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  • Gigi - In Reply on Matthew 18 - 2 years ago
    Dear Mary

    Jesus is our mediator between us and God. Not clairvoyant people. Test their spirits by going to the Lord in prayer and by search Scripture to see if what they say align with God's Word. If it does not, avoid these people and reject their words to you. If these people are believers and the words they speak align with Scripture and cone to pass, then perhaps these people have a word or knowledge from the Holy Spirit.

    Pray for discernment in this. I have met believers who often speak supposed "words of knowledge to others often, but what they say is rarely true. These people are deceived in thinking they are exercising a gift of the Holy Spirit but really they are just spoiting proclamations of their own generation, not from God. It can be easy to spot these people due to their "puffs up" attitude and showy ways. One who truly has a word from God to speak to someone does do privately, with humility, and concern for your spiritual well-being,not to humiliate you in public of use this supposed gift to criticize or denigrate a person.

    So be cautious with these folks and pray for hem and for yourself. If you are beset with a sin that you often fall into. Repent and confess it to God. Avoid the occasions for temptations and people who also participate in that sin. Instead, substitute the sinful action with a godly one, that you may bless others and build up your own faith. God bless you.
  • Grae - In Reply on Matthew 18 - 2 years ago
    Angels often have messages from God to humans . Please read Genesis Ch 21 V 1-21 , Judges Ch 6 V 11-26 , Judges Ch 13 V 1-23 , all of Zechariah and Luke Ch 1 V 1-38 . U will notice that when an Angel is given a message from God to deliver to a human , the Angel does it himself . Angels do not deligate , to a human , what God has told them to do . God has a message for u , it's a message of peace , love , mercy and reconciliation and u will find it in the Bible. So I would say that these so called clairvoyants r nothing more than tricksters who certainly want some thing from u . I would b avoiding them and reading my Bible .
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Matthew 18 - 2 years ago
    I ask you to pray & I will also pray for you, for protection & clarity & discernment in these matters.

    I had a friend years ago that had said 'her mother would say something to people she didn't like about fire to cause them fear' a while after that me & that dearly loved friend had a deep discussion about a medical targeted abortion. I pleaded with her not to be afraid but trust GOD, I had told her how so many things that were wonderful about her that would be in that child. She had already had the abortion. Sometime around that she would say "she had dreams about me & house fires, dangerous & was concerned for my family " after saying that to me multiple times, then no longer speaking to me. It literally bothered me over the years, causing unwelcome concerns. Then I would remember what she previously disclosed & GOD's power & protection. Matthew 5:44,

    Peoples words spoken over someone can be curses or blessings but GOD says Edify one another & not to curse. Here are some scriptures: 1 Thessalonians 5:8-11, Romans 14:19, warning, Psalms 62:4, Psalms 109:28,

    Remember the promises spoken over us by GOD. : Genesis 12:3, Numbers 22:12, Deuteronomy 11, Nehemiah 13:12, Proverbs 3:33,

    Proverbs 26:2,

    Hopefully this helps remember: John 16:13,
  • Mary on Matthew 18 - 2 years ago
    Since young, I've thought the lord blessed me with my musical abilities, Compassion and Empathic knowledge of peoples emotions, to empower, and uplift them, never intrude.

    But I am approached by people claiming Clarvoyant, contact from angels for me.

    Is this real, or scams.
  • Ernestine Cotman - In Reply on Matthew 18 - 2 years ago
    Jesus, the Son of Man, Emmanuel. He was born of Man and God. Created by God, He would be his only Son of Man, categorically.
  • Sean veasley - In Reply on Matthew 18 - 2 years ago
    Apology i read your question wrong and answered it wrong.
  • Sean veasley - In Reply on Matthew 18 - 2 years ago
    What do you mean?

    If you are speaking of the names we come up with on a individual bases. We hold dear to the incident that happen to us and tend to attach it to the name of God.

    Example: Something told me not to go that way. Next thing you know it's an horrible accident or incident where you were heading. Now you are thanking God to the upmost.

    Your now telling people your miracle and you say"Something" told me not to go that way. That something was God, now you have given God a new name or increased his name count without referencing Gods name. People assume when your telling your miracle you meant God when you say "something"told me not to go down there you meant God.

    Hope i answered your question
  • Roy on Matthew 18 - 2 years ago
    What is the meaning of the increasing number of references to "the Son of man"?
  • Jesse Bolgiano - In Reply - 2 years ago
    God in Jesus Name I come into total agreement with GiGi. In your Word God in Matthew 18:19 Jesus says that if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven. God your my source. I can't make it without You. I have faith in your Word. There is no failing in it. I believe in your Word and I confess it. I thank You GiGi for your prayer. I pray for you too. If there be any brokenness or any area in your life that needs praying for. I pray for wholeness. No brokenness. Everything whole in mind, body and spirit. I plead the Blood of Jesus over my life and GiGi life. Amen.
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Joel 1 - 2 years ago
    2 Chronicles 25:7-8, Matthew 13:37-52, Matthew 18:2-14, he warned some Matthew 21:41-44, Matthew 22:1-14, Matthew 23:13-39, Matthew 25:31-46, John 8:13-39,

    & sealed in The last days Revelation 7:2-17, Hopefully these are all helpful
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Deuteronomy 24 - 2 years ago
    Hope you find these scriptures helpful.

    Matthew 18:21-35, Matthew 6:12,14, Mark 11:26, Luke 11:4, Leviticus 23, Leviticus 25, Numbers 30, Ecclesiastes 5:4,5, Ezekiel 18:7-32,

    Deuteronomy 23, Proverbs 28:8, Psalms 15:5, Ezekiel 22:12,
  • Rod - In Reply - 2 years ago
    S Spencer, great comment thank you

    As Jesus says in Matthew 18:3-7 trust and believe as a child.
  • Rod - In Reply on Philippians 1:27 - 2 years ago
    There is many one could quote these are but a few.

    Matthew 5:3-15, Matthew 18:3-5, Matthew 22:37-40, Philippians 2:2-10, Galatians 5:16-26
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hello again Mr. Rutkin, I was just now reading John 10:10-16,

    Yesterday I sent my reply even though I felt it half completed of all the scriptural references I would have liked to include of resemblances within the New Testament. It was very late & I knew it was a good stopping point of study. If you would like those, please let me know.

    I am glad Rick responded about David's sin because that is frequently a thought worth addressing, when discussing, how? Why? David was addressed as "a man after mine own heart" Acts 13:22. I have many views & some scriptures on that issue; If you would like those too.

    However to just address Acts 13:22,

    Today I found another powerful reference: John 10:11,12,15, David's similarly 1 Samuel 17:34,35,36,37, 1 Chronicles 21:17,

    Matthew 18:11-14,

    Again, please let me know if you would like more New Testament scriptures.

    Hopefully this was helpful.
  • Bro dan - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Bro Alex,

    Sorry, my typo. Rather than Matthew 18:13 and 14

    It is Matthew 18:3-4

    3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

    4 Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.

    God Bless
  • Bro dan - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Bro Alex,

    The scripture is talking about becoming like a child - by adopting their nature. Yes, we must assume the nature of a child. Scripture is not to be complicated, on the contrary, God wants his WORD to be easy to understand! Even a child should understand most scripture.

    Here Jesus tells us:

    Matthew 18:3

    "And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven."

    1- Except ye be converted (We must be Born Again)

    2- Become as little children (This means literally become like a child in our nature)

    If we don't change, (become Born Again and take on the nature of a child) we will not enter into the kingdom of heaven!

    Alex, here is Jesus himself - giving us "The Key" to becoming like a child!

    Matthew 18:14

    Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven. Do you believe this scripture? Yes, or no?

    Jesus tells us in the above verse that if we humble ourselves like a little child - we will be the greatest in the kingdom of heaven! The KEY is becoming humble!

    So, in summary, Jesus tells us if we want to become like a child we must become HUMBLE.

    In my previous posts I listed for you some scripture verses and asked if you believed them, or not, and you have not provided your answers. If you can't comment directly on these specific scripture then it seems to me like you are avoiding it and just reiterating your normal talking points, and not focusing on the selected scripture and topic.

    God Bless.
  • Bro dan - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Bro Alex,

    Jesus in plain language told his disciples:

    Matthew 28:19

    "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:"

    Do you not believe this verse? Yes or No?

    After Christs crucifixion: Peter tells us (everyone) how we receive the Holy Spirit.

    Acts 2:38

    "Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost." Do you believe this verse? Yes or No?

    You mention John 3:37 This is Jesus telling us to drink from his spirit, yes he promises to give us his Holy Spirit, going on - In John 3:38 "He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water." This confirms that we will receive the Holy Spirit when we believe in Him, repent, be baptized as "all of the scripture" states. We need to read, understand and believe in "all of the scripture" not just "cherry pick" single verses like this - that may meet "your own unique vision" of salvation.

    You continually mention the need for us to become like children to enter into heaven. I agree, we need to become like children as commanded by Jesus: Matthew 18:3 "And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven."

    The way we become like children - is to become - "like children" - humble, obedient, and submissive to Christs instructions, and commands, as Jesus/God emphasizes throughout the Old, and New Testaments in the bible. The downfall of the Jews and Christians yesterday and today - is the sinful and continual rebellious attitude to obedience toward Gods commands!

    Read and believe!
  • S Spencer - 2 years ago
    Continued.

    Hi GiGi.

    As promised, I would like to bring attention to something I've heard say on this site that I believe we may have wrong. I include myself in this, However I do take the site serious and so do many others. I think we should consider this verse.

    Matthew 18:20.

    You see a governing of the Church in Matthew 18. And Christ is in the midst.

    We're Identified with Christ!!

    We're not baptized unto this site We're baptized unto Christ, We dont leave off from that, This union is not done by us, this is done by the Holyspirit, And that gathering is the Church! We have been gifted ministers of all sorts,, and pruned to bare fruit for the ministry. You don't take that off and on like a winter coat.

    We are not a body of people called into something, as having location. we're a body of people called out of something. And that's the world. And we didn't do the gathering.

    This site is not the Church we are, This site is the location where we gather. We don't diminish that for the sake of improper functioning.

    The Lord set up hierarchy for its spiritual benefits, When we break it willingly or unknowingly we can see the unfunctional practices come to surface. This is why Paul gave pastoral epistles when he set up Churches. Everything in scripture applies in our lives. PERIOD. When we come on this site He's still Lord!! Today the Church is on this site! And will be tomorrow.

    Matthew 5:13-16.

    When we gather on this site we bring salt to it. and we function as written in scripture.

    I will leave off there for now.

    God bless.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi Brother.

    I believe you are correct.

    I would like the opportunity to further elaborate on the issue. We a start off on different journeys as did Paul and Peter.

    There's a growth process at we begin as babes in Christ.

    Per adventure you take two married couples genuinely seeking the Lord, One group ends up under great spiritual leadership, The other not so and never finds rest in Christ early on. Ends up in a divorce, remarries have a clear and remorseful understanding of his error and ( HAVE A REPENTED HEART). Serve the Lord through the working of the spirit, The fruit of his labor express that. Now we begin to see maturity in that person by the repentance he has displayed.

    I don't think this falls under habitual sin.

    What is repentance? To turn from something and to see and feel the way God does about the matter. AND THAT'S DONE BY THE SPIRIT! And the Lord will judge man's heart and intent and Motives as only he can. We should be careful in wanting the Lord to draw out a plumb line on people's lives. We all continue to come up short in regards to perfection whether you are in habitual sin or not.

    How do we measure habitual pride?

    or habitual hypocrisy?

    Let's consider something.

    A few weeks ago we discussed that this site is just a forum and not a Church setting. After carefully vetting and studying Matthew 18:15-20.

    I, Myself made an mistake. WE "THE REGENERATED" ARE THE CHURCH! AND WE ARE GATHERING! AND MINISTERING, ( AND THE LORD IS IN THE MIDST) We may not be formal but when you don't function under proposed guidelines for the Church in scripture you see the same consequences!! That was brought to my attention via observation.

    "If" this is true we should tread lightly and beware of that plumb line.

    God bless.
  • Bro dan - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Bro Earl,

    I agree we must listen and believe God. He promises that he will Judge and punish the wicked/sinners.

    Proverbs 11:21"Though hand join in hand, the wicked shall not be unpunished: but the seed of the righteous shall be delivered.

    God tells us to love our enemies, and forgive those against us. We are to be like children, and lambs, just as Christ was our example. Matthew 18: 21-22

    "Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times? Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven." Meaning indefinitely!

    Remember Brother, this life is very short, the next one is for eternity. We can pick up our cross each day and bear it, for this short time period, because we can see our everlasting reward!

    God Bless
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Proverbs 12 - 2 years ago
    Tony,

    I just wanted to add to discussion, Proverbs 12:28, Proverbs 3:11-12,

    Pray "FATHER GOD ALMIGHTY deliver me from all addiction, restrain me, sustain me, direct, me guide me, help me LORD."

    I will & have prayed with you in agreement on this. I also pray for healing in every way. Matthew 18:18-20, John 14:12-15,

    Psalms 22:24, Psalms 145:16-19,

    Advice stop talking, texting, meeting & calling those who lead u in wrong directions, & habits. Flee!! Psalms 143:9,

    Psalms 51:2,

    Psalms 139, read this when you feel alone & hold tight to GOD & HIS promises, cry out to HIM. HE does deliver, HE does heal.
  • Adam - In Reply on Deuteronomy 31 - 2 years ago
    Hello Natashya,

    You might consider reading this: Matthew 18:21-22 Also the parable of the talents after that is also about forgiveness. The summary of this is: Matthew 6:14.

    As a Christian following in the footsteps of Jesus our sins are covered by grace as long as we are choosing to follow Jesus. 70x7 basically means a LOT and nearly unlimited. If we're genuinely following Jesus we can have assurance of salvation. But messing up is one thing, but deliberately sinning is another. Hebrews 10:26.

    Jesus throughout the Bible challenges everyone including believers to avoid sin. Over and over He said that. The problem is some assume that when they become a Christian you can stop what you're doing, because they believe they're already 'saved' and can commit unlimited sin and evil pleasure they desire and not worry about any consequences. Some even say its bad to do good, because you're putting in 'human effort'. Beware of lies aimed and distorting God's truth. I believe scriptures say the opposite: I believe when you become a Christian you START your journey towards Jesus and work towards developing your character to be more and more like Jesus and a key part of this is NOT SINNING! So, some believe they can and should put zero effort into this 0 of 10. But I believe we should put max effort into this: 10 of 10.

    John 14:15,

    2 Peter 1:5 says to be diligent. One translation says 'make every effort'

    Luke 13:24 says to 'strive to enter through the narrow door'

    2 Timothy 2:15 'do your best'

    Luke 6:46 - don't call Jesus Lord and fail to do what He says

    There are verses about entering God's rest, but I believe it means a spiritual rest and not physical where we're just sitting on the couch all day binge drinking and eating. The Bible says we'll be persecuted for our beliefs, that this is not our world, and we're to run the race as to receive the prize. All this suggests great effort in my opinion, but we're not saved from that effort, but by grace.

    God bless...
  • Adam - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi AliBaba,

    I just noticed your question and would be happy to share my input based on what you shared.

    If you are a Christian (Christ follower) and have genuinely asked God for forgiveness I believe you are completely forgiven and that you should also forgive yourself and release any burden you carry.

    However, it my opinion that you should do what you can to right wrongs, but its usually not possible to completely make up for sins (wrongs) you have commited against people that hurt them. Even if someone stole from someone and secretly sent it back anonymously after a period of time, you still never know how much harm and problems and stress that may have caused that person. I believe in doing as best as you can and making things right to the best of your ability. And I believe the next best thing one can do is forgive others. It's possible some of the victims may have known or suspected it was you and it's possible some have forgiven you.

    You probably know what it's like to be hurt, and I think the next best thing you can do is 'pay it forward' by forgiving anyone who has stolen or done wrong to you in some way, either in the past, present, or future. It would show great growth and maturity to do that. I will share the Bible references related to this that come to mind:

    Matthew 18:21-35 the parable of the unforgiving servant.

    Matthew 6:14, Matthew 7:2

    It seems your questions are about forgiveness: of others forgiving you, you forgiving yourself, and you forgiving others. This is my opinion based on what you shared and I hope you find it useful. God bless...
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Brother David:

    Matthew 5:25 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not thy whole body cast into GEHENNA (translated hell).

    When Jesus was on earth Gehenna was the dump ground for Jerusalem where all the trash, garbage and bodies of dead criminals was dumped. It was on fire to DESTROY. Worms were there eating the dead flesh. As long as there was new fuel being dumped there, the worms never died nor was the fire ever quenched. It's a city park now, the is no longer worms or a fire.

    Jesus was using Gehenna as an analogy, not something literal. If Jesus meant for you to take it literally, why aren't you missing eyes, hands and feet, that you have cut off and plucked out, to stay out of HELL.

    Matthew 5:30

    Matthew 10:28

    Matthew 23:15

    Matthew 23:33

    Mark 9:43

    Mark 9:45

    Mark 9:47

    Luke 12:5

    Matthew 5:22

    Matthew 18:9

    James 3:6

    All the verses have GEHENNA translated as HELL

    Here are the scriptures in the Old testament that refer to Hinnom.

    Nehemiah 11:30

    Joshua 15:8

    Joshua 18:16

    2 Kings 23:10

    2 Chronicles 28:3

    2 Chronicles 33:6

    Jeremiah 7:31

    Jeremiah 7:32

    Jeremiah 19:2

    Jeremiah 19:6

    Jeremiah 32:35

    None of the scriptures have anything to do with the CHRISTIAN HELL.
  • Chris - In Reply on John 21 - 3 years ago
    English Sacha. Is that what you have gleaned from what I addressed to Earl? You've made some assumptions that clearly are emotive rather than what I had written or is revealed in the Bible. We're discussing the fact of God's Judgement to all who are not saved through Jesus Christ.

    How God decides who are worthy of judgement (whether some primitive soul or those with mental shortcomings, etc), is God's matter, not mine nor yours. If you believe this God of Love is incapable of judging sinners in such a manner, then you would need to consider the operation of God throughout Scriptures - i.e. He is indeed a God of Love but also a God of Justice. We can often be conditioned by the world & what we perceive to be right, to think of such a justice system as normal, as true. Whereas God's Justice always demands the correct penalty - and unfortunately, simply losing one's life in death (which happens to us all) is just one part of that justice. The wages of sin might indeed be death, but the wages for the rejection of God & His offer of salvation are far greater ( Daniel 12:1,2; Matthew 18:7-9; Matthew 25:31-46; 2 Thessalonians 1:7-9; Jude 1:6,7; Revelation 14:9-11; Revelation 20:10-15). And sister GiGi has also given a very apt response to you.
  • Bro dan - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Brother David,

    I have profited from our discussions here regarding our salvation. Many others read our posts on KJVO, and as we write these posts I believe that God is here with us encouraging all of us to share in the food and drink in this banquet.

    Matthew 18:20

    "For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them."

    God Bless.
  • Mishaet - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Matthew 18:19-20

    That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven. For where two or three are gathered together in my name, THERE AM I, in the midst of them.

    I am agreeing with you that every need would be supplied, according to your Word; Ask and it will be given to you. Amen. Thank you Lord.

    Advise: Once I went to a temp agency and you might get something there. Try to trim your resume down to 1 Page. If they teach resume writing or interview skills, take that. Staying busy is the best thing now.

    Go to church. Give a tithe in pure faith. Maybe help the church office making copies or something else. We can't buy Gods favor, but we can be meek.
  • Diane Taylor - In Reply on Job 3 - 3 years ago
    Continued: The Gospel of the Kingdom: Jesus and the 12 preached the gospel (good news) of the Kingdom at THAT time ( Matthew 4:17, Matthew 9:35, Acts 3:19). Which was for the Jew only ( Matthew 10:5,6: Luke 9:10 Matthew 15:24; John 4:22; Matthew 18:11; Romans 15:8) Appropriated by repentance, baptism, faith plus works. The content of the gospel of the Kingdom was Jesus was Israel's promised Messiah, the Son of God. " And Jesus went about all the cities and villages, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the Kingdom, and healing every sickness and every disease among the people. Matthew 9:35 The apostle Peter's profession of faith was that he believed Jesus was in fact the Christ, the Son of God. Not that Jesus died for our sins, was buried and rose from the dead three days later. No way, how could that be Jesus was still alive. And the gospel of grace wouldn't be revealed for another 10 years. Yes, of course. Everything is based on the finished work of the cross but in time, at that time ,that was all Peter or any other Jewish person was to believe for salvation. "He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? And Simon Peter answered said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-jona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven," Matthew 16:15-17 The gospel of the Kingdom began with John the Baptizer and ended during the Acts period ( Acts 15:11) The gospel of the kingdom will pick up again when the body of Christ is raptured and the Lord turns His attention back to Israel and the Kingdom gospel and the 490 years prophesied in Daniel 9. Also known as the tribulation, Jacob's Trouble, or Daniel's 70th week." And this gospel of the Kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come". Matthew 24:14 To be continued, conclusion:
  • T.Levis - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Also with The WORD of GOD ALMIGHTY, HIS promises, faith: Romans 10:17, Psalm 19:14, Matthew 18:20, James 5:14-16, Psalm 1:1-3,

    Matthew 17:15-21
  • Chris - In Reply on John 3 - 3 years ago
    Hello Carol. I can't think of any specific Scripture to fit the situation you've shared, as the Bible speaks generally about those who are righteous & acceptable to God, whom God receives into Heaven (both adults & children).

    But if it helps, you can look at Matthew 18:1-10, where, in His discourse, Jesus spoke of little children & how we are to become like them; i.e. the innocence of children at that stage in life, whether or not they have been brought into the world legitimately or not. As you know, every person in the World is precious to God Who made us - and He has done everything possible to get His Word to us, so that we may know Him & be saved through His Son, Jesus' Sacrifice. So, the child who is innocent & without blame, even if its parents may have conceived him outside of lawful marriage, will still be acceptable to God (providing the child is still in the age of innocence). Once the child reaches the age (this age might vary) where it is conscious of sin, by planning to commit it, then the child is now accountable to God & needs to be saved - it needs to hear the Gospel & respond to it.

    So, I believe that all children, before the age of accountability, are accepted unequivocally by God, no matter what their family situation might be, or the country of birth, or even the religious position of its parents. Rather, it should be of grave concern to the parents if they are in a sinful relationship, that they should set things right before God & all concerned.


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