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There are some posting in this thread that are content ignoring tons of bible scripture as long as their preconceived salvation narrative of faith+grace and not much else is preached. Many are comfortable ignoring and telling others to ignore Christs (numerous) commands to be baptized in water and follow the commandments, among other things.

Christ tells us to pick up our crosses and follow him!

Today, many twist Pauls words to reflect their misguided salvation message. Paul does not cancel the words spoken by Jesus/God. If you believe that the words of Jesus should be ignored please read this scripture below:

Matthew 24:35

"Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away."

Jesus is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow!

Please read your bible and Believe!

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Mishael

I getcha.

Does the same apply to the moon, as well?

Matthew 24:29

Put your eyes to GOD ALMIGHTY! Philippians 2:10-13. James 4:13-15, 1 John 4:18, Matthew 24:4-51, Philippians 4:4-9,

Hopefully these are helpful

There is a Documentary on Amazon ("BEFORE THE WRATH"), which everyone should watch. It shows the Galilean Wedding Tradition:

A man and woman are engaged, like Joseph and Mary.

Like Christ and His Church at the Last Supper.

They are called "Husband" and "Wife" NOT "Fiances" as we do today.

They share a meal and the Man goes to his father's house, to build an extension in which he and his wife will live.

Then, he goes to his Wife's house, to take her to his Father's House.

But he does not know when that will be. Only the Husband's Father knows, in the Galillean Wedding Tradition.

So at the Last Supper, when Jesus says to the Apostles:

" In My Father's House, there are many Mansions. . . . . I go to prepare a place for you.

I will come back and take you to be with Me."

--- John's Gospel Chapter 14: Verses 2-3

the Apostles understood that very well, since they were all from Gallilee and at least St. Peter was married,

since his Mother-in-Law is mentioned in the Bible.

So when Atheists make fun of the Apostles for believing in the VISIBLE Second Coming of Christ, in their

lifetimes, they misinterpret Scripture.

The Atheists say:

"Look, that never happened in the Apostles Lifetimes,

so it never will!"



The Apostles were looking forward to the RAPTURE of the Church, NOT the Visible Second Coming of Christ!

In 33 AD, after Jesus Ascended into Heaven, the Rapture COULD have happened in 34 AD or 534 AD!

NO prophecies need to be fulfilled for the Rapture to happen, back then or tomorrow, as we celebrate Christmas

Eve with our Atheist friends and Relatives!

There could have been 2,000 years between the Rapture and the visible 2nd Coming!

Probably NOT, but there COULD BE!

A man named Anderson wrote several books: "DANIEL IN THE CRITICS DEN" (I lost it in a move!)

And "THE SILENCE OF GOD".

Proverbs 24:16, Matthew 24:24

A few more scriptures come to mind for what you described I hope these are helpful. Jude 1:21-25, Jude 1, 1 John 1:10, Psalms 51:10,

Hello Bill,

Thank you for bringing those scriptures forward. I look forward to that day. I am 65 and may not be alive wen this happens, but will be one that is raised from the dead. But then again, it may happen in my lifetime. Each day, week, year that passes does bring us closer to that wonderful day when Jesus appears to claim His bride and rule and reign on earth.

So, we probably be prepared spiritually for it as much as we are able to be sanctified in this life by the Holy Spirit. Therefore, we are exhorted to not resist the Holy Spirit and what He wants to accomplish in us in this life to serve and help others lovingly, and to prepare us for when our time in eternity begins.

Great discussion GiGi: "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels in heaven, but my Father only. But as the days of Noe were, so shall the coming of the Son of man be." Matthew 24: 36 & 37

And...

He answered and said unto them, When it is evening, ye say, It will be fair weather: for the sky is red. And in the morning, It will be foul weather to day: for the sky is red and lowring. O ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky; but can ye not discern the signs of the times? Matthew 16: 2 & 3

God bless.

Thank God someone understands what "taken" means. Thank you Philip. Now if Christians could understand who the House of Israel is in the latter days.

Hi Rupert,

Jesus is saying here that no one will be able to state positively the day and our Jesus returns at the end of time. No one can pinpoint the exact day and time. People who do are speaking falsely, since do pinpoint are in contradiction to what Jesus states. However, He does tell us to be ever ready for His return, living in such a way that we will not be surprised by His appearing. The Bible has many prophecies concerning events that will come to pass as the end draws near. We can be aware of these prophesies and make note of them. We can be wise in the Word in this, but He also says that it will be like in the days of Noah, life as usual so to speak, or perhaps exceedingly wicked, as it was before the flood.

Just reading some of the comments and arguments leads me to believe that Satan is succeeding in spreading confusion around the world and is using SOME that do not even realize they are helping him. Others may intend to do so. The statement says ----in plain words that "No one knows but the Father in heaven when Jesus will return". That's all it says and anything else is merely someone's ASSUMPTION or lie-----which causes confusion.

Please explain Verse 36

I'm sorry for your loss of friends during this difficult time. I'm sure it's even more troubling for you because of that.

I do not believe it to be the 'time" nor 'mark' However I Believe we are to be wise. Psalms 2:10,Teaching our children. Deuteronomy 11:19.The scripture does say 'hand or forehead" Revelations 13:11-18, please read around scripture for best context. Unless translation could mean arm, it's not clearly "the mark of the beast". I think the reason many are alarmed about this is

1st because of ingredient in vaccination, Psalms 106:29, Psalms 36-39

2nd whistle blowers coming forth with evidence of ungodly acts in testing, ingredient & side-affects

3rd the division it's caused & causing in Church & society

4th The Forcefulness of it all, losing ability to work, travel in some cases

5th The targeting of the T-cells, and cells that give space for communication with GOD, discovered by scientific study, (Reported 2009). Even having immediate side-affects

6th possibly most troubling for some: 1st P. C. developer bought pharmaceutical & Biotechnology ''vaccination' developer. Then filed for patent : WO/2020/060606 for: Cryptocurrency using body activity.

Please don't panic. 1 John 4:18,

Mark 13:22, Mark 13:5-37, several of those have yet to happen. 2 Thessalonians 2:1-13, could the great falling away be those who put all faith in rapture? Revelations 6:8-11, John 17:1-20, holdfast during trial Matthew 24:13, Matthew 24:4-51,

What is worship? Is it adoration, admiration, time given to, consuming, looking into intently, loving? Some feared computers were "the beast" the image of the beast? Cell phones or 'computer chips" The other day I wondered what it looks like to GOD seeing so many faces looking into devices, not up to HIM. Let us Worship only GOD ALMIGHTY, creator of Heaven & Earth.

Hopefully this is helpful in your research of Truth. I will pray for you also & sad for your loss & heaviness for loved ones being deceived. Peace to you

Vincent Brother. We are all saying the same thing. But respectfully , Sir , I believe that that time is now.

I suspect that the Tribulation is all but here , and that the antichrist is all but here , a very wealthy

pronounced public figure hidden in plain view perhaps , ( remember how satan tried to entice Christ by offering Him all the glory and wealth of this world ) but he has yet to reveal himself maybe , or are we still waiting for him yet to be born even though we can see the end times upon us ? .

2 Thessalonians 2 says : Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for THAT DAY shall not come, EXCEPT there come a falling away FIRST, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

Is this global vaccination exercise , "the great falling away" ? Is this the mark and system of the beast? No man being able to buy or sell ( vaccine passports now being offered as the outward manifestation of the wicked seal that one must first take ) except he take the mark . Is this the "wickedness" spoken of in Matthew 24:15 , "standing in the holy place ( the body ? )" or is it a physical person, the son of perdition, that we are to look for , in Jerusalem. Or is it both ? If we can say yes , or even maybe to these questions , is this then the start of the Tribulation?

If it is or is not , remember this:

"THAT DAY" , we are told in v3 , comes, AFTER the great falling away.

In Revelations , we're told about the 4 angels , holding back the 4 winds , and they are told not to release their "hurt" , until the seal of God is given to His own people.

Then Christ says:"31And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds" Matt 24:13

JHVH

Hey David,

Sorry for using the word feel, it was not meant to suggest anything other than your belief or your understanding of the rapture of the Church that is taught. I just pointed out scripture on part of the rapture as taught I thought you may study. If we do not pray and study what we are taught, we are accountable. The definition of deceive; is to accept as true or valid what is false or invalid.

This was the first thing Jesus said after the disciples asked about the destruction of the temple.

Matthew 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.

Have a great day in love.

God bless,

RLW

Brother Joshua,

You may or may not be right. I realize I am not smart enough to predict the end time, or spend time on conspiracy theories. I rest easy in the Lord, and I confide all of my worries to him. God tells us:

Matthew 24:36

"But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only."

This verse is so very powerful:

Zephaniah 2:3

"Seek ye the LORD, all ye meek of the earth, which have wrought his judgment; seek righteousness, seek meekness: it may be ye shall be hid in the day of the LORD'S anger."

God tells us above - that he may hide us in the day of the LORDS anger, that is the Meat and Drink that I focus on.

Happy Sabbath Day!

Brother Rick,

I say this with love, and also for others that are seeking the truth. Jesus absolutely did not do away with the 10 Commandments/Law, including the Holy Sabbath Day, Saturday.

Jesus states:

John 14:15

"If ye love me, keep my commandments."

Jesus knows who loves him, because they will keep his commandments. Many people don't even try to keep God's commandments because it doesn't facilitate their worldly lifestyle. We have to ask ourselves this important question: Do we let our lifestyles guide us, or God's words?

Jesus said: Matthew 16:25

"For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it." Do you believe this scripture?

Matthew 24:35

"Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away."

So are you saying that Jesus words in John 14:15, and Matthew 24:35,have passed away?

Hebrews 13:8

"Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever."

Are you saying that Jesus Christ changed? His words no longer matter?

Jesus death on the cross and the new covenant does not erase the Ten Commandments/Law. Please read what God tells us about the new covenant and the law:

Hebrews 8:10

"For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:"

God is telling us he will put his laws into our minds, and our hearts! Do you believe this? This scripture is very important: Matthew 5:18 "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled." Do you believe this scripture?

The scripture is very clear, and easy to understand. We can't change the scripture, but many try to ignore or twist it into a puzzle that doesn't even make sense.

Read it and believe it!

God Bless

Part II God's Great GRACE Departure

B) Distinctions Between GREAT GRACE Departure and Second Coming

The Second Coming, According to Prophecy

1) Immediately After tribulation/4 signs, CHRIST, In His Prophesied Second Advent, As KING Of kings, And LORD Of lords, Is Coming From Heaven! Matthew 24:29 Revelation 19:11,16

2) CHRIST Is Coming On a white horse, With Crowns On His Head, And A Sword In His Mouth! Revelation 19:12-15

3) CHRIST Is Coming With, (which Were In Heaven!), His armies on white horses! Revelation 19:12-15

(4) CHRIST Is Coming To earth With ONE army, * "All Of His holy angels,"

In Order To Judge/Make war/Smite And Rule the nations

Matthew 25:31 Revelation 19:11,15

(5) With Another trumpet (AFTER "the 7th angel trumpet in heaven), on

the earth, Angels Are SENT, By The KING, TO: "gather the elect"...

Matthew 24:31 Mark 13:27

6) ...for the "judgment of the Earthly Nations" By The Son of man, The King! Matthew 25:31-36 Matthew 25:36-41 Matthew 25:41-46

7) Those Judged as righteous then enter the kingdom! And the UNrighteous then Depart into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels! Matthew 25:34-38 Matthew 25:38-41

Matthew 25:41-46

Rightly Divided 2 Timothy 2:15 From Things That DIFFER

The Great GRACE Departure, According to The Heavenly Mystery!

to be continued in Part III God's Great GRACE Departure

Hello,

In Matthew 24:29 who is Jesus quoting?

Hi Brother S Spenser,

Sorry, I couldn't answer your previous post/response - as the previous thread regarding this topic of discussion was closed.

I do agree with you, and also Jesse, I believe the scripture below relates to the 2nd coming of Christ Jesus.The scripture you attached also clarifies it in my understanding even more.

Luke 17:34

"I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left."

Luke 17:35

"Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left."

As you may know over the years, some have alluded to possible homosexual evidence to this scripture above. GiGi weighed in previously, stating that it was not uncommon for people to share beds, as they were a short commodity during the time period. This makes sense.

To expand, I was curious about this scripture in Luke, and got sidetracked a bit, and in I my research, I found scripture in the OT specifically regarding the usage of the word "grind" or "grinding" relating to sex. The word seemed to be a slang word see related scripture.

Job 31:10

Judges 16:21

Lamentations 5:13

In researching this further, I do believe the the word grinding was a valid slang word for sex during those days. I'm still not sure if Luke was really referring to this in his scripture. I also compared it to the alternate scripture in Matthew, where Matthew states" grinding at the mill" whereas Luke did not add the "mill" in his composition.

Matthew 24:41

"Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left."

I'm leaning toward - there may be no sexual undercurrent in this scripture as some people may think.

God Bless

Hi Brother Dan.

I believe in the Rapture but I don't believe this is a reference to the Rapture.

I like what Brother Jesse has shared and would like to add to it.

We have what I believe is the same account worded slightly different in Matthew 24.

Jesus says in both accounts it will be like in the days of Noah. Question is Who was taken in the days of Noah?

Let's visit it.

Matthew 24:37-39. But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

( AND KNEW NOT UNTIL THE FLOOD CAME, AND TOOK THEM ALL AWAY; SO SHALL ALSO THE COMING OF THE SON OF MAN BE.

Now let's visit the text in question.

Luke 17:34-35. I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.

Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

These are not Raptured, They're gathered but not to be with him. Those in the Ark were saved out of destruction and so is the Rapture. This is his second coming.

God bless.

Sister GiGI: SECOND COMING

Colossians 1:27 You whom God would make made known which is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is CHRIST IN YOU, the hope of glory.

John 14:17 Even the Spirit of truth, whom the world CANNOT receive because he seeth him not, neither knoweth him, but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall BE IN YOU.

These are God's words, if this is a reality to you then Christ has COME THE SECOND TIME; TO YOU.

Hebrews 9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many (first coming), and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time (as CHRIST IN YOU) (second coming) without sin (Christ's sacrifice covered our sin in his first coming) unto SALVATION.

Isaiah 27:12 It shall come to pass in that day (we are in that day), that the Lord shall beat off from the channel of the river unto the stream of Egypt, and ye shall BE GATHERED ONE by ONE, O ye children if Israel (the elect are the TRUE children of Israel).

Matthew 24:40 One shall be taken, to be a Son of God, and never see death, and one shall be left, to die in their sins, lay in the grave, resurrected to flesh and judged in the fire of the Lord, not TORTURED IN PHYSICAL FIRE.

Amen and Amen, Brother Philip!

Matthew 24:40; "taken left" = The word "flood" (vv. 38-39) translates from the Greek noun root "" (transliterated "kataklusmos"; pronounced "kata-klooce-MOS"), which derives the English noun "cataclysm," which speaks of either a social, political, or geographical disruption so violent as to result in mass and total destruction. Certainly the flood of Noah's day qualifies this description.

This verse (v.40) does not describe the Rapture of the Church. Those taken, are taken to be judged (cp. Lu. 17:34-37). Those left, are left to inhabit the Kingdom.

LORD JESUS qualified the word "taken" in Luke 17:37 when HIS disciples asked HIM, "[Taken] Where, Lord?" The LORD answered, "Wheresoever the body {contextually a corpse; carcass} is, there will the eagles {vultures; carrion eaters} be gathered together."

Those who are "taken" identify with those whom The LORD will "gather together" ( Rev. 16:16; 19:19) to judge them during Armageddon. Luke's expression as recorded in Luke 17:34 also agrees with Apostle John's description of "the Supper of the Great GOD" during which "fowls that fly in the midst of heaven" will assemble "to eat the flesh of" the armies of the Antichrist and his false prophet (see Rev. 19:17-18).

Those who are "left" will "live and reign with CHRIST a thousand years" ( Rev. 20:4).

The generation affected by the Flood presents a great typology: The earth's entire population were "taken" in judgment by the flood. In contrast, Noah and his family were "left" to replenish the earth.

Moreover, GOD "took" the entire population of Sodom and Gomorrah in judgment when HE destroyed the cities with fire and brimstone. Nevertheless, GOD preserved Lot and his daughters when HE "left" them out of harm's way.

In HIS parable of the net, The LORD graphically proclaimed this eschatological "taking" and "leaving": "So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just" ( Mt. 13:47-50).

Brother David,

We are in agreement with the promise of the gift/favor that God gave us, it is "THE WAY" for us to have salvation. I believe based on the scripture that if we except the gift/favor, our current worldly life should die, and we will live a "New Life" as a Christ follower. Following Christ we will become obedient, and in doing so follow God's Commandments, and produce good fruits and good works.

If we just say "we believe", and then continue to live our current worldly sinful lives, we will not receive salvation, this based entirely on my reading/understanding of the bible scripture.

Jesus Christ/God is consistent throughout the bible that we must become obedient. He is consistent in the OT, NT, and even after he died on the cross he is consistent with instructing us to be obedient if we want our salvation. Here is Jesus (40-50 years after his death) revealing to apostle John in Revelation, what he will expect from each of us if we hope to enter into the city/heaven.

Revelation 22:12-14

12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

In summary, Jesus is telling us that we will be rewarded for our works, and if we want to enter into salvation we will do his commandments. So, Jesus is the Judge, telling us what he will want from us to enter Salvation! He is not saying "all we have to do is believe". Jesus is always consistent, and we must be obedient - according to Jesus.

Jesus words last forever:

Matthew 24:35

"Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away."

As Christians, if we are sincere about achieving salvation - are we to just disregard all of this scripture spoken by Jesus?

God Bless.

Mathew 24.24

Take heed brethren false prophets shall arise among you . Powered by the devil .

No place is exempt from them .

Continued: The Gospel of the Kingdom: Jesus and the 12 preached the gospel (good news) of the Kingdom at THAT time ( Matthew 4:17, Matthew 9:35, Acts 3:19). Which was for the Jew only ( Matthew 10:5,6: Luke 9:10 Matthew 15:24; John 4:22; Matthew 18:11; Romans 15:8) Appropriated by repentance, baptism, faith plus works. The content of the gospel of the Kingdom was Jesus was Israel's promised Messiah, the Son of God. " And Jesus went about all the cities and villages, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the Kingdom, and healing every sickness and every disease among the people. Matthew 9:35 The apostle Peter's profession of faith was that he believed Jesus was in fact the Christ, the Son of God. Not that Jesus died for our sins, was buried and rose from the dead three days later. No way, how could that be Jesus was still alive. And the gospel of grace wouldn't be revealed for another 10 years. Yes, of course. Everything is based on the finished work of the cross but in time, at that time ,that was all Peter or any other Jewish person was to believe for salvation. "He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? And Simon Peter answered said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-jona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven," Matthew 16:15-17 The gospel of the Kingdom began with John the Baptizer and ended during the Acts period ( Acts 15:11) The gospel of the kingdom will pick up again when the body of Christ is raptured and the Lord turns His attention back to Israel and the Kingdom gospel and the 490 years prophesied in Daniel 9. Also known as the tribulation, Jacob's Trouble, or Daniel's 70th week." And this gospel of the Kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come". Matthew 24:14 To be continued, conclusion:

This dream represents the rapture of the Church.

Matthew 24:30

"And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory."

Matthew 24:31

"And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other."

Matthew 24:40

"Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left."

Matthew 24:41

"Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left."

Matthew 24:42

"Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come."

Matthew 24:43

"But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up."

Matthew 24:44

"Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.

If you're asking asking a question please re-word it. It appears you're denying the risen Christ? Matthew 26:32, Mark 14:28,

Luke 24:6, Luke 24:34, Matthew 28:6, 1 Corinthians 15:20, Mark 16:6, John 21:14, Romans 8:34, Matthew 28:7

Jode & everyone I'm sorry to intrude in your discussion earlier, with world view & opinion hopefully it wasn't unwanted. To add to the Biblical discussion I pretty much agree with most answers given. I also do not believe it to be the 'Mark' however through wisdom of this time & everything we are witnessing & experiencing we are all much more wise to see how in the future 'the beast' may try to play out that 'Mark'.

Matthew 24:24, Matthew 24:1-51, Daniel 9:21-27

I also do not believe Matthew 24:15 has yet happened, but we're told to be watchful

Luke 12:1-59, Daniel 11:24-45, note Daniel 11:35, Daniel 12:1-13, Ezekiel 39:11-29,

* 2 Thessalonians 2:1-17 the 'great falling away' hasn't happened yet either

Hopefully these are helpful