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I believe it was to clearly point out the fulfillment of Prophecy. Please see:

Son of David prophecy : 1Kings 9:5, Jeremiah 33:17, 2Chronicles 7:18, Psalms 132:11,

The coming promise of deliverance : Jeremiah 23:5, Jeremiah 33:15, proclaimed: Matthew 22:24,43,44,45, Matthew 1:1,

Luke 18:38, some identified JESUS as by different names for significance to themselves, healer, deliverer

Son of GOD : Genesis 6:2,4, Daniel 3:25, Matthew 8:29, Matthew 14:33, Matthew 27:54, Mark 1:1, Luke 1:35, Romans 8:14, Matthew 11:27,

Son of Man : prophecy : Daniel 7:13-14, Revelation 1, Genesis 3:15, Ezekiel 30:1-4, Job 25:4-6, Job 35:8-16, Matthew 24:30, proclaimed : Mark 14:21, John 12, Matthew 11:19,

Additionally he was called the BRANCH : Job 14:7, Psalms 80:15, Isaiah 11:1, Isaiah 14:19, Jeremiah 23:5, Zechariah 3:8, Zechariah 6:12, proclamed: John 15,

Also "shall be called Nazarene " Matthew 2:23,

Hopefully this is helpful

I'm not sure what you mean by asking about calling Jesus the son of David, but there is this verse:

Matthew 1:1

The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.

Circular arguments on this topic remind me of an Abbott and Costello "who's on first" skit. In case anyone isn't aware, here are some scriptures describing one God with three components: father, son, and holy spirit. We likely will never 100% comprehend God nor should we expect to, but the fact is the Bible describes God as a triune Godhead, uses plural terms, says the three are "one", and I will trust God's Word over man's word. Christians will keep sharing the truth of the scriptures everytime someone tries to challenge God's word.

Godhead:

Colossians 2:9

Acts 17:29

Romans 1:20

John 1:1

1 John 5:7-8

Genesis 1:26

Genesis 11:6-7

John 10:30

John 8:19

Philippians 2:5-8

2 Corinthians 5:19

John 1:3

Matthew 28:19

1 Peter 1:2

2 Corinthians 13:14

Deuteronomy 6:4

John 14:10

John 20:28

1 John 2:22-24

Matthew 1:23-25

Isaiah 7:14 - Jesus is called Immanuel which means "God with us"

Genesis 10:22-23

The children of Shem; Elam, and Asshur, and Arphaxad, and Lud, and Aram. And the children of Aram; Uz, and Hul, and Gether, and Mash.

Genesis 22:21

Huz his firstborn, and Buz his brother, and Kemuel the father of Aram,

Numbers 23:7

And he took up his parable, and said, Balak the king of Moab hath brought me from Aram, out of the mountains of the east, saying, Come, curse me Jacob, and come, defy Israel. [Moab is east of Israel]

1 Chronicles 1:17

The sons of Shem; Elam, and Asshur, and Arphaxad, and Lud, and Aram, and Uz, and Hul, and Gether, and Meshech.

1 Chronicles 2:23

And he took Geshur, and Aram, with the towns of Jair, from them, with Kenath, and the towns thereof, even threescore cities. All these belonged to the sons of Machir the father of Gilead.

1 Chronicles 7:34

And the sons of Shamer; Ahi, and Rohgah, Jehubbah, and Aram.

Matthew 1:3-4

And Judas begat Phares and Zara of Thamar; and Phares begat Esrom; and Esrom begat Aram;

And Aram begat Aminadab; and Aminadab begat Naasson; and Naasson begat Salmon;

Luke 3:33

Which was the son of Aminadab, which was the son of Aram, which was the son of Esrom, which was the son of Phares, which was the son of Juda,

Aram also known as Aramea, was a historical region including several Aramean kingdoms covering much of the present-day Syria, southeastern Turkey, and parts of Lebanon and Iraq

Aram, Ancient country, Middle East, southwestern Asia. It extended eastward from the Anti-Lebanon Mountains to beyond the Euphrates River.

So the bands from Aram stopped raiding Israel's territory. Some time later, Ben-Hadad king of Aram mobilized his entire army and marched up and laid siege to Samaria.

Today it's part of Syria Jordan Israel Lebanon.

You'll have to Google ancient Bible Maps to see the areas described.

2Peter 3:8, Psalms 90:4,

Genesis 7:11, Exodus 12:1,2,

Matthew 1:17,

Hopefully these are helpful

Matthew 1:21 kjv: And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS:

for he shall save his people from their sins.

Yes Amen Jesus loves us but his love is as a Bridegroom....He wants to know us thats when the good seed is own in our hearts....Thats y the sower of the good seed wants to sow his seed in our hearts that we might be bornagain of an incorruptible seed...Even by the words of God as Peter says

.....Unless the lord of the sabbath had left us a seed we wd have been made like unto Sodom and Gomarrah...But the lord has left us a seed which are the words of the book in the right hand of the Father....the Words of life... Romans 9 : 29 KJV

...God so loved the world that he gave his only son...The living Word are the seeds of God...And to whom the word came it made them Gods...Meaning we are gonna be married to God...A marriage is when 2 are made 1...As a young man marries a virgin so shall thy God marry thee as the Bridegroom rejoices over the Bride so shall thy God rejoice over thee.... Isaiah 62 : 5...We are gonna be married to God ...ty Jesus

Right back to you. Go ye into all of your world and tell someone that Jesus loves them.

Jesus loves y'all! THANK you for your commitment in sharing the Gospel! Acts 2:38

Landon

The Results of His Work:

(1) He ascended to His Father ( Luke 24:49-53; Acts 1:6-11).

(2) He is our eternal Mediator ( 1 Timothy 2:5; Hebrews 8:6; 1 John 2:1.

(3) He is our Savior: "Thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins" ( Matthew 1:21, KJV). "Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Savior, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins" ( Acts 5:31, KJV).

He is the only Savior. "Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved" ( Acts 4:12, NIV).

He is a complete Savior. "Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them" ( Hebrews 7:25, KJV).

He is a personal Savior. "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness: and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation" ( Romans 10:9, 10, KJV).

The Consummation of His Work:

(1) He shall return again to this earth ( Acts 1:11; Hebrews 10:37; John 14:3).

(2) Believers in Christ shall be bodily resurrected to begin a new, undying life ( 1 Thessalonians 4:17-18; 1 Corinthians 15:51-58).

(3) He will reign as King of kings and Lord of lords over His new creation ( 2 Peter 3:10-13; Revelation 22:3-5).

God Bless

JC

Genesis 37:5-11, Genesis 40:5-22, Genesis 41, Deuteronomy 13:1-4, Job 7:14, Jeremiah 29:8, sometimes dreams come because of movies we watched, "you caused to be dreamed" Ecclesiastes 5:3,

Genesis 20:3, Numbers 12:6, Jeremiah 23:28, Matthew 1:20, Matthew 2:12,13,19,22, Books of Daniel 2, 4, 7, Matthew 27:19,

Acts 2:17

Hopefully these are helpful

GiGi Thank you for your thoughts as all such always help with further understanding.

Best regards

Roy

Cissi

Thank you for your reply and yes most helpfull

Regards

Roy

Hi Roy, Before the flood the diet was only fruit of the vine and herbs of the field. After the flood animal meat was allowed, but only clean animals, as the unclean animals feed off other animals (alive or dead) and can cause us to get diseases as a result. They lived hundreds of years before the flood and the Bible tells us that we are given up to 80 years for a life span (anything over is a plus, right?) At different stages of history that has been shorter or longer due to famines, disease, and war, but the Bible clearly states in Psalms 90:10 how long a lifespan for man. A Hebrew year was 360 days. Hope this helps, Cissi

Hello Roy,

Thank you for your testimony. I have been a believer all of my life and I am now 65. Last night I was thinking about my testimony being a boring one in comparison to others who lived many years in unbelief. I don't have knowledge nor experience of being far from God in rebellion and unbelief and then coming to faith. But as I thought more about this, I just have to admit that I have had a blessed life to be called to Jesus at so young of an age. I grew up in a believing home and was taught who Jesus was and what He did for my salvation as early as I can remember. I embraced this truth eagerly and believed in Jesus deeply as a child and this faith remained in me throughout my life. I am thankful for how God called me to Him. He spared me a lot of grief.

In response to your post, I just want to say that I do not think that God liked mankind less and less the more they sinned before the flood nor after. Our sin grieved Him and He hated our sins, but the Bible clearly tells us across the pages of Scripture, that God loves mankind and it never changes. Yet some will receive His salvation through His grace and mercy and believe in Jesus, and many more will reject Him. But He still loves each person He creates the same. The difference to us is that those who do not believe in Him will be recipients of His holy wrath in the judgment, spending eternity without Him, and those who believe will receive His favor in redemption and spend eternity with Him.

But God's love for mankind does not lesson because we sin. Our fellowship with Him is impaired when we sin, but that is our doing, a lack of love for Him on our part, not a reduction of love to us from Him on His part.

Hope this helps.

Donna.

Why the son of man?

Part 3 of 3.

Summary

The Son of Man is a title that was used exclusively by Jesus - His disciples never addressed Him as such. Jesus used it to emphasize His humanity. The title goes back to the Book of Daniel where the Son of Man would inherit the everlasting kingdom of God. It is a designation of the Messiah. At His trial Jesus acknowledged that He indeed was the Son of Man - the one who would bring in God's everlasting kingdom. When the religious leaders heard this they accused Him of blasphemy - making Himself equal with God. The purpose of the title seems to be Jesus' own emphasis on His humanity.

By Don Stewart.

Side note:

The revelation of the Lord coming by miraculous birth was given to them as a sign by Isaiah. but I guess that didn't explain his humanity. after all Immanuel means God with us. Matthew 1:23.

Moreover the LORD spake again unto Ahaz, saying,

Ask thee a sign of the LORD thy God; ask it either in the depth, or in the height above.

But Ahaz said, I will not ask, neither will I tempt the LORD.

And he said, Hear ye now, O house of David; Is it a small thing for you to weary men, but will ye weary my God also?

Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. Isaiah 7:14.

I believe Jesus humanity ties to the kinsman redeemer instituted by Moses in Leviticus 25:48-49.

And you also see it carried out in the book of Ruth.

In Revelation 5:2-5. you see John weep because no one was able to loosen the seven seals. For one you had to be worthy and second you had to be a kinsman. "John was looking for a MAN" Jesus humanity qualified him.

I hope that helps.

God bless.

Hello Roy

My apology as the scripture I meant to use was

Galatians 5:13 rather than 3:13.

May make more sense!

Ty

Hi Rich

Fascinating dialogue and a brand new line of thought for me to consider. I appreciate the time you have taken to deliberate on my question and provide me with this opportunity to widen my thinking.

Very best regards Roy

I wanted to clarify that astrological seasons existed before the flood from the creation of heavenly bodies on the 4th day. The ability to measure life spans in years also came from astrological observations beginning with Adam. The vapor canopy would have made seasonal variations in heat and cold much less extreme. It also appears rain occurred for the first time at the flood. Prior to that a mist watered the entire earth, which would have been more gentle and dependable.

However, after the flood seasons became clearly associated with greater variations in heat and cold, rain and much more distinct planting and harvesting cycles. Additionally the number of observable stars increased. Man's dependence on tracking the seasons rose in importance for survival and the heavens became more fascinating, which contributed to connecting worship with men that possessed some understanding of the heavens. They led man in a transference of worship from God to the visible objects that held sway over human lives. Thus Babel and man's desire to aspire to greater knowledge connecting man to the heavens corrupted worship and led God to judge mankind with divisions that shifted their focus away from having a single culture unified in such false worship.

There is actually a lot of clues on how significantly the world changed after the flood that prove Peter's point that the world Noah inhabited was truly destroyed and a new world emerged. Stating all things have continued unchanged from the beginning of creation and that all can be known by projecting all currently observable processes infinitely into the past is a lie. If you had never seen an egg and only projected what you could now see in an omelet infinitely into the past, would you come up with an egg?

Dear "Roy" In God it would be a nother world! Absolutely not like we see, hear all the noice! Belive that for your own sake.

Be blessed from Acts 19:21-41 Love u in Christ

Thank you for your response and the logical position you offer . Most definitely food for thought.

Regards Roy

Thank you. I quite like the idea that at the beginning GOD liked what he had made and gave it perhaps intended to give it immortality. Then IP pops Satan and Sin and the more men progressively and collectively sinned GOD liked them less and less and in direct proportion reduces the life span of man. Perhaps slowly down to the Crucifixion and the gift of everlasting life with the forgiveness of sins. After that GOD allows men to develop and medical research and practice began to have effect.. I am not atall sure that I want to live in this world for a 900 years anyway.

Regards. Roy

I would also point out that the first 6 generations all lived 895 to 930 years, with Afam living the longest of those generations.

Genesis 5:5,8,11,14,17,20

The next 3 generations had widely varying ages. Enoch lived 365 years and was translated rather than died - Genesis 5:23. Enoch is the first clearly identified prophet and his age and ages of the next two generations that died before the flood had prophetic significance. Enoch's age is a solar year of days as we now understand it, even though there is strong evidence that at that time a lunar calendar with years of 360 days was used. Methuselah lived the longest at 965 years - Genesis 5:27. Methuselah died the year the flood came and I believe his name means "When he dies it will come". Lemach lived 777 years and died 5 years before the flood - Genesis 5:31. I should not need to point out the significance of the number 7 in prophesy.

Noah is the last generation to live over 900 years at 950 years - Genesis 9:29.

The generations after Noah all have significantly shorter life spans after the flood. I believe this due in part to the loss of the water vapor canopy surrounding the entire earth that was created on the second day of creation. That canopy I believe protected mankind from virtually all solar radiation. Volcanic activity that condensed the canopy and that ultimately broke up the waters of the great deep also increased particulates in the atmoshere. Increased solar radiation and particulates probably contributed to increased mutations and cancers in both man and animals. The removal of the canopy also introduced seasons and a wider variations in global temperature zones along with seasonal extremes leading to famine. Combined with a change from a purely vegetarian diet to an omnivorous diet, new pathways for cross-species transmission of viruses of other disease agents may have created more pestilence. The division at Babel led to more wars. The birth pangs of Revelation took hold.

Hello Roy,

Wonderful question and I would suspect that the majority of us have pondered this at some moment in our lives.

Over the years I have read(heard) many illogical and unbiblical answers. So what we all would like to know is how did Noah really live to be 950 years old!? Was the length of a year different? Did the Earth spin faster?(small joke)

I will offer what I believe to be a biblical view that coincides with many a scripture.

Romans 8:13-17

We know that the first man in creation, being Adam, was formed in God's image, His perfection. Man formed in perfection. The closer we get to the first generations of God's creation the more God-like I believe they must have been.

Galatians 3:13 Jeremiah 17:5-6

Once sin began to take course the following generations began to suffer. As time passed and we come to Moses, he only lived to be 120.

I believe that in the Garden of Eden God's creation of man had fallen due to the fall of man. In other words, had sin not infiltrated the generations of man we would still be having a conversation, today, with men of long ago. Imagine having children at 100, or serving our Lord for 900 years. I can't even fathom. Those first men must also have shared Much more in common with God than we do. Today we are "built cheap" because of sin.

Another thought if I may. During the fall in Eden God also cursed the ground. Imagine what our world would be today.

I hope that this helps to understand the question of time being different in the OT days vs modern day.

God Bless you brother

A question not related to Mathew or even to the New Testament but to the Old Testament and that relates to the extreme long levity of many of the people referred to.

Is there some different interpretation or understanding as to how long a year was during the era of the Old Testament?

Medical evidence suggests that the average life of a man at that time would probably have been less than 30 years.

Thanks for your help

Roy

All these Old Testament scriptures, and the Pharisees and Sadducees did not even perceive that Jesus was the Son of God (Son of Man). He did not behave what THEY THOUGHT the son of God should look like and behave. They saw people being healed - but they thought he was possessed. Here's the Godhead scriptures.

The Scriptures about the Godhead. Sometimes called "Let Us..." in some passages. These scriptures are evidence of all 3 persons of the Godhead speaking to each other.

Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7

Isaiah 6:8

Romans 1:20

Colossians 2:9

Acts 17:27-30

1 John 5:7

John 10:30

"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and GODHEAD so that they are without excuse:"

Genesis 1:1

The Father purposes

The Word (Jesus) speaks. ( John 1:1)

The Spirit (Holy Spirit) executes the spoken word. Action.

All working together. Jesus came to show us the Father, as Emmanuel.

Matthew 1:23

Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God WITH US.

Mishael

Most of them we can't . Love is our law now . God loved us so much that He gave us His only begotten Son and His Son loved us so much that he willingly offered himself as the perfect sinless sacrifice to cover all of our sins . Please read Luke Ch 10 V 25-28 .

Thanks for sorting me out with the various titles

Best regards

Roy

Hi Roy, I don't really have the answers about applying Levitical laws. This topic has been talked about often on here.

But what I wanted to speak to was this. The Talmud was created during the Babylonian captivity, long after Leviticus was written. The Talmud is the interpretation of these laws by rabbis (who came into existence in this same captivity).

The first 5 books of the OT is called the Torah and the entire OT is called the Tanahk.

It is easy to mix these up because seem a bit similar.

I am also reading the Old Testament and have got to Leviticus which is the basic rules for practicing Jews as in The Talmud and is 3000 years old.

How do we relate these rules to modern day living?