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Revelation

When you first read Revelation, it may seem mixed-up, and hard to understand. We must understand it is not a chronological record of events from start to finish or it will be impossible to grasp. It's not linear, it's broken up with visions nested within visions and there are different accounts of the same events.

Like in these chapters, chapter 6, chapter 11, and chapter 16, in these chapters they are describing the same events that occur immediately after the Tribulation. These correspond with Matthew 24:29 and Ezekiel 38:18-32, this is after the tribulation, which starts when Satan is cast out of heaven and down to earth Revelation 12 and gives his power, seat, and authority to the beast that arises out of the bottomless pit.

This is just a small example, but may it help in the study of Revelation and there are not seven years but three and one-half years. Many are looking for an antichrist but there are four, Satan, the beast that arises out of the bottomless pit, the false prophet, and the harlot city Babylon. All will play a part in the times coming. After the battle of Armageddon, the kingdom will be set up with the camp of the saints in the beloved city, and Jesus will be there.

God bless,

RLW

Many people try to claim that events in scripture coincide with certain Trumpet Events, and therefore MUST be held to a certain order of events listed in Revelation. The book of Revelation makes very clear that it is all vision, symbols and spiritual events. As I've shown, Rev. 20:1-7 is contradicted by many prior events in the book of Revelation and thus cannot be taken as literal or LINEAR. Too many events in Revelation contradict 20:1-7 before it even begins.

God makes very clear to us in His Word using 'signature events' to create undeniable proof of the things that line-up in scripture to create a rock-solid foundation for specific doctrine. The 'Day of the Lord, Wrath of God, return of Jesus' is one of those events - the same event. And I have supplied the passages that reveal this very clearly.

Matthew 24:29-31

and

Isaiah 13:9-11

Signature events:

"...the stars of heaven and the constellations ... shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened ... the moon shall not cause her light to shine."

Isaiah 13:10

"Immediately after the Tribulation ... shall the sun be darkened,... the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:..."

Matt. 24:29

Same day, same event. The Day of the Lord (Jesus')/Wrath of God destruction of the earth and all sinners and the return of Jesus Christ.

The Wrath of God:

"Behold the Day of the Lord (Jesus) cometh, cruel both with WRATH and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and He shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it."

Isaiah 13:9

"And I will PUNISH THE WORLD for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; and I will cause the arrogance of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible."

Isaiah 13:11

These events happen on the same exact day, the 'very last day' of the earth. How do we know? Jesus Himself tells us plainly many times in the book of John.

John 6:39, 40, 44, 54; 11:24; 12:48

The Millennium is False Doctrine.

GOD is Amazing & doesn't cease from amazing me, again & again!! Recently over the past month, I noticed the signs of the "trumpet" blasts, within the WORD. I was researching a question about the gathering. Then I noticed it's significance with the "last trumpet blasts" 1Corinthains 15:52, Revelation 10, starting with the mighty angel clothed in the cloud:" after Revelation 9, explaining the "sixth trumpet blast", Revelation 10:7, Matthew 24:31, Matthew 24:4-39, 1Thessalonians 4:16,17,18

I knew there was more for me to study in the Trumpet blasts. I had also noticed them in Old Testament.

Thank you for your response, it in the least, is directing me back to look & see what GOD is trying to show me. I had also wondered what events had already taken place & working out the other ones.

Thanks I'm looking deeper into it. Thank you also for the comforting words of protection as with also, Zechariah 9:14-16,

Do you feel the burden of Ezekiel 33:6?

SolaScript,

This isn't an argument I like, simply because we are not getting the whole picture, it's a dream state in Plato's cave.

I'm dismayed to report that your context lacks continuity:

Revelation 6 describes subsequent seals, through sixth seal events that lead up to and are actually kicks off (vs 12) the day of the Lord. You must have got mixed up here, made a mistake in scripture selection.

Revelation 7:13-14 These are the 7th trumpet saints, resurrected from the great tribulation and standing in heaven, they were previously getting sealed in verses 1-8.

Matthew 24:29-31 This sequence tells of the 6th trumpet (vs 29) and the 7th trumpet 2nd coming of Christ (vs 30). They are 2 separate events in time.

Isaiah 13:9-11 This is a classic 6th trumpet, day of the Lord depiction.

Revelation 7:15-17 OK, this is a millennium scripture.

The earth was not ever fully destroyed, and that is the absolute reason why Jesus intervenes on our affairs. Jesus returns when he does to stop anti-christ's feuding army from completely blowing up the earth. God lures the beast to Armageddon, where originally the beast was going to fight the false prophet to the death, until Christ showed up. If Jesus didn't save the earth, then whats the point of a savior? He didn't die on the cross in vain. I strongly believe you are reading this wrong, and limited sources doesn't help much.

Daniel 7:12 will manifest itself in our realm, like anti-christ will manifest himself after the falling away. The other beasts are nations, and peoples, not figments of God's imagination. These characters are real nations and real people, doing the Lord's will. The same on earth as in heaven, so above, so below. We are soon moving on to a new age, and changes are on the way.

Was that supposed to correct or contradict anything that I said? Because it did not in any way.

I mentioned Millennium AND 1,000 years. Clearly I had that already.

I also mentioned that Rev. 20:1-6 is the only place in scripture that mentions any 1,000 yr period of time. Yes, I forgot the 7th verse. Forgive me. My point still stands.

You may not be very familiar with the Millennium doctrine, but it has about a handful of necessities for it to be legitimate within scripture. One of those is that the physical earth must remain throughout that 1,000 years. It does not. Isaiah 65:17-25 is often used to refute the 'No Millennium' position, but ironically the 1st verse there, verse 17 contradicts the Millennium immediately.

"For, behold, I create a New Heaven and a New Earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come to mind."

Isa. 65:17

That completely nullifies a Millennial time period upon the physical earth. There are plenty more verses in scripture, many within Revelation itself, that undeniably eliminate the possibility of a Millennium doctrine. Jesus comes, gathers His saints, destroys all wickedness (devil, beast, false prophet, sinners, etc.) as well as the earth and then rebuilds it and His "Heavenly ETERNAL reign" ensues. NOT a physical earthly 1,000 year reign upon the existing earth where the devil is released at the end to again torment all that have ALREADY endured until the end. Matthew 24:13; Rev. 14:12 Would it make any sense at all for God to have us endure and obey throughout this physical lifetime, only to have to endure another 1,000 years and be tested and tormented all over again by the devil?

It would make ZERO sense and it would throw God's entire character into question - it would not follow scripture as a whole in the least.

Happy to answer questions and address any other verses you may like to present.

God bless.

Hi Mishael.

The Millennium doctrine is based only upon 7 verses in Rev. 20:1-7, but that is a symbolic, visionary, spiritual prophecy that is not to be taken literally or in a linear understanding. Rev. 10 speaks of all time coming to an end while Rev. 19 speaks of the beast and false prophet being destroyed along with all sinners left in the world. By the time Rev. 20:1-7 begins, it has already been contradicted multiple times in Revelation itself. It is not to be taken literally. Matthew 24:29-31 and Isaiah 13:9-11 coincide perfectly showing Christ's return AFTER the Great Tribulation (there is NO Pre-Trib Rapture) and He gathers His people immediately before the Wrath of God destruction of the earth and all sinners.

There is no reconciling all those verses without taking the Millennium event of Rev. 20 out of literal interpretation.

The end times will include a Great Tribulation which all Christians will have to endure. Some will be converted to the antichrist faith out of fear and desperation. Some will be killed for their faith and refusal to denounce Christ and some will live throughout that time until the very end ( Matthew 24:29-31) when Jesus will come in an unimaginably dramatic fashion and every eye will see Him. ( Rev. 1:7) He will gather the remnant of His people and then God's Wrath will destroy the earth and all sinners therein as well as the devil, the beast and the false prophet. Then the New Heaven and New Earth will come about and Jesus' "Heavenly"(not physical earthly) reign will ensue.

Happy to discuss further if you'd like to address specific verses. It is very important for Christians to understand this information. Some would argue it is not salvific (does not concern salvation), but it very much does. Please review the verses I presented and respond with any questions.

Thank you and God bless.

King James and Strong's is all I use. Been studying scripture, cover to cover, for well over a decade. Jer. 17 speaks of the Sabbath. You are claiming that is speaking of a thousand year period instead of the 7th Day Sabbath which is what the Bible is referring to there. There is no mention anywhere there of a 1,000 year period. By default, you are claiming that the days of Creation were thousand year periods as well which is not Biblical. Each day statement ends with the word day, regardless of the 'evening and morning' comment. ... the first Day, ... the second Day, etc. Not 1,000 year periods of time. Leviticus 23:32 makes plain what God intended to convey with the Creation week account. The Sabbath was taken from than account ( Gen. 2:2-3) and the Lev. verse tells us it is one 24 hr day.

Proverbs 1 says nothing about a 1,000 year period.

James 5, as well, says nothing at all about a 1,000 yr period of time. The only possible reference there is to the return of Christ and maybe the Wrath of God. Neither of which contain a 1,000 yr period of time. Matthew 24:29-31 presents the one and only return of Jesus and details many of the beginnings of the destruction of the earth at that very time. Millennium doctrine does not allow for destruction of the earth until after the 1,000 years. It is not supported by scripture anywhere outside of Rev. 20:1-7 which is symbolic or takes place in the spirit, not literal/physical. Isaiah 13:9-11 supports the same as Mt. 24:29-31.

2 Tim. 2 does not mention any 1,000 yr period of time. There is no support of the Mil. The only verse that could come close is 2:12 about 'reigning with Him.' That is not a reference to a Mil. time period, it is a reference to 1 Cor. 6:17 - our spirit being joined to the Lord at this very moment if we are 'IN' Christ

Please post 'specific' verses or passages if you wish to continue so that we can get right down to Hebrew/Greek 'word meanings' if necessary. Posting entire chapters is a waste of time.

Between your post and mine, what I stated was very matter of fact and impersonal. Yours was defensive. I certainly didn't call you out personally and if what I posted was perceived as a threat to you, you did not have to reply.

The Isaiah passage you quoted was very long and general. It does mention the New Heaven and New Earth, though. That is not part of the Millennium doctrine, it is said to come after that time frame. The Millennium doctrine claims that the earth will remain as is for the 1,000 year period and not be destroyed, or made new, until after that time period. Also, New Heaven and New Earth can imply a heavenly/spiritual time, which supports my position that the Millennium is not supported by any scripture outside of Revelation.

In the Rev. 20 passage, thrones are mentioned as well as souls of the beheaded. This strongly implies a heavenly/spiritual dimension, not physical. Beheaded souls cannot be alive in the physical. The mention of thrones echoes Daniel 7:9 which speaks of a heavenly/spiritual realm of existence where the Ancient of Days is upon the throne.

Revelation is highly symbolic and non-literal, even the intro says so. John himself states that he was "in the spirit" on three, or more, occasions. There are some things in Revelation that are backed by multiple other scriptures outside of the book itself, but the Millennium reign has no support at all. The rest of scripture makes the case clearly that Jesus will return, gather His people and the Wrath of God destruction, and wiping out of sinners, will ensue. It is then that the New Heaven and New Earth will begin. Not a thousand years after, and not before the Wrath of God destruction and final judgment of all sinners.

Matthew 24:29-31

Isaiah 13:9-11

Revelation 10 describes all time ending, long before Revelation 20 - which tells us we cannot take Revelation literally or in a linear perception.

I will have to address the other contradictions in my next post. No more characters allowed

Hi Bob, thanks for your post. There is such a need for correct teaching in our churches today. Many have numerous bible studies on faddish trends, but not enough teaching on the doctrines of the faith handed down from the apostles. Basic Christianity classes should be continually taught in our churches today. There should never be a gap. Any new believer should not need to wait more than a few months for a new course to begin. This is one of th4e best ways to combat false teachings and will soon enough put the false teachers out of business.

Also, churches are not doing enough of correction and addressing false beliefs in the church community. We should be calling out the many false teachers that come through the television set and on the internet week after week. We should be countering their false teachings with true teachings and bring opportunities to hear truth telling evangelists, preachers, and teachers to more and more communities (especially one who do not have books, etc, to hawk).

We should also pray for and work at restoring those who have been falsely taught to sound doctrine.

We should look on these brethren with compassion, not contempt, not giving up on them, but seek them to disciple and put them in touch with a sure pastor who can sincerely and gently shepherd them.

So, the church in this day has a big charge. To help as many as we can reach with the gospel and disciple these properly. Yes, the word tells us there will be a huge falling away, but we are to watch ourselves carefully, lest we fall away. We should make every effort to help those who are doubting, skeptical, caught in sin, slipping on false doctrine, and oppressed by the enemy. We have more power and influence than most people realize!

This is a question all "Pre Tribbers" (as I am) must come to grips with. Surely; as with any other prophetic scriptures at least a partial fulfillment occured by AD 70 (and in some ways with the further diaspora around AD 130.) This certainly confirms these things happening within a generation; and a 40 year one at that (allowing for the fact Christ may have been born a few years previous to AD 1 if the signs are aligning properly with the timeframe).

The prevailing theory on 1948 being the beginning of the last generation is coming into question as we have according to Psalm 90:10 no time left and in fact if the Tribulation stated today; would go past the deadline of 2028 to some time in 2029 to bring "all things to pass"..namely the physical return of Christ. We could say the same thing about a 40 year generation from 1967 when Jerusalem came under Jewish control as more than 50 years have already passed. The possibility of a Psalm 83 war scenario makes sense to me to be the REAL beginning of the last generation as a time when ALL the trees surrounding the main "fig tree" will prosper. This would give those already siding with Israel such as the Gulf states and soon no doubt the Saudis access to tremendous economic wealth of natural gas and other resources off the coast to bring financial gain; and also lull the Jews to danger; and therefore eventually be more suited for a land of "unwalled villages" and the other conditions needed for the later Ezekiel 38 war to commence with the outer countries such as Turkey; Iran; Russia; and other long term enemies. That would probably be a time that they will sign the Danie 9:27 agreement when they perceive a position of strength; not weakness. It would seem at some point between now and then the Temple must be rebuilt. We also have to look at the emerging one world religion and the headquarters in the Mideast about to open in the next couple years for Jews; Muslims and Christians to worship together.

Hello Jerry,

It is my understanding that what Jesus meant by "this generation will not pass away until all these things be fulfilled" we need to understand the verses that are before and after Matthew 24:34 is Jesus providing a prophecy of future events. Once the signs of the end begin to be observed, the end is well on the way-then Jesus coming and the judgment will occur within that last generation.

Jesus tells us what to look for in a parable here: Matthew 24:32-33 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: 33So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

When these signs happen "the generation on earth at this time" will experience the end times.

God Bless

Verse 13 says he that endures to the end shall be saved .

I understand that to be , after the great falling away that is evident today many years now , and people start looking for answers due to troubles in the world , and the false prophets and their teachings will not endure the difficulties to come , because they are not truthfully or correctly taught . So the deceived fall away . But the church of Jesus Christ will remain and endure to the 2nd coming .

Remember the story Jesus told about building your house on a rock and building it on sand . One endured the storms and the other fell .

John 14:26

"But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you."

1 John 2:27

"But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him."

King James Version (KJV)

No, from the time Jesus ascended this generation started we are the last generation he is talking to everyone, The last Days.

When I read Matthew 24:34, where JESUS says this Generation shall not pass away till all things be fulfilled.Does that mean that from verse one to verse 33 all of what JESUS said has happened while he was on Earth.or am I reading it incorrectly..

Mathew 24.11

Notice the word many in this verse .

They are very persuasive, being deceived themselves , but they never seem to come out of it and have huge followings .

But they are wrong and miss out . Dear reader trust no man but the word of God . Ask God for wisdom he promises to give it to those ask in faith . He surely does and you will not fall for the fakes .

Hey Dennis,

Satan is permitted, for a time, to rule over the majority in this world as we see when he tempted Jesus, Luke 4:6 And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it.

We see again Satan who deceived the whole world when he is cast down to earth permanently, Revelation 12:7-9. He then gives his power, his seat, and authority to the beast over the world, Revelation 13:2. But Satan is limited in accordance with God's will and he dwells in darkness and that is the boundary of his territory. Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

That is why we must do as in Romans 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

If we walk in the Spirit and the true light is in us, darkness will have nothing to do with us, we have victory in Christ. The time is coming when Satan is cast down and gives his authority to the beast, those of us who are still living will see the darkest time and go through it, Jesus does not return until after the tribulations of those days, Matthew 24:29-31 Mark 13:24-27.

So, walk in the light and not in the manners of the world where there is darkness.

God bless,

RLW

I think the scripture you're referring to is: (but it's not written that way). Matthew 24:32, in context: Matthew 24:3-51, Luke 21:29-30, in context: Luke 21:1-36, Mark 13:28, in context Mark 13, chapter.

Hopefully this is helpful.

Hey Beth,

This day most Christians celebrate as Easter, resurrection day. This day, the first day after the Sabbath following Passover day was the Feast of Firstfruits, Leviticus 23:9-14. This feast is for the first harvest, the priest must wave the sheaf before the LORD, to be accepted before any of the first harvest could be eaten.

Mary came before sunrise and Jesus appeared to her first, she went to touch Him and He told her "Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father". Jesus is the Firstfruits of those who slept, and as the priest had to wave the sheaf over the alter before the LORD to be accepted, Jesus had to ascend to His Father to be accepted to fulfill the Feast of Firstfruits before He could be touched.

Just think, sunrise, on the morning of the Feast of First Fruits, the priest waving the sheaf of grain before the altar, and the other women arriving at the Lord's tomb, the same time Jesus ascended. The angel told the women to go tell the disciples to go to Galilee, and on their way, He returned and appeared to them, then they could touch Him, Matthew 28:5-10 but Mary could not because He had not yet ascended, same as the sheaf had to be waved before the LORD and accepted before they could eat of the first harvest.

From the beginning of Jesus time on earth the disciples thought He was going to set up the kingdom then, and just before He ascended, they asked Jesus if he at that time was going to set up the kingdom, Acts 1:6. My understanding of scripture after Jesus returned He was hear forty days teaching the apostles, Acts 1:1-5 before His ascension in Acts 1:9. He told them to stay in Jerusalem and wait for the promise of the baptizing of the Holy Ghost, this the second harvest (Pentecost).

He is now sitting at the right hand of the Father, the only mediator between us and God 1Timothy 2:5. He will be coming back as He left Matthew 24:30, to set up the kingdom on earth.

God bless,

RLW

Hey Rawlie,

Like Mishael said there are many opinions on this and your question is there any scriptural support for pre-tribulation I would have to say no. God has not promised us to be spared tribulation, it is pretty much the opposite, John 16:33 Acts 14:22 2 Thessalonians 1:4. The Great tribulation and the wrath of God is two different things. God will spare us his wrath, 1 Thessalonians 5:9 His wrath will be on the unrighteous, Romans 1:18.

People looking to be raptured and taken to heaven before the beast shows up and the persecution worldwide starts will not be prepared and this may cause the great falling away. Some have taken the seventh week from Daniel and other scriptures to paint a beautiful picture that is not scriptural. Millions of dollars from movies, books, tv preachers have been made on this theory that started in the 1700s

Jesus told us in Matthew 24:29-31 Mark 13:24-27 it will be after the tribulation. There is more but this should answer your question, if we are living when it starts, we will go through it, Matthew 10:22. We must do what Jesus told the disciples when they asked him about the end. The first thing He said was Matthew 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.

There will be a great temptation coming, and we must be strong in our faith in His word, even unto death, because we have this promise. Revelation 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.

God bless,

RLW

Karen

You will get differing opinions on this, so I suggest studying Scriptures carefully that people give to support their view.

Me, personally, I think Jesus is coming back one more time. I believe his because Jesus did not say He'd come two more times. Mark 13:24-27 speaks of His return after the tribulation. See also:

Matthew 25:31-33, Matthew 24:23-31

So, for me, I want to live with going through the tribulation in mind, having the faith, strength of character, resolve , and love of Christ that the early Christian martyrs had.

If Jesus comes back before that, then - I will be ready, too.

Sorry Yvonne Mathis, I have been having some trouble recently with Internet server or something. I tried to respond with scripture.

(will we know people? In Heaven) John 10:14, John 15:15, Acts 15:18, 2 Corinthians 3:2, 2 Corinthians 6:7-10,

1 Corinthians 13:12, Isaiah 40:11, Isaiah 60:4, Isaiah 66:18, Matthew 24:31, Mark 13:27, Ephesians 1:10, Luke 16:19-31,

Hopefully these are encouraging & helpful in answering your questions in this.

Hey Rick,

Death is something we all will face; many believe our body dies and our soul lives on. Is our soul immortal? Can we take 2 Corinthians 5:8 when we die our soul leaves our body and we are present with the Lord? Some define death as a separation of the soul from the body. Does that come from scripture? I have not found that in scripture.

It comes from Greek philosophy of Plato. He wrote the body is a prison for the soul and viewed death as the means of freedom for the soul. The philosophy of death started blending in the church in the second century and those good souls go to heaven and the bad goes to hell and more. Many see the parable in Luke 16:19-31 as fitting this. If you read the chapter Jesus is talking about the unrighteous love mammon and neglect the true riches.

My understanding from scripture every part of us is mortal and when we die, we sleep in the dust, Job 14:12-14, Job 17:13-16, Ecclesiastes 9:5-10 until resurrection. When this mortal puts on immortality 1 Corinthians 15:52-58, and we will be absent from this flesh body. Then those that are Christs will be judged and receive our rewards. Matthew 16:27, Revelation 22:12 that is our hope, 1 Thessalonians 2:19

We will sleep in the dust, Daniel 12:2, 1Theselonians 4:14 and this is not from heaven, it is from around the world to meet Jesus in the air coming down to Israel the start the 1000 years at His coming. Matthew 24:31 Zechariah 14:4.

This is my understanding of scripture.

God bless,

RLW

Hi Mike.

I also hold the view that this is future and is talking about the Antichrist.

Jesus mentions it being future.

Matthew 24:15. When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

( Daniel 11:31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.)

This has happened in the past with Antiochus IV, " Before "Jesus ministry here on earth but it's going to happen again.

It's what's called a double reference in scripture.

God bless.

Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of Man is revealed. Luke 17: 26-30

And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. All these are the beginning of sorrows.

And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. Matthew 24:4-8,10-14

What are we to do when each day the news agencies report ever increasing threats of terror, hurricanes, cyclones, earthquakes, tsunamis, droughts, fires, floods, famines, pestilences and wars in our world? Jesus gave us His advice in the verses of Matthew 24

Matthew 24:8, Mark 13:8

All these are the beginning of sorrows.

We're going to see "earth pains" as Jesus compared it to the labor pains of a woman. We will get through this part; just hand on tightly to Jesus. Read the Gospels where he taught the disciples about it. (that's us).

Sometimes Nelson Walters teaches a little fast; but you might watch some of his "book of Daniel" end time teachings (on youtube).

We're going to witness nations rising up against other nations, on TV !! (Such as Russia taking over Ukraine) Or, Palestinian Nations attacking Israel. The USA is giving money to Israel's ENEMIES.

Let's do what Jesus said: PRAY for the Peace of Jerusalem!

EVANGELIZE lost people. Hang on to your JOY.

Spike4187

John 3:29 He that hath the bride is the bridegroom: but the friend of the bridegroom, which standeth and heareth him, rejoiceth greatly because of the bridegroom's voice: this my joy therefore is fulfilled.

Matthew 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the ELECT"S sake those days shall be shortened.

1 Peter 1:2 Elect (Church/Bride) according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

2 John 1:1 The elder unto the elect lady and her children, whom I love in the truth; and not I only, but also all they that have known the truth;



Revelation 22:17 And the Spirit and the (bride) say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.

Matthew 24:2-51,

Job 24:14,

Please note: Matthew 24:48-51, Matthew 24:30, Matthew 24:42-47, Matthew 24:36-39.

It's all in Matthew 24,

Hopefully these scriptures are helpful.

Good Morning Brother Alex,

It's another wonderful sunny day here, watching and listening to all of the song birds, while contemplating how wonderful God's love is for us! God came down to this earth and became human in the form of Jesus, he suffered and died for our sins. While on earth, Jesus instructed us, and showed us how we are to live, and how much we are to love others. Not only should we love those who love us and agree with us, we are to love everyone, including our enemies,and those that we don't agree with. I'm on board with this totally!

Alex you stated: "Dan you do not realize what you are saying....If water cd have washed away our sins then our lord shed his blood in vain and the CROSS was just foolishness...Do you not see this...All the water in the whole world cd not atone for the sins of the world"

Alex, it is not what I'm saying - it is what Jesus, and all of the Apostles are saying. We are required to repent, and be baptized in water in order to receive the Holy Spirt. I'm not saying this, it is coming directly from much bible scripture - that I submitted to you, and you continue to minimize and or ignore.

I agree with you, that Jesus died on the cross for our sins, this is true, but it does NOT remove the need for us to be baptized. If this were true we would have to just ignore so much scripture - we can't ignore this scripture regarding baptism, we would then be ignoring what Jesus commanded us to do if we truly want to receive His Holy Spirit.

Please remember what Jesus tells us about his words:

Matthew 24:35

"Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away."

If I was to agree with you, that Baptism in water is no longer required, then I would have to ignore tons of scripture regarding baptism, and even worse I would have to ignore the above scripture of Jesus telling us that "his words do not ever pass away." Alex, are you reading the bible and accepting "all of the scripture?

The Lord expects us to be aware of things happening..Not be asleep spiritually.

Genesis 1:14 - And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: Matthew 16:3

And in the morning, It will be foul weather to day: for the sky is red and lowring. O ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky; but can ye not discern the signs of the times?

Matthew 24:24

For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

Mark 16:20

And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following.

Luke 21:25

And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;

John 4:48

Then said Jesus unto him, Except ye see signs and wonders, ye will not believe.

Acts 1:7

And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.

1 Thessalonians 5:1

But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.

2 Timothy 4:2-4 - Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

Be watchful, looking up. Keep a ear out for 3rd Temple building in Israel; completion.

Hello Edna. Maybe you're thinking of this saying: "You can't tell winter from summer except by the budding of the trees?"

This is actually a misquoted reference to Matthew 24:32, "Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh". In this verse, we read that Jesus was making a point about the time of His Return - to look for the signs around them, just as they would look for the sign of the first shoots, indicating the onset of Summer. So please don't wrack your brains on this, since what you have heard before is really a misquote of Jesus' Words & has nothing to do with the mixing up, or amalgamation of the seasons.

And I also think of Genesis 8:22 that may help you: "While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease." And this is God's Promise for the continuation of our seasons while the Earth exists in its present state.