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Hi Gary, I'm not aware of any change. Can you be more specific and list why you think there was a change of something somewhere by someone?

When did they Change the words in the Bible from Old and New Covenant to Old and New Testament?

"His name shall be called...The mighty God" Isaiah 9:6

"My Lord and my God" John 20:2

"He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest" Luke 1:32

"that Holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God" Luke 1:35

"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son" John 3:16

"And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God" John 1:34

"This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased" Matthew 3:17

"God sent his only begotten Son into the world" 1 John 4:9

"Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God" Matthew 16:16

"The Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world" 1 John 4:14

"And thou shall call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins" Matthew 1:21

"Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world" 1 Peter 1:20

"But when the fulness of the time was to come, God sent his Son" Galatians 4:4

"Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel" Isaiah 7:14

"Behold, thou shall conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shall call his name JESUS" Luke 1:31

"Then said Mary to the Angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?" Luke 1:34

"And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God" Luke 1:35

" Thou son of David, fear not to take Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost" Matthew 1:20

"And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us" John 1:14

"I am the bread of life....This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die. I am the living bread which came down from Heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live forever: and the bread that I give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world" John 6:48-51

Thanks for sharing your evidence. I agree with all the scriptures and believe and trust in the Bible. I don't trust your interpretion of it, however, as to arrive at such a conclusion you first have to cherrypick a few verses and ignore many verses. Secondly, the few cherrypicked have to then be interpreted in an unconventional, distorted way.

So, it sounds like you don't believe Jesus is God, despite the scripture clearly saying that in these scriptures and elsewhere: John 10:30, John 1:1, 1 John 5:7-8. Jesus is the Word and the Word is God is 100% clear to even children readers.

The first piece of evidence you used to claim He's not God is Matthew 16:15-17 saying He's the Son of God. But these aren't mutually exclusive. It sounds like you're assuming Jesus somehow can't be both God and the son of God. That's not much different than someone claiming God the Father can't be God, because He's the Father. So, I think your interpretation of this being 'evidence' that Jesus isn't God is a false assumption.

2 Corinthians 5:19 - God in Christ. That too doesn't mean Christ isn't God's son or isn't God. That involves making yet another assumption.

John 20:17 - this is your strongest piece of evidence, but again, I believe you have to make another false assumption and ignore earlier in the same book where it clearly says the Word (Jesus) was God. How can you refute that verse so easily. The Bible says Jesus is God in many places, He had the power of God to perform miracles, He died for you, and you prefer to ignore the parts of John that say He's God in favor of the part that says His father is God to draw such a conclusion. Just because you have a hard time understanding the trinity doesn't mean one must rush to such a conclusion to disregard John 1:1, John 1:14, John 8:58, Titus 2:13, Matthew 1:23, etc.

One thing I do agree with you on is to not trust man's interpretation. That's why I don't trust your interpretation, but trust what the Bible says. God bless you.

Respectfully,

Jesus was never "fully God & fully man" (that term is not found in scripture)

The man Christ Jesus is called the Christ, because he was annointed with the holy Spirit of his Father. This is the definition of the word; Christ - the annointed one.

When was he annointed? :

Luke 3:22

And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.

This is when the fulness of the Godhead (God the Father who is the Holy Spirit - John 4:24/ Leviticus 11:44) began to dwell in the body of His Son ( Colossians 2:9).

Not at His birth.

Yes, Jesus was born of the Holy Spirit (God the Father)-( Matthew 1:18) in the womb of a virgin.

But the Holy Spirit (God) did not begin to dwell in His Son until His baptism by John in the Jordan.. and only then did Jesus begin His 3.5 year ministry of miracles signs and wonders.

This is not my opinion, this is what the scripture declares.

As no one person is exactly the same as another. Just as well there is many different beliefs to interpreting the Scriptures. Which is said to have no private interpretation. ( 2 Peter 1:20-21.

As this has been discussed before I will put my portion. I do not say Jesus Christ is God the Father. He is the only begotten Son of God. Though He was more than just a "sinless" man. He was part man part God. Born of a virgin who was conceived by the Holy Ghost ( Matthew 1:20, Luke 1:30-35. Even at age twelve He astonished people who heard Him. He knew God was His Father then Luke 2:47-49. To me showing He did not just receive the Holy Ghost(Spirit of God) at His water baptism in the Jordan. If the sign of the Spirit descending from Heaven like a dove was for just a sign for John or for His supernatural powers only God knows. John 1:32-34.

If some think that believing Jesus Christ is more that just a man is taking something away from the Father. God wants us to honor His Son as He is the only way to the Father. Scriptures pointing to Him being more than "just" a man John 3:12-13, John 3:33-35, John 3:38, John 8:54-58, John 17:3-5, Colossians 1:12-20, Hebrews 1:1-4.

Also titles Jesus Christ, the Son of God, uses like Alpha and Omega(first and last) in the beginning of Revelation. The Lamb of God, Jesus Christ, being King of kings and Lord of Lords Revelation 17:14. Also the Word of God and King of kings and Lord of lords given to the man riding the white horse out of Heaven. I believe is Jesus Christ.

Besides all of the miracles He performed. Him being transfigured on the mountain Matthew 17:2.

There is one True Holy Living Almighty God. Saying the Father, Word, and Holy Ghost are one. Also as how many verses I have that state the Spirit of Christ, the Spirit of God, and the Holy Ghost are in us after being saved. To me showing Jesus Christ is the Word of God and one with God and the Holy Ghost.

Praise be to our Lord Jesus Christ and our Father in Heaven.

OnlytruthintheworldKJV, you were concerned of the time and dates on the 70th week ending and feel there is 3 years left. There are not any dates or time in the scriptures so we have to look at the recorded dates in history. This is the closest dates I can find in history records but it should be within a margin of erra, may it answer your doubts.

The 70 weeks of 7= 490 years. 483 years when Jesus was baptized. History places this around 29AD. Jesus' ministry was 3 years by the number of Passovers Jesus went to according to scriptures. We are at 486 years. Stephen's death is recorded around 36AD. This is around the same time Jesus stopped confirming the New Covenant through is Apostils and Peter had his dream and went to Cornelius and the gospel went to the Gentiles.

This prophecy was determined upon Israel and Jerusalem not the world, and these six things were to be fulfilled. See for yourself if these were fulfilled by Jesus. 1 To finish the transgression ( Isaiah 53:5, 8) ( Hebrews 9:15-18) 2. To make an end of sins ( Matthew 1:21) ( Hebrews 10:8-11) ( 1 John 3:5) ( Romans 8:3) 3. To make reconciliation for iniquity ( Colossians 1:20-22) ( Isaiah 53:6) ( Titus 2:14) ( 2 Corinthians 5:18-19) 4. To bring in everlasting righteousness ( Romans 5:17-21) ( 2 Corinthians 5:21) 5. To seal up vision and prophecy ( Daniel 9:23) ( John 6:27) ( Mark 1:14-15) 6. To anoint the most holy ( Hebrews 9:6-14).

The 3 years in Revelation starts when Satan is cast down and gives his power to the beast, not connected with the 70 weeks. If not clear its ok.

God bless Andrew, Ron

Dear Chris,

A. Paul makes no reference to a warning about the Assyrian siege & hearing the word of God in other languages (the Assyrians were pagans, and the word of God was been only written in Hebrew).

Paul is showing forth that Isaiah's prophecy is showing that tongues are for a sign to them that believe not.

B. You say you appeal to the scriptures, yet cleave to doctrines of men such as Tertullian etc. Both Tertullian and Sabellius (originator of the oneness/modalism heresy) were theologians/witchdoctors & wolves crept in unawares.

There is no issue with the divinity of Christ. The deity of Christ is His Father: God.

2 Corinthians 5:19 (KJV) 19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation

God was in Christ.

It doesnt say God was Christ or Christ was God. It says Christ was/is the Son of God. Flesh and blood cannot reveal this to you.

This is the very definition of the word Christ: the annointed one.

He was annointed with the Holy Spirit of His Father @ his baptism by John in the Jordan river. Hallelujah!

That was when the Word (God) was made flesh.

He then began his 3.5 year ministry of miracles signs and wonders.

Furthermore as per the heretical doctrine of the "trinity": there are 3 "co-equal triune" deities.

Matthew 1:18 KJV

18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.

So did Jesus have two Fathers?

"God the Holy Ghost" AND God the Father (the only true God)..???

I beseech you in the name of Jesus Christ to come away from the teachings of men & rome (MYSTERY BABYLON MOTHER OF HARLOTS) and all her "protestant" daughters, & read & believe the word of God AS IT IS WRITTEN.

This is your 2nd & final admonition.

I will pray for you, Chris, & I remain here for you in the gospel of Jesus Christ ( Acts 2:38)

Be well.

Revelation 22:13

I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

That said , Jehovah has no beginning nor ending. The Holy Spirit always was.

The Son of God, Jesus Christ, however; was born of a virgin - Matthew 1:18

Samuel,

When you look at the kings of the United Kingdom of Israel, Saul, David and Solomon, they ALL had fatal flaws, but in spite of that fact, David was a man after God's own heart...

"And when he had removed him, he raised up unto them David to be their king; to whom also he gave testimony, and said, I have found David the son of Jesse, a man after mine own heart, which shall fulfil all my will." Act 13:22

Following Solomon's reign, the kingdom split and very very few of the kings displayed any heart toward God and as a result the Assyrians and Babylonians invaded their countries and took captives.

Josiah was one of the very few who had a heart for God like is "father" David.

"And he did that which was right in the sight of the LORD, and walked in all the way of David his father, and turned not aside to the right hand or to the left." 2Ki 22:2

David and Josiah both show up in Jesus' genealogy in Matthew 1:6,10, and, yes, Amon is there too, but was NOT like David...

"Amon was twenty and two years old when he began to reign, and he reigned two years in Jerusalem. And his mother's name was Meshullemeth, the daughter of Haruz of Jotbah. And he did that which was evil in the sight of the LORD, as his father Manasseh did. And he walked in all the way that his father walked in, and served the idols that his father served, and worshipped them: And he forsook the LORD God of his fathers, and walked not in the way of the LORD." 2Ki 21:19-22

Anyone viewing the live feed webcam of the Icelandic Volcano nighttime eruptions? Pretty awe inspiring.

Okay Mishael, I don't want to rub it in but your convert here misses you. Just talked to my Nigerian brother Minister Patrick, He is well and sounds hopeful. He knows of no one personally who has died of Covid19 but does know the loss of a close friend that was kidnapped and later murdered this past January. Prayer is definitely desired but life goes on for most that stay close to their villages where they are more understood by their love. Phone call brought up the subject of running a little village Christian school. So looks like a bank trip sometime soon. :)

Four Horsemen: Book of Revelation, Zechariah and Book of John (Patmos)

The four horsemen are described as Satan's army, Conquest, War, Famine and Death. One of the horsemen, Famine, deceives Satan with the intention of working for the side of good.

Four figures in the Book of Revelation who symbolize the evils to come at the end of the world: They are often called the four horsemen of the Apocalypse=

The figure representing CONQUEST rides a white horse

WAR rides a red horse

FAMINE, a black horse

PLAGUE and PESTILENCE, (world pandemic) a pale horse. They are often called the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse.

Personally, I believe conquest is the subverting of world governments or political power. The Antichrist goal is to produce one world government and one world religion. Also, one world money system, which the Beast will use to deceive people into taking his Mark into their foreheads or hands: in order to buy and sell goods.

Different Bible translations say of Matthew 24: plagues, pestilence. Our society calls it world pandemics. It's a disguise for the truth told to us 2000 years ago.

All these things are happening together in THIS century; Jesus told us these are the signs of the last generation of people.

Keep watch on world money systems changing to create the One World Money System. Such as bitcoins and other manipulations. Don't fall into the trap thinking governments cannot possibly de-value the money, gold, silver and precious stones, minerals.

Revelation 6:1-8

Mishael

To add to the call to pray for the Country of Nigeria:

I'm challenging everyone to call their local Christian radio stations, to play this song frequently. It stirs my soul. We possess power to turn the evil to glory, for the Lord Jesus Christ.

"Wake Up America" by Terry Talbot

What book talks about when the horse saw the spirit of death.

Thank you Jesse, I support what you have written. On Churches today, and I do not feel that it is wrong for a paid ministry and paid positions within a church, but it does make it very difficult to be obedient to some of the Church teachings read in the scriptures due to bias.

Carleton

Carleton,

This reminded me of the man that was involved in sexual immorality in 1 Corinthians. This man was committing fornication with his step mother and the church was not doing anything about it. Paul gave them instruction that if he did not repent, they had to remove him from fellowship until he repented.

Well, they ended up removing him. But what happened is that after this man was removed and he repented, they didn't want to let him back in. When I read that they did not want to let him back in, I was a little humored by that. I thought to myself, "Here's a church that doesn't follow instruction very well!" Paul gave them instruction to let him back in. They wouldn't let him back in and Paul addressed that also in 2 Corinthians.

Paul says in 1 Corinthians 5:5 to deliver such a one unto Satan, notice this: for the destruction of the flesh that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

In Galatians Chapter 6, Paul says that if someone is overtaken by a sin, he says you who are spiritual, restore such a one. No matter what discipline is involved, it always must be to reach the goal of restoration.

I think the whole point is to deliver such a one over to Satan. If they want their sin, and they don't want to repent, but they still want to fellowship in the church, give them over to Satan.

Separate them from fellowship so that their flesh will be destroyed. But the goal is so that their spirit will be saved in the day of the Lord. So it's not punishment. It's for their own good. A saved person who is removed from the fellowship will not be able to stay away for very long before they repent.

You gave a great testimony of true repentance and how the church should deal with such a one involved in sin. I wish churches today would follow this teaching Paul gave instead of ignoring things in fear of losing members, or fear of getting sued.

I do have to say that this is the first time I ever heard of a brother or sister asking to be removed.

Im new to the online bible study, but reading the bible and knowing our Father i believe he is always there. We all fall, he picks us back up its rough at times but through Jesus we are forgiven

Amen to you Carleton ,i come on here to be encouraged and comforted in these dark times ,im sometimes conflicted as i see the end approaching ,a little nervous because i belive times are going to get tougher for most of us but mostly im very excited because Christ is coming !!! Theres no possible better future for any of us ,stay strong and rejoice !

Hello Jesse, My work requires a few short nights of sleep and tonight is another one. Until tomorrow.

This website has been an encouragement for me in my Christian life this day. I wish all a nice rest.

Thank you!

Carleton

Thank you Jesse for the encouragement! I have witnessed once before a born again member that (I can't remember the sin) that had fallen into some kind of sin and had been asked by the church to repent. It was near the time I became aware of his condition that he very much wanted restoration, he cried out earnestly for grace and claimed he was not finding it. Time went on for awhile and he felt he was not forgiven. Eventually, might have been a week or two or a month and the church with the brother's desire, separated him officially from the fold. The same night he went home and prayed and found forgiveness and peace. The following day he was re- accepted as a faithful full member of the church. This event is at least one of two that I have seen with my own eyes where clearly there was darkness then light again after once being born again.

Carleton

Hello again Carleton,

I actually read through your post a couple times. My thoughts are that the Holy Spirit never left you, even though you may have gone your own direction for a short time.

I believe that when we stray, God deals with us. I don't believe a true believer can ever separate themselves from God's Spirit who dwells in us. I believe that when we go off in our own direction, God's Spirit is still with us.

A true believer can not stray for very long because God's Spirit that lives in us brings conviction.

Although we can break our fellowship with the Lord, I don't believe His Spirit ever leaves us. Fellowship can be broken but the relationship as a child of God remains the same.

I've gone through periods in my walk with the Lord where I strayed from Him. But I know His Spirit never left me. And because His Spirit permanently abides in me, He brings conviction and deals with me, and that is why I always come back.

I personally don't believe salvation can ever be lost. God's Spirit indwells every believer. When we receive the Spirit, we receive Christ, and He has promised to never leave us nor forsake us.

All glory to God for bringing you back into fellowship with Christ. No matter how many times a believer strays, He will always be there to convict them and bring them back into perfect fellowship.

Hi Jesse, I can give an example of my early Christian life prior to marriage. I was likely 33 at the time. I fell back into a willing what I call death sin and lost my peace and fulness of the Holy Ghost. It was more like the Holy Ghost was back outside of me pleading for my return. As you mentioned Jesse I had to find complete repentance for the full restoration of the Holy Ghost leading and protecting me from inside myself. It is a much more difficult path to find restoration than the original born again experience because I knew so much more. To separate myself from the sin and then to seek repentance was a real battle and it took me nearly six months to find the grace to separate and truly repent. As far as the lost state, I believe the call to repentance by Jesus through the Holy Ghost was persistant and always nearby. However I knew if I did not return to my earlier state of the Indwelling Holy Spirit I was lost, and perhaps in worse condition that my pre-born again condition. I hope this experience is helpful to someone out there.

Carleton

Don,

Sin after salvation does not cancel out salvation. If that were the case, we would have to be saved over and over again. When we are saved, we enter into a permanent relationship with Jesus Christ. I believe what happens when a saved believer commits an act of sin, the believer's fellowship with Christ is disrupted until we confess and repent of that sin, but our relationship as a son/daughter with Christ never changes.

If you are saved now, God's Spirit has sealed your spirit, and it by His grace that you will endure in your salvation until He comes to redeem His possession, which is you and I.

Dose sin arter salvation cancel salvation?

The spirit of the Lord is victorious, in every way and we should just live trusting and fearing our almighty God.

Hi Dawn,

Genesis 5. Genealogy

Here's why Cain is not in the Genealogy, 1st.

Genesis 4:11, And now art thou cursed from the earth, which hath opened her mouth to receive thy brother's blood from thy hand;....12...13...

14: BEHOLD, THOU HAST DRIVEN ME OUT THIS DAY FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH; AND-

"""FROM THY FACE SHALL I BE HID""";

2nd.

The first 5 chapters was on the creation the next section is on Noah and the flood, The Emphasis on this Genealogy is on Adam, " The first man" to Noah.

Hebrew:

Transliteration: 'dm

Pronunciation: aw-dawm'

Definition: The same as H120; {Adam} the name of the first {man} also of a place in Palestine: - Adam.

KJV Usage: Adam(9x).

In the next division in Genesis you see a Genealogy in Ch 10 he does the same thing, you see a Genealogy of Noah with certain characters like Nimrod highlighted setting up the brief story of him in ch 11 before he gives us the story of Abraham. Again you see the family of Abraham listed as you go to ch 12 with the story of Abraham focusing just on lineage of the preceding character.

Here's another example Matthew 1:1-2 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.

Abraham begat "ISAAC"; and Isaac begat "JACOB"; and Jacob begat Judas and his brethren;

Have you noticed no mention of Ishmael or Essau?

Because the focus is on Jesus to king David. this Genealogy goes through Solomon but the Genealogy in Luke goes through Nathan, One giving the legal line to the thrown and the other giving the blood line to the thrown.

I hope that clears this up for you because I don't know why one would suggest that God would bless a biological birth from Satan, Only God can permit Life.

03-12-2021 / 1-901-574-3995 ? Why After Looking @ Isaiah 7:10-14 Prophesied 750 Before Christ Virgin Birth and Fulfillment Of ABBA'S Son Was Born; Choose To Not Use These Isaiah 7:10-15 This Scriptures In Matthew 1:22-23 ; Why Does The World Call Him Jesus from The Latin Version / Translation IESUS Was Used In The 1611 Bible Until 1629 & In 1630 Someone Change It To Jesus????

Revealed To From Our ABBA; J.E.S.U.S.= Jehovah s.e.n.t. Emmanuel 2 Save Us Sinners;

"J.E.H.O.V.A.H.= Jehovah, Emmanuel & Holy-Ghost, Verdict Against Humanity"

"Jehovah s.e.n.t. Emmanuel by Holy Ghost, Overshowed A Virgin named Mary 2 Atone Humanity" "Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.

But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost. "

John 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. "s,e,n,t,= Son / Saviour & Spirit 4 Emancipation 4 Eternal-Life N New Testament"

gd is not dead

Please pray that GOD will encourage me and lift my spirit. I have been abused by those who have Satan's mindset in them for so long, even today I couldn't bare to look outside at the bright sunshine. I had to close the curtains back. I LOVE the sunshine, and we haven't had it in so long with the rain, clouds, and dreary skies. Typically ANY light from the LORD's sky gives me a boost in the room that I live in, but today, I just closed the curtains back and cried.

GOD has hope available to me, and He seems to have tried to keep my spirit from crying at times, so that I'd keep trying to get out of this bad situation. And HE DID help me in that for a LONG time! The crying was temporary--for a few minutes and even that only, came after our LORD and Father (GOD) had His Holy Spirit or/and heavenly angel(s) tell my soul not to go there (start crying) but to instead, keep going.

Typing this actually made me feel better.

Thank you to all who have prayed for me before (not that anyone knows who I am, but I KNOW that I think it was last year maybe, that I KNEW SOMEONE on this site or elsewhere had prayed for me--there was a CHANGE!!!! I can't say that I recall ever having experiened that before--but someone had prayed FOR ME. I could only pray to GOD to bless whomever that was. I hope that that helped them, because they helped me!

PLEASE be encouraged, and remember, that your Father is GOD! Your family--the men who are your fathers and brothers that GOD created--they consist of at least TWO kings (King David and King Solomon are two of our earthly fathers--you can see our family lineage in Matthew 1:1-21). We are descendants of Abraham (we are the promise GOD made unto him: "...I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the sea shore...."), his son Issac, and Jacob, who later became Israel after a blessed wrestling match ( Genesis 32:27-28)!

GOD witnesses ALL done2&4us! Thank u all who pray, and thank u 2 this site