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This is similar to Matthew 10:23 and focuses on the "Gospel of the Kingdom". In that case it will not be preached to all the cities of Israel before the Son of Man comes. Given there are comments on some being put to death; speaking in front of Kings; etc. it is claer that this journey went beyond this one ventue; beyond the Resurrection at least until the Apostles were all killed. The sentiment also seems to indicate during the first part of the Tribulation as found in 2 Cor. 12:14 as well as 2 Timothy as evidence of the last days. No doubt the 2 witnesses and probably some of the 144,000 will be witnessing to leaders.

Because of that logic; I would agree as to other scriptures in Thessalonians from the "Pauline" epistles; as well as Revelation itself indicating that there is indeed a rapture at the end of the Age of Grace; once the "restrainer" is removed. ( 2 Thess. 2:6-7).

We need to be aware; as Luke 21:36 states of His return; praying earnestly. This verse about praying to be worthy seems to indicate some indeed are left behind. At the very least; we have crowns to take hold of or lose reward if not remaining faithful as Rev. 3:11 indicates. 2 Tim. 4:8 shows this; and I just realized that Psalm 40:1 before what sounds like the world's reaction to the Rapture (verse 3) seems to show an indication of the merit of us patiently waiting as a cross reference as well. The theme of patience is mentioned throughout the O.T. and N.T.; Proverbs; Romans and Proverbs being just a few examples.

In the Tribulation; once again the Jews wil be prominent in evangelism. The "blindness in part" mentioned in Romans will be lifted ( Romans 11:25). As I state many times; by the sixth seal there will no longer be any atheists ( Rev. 6:16-17). Indeed; the Kingdom coming to earth will be finally realized in short order; after the "parenthesis" which occurred after AD 70; and continued until recent times. Also see Zech. 13:8 as to God's plan for Israel and Jer. 30:7.

The commentary seems to be correct in the beginning when he mentioned that Jesus was talking to His disciples about the end of time, but somehow lost the meaning that Matthew 24 talks about the Jews only.

Compare this chapter to 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18; 2 Thessalonians 2:3, and 1 Corinthians 15: 50-58. The messages of Jesus Christ is different messages than the Apostle Paul mentioned on the verses I sighted above. Paul revealed to Gentiles the mystery of the rapture. I really think that we Gentiles will be raptured before Matthew 24 takes place. I am convinced that some of us may still be alive when we meet Jesus in the cloud. This is the exciting part of waiting. We are in the Gospel of grace. The gospel of Paul. We try to saved as many family and friends we can saved. I pray that many will be saved. Do the readers see the timeline of events?

I'd like to add, if your friend is talking about Jesus being somewhere literally "to go out to see him" Jesus warned the Disciples & us 'not to believe it & not to go' please read Jesus' Words: Matthew 24:4-51, note Matthew 24:4,5,11, Matthew 24:23-27, again in: Mark 13:5-37, note: Mark 13:5-6, Mark 13:21-27,

Other than that, Adam & "Old Man Wilson" gave good scripture.

Yes, many refer to this event of Jesus followers being caught up in the air to meet Jesus as being a rapture.

Some believe its the same event as Matthew 24:39-44, but verse 39 likens it to the flood in which the unbelievers were taken away. Either way, we should be ready.

Amen GiGi,

Very well stated, and I totally agree with you.

It seems that many people get confused when interpreting Paul's writings. Paul preached the same gospel as Jesus, and Paul does NOT cancel anything that Jesus already stated in His Gospel, nor in His commands - including water baptism. I have observed that Paul has a way with his words that sometimes creates confusion, regarding interpretation, whereas there is usually NO confusion with the words that Jesus speaks!

Paul can NOT cancel any words that Jesus previously stated - including the command for baptism.

Yes, Peter was highly regarded by Jesus, and was instructed along with all of the apostles to go out in the world to preach "The Gospel" and "baptize believers" for the forgiveness of sins, and to receive the Holy Spirit.

Those that feel they can ignore the words that Jesus spoke, including His commands to us, should really read and contemplate on this scripture by Jesus:

Matthew 24:35

"Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away."

GBU

Yes, according to the Bible. It also depends on one's definition of "saved" and when this event occurs. Are people saved while still on earth instantly after they say their first prayer, at some point later, or are they saved after they are judged by God Himself? What does the Bible say...

1 Peter 1:5 - "...salvation ready to be revealed in the last time."

Matthew 24:13 "But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved."

Hebrews 10:36 "For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise."

1 Cor 9:24-27 "run the race" (not the race was already won.)

2 Peter 3:17

Luke 8:5-18

1 Timothy 4:1

2 Peter 2:20-22

Hebrews 3:12

Galatians 5:4

1 Corinthians 15:2-8

1 Corinthians 4:5

2 Corinthians 5:10 whether "good or bad". People are sorted at this time.

Matthew 12:32 "...but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come."

OSAS believers: "Ok, but a Christian would never do that."

Christians no longer have freewill to sin?" Joshua 24:15 "choose you this day whom ye will serve"

"OSAS: But no one has ever done that."

Sadly, many Christians fall away. Look at "ex-Christian" on Reddit with 107,000 members. Very prominent pastors have denounced faith and later denied Jesus is Lord.

Matthew 7:21-23

"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven."

Hebrews 10:26 "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,"

Hebrews 6:4-6

James 2:14-26 "...faith, if it hath not works, is dead..."

James 2:19 "Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble."

1 Peter 1:13 "...hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;"

Romans 11

John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments."

Matthew 12:31-32

Romans 14:12

God bless and pray for wisdom and truth.

Dear Michele do u have a good answer: 1000 years from where?

We look at the sight do we not? Thats why all the Apostels did think that Jesus willl come back in their time, as we do. :) Here i Personal think we die and go right up to Jesus. After this life we cant find another.

God bless us all the day Jesus said the work is done. It is finished, the gift was given on Pentecost.

But we have to wait for Him to come back anyway. Because He must cast the devil, the antichrist, and the beast into the sea that boils with fire and brimstone. The last war must come.

Amen. God bless us all in Jesus name.

Its true we are in the last days but 1000 years is a day to our heavenly Father..not man's time but Fathers time.

A hotly contested verse; but the alternate explanation needs to be given of the Transfiguration when 3 disciples saw Christ and 2 saints in a glorified state. This could have been literally a time travel into the future; it certainly revealed Christ in a different manner. Since these scriptures immediately come after this account that is the most likely explanation.

Another thing not mentioned is those O.T. saints that came out of their graves at the Resurrection. They would have seen Christ after Resurrected but not necessarily as He would return in His glory as the first example also seems to be lacking.

The events of AD 70 are argued by FULL Preterists as indicating the fulfillment of that prophecy in His generation. There are too many other clear scriptures that invalidate this; not the least of which are in John's account in Revelation. In AD 70 there were said to be many supernatural manifestations including that of visions of God and His glory. Still He didn't return physically back to earth at that time.

We could also examine us as believers that have gone from death to life spiritually. ( 1 John 3:14). Our spirit man will be present with the Lord after we die so we in a sense will still be alive (as Moses and Elijah were taking with Christ-Elijah of course was translated and never died physically). Of course we will not die once He comes back either; a lot depends on what "tasting death" means. Since the verse says "some of you" it clearly does not indicate the final fulfillment when every eye shall see Him.

If only the disciples heard it being said then the Transfiguration is a likely explanation; the cloud imagery could in some way relate to His second coming.

Ultimately this is a tough verse; but as with anything else we cannot let it stand alone. We cannot accept that Christ has physically returned to earth yet; or those who think He has returned in some mystical way. ( Matthew 24:26-etc). There is no mistaking that event.

Hi Dora,

Good question. I can offer an opinion on this topic.

I think it means that when Jesus returns or otherwise at the end of the world those who are alive will not taste death, because they're still alive and haven't died yet, and then the Christ followers will see the kingdom of God.

The phrase some standing here could mean people in the future may be standing in that same spot when Jesus returns. I saw that the basic English Bible interprets it as some who were standing there with Jesus (back then) wouldn't die before they see the kingdom of God. I think the former interpretation makes more sense.

There's a similar verse 1 Thessalonians 4:14-17 that refers to the dead as those asleep. It says the dead in Christ will rise first, then those who are alive will then be caught up in the air with Jesus. Some call this event a rapture.

Matthew 24:36-42 is another passage describing these end time events. God bless...

The saints do suffer tribulation

Please read Matthew 24, & Mark 13, Jesus' words : Matthew 24:4 "And Jesus answered and said unto them, take heed that no man deceive you" ._.._.._.. Matthew 24:7-9, "For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilence, and earthquakes, in diverse places.

All these are the beginning of sorrows.

Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my names sake." ._..

Matthew 24:13 "But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved." ._.._

Matthew 24:21-22 "For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be."

And except those days should be shortened, there shall no flesh saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened." ._._._.

Matthew 24:29-30 "immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of heaven shall be shaken:

And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory."

Also repeated in Mark 13,

Deuteronomy 4:30

Matthew 13:20-21

John 16:33

Acts 14:22

1Thessalonians 3:4,

Hopefully these are helpful in you study of the Word

Normally; after 12 comments some with great insight and spiritual depth I wouldn't attempt a response or deem it necessary.

There is; what I would call a "Corinthians" problem here. It is an inconvenient truth that according to passages there; some have "fallen asleep" not taking communion worthily; and others had been involved in gluttony; sexual immorality (even described as worse than pagans) and all sorts of other problems. There are other verses that describe some at the Bema Seat who have wood; hay and stubble burned up and are saved as through the fire; suffering loss (i.e. spiritual rewards). An important concept here is that God "chastises everyone he loves." ( Heb. 12:6). Such a fate could also be implied with God wiping out Ananias and Sapphira after they lied about their gift to God. If one's sin can cause premature death as the ultimate in chastisement (delivering the body to Satan so that the soul can be saved) ( 1 Cor. 5:5) then we need to be careful interpreting this parable.

We can; for instance look at "foolish virgins" being the left behind at the Rapture; but then if we interpret the end of the parable as "I never knew you" then we have a problem. It could possibly be interpreted as "I know you not." That brings up whether our garments are spotted and if the Rapture is a reward or salvation issue. It also can be looked as an analogy based on the Wedding guests in Biblical times; or possibly analagous to the 2nd Coming.

This; of course by no means takes away from the explanation that many aren't paying attention to the light flickering out. To buy the oil is strange; it could very well refer to the high cost of martyrdom in order to bear fruit in the height of the Tribulation the only way possible at that time. The outer darkness or as other scripture states the "portion with the hypocrites" ( Matthew 24:51) certainly could indicate being in the Tribulation and cut off from the rest of the Body of Christ. One can't lose salvation

The earlier comment would be true in regard of course to the two witnesses who the whole world sees dying and being resurrected. It is fairly clear that even in hades in the past communication existed between individuals (Lazarus and the rich man); and such events are also seen in the Transfiguration and indeed throughout Revelation where the saints of God are asking "how long" when still in a spirit form under the altar. There is also some time element here; eventually even those in hell will all come out of their graves for the "Great White Throne Judgment" and the saints of God of course are Raptured/Resurrected before that. (although some eschatologies think it happens all at once at that time).

We could; of course look to many "near death" and death documentaries. We can't validate the theological aspects of all types of experiences as true but there is a rather uniform description of having vision of all things around them (360 degree aspect) in many accounts. Physically; of course those who are still physically alive at His return will see Him come (as lightning goes from the east to the west). ( Matthew 24:27). We also have Hebrews 9:27; as well as other verses showing that we all stand before God immediately after death ( 2 Cor. 5:6 also). We have all tribes mourning when He comes back to earth ( Zechariah 12:12).

There seem to be some verses saying that places that have neither heard of his fame or seen His glory ( Isaiah 66:20) will do so and that implies during the Millennial reign (according to my eschatological view). So there may be a process until all see Him at least those still alive physically when He comes. Nonetheless; God is beyond time and sees all things in that perspective.

(Also God created all the physical aspects of creation so certainly rules over it and can supercede things as all the miracles TRULY of God attest).

Hope this helps. Agape. Rich P.

We need to keep in mind that even the elect would be decieved IF IT WERE POSSIBLE ( Matthew 24:24). God knows who are His own ( 2 Tim. 2:19). Man may make a determination who is a "saint"; although even the paltry hundreds the Catholic church honors are at times cherry picked to be "desainted".

We need to look carefully at such passages as the parable of the sower and the seeds. It gives us understanding that only those who persevere unto the end ( Matthew 24:13 near the other verse I quoted earlier) will be saved. What I hadn't considered until more recently is the reality that ALL (wheat and tares) start off in the same position; there is an immediate response to the gospel; then trials of this life along with temptations. His children ultimately will endure until fruit is produced; the tares will not.

It is sobering to know that even now true believers have 1 Cor 10:13 to stand on. The tares are unaware of their own true state. They may ascribe privledge as an advantage to following Christ as Lot's wife or Judas Iscariot illustrates. There are all sorts of reasons (personal pride; social status; self righteousness) that motivate some to continue to attend church and fellowship when their hearts are not truly in it.

A sobering passage to further verify that there is no hope for those tares is in Revelation 13:8. Satan is the god of this world and not only are all in sin and enemies of God without the cross; but if left behind will take the mark of the Beast. And that will be AFTER worshipping his image. Those who are forced to take the mark or die and refuse will be the Tribulation saints.

These verses also show us that even now we need to proclaim boldly the truth of Christ ( Matthew 10:32). Only God can give us this strength; a bitter lesson Peter had to learn in scripture.

These are dark days; and often those who call themselves believers are the most difficult to be around. May you continue to shine forth as salt and light.

Commentary for Matthew

Wesley's Notes for Matthew 24:5

Many shall come in my name - First, false Christs, next, false prophets, Mt 24:11. At length, both together, Mt 24:24. And indeed never did so many impostors appear in the world as a few years before the destruction of Jerusalem; undoubtedly because that was the time wherein the Jews in general expected the Messiah.

People's Bible Notes for Matthew 24:5

Come in my name. As the Messiah. We learn from Josephus that enthusiasts did come about the time of the end of Jerusalem, claiming to be sent of God. Bar-cocheba, "the son of the star", appeared in A.D. 120. From time to time other deceivers have appeared.

The Bible has been clear since a child being told learn the prayers as Jesus said, Psalms 23, Matthew 6:9-13. We are too suffer to turn to love God and follow his Son and live righteously and follow the 10 Commandments. (Leaving God for your own way does not work.) The Word comes alive and the Holy Spirit leads into all truth. Yes the Rapture will come 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17. 1 Corinthians 15:52 In a twinkling of an eye the trumpet will sound and the dead will rise and we are changed (we being His). The Holy Spirit came and we are freely offered to be one with the Lord. Matthew 24:27 For as lightning coming out of the east, and shineth even unto the west, so shall the coming of the Son of man be.

Why would Jesus followers and worshippers of God be left to suffer in tribulation when we are already changed. My guess is without insult is the Rapture non believers need to study more. The more I dug in with reading the Bible, praying on knees and going to church the more I heard the voice of the Lord. As a child I noticed after memorizing the prayers I heard His voice and he put on me to believe every word of the Bible. I knew never ever argue with the Bible, the Spirit fed me that always. You have to believe to feel or hear the Spirit confirm. The Bible comes alive when you know who you belong too. The Spirit has never once pointed out do not believe this verse. God is love and he wants you to love him, honor him, obey him. He wants to save you and he wants you to be ready for Jesus coming for his very own, we will meet the dead and the Lord in the air, 1 Thess4:17. Then when Jesus returns to wage war we will be with him. When you know God you know his promises to never leave you nor forsake you. When heaven opens and the Lamb of God comes to wage war, he will accompanied by his called and chosen and faithful ones, Revelation 17:14. Any doubt in your mind then work on being called and chosen and being a faithful one. Do right in His sight and believe. GBY

This is what I believe because it was Jesus own words. Amen

Philippians 2:12

1 Peter 1:5

1 Peter 1:13

Hebrews 10:26

Matthew 24:13

Hebrews 10:36

2 Corinthians 5:10

Many scriptures show that those who have been saved must still endure faithfully to the end. ( Matthew 24:13; Hebrews 10:36; 12:2, 3; Revelation 2:10)

First-century Christians expressed joy when they learned that fellow believers were enduring in their faith. ( 1 Thessalonians 1:2, 3; 3 John 3, 4)

Does it seem reasonable that the Bible would stress faithful endurance if those who did not endure would be saved anyway?

In view of direct scripture that says the second coming will happen immediately AFTER the tribulation, ( Matthew 24: 29-31), why do so many well known and even respected Christian leaders support the pre-trib. rapture position?

Annmeeks:

TRUTH:

You are the Body of Christ, HIS immortal life, you are a new creation, Christ is the LIFE, you are his BODY.

When he wants you to do great things HE (the Life) WILL CAUSE YOU and EMPOWER you; his BODY TO DO IT.

We are the Temple of God.

In the Old Testament the CLOUD; representative of the presence of God, overshadowed the Tent (old temple).

When the CLOUD moved the people moved; when the CLOUD set still the people set still.

You are now THE TEMPLE of God, the CLOUD, the presence of God, overshadows you, when he moves his people move, when he sets still his people set still.

Matthew 24:30 Then shall appear the sign of the son of man in heaven .....they shall see the son of man COMING IN THE CLOUDS of heaven.

Walk in truth.

God Bless You!

Matthew 24:3-51, Mark 13:3-37,

Note : Matthew 24:8, Matthew 24:7, Matthew 24:21-24, these are Jesus Words, Matthew 24:29, " Immediately after the Tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other." Matthew 24:29-31,

Please note: these all also recorded as Jesus Words : Mark 13:23, Mark 13:24-27, " But in those days after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken. And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. And then shall he send his angels, and shall togather his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven."

Revelation 6, note Revelation 6:10-11, Revelation 8, see Revelation 8:3-4, Revelation 9, Revelation 10, Note: Revelation 10:7, Revelation 11, Please notice: Revelation 11:15-19,

1Thessalonians 4:13-18, 1Thessalonians 5:1-10, 2Thessalonians 1:4-10, Please note: this was written after 1Thessalonians to clarify : 2Thessalonians 2, Please read: 2Thessalonians 2:3 "Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;"

2Peter 2:9,

Jesus Words again, praying for all believers: John 17, notable : John 17:15 " I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil."

Hopefully helpful

Anita,

Many people have tried to set dates on when Christ will return, and when the 7-year tribulation will begin. If your calculations are correct and this year passes by and the tribulation has not begun, then what? Do we set a different date? Many people in the past have set dates on the return of Christ, and those dates passed by with nothing happening. Are we even supposed to be setting dates on Christ's return?

If I may share this with you, in Matthew 24:34, it says, "Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled." People have taken the word generation and some have said that a generation is 40 years, some say 70 years, and some say 120 years, and then they predict a date on when Christ will return, and those dates have come and gone. You have put 80 years from May 11, 1949 as the date Christ will return.

Well, the problem with that is that this word generation has no association with years at all. The word generation means race or kind of people. GENEA is the word, and it means a race or kind of people.

GENEA has nothing to do with years. It is a race or kind of people. Basically, what Jesus is saying here, is this kind or race of people, (the Jews), shall not pass away until all these things be fulfilled. They are His elect. They are His protected people, His chosen people, and He will fulfill His promises to them.

@ Doug - in Reply on Matthew 22

You: "The reason I asked if you feel you have faith is because Romans 5:1 says being justified by faith we have peace with God. Your description of your life doesn't come across as peaceful. A complete belief and trust in God sets the mind at one with God to believe the things spoken in his word."

My life has never been peaceful. It's always something. Every day was/is a struggle. I'm still waiting for my dreams to come true and I'm pushing 70 yrs old.

I do believe in the things spoken in His Word.

Matthew 24:4-51 (describes what goes on in the end days, which we are in now.)

You: " It is hard for me to relate to the statement that you are always questioning God. Where are you coming from to think yourself or any person would be wiser than God. A key element to faith is patience and waiting. If we become impatient we can't see God's work fulfilled in us or others.

2 Peter 3:8

"But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing,

that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day."



A pastor once said that the end days started the day God raised Jesus from the dead and He appeared to over 500 and then they watched Him ascend into heaven and then on the day of Pentecost the Holy Spirit came down to earth.

Which means we've already been in the "last days" for the past 2000+ years, and it could go on for another 1000.

I know I'm not wiser than God. I'm dumb as a box of rocks. I get to look outside and see the world swirling down the toilet. People have gone mad. Pardon me if I'm a little nervous, wondering if today will be my last day alive. Then what? Have I messed up so badly I'll be kicked into the Lake of Fire or will I get to enter Heaven???

I'm not so much sure if it's birth pangs, although you could be correct, Sheila.

Once the rapture happens, the tribulation does begin but it progressively gets worse if we follow the prophetic events in the Holy Bible. For example -- the anti-Christ may not rise up for a few years until after the tribulation begins but one of the early condemnations will be the mark of the beast (condemnation for those left behind and take it).

There's a slight contrast in the events which precede the rapture and which precede the 2nd coming (as they're not similar events or the same as some claim).

No signs precede Rapture. ( 1 Thessalonians 5:1-3)

Signs precede Second Coming. ( Luke 21:11,15)

Many terrible things will happen in the midst of the tribulation and there will be earthquakes, war and overall unrest. Some things of read you in Revelation are some of the most terrifying to be known. Israel's role too if you contrast between the pre-tribulation rapture & the 2nd coming:

Israel is persecuted during the Tribulation. Two-in-three Jews in Israel are killed. ( Zechariah 13:8-9)

Israel is regathered. ( Jeremiah 23:5-8)

World famine, pestilence, war and sorrow follow the Rapture. ( Matthew 24:6-10; Luke 17:31)

World peace follows Christ's Second Coming when He reigns from Jerusalem ( Isaiah 11:6)

Matthew 24:7. Are these birth pangs before trib or after trib begins because I believe Christians are spared the beginning of Trib wrath by the Rapture because of 1Thess ch5 ? Thanks for any clarification on this. God Bless.

I was bullied in school, by some students & even teachers. I know several children bullied by teachers & others in authority. I even had teachers throw chalkboard erasers & hit me in the head, multiple times, in front of entire classes. One teacher pulled me by the hair of my head down the hall to office because I asked questioned his fairness 5th grade. 4th Grade the teacher had me miss play time several days because I white skin, & different eyes & hair. "to teach class about predjudist" it made students more isolating towards me. Many more situations, I & others have suffered.

* To tell someone in authority that has no fear of GOD, sometimes makes the problem worse!

1st know: Jesus knows better than anyone what it's like to be wrongfully bullied! Pray to The Father for help in Jesus Name: Matthew 6:5-34, John 14:13, Isaiah 53,

1Peter 2:19-25,

2nd if you have kind, gentle, loving & understanding parents you all could prayerfully consider Homeschooling.

If you have a difficult situation at home, then pray about how to tell your Parent/Parents/Gaurdian. Even if they don't outwardly show love, they most likely care about cruel, abusive behavior towards you by others. In one case a child was moved to different school & situations were much better for that child.

3rd, Remember this time, if you're called to endure is just a few years, sometimes much shorter when you pray. GOD does amazing things, through our prayers. Luke 17:6, Matthew 17:20, James 5:17,

4th, through hardship we learn compassion, to help others who go through what we have gone through, & going through. 2Corinthians 1:3-4,

5th, I will pray for you.

6th be encouraged as I have become unafraid of people & bolder for Christ, wiser especially for things today, you too should be strengthened & be wiser throughout these things. 2Timothy 2:3, Matthew 24:13, Mark 13:13,

Hopefully these are helpful & encouraging

Hey George, I just want to share some verses with you. But first, Luke 21 and Mark 13 are parallel passages of Matthew 24. I would think that most people would agree, though there are differences between the three chapters mostly because each account of the same Olivet discourse was witnessed by 3 different disciples so each one would write of the discourse from their viewpoint being led of the Holy Ghost.

Secondly, I do not see anywhere in John 14 the teaching of a pre-trib rapture. I see where Jesus will come for us and we be with him forever but I do not see a timeline, the hour that he comes for us.

Matthew 24:29-31, Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the son be darkened, and the moon shall to give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

I Thessalonians 2:15-16, For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with hem in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

II Thessalonians 2:1-3, Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ,a nod by our gathering together unto him, That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

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Matthew 24:29,30 -AFTER the tribulation of those days..' etc.

The youtube channel 'Servus Christi' does an very methodical expounding of the rapture question. If you type in his channel name and 'rapture' it will pop up.

Blessings!

Richard:

Revelation 22:2 .....the LEAVES are for the healing of the nations ....

Parable:

Christ is the ROOT, we are the BRANCHES, branches bear leaves, the saints are for the healing of the nations.

Matthew 24:32 ......PARABLE ......When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth LEAVES, you now summer is nigh.

And what follows summer, FALL when the crop is HARVESTED, feast of ingathering.

Isaiah 6:13 .....when they cast their LEAVES; the HOLY SEED shall be the substance thereof.

God Bless You!