-like Love should drive you to your knees, often if not every day. Budget one hour to do serious business in your prayer life. Pray for LABORERS TO BE SENT.

This is called, love and obedience to the known will of God. Jesus is the Lord of the Harvest. Sitting at the right hand of God, making intercession for all saints. Ask and receive. Keep your faith fixed on Jesus only.

PRAY TO THE LORD OF THE HARVEST.

" Matthew 9:37

Then saith he unto his disciples, The harvest truly is plenteous, but the labourers are few;

Matthew 9:38

Pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that he will send forth labourers into his harvest.

Matthew 13:30

Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into MY BARN.

Matthew 13:39

The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels."

Do it yourself and quit whining for others to do it for you. Faith Loves Wide. Turn off the worldly world and do some business with Jesus.

Mishael

These 4 different soil conditions where in response to the Pure word of God , not teachings found elsewhere . So we are talking about reading or hearing the scriptures. That's the safest form of the word . Others can speak as God gives them ability as well , but the scriptures are the best always .

The 1st person that the seed fell on the way side was open to interpretations and it never sunk in and they lost everything. The devil has many answers that seem convincing to a person of little knowledge of truth . He takes full advantage of their ignorance.

Matthew 13

The parable of the sower is something every truth seek should put a lot of study into .

4 types of ground that the seed or word of God is planted in .

A few things I pondered over the years about this is .

The condition of the heart effects the soil . Proverbs says out of the heart are the issues of life and to watch over our heart . God looks upon are hearts , we believe with the heart , etc

The 4th that was good ground had good soil or a good heart , it's the only one of the 4 that understood.

The other 3 did not understand fully , they varied in understanding to their demise .

Take heed how you hear the word of God .

Matthew 13:23

But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.

Keeping to your question about tithing: Jesus told us to give cheerfully, not grudgingly.

Tithing establishes TRUST between you and God. You trust Him, and HE takes care of your needs. He is faithful that Promised.

As your faith grows beyond 10 percent and you give above that; the scripture above shows that you receive greater reward for being faithful.

Offerings are above the tithe. These are you blessing God back for the blessings you have received and you desire now, to bless Gods people. It doesn't have to be to your Church. I give to ministries that go to all the world; feed and help people who are going through disasters...and need everything. It makes me so happy to read the praise reports that come back to me.

Offerings build churches, buy Bibles, help the oppressed in other countries etc.

What is on your heart that you wish you could help in some way?

Then discuss this with your Heavenly Father, ABBA. And see if you get the green light in Your spirit.

This is your bag of seed that blesses the whole world. Happy you will be!

We can't outgive God. He desires to bless His kids. But if we draw back and think greedy; the only person who suffers is us. We will not experience that blessing that God wants to pour out on us.

DONT think small. Think Big like your Daddy, ABBA.

If you see a neighbor who has the same old, ragged 50yr old sweater on; present them with a brand new sweater, in Jesus Name.

See what happens in the heart: yours and theirs. Miracles do happen.

Mishael

Everything is still this morning. Darkness all around. I have my coffee l look around. A homeless in front --no shirt not much. My wallet shows 1.00 only. l watch before l go in Chevron. Coffee l want. I give him my dollar. He blessed me when l did. He was a Christian-- He never forgets.. I got him a roll cause all l had was my card. I watch others especially around Starbucks. Well to do....but no heart for helping others. Shame...God is close to coming. What will you say? Watching others am seeing how cold this world has became. Hearts waxing colder and colder. What can l say. The world does not matter to me now. Always looked for others with kindness in their heart. Years past l never saw many stop. Now in our last days only gotten worse. Oh what will Jesus say? He suffered so for our Sins. Why should He suffer more. I sit here in quietness wondering when some Love will show. Maybe this world won't be so slow.

I think this entity is Jesus or the Holy Spirit!!

Federico, My opinion: I feel for you, my friend. This could be mental or spiritual. Are you a Christian? Did you accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior of your life? Are you living by grace through the Holy Spirit like Acts 2? Are you truly living as a servant of Jesus Christ as the LORD of your life? That means not holding on to sin especially sin of the past... but asking for forgiveness daily (repentance..."Confess your sins and He is just and faithful (righteous) to forgive you your sins and to cleanse you from all unrighteousness". If so and even if not so, if it is spiritual or mental, I believe that you should go to a Spirit-Filled Christian Minister (Counselor) who can help you in Deliverance. A prayer of Deliverance can set you free...Deliverance has helped many individuals; especially new Christians who came out of the world and who are now living for Jesus Christ. I, myself had gone through a deliverance prayer with a Minister when I first came out of the world. Not spoke about much nowadays; but it could be an answer to your problem.. God loves you and wants to care for you! He gives us Counselors so we can be helped. All of us...

Matthew 13:8 - But other fell into good ground and brought forth fruit, some an hundredfold, some sixtyfold, some thirtyfold. Why this fruit brought forth stated in descending order. To me it is effectiveness gospel in times. At the time of our Lord gospel was widely accepted. Then in tribulations it becomes sixtyfold and at present it is only thirtyfold only. The decrease in faith gradually evolved in church. Today preachers are enthusiastic, yet their fruitfullness is very low.Our Lord even asked in Luke 18:8- Nevertheless when the son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?. We are now sure that our Lord coming very soon. And also remember that "So shall my word goeth forth out of my mouth : it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I send it. Isaiah 55:11.In the present world only thirty percent believes in our Lord Jesus Christ.

well i got a queston or two but im going to tell you something you can belive it or not if you like i been having strange dreams about other places and places that i dont know if they exsist but when i dream about it feels like if im awake and i cant get out of it intell it lets me im geting useto it but some are scary and some are unbelevable and thats one thing and the other thing is some of the dreams arent about that it about my futer i think didint want to beleve it but when i wake up i see everything happen like it happen in my dream i even say some stuff thats going to happen and my family gets freaked out and last thing i also have like someone in my head that talks to me like a regler person and i talked back and it talks back it was creepy at first but i got useto it. thankyou for hearing me.(-:

Fred, may the Holy Spirit grace us with his understanding, when the (children of the resurrection) physical body dies our spirit (now one with the Spirit of God through the work of Christ) in the twinkle of an eye we (corruptible) shall put on Christ (incorruption), and this mortal (us) shall put on Christ (immortality). I Timothy 6:16 Who (Christ) only hath immortality, dwelling in the light (God)...... Luke 20:35-36 But they (children of the resurrection) which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that (Spirit) world, and the resurrection from the dead....(vs) 36 Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection. Psalms 103:20 Bless the Lord, ye his angels, that excel in strength, that do his commandments, hearkening unto the voice of his word. Psalms 104:4 Who maketh his angels spirits; his ministers a flaming fire. Hebrews 1:14 Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation? Psalms 149:6-9 Let the high praises of God be in their mouth, and a two edge sword in their hand; (vs) 7 To execute vengeance upon the heathen (nations), and punishments upon the people; (vs) 9 To execute upon them the judgement written, this honour have all his saints.... Revelation 14:6 And I say another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on earth ( Revelation 20:7 And when the thousand years (church age) are expired, (the children of) Satan shall be loosed out of his (Gods) prison (the grave, the wages of sin is death), and to every nation, and kindred and tongue and people. Matthew 13:33 And the kingdom of heaven is like unto leaven (Spirit of God) which a woman ( Galatians 4:26 new, spiritual Jerusalem the mother of us all) took and hid in three measures of meal (us, the meat offering to God), till the whole (lump, all mankind) was leavened (by the Spirit of God).

To FRED SCANLAN

Please consider the following, as you refuse to accept God's 'Life' giving message ( John 18:37).

God unites His people (the believers) by His Spirit ( John 4:24; Eph. 4:3-6,13).



Luke 9:56. For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them.

Matthew 11:6. And blessed is he, whosoever shall not be offended in me ( Isa. 8:14; Matthew 13:57; 24:10; 26:31; Rom. 9:32; 1 Cor. 1:23; 2:14; Gal. 5:11; 1 Peter 2:8).

John 3:19. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

Luke 11:22. But when a stronger than he shall come upon him, and overcome him, he taketh from him all his armour wherein he trusted, and divideth his spoils.

1 John 4:4-6. Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he than is in the world. They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them. We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice ( John 8:47; 18:37).

You search the scriptures for in them ye think that ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life ( John 5:39,40).

He that is spiritual judgeth (discerneth) all things, yet he himself is judged by no man ( 1 Cor. 2:15).

There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn't true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true ( Proverbs 1:7; 10:8,21; 12:15; 13:20; 14:9; 16:22; 18:2; 20:3; 29:11; Luke 18:10-14; Cor. 1:20; 2:14; 15:36).

We regret that you are not able to understand any of the above ( 1 Cor. 2:14; 2 Cor. 7:10). Notwithstanding: Seek and ye shall find ( Matthew 7:7).

Don't let your self-righteousness stand in the way of your salvation ( Romans 10:2-4).

In His Service.

Andy & Dianne van den Berg