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3 PLAGUES IN THE BIBLE FROM ASIA

Revelation 16:12

The sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up, to prepare the way for the kings from the EAST.

[comment: formerly called the Silk Road; which is being rebuilt now]

Revelation 9:14-18

The number of mounted troops was twice ten thousand times ten thousand; I heard their number. And this is how I saw the horses in my vision and those who rode them: they wore breastplates the color of fire and of sapphire and of sulfur (national colors of China) and the heads of the horses were like lions' heads, and fire and smoke and sulfur came out of their mouths. By these THREE PLAGUES, A THIRD OF MANKIND IS KILLED by the fire and smoke and sulfur coming out of their mouths.

Matthew 24:14

And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

Isaiah 49:12

Behold, these shall come from AFAR, and behold, these from the north and from the west, and these from the land of SYENE.

[comment:

China gave us Swine FLU. SARS virus, Corona virus. I got a feeling that corona virus isn't done killing yet. It's morphing]

Google "Past Pandemic LIST"

(That has World death totals)

I don't think we need to act like this is just like past FLU episodes. We get a flu shot and feel protected for another year. Corona virus doesn't act like past flu's.

If your Bible doesn't have Ancient Bible Maps WITH the Ancient Names for those regions; you can google online I guess.

If the Bible can point the finger at China and regions in the Mideast (NOT Israel), then there must be some truth in it. Get those Maps out.

Mishael

I looked up those places on maps. The regions are in Asia and the Mideast; not in Israel.

There are scriptures in Genesis that explain SOME (not all) about the pre-Adamic world.

A word of caution: there are Cults that teach something called Old Earth Theory. It was used to explain archeology, geology, space exploration, ancient religions, dinosaurs, really old human bones.

Although some of these things are alluded to; does not mean a separate book was included in the Bible, or Canonized. God did not Authorize "old earth theory". There is the danger of heresy. Avoid that.

The entire Bible IS ABOUT JESUS Christ. He's practically on every page. If you miss that reality, then you can be drawn away by the Lust for self-importance. (Pride). Ego and arrogance.

The way to deep study the Bible is to get a Study Bible with a CENTER OF EACH PAGE COLUMN. The abc's imbedded in a scripture correspond to a letter in the Center column. You have to stop where you are and go read all of those notes. Those notes will lead you to even more expanded teaching. make notebooks full of notes: how you got from "here", to "there", and everything in between. Genesis jumps forward and backs up. Easy to miss.

I think, given this TIME in history [His-Story], we should concentrate on the prophesy of Daniel 12:5-13.

WE are the generation that will know what that Chapter has hidden for a very long time. They're coming unsealed. Life and goings on, all over this planet are being unsealed.

Don't get distracted now. Who stands to benefit with us being distracted and led away on fake mystery hunts? Satan.

Be relevant to the signs of the Times. Matthew 24:34, Matthew 25:35

How good are you at reading signs?

Type SIGNS in the Search Box and prepare to be amazed!

Lastly, science and theories will not secure Salvation, nor will you get to meet the Creator.

There was stuff here. Then God CREATED TIME. Genesis 1:1. Only THEN, time started ticking. Scientists can estimate age; but not time.

Mishael

Hey Wesley

The 1000 Year Kingdom will be on the earth, not in heaven, ( Revelation 11:15) It will be a time when Lord Jesus and those chosen to rule the nations with an iron rod ( Revelation 5:10). We know from ( Revelation 20:7-10), nations after the 1000 years.

The thousand-year reign of Jesus, will be after the great tribulation of Satan, the beast and the false prophet. The second coming of Jesus with the army of angels, ( Matthew 24: 29-31) ( Mark 13: 24-27) the first resurrected saints that meet Jesus in the air, ( 1 Thessalonians 4:17) Jesus' feet land on Mount of Olives ( Zechariah 14:4)



The beast and the false prophet are cast into the lake of fire and the ten king's armies of the beast that came up on Jerusalem to battle are destroyed. ( Revelation 19:11-21) and Satan is chained and put in the bottomless pit.

Then the judgment seat of Christ for those that have been chosen to reign with Him in this Millennium Kingdom. ( Revelation 20: 4-6) People will live and die during this time. and when it is over, Satan will be released and bring an army for one last battle and fire comes down and Satan is cast in the lake of fire. ( Revelation 20:7-10)

White Throne Judgment of the rest of the dead. The goats and the sheep, "some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt", "they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation" Revelation 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. And then ( Revelation 21) The marriage and the marriage supper. Jesus said at the last supper ( Matthew 26:29) ( Mark 14:25) ( Luke 22:18) when it is new.

The purpose of the thousand-year reign is to put this world in order and allow for the fulfillment of several promises God made with Israel, David and others.

This is a brief view of what I see from my study, I am sure some, maybe you, will disagree and that's ok, may it cause study.

RLW

Vicki.

Im sorry if I upset when I asked "

Is there a passage ANYWHERE in the Bible where it requires you to either believe or disbelieve the rapture as a requirement for salvation??

If I'm wrong I stand to be corrected.

Please give the passages!!!

You stated "those who believe there's a rapture believes Christ comes first "

That's not true!!

There's some believe Christ comes in the clouds before the antichrist ( pre trib.)

There's some believes Christ comes in the middle of the tribulation. ( Mid trib )

And there's some says Christ comes at the end of the Tribulation. ( Post trib..)

You quoted.

Matthew 24:46 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.

DOING WHAT?? Talking about the rapture or spreading the Gospel??

Getting someone to see as you do in this matter about the rapture won't save lives!!

That's all I was saying.

However we do no the saints are removed.



1 Thessalonians 4:17. Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

God bless.

Brother Paul, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

Matthew 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth PASS...till ALL BE FULFILLED.

Before Christ's death and resurrection, Christ DID NOT dwell or live in man; but in (old) heaven and (old) earth, the OLD DWELLING PLACE of GOD, temples made by man's hands.

After Christ's death and resurrection; the old heaven and old earth PASSED AWAY, and ALL THINGS were made NEW. A New Heaven and A New Earth. Christ now dwells in us.

Revelation 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth (CHRIST IN YOU): for the first heaven and the first earth WERE PASSED AWAY (already completed).

This fulfils the words he spoke in Matthew 5:18, Mark 13:31, Matthew 24:35, Luke 21:33, etc.

The law and prophets were fulfilled at Christ's death and resurrection; therefore all the laws and ordinances of the Old Testament are NO LONGER IN EFFECT.

Heaven and earth HAVE PASSED; the law and prophets NAVE BEEN FULFILLED.

Brother David,

Amen. Thanks for reminding us to adhere and believe entirely in bible scripture..and not to any mans interpretation!

Matthew 24:4

"And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you."

Matthew 24:44 Therefore be ye also READY: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.

When growing up we had to be ready to eat at meal time. Hair combed, clean washed, dressed proper. Jesus said if you are coming to the marriage supper of the Lamb be READY.

Richard Estrada

The interpretation of the 7 years, last week placed at the end times was what I was discussing. Where after the first 3.5 years of peace the antichrist does the abomination of desolation and causes sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and the great tribulation starts, taken from ( Daniel 9:27). Also used is, ( Matthew 24:15) and ( Mark 13:14) which combines (2 Thessalonian 2:4) as being in the middle of this 7-year interpretation using these Bible verses, which I feel is deceptive. That is what I meant, the abomination of desolation in this theory does not have anything to do with Revelation.

Babylon/Babel will be destroyed by the ten kingdoms/countries that hate the whore, who have never had power until the beast from the bottomless pit, gives them power as kings one hour with this beast. We do see in Rev. 11 the beast kills the two witnesses and that city is where our Lord was crucified and we know where that was. ( Revelation 11:8)

The destruction of this whore Babylon/Babel where ever it will be, will be destroyed close to the second coming of Jesus Christ. After it is destroyed it becomes the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird (fallen angels, and demon haven) "What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time?" at this time their time is up and into the lake they go. ( Revelation 19:11-21) "the supper of the great God"

If you believe in the rapture of the Church and this seven-year interpretation and all that is taught in it we may not agree. We need just to encourage each other in our faith in Jesus and our walk in the Spirit of truth.

RLW

2 Peter 2:5, declares Noah to be a "preacher of righteousness". However, we're not told how he communicated God's Message to the people, whether during the building of the Ark ( Hebrews 11:7) or at other times. His soul would have been vexed by the wickedness around him, as Lot's was with the Sodomites ( 2 Peter 2:7,8).

Genesis 5:32 shows Noah's age as 500 years old & then when he was 600 years old ( Genesis 7:6), the flood waters came upon the Earth. And somewhere between that time ( Genesis 6:3) God declared that man's days "shall be a hundred & twenty years". I guess that's how the understanding arose about God's time limit for man to take stock of his remaining days.

So about the "Rapture". I know of the couple verses people use to back up this claim. Though as in Matthew 24:30-31 Christ states the Son of Man will come in the clouds and gather His elect after the tribulation.

Like I stated in another post about the "Rapture". If it is God's Will to snatch up His saints before the great tribulation, wonderful! If God want's His saints to go through the great tribulation to let their light shine to others, or some other reason, wonderful! It is God's Will that shall be done not ours.

You state that if "people don't believe there is a catching away of the saints" then "Paul made a horrific mistake". Just to be clear are you speaking of a pre-trib Rapture?. Maybe the mistake was made by man trying to discern the Word of God by the minds of men.

Again my feeling is to hope for the best(a pre-trib Rapture where we are snatched away from this evil world before the worst times) but be ready for the worst(make sure our faith in the Lord is solid and sure that we are ready to give our lives for Him).

I don't think any of us knows exactly what is going to happen. As long as we are with the Lord nothing in this life should scare us.

God Bless.

Yes I heard that before but I don't buy it , is there proof of that happening and did Noah record it ? He was the only left and seven others .

But if you look today no one lives more than 120 yrs old even with billions of people , of course there can be exceptions.

So mans days where shorted to 120 yrs no doubt about it .

Ricky,

You could be right, but Jesus said this of the end-times:

( Matthew 24:34)

32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:

33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors (day of the Lord).

34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

( Revelation 8:13)

13 And I beheld, and heard an angel flying through the midst of heaven, saying with a loud voice, Woe, woe, woe, to the inhabiters of the earth by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of the three angels, which are yet to sound!

The last 3 trumpets happen close to each other for a reason, and are separated from the 1st 4 trumpets. It is more feasible to count the tribulation and great tribulation (3.5 years) equal to a 40 year generation that will not pass till these things are accomplished.

God bless

Bill, if you're referring to Genesis 6:3, the 120 years written here isn't given to show a generation (of years) of mankind, but how many years God had given mankind in Noah's day to heed the warning & repent. Within 120 years the flood had arrived & sadly only eight souls were saved.

I don't get current events from media , it's all agenda driven .

I Gave up on google it's apart of the same agenda .

A generation is 120 yrs .

Happened back when The Lord said so in Genesis because of sin . Notice reality kicking in to this day no lives a full 120 yrs .

It's been that way for centuries.

Yes Gods word is reality .

I do not get prophetic input from media. I get it from combing through the Bible.

I googled 'Silk Road' to find China rebuilt it, all the way to Europe. (Right near Israel too)

I put 'China' in this website search engine, and up popped 3 scriptures indicating that pestilence would come from Asian and Mideast regions. I got the maps out and did a big search on that.

China's national colors are in the Bible!!

The last war will be fought over WATER. No one in the Mideast has enough. Guess what? Google the water pipeline Israel is building now!

I'm not publishing comments by books or writers. I get it all from the Bible. That's why I said last night: we are the generation Daniel wrote of.

Crack the books, all the ancient maps you can find.

Our governments have not even heard of these prophesies! They are making plans for wars and rumors of wars, based on Nothing! They are playing right into Gods Endtime program. Which he watches diligently.

Who am I? I am nobody. I'm about to turn 70. I have seen many things happen in my generation. This is the Terminal Generation. A generation is NOT 40 yrs. Thats why some predictions failed. Jesus gave us specific signs. Prophesy gives events that have to unfold a certain way. Our Teacher, the Holy Spirit, is who guides us. He has the Light.

If we read through scripture too fast, we miss the key pointers. If we don't speak Gods Word, everything we say in our flesh, will amount to nothing.

Israel is living within prophesy now, more than ever before. We see it by what God had his people write down in the Bible. Some had dreams or visions. NOW, we have daily newspapers to compare the past, to the present Now. Knowledge has increased!

My advise: stop gnashing on old manna; start digging and praying without ceasing, on Gods End Of Days.

The Bema seat of Christ will tell who did good, or who gathered wood, hay and stubble. Search that out.

Mishael

I know people do not know all the words of the story, or they would not have elected people that are overthrowing every institution that this country has fought and died for, on the battlefields. This nation makes a mockery of our Constitution, Flag, the Lords Prayer and the words printed on our money: IN GOD WE TRUST.

Shame on us for not using our vote, to vote for God! Now we will see what it means when the domino effect, takes place. Put a bookmark in Leviticus 26: 14-39. We're there: the 5th Cycle.

Not all of the Book of Daniel has been accomplished.

Daniel 12 (for starters)

3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.

4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and SEAL THE BOOK, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and KNOWLEDGE shall be increased.

8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?

9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed TILL THE TIME OF THE END.

10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but THE WISE shall understand.

11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.

13 But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.

Not only this, but Antichrist is clearly described in Daniel; and his campaign to take over nations. Knowledge is increasing. I do believe the 4 Horseman are here.

Now is a good time to read and discuss Prophesy.

What is the Holy Spirit showing us for today?

Scott,

Matthew 24:13

He that keeps the faith to the end, will be saved means just that. At Revelation 11:15 and 1 Thessalonians 4:17 it happens. Whether you are a firstfruit, or part of the 2nd resurrection, you endured and will be rewarded.

Blessings, and make the most of the time left.

Brother Scott, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

Matthew 24:13 But he that shall endue to the END (times), the same shall be saved.

You say the subject is end times and tribulation.

Did the people 1900 years ago have to consider this verse also. Did they died without Christ; not making it to the end times and tribulation. Whats going to happen to you if you die before the tribulation and the end times come. I don't think you understand End TIME and TRIBULATION.

Revelation 22:10 Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for THE TIME IS AT HAND.

I COME QUICKLY

Revelation 3:11

Revelation 22:7

Revelation 22:12

Revelation 22:20

Revelation 2:16

Revelation 11:14

Revelation 2:5

It has been 2000 year since these words were written; is that QUICKLY, perhaps with more study and more REVELATION, TRUTH would be more clear.

Hebrews 9:28

Colossians 3:4

He APPEARS to us now in TRUTH of HIS WORD (written and living, Holy Spirit). At the death of this body of flesh (end time) he shall APPEAR to us to FACE to FACE.

1 John 3:2

Ephesians 4:13

Ephesians 1:10

Isaiah 27:12 ....and ye shall be gathered ONE BY ONE...

Matthew 24:13, "But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved."

The literal translation from the Greek is, but the one who HAS endured, not the one who will, but the one who has endured unto the end, this one will be saved.



The first thing is, because it is an Aorist Participle, it shows the proof of those who are saved, and it matches the rest of the teachings in the New Testament.



The person who is saved WILL endure to the end. So we have the proof, and secondly, the promise of salvation. That is a promise!



Since the Bible uses a lot of future tenses, some say that salvation isn't here and now, but later. No! that is a promise. You are saved now. And when all this is over, the ones who will be saved are the ones who have endured unto the end.

Salvation is present tense. It is something we have now. All those who have been born of God's Spirit are the ones who endure till the end!

Lori, if you type 'alien' & 'aliens' in the Search the Bible Box at the top left of the main page, you will see the references come up. I would say that in all cases, reference to aliens implies 'strangers or foreigners', & not to extra-terrestrial creatures.

I don't understand why no one is looking at the context of the verse. The subject is the end times and tribulation. You have to look at that phrase in the context of the chapter. It's talking about enduring to the end of the tribulation during the end times.

I was dumb as a rock, serving Satan, involved in astrology. Not the magazine stuff.

God can reach into their miserable worlds and pull them out of the dark, into His Light. My little grandmother was praying for me; sending me Jesus love letters.

Maybe tack a few minutes onto our interceding prayertime and ask God for supernatural salvations within the news media.

Interesting reading online: the Silk Road Rebuilt, The Pipeline Israel is building to bring in drinking water; the Nations fighting against it.

Jerusalem Post for Israel news.

Turkey erasing Ancient Christian shrines, churches.

Erase your cookies.

I don't believe anything I hear on TV or online in the 'news' anymore. Most is just lies and deceit and biased opinion not based in reality. What if 99% of what they say just isn't true? And what if people assume it's true and live their lives believing things that aren't even real. It's unbelievable deception. People have been lying a long time too, only recently have we seen so much of it exposed. And the fake news tries to legitimize their lies by paying for 'fact check' websites which are further propaganda. Most things on there are also lies. I think God is shaking His head at how stupid people are and how corrupt they've become. One day a line will be crossed and he's going to wipe people out. Like sheep preparing for the slaughter.

Mishael,

Don't believe the lies and propaganda about Russia. It's planted by owned media outlets who traffic in lies. Do you believe the US media, or the politicians? What's to stop a British spy from poisoning the enemy of an enemy and blame it on Russia. Wouldn't the constant treachery edge you closer to the button?

Soon Russia defeats US, then Jesus defeats Russia starting the 1k year reign.

Same Subject Different Week on Matthew 24

As you tire, so does the Lord: Amos 5:20-23

20 Shall not the day of the LORD be darkness, and not light? even very dark, and no brightness in it?

21 I hate, I despise your feast days, and I will not smell in your solemn assemblies.

22 Though ye offer me burnt offerings and your meat offerings, I will not accept them: neither will I regard the peace offerings of your fat beasts.

23 Take thou away from me the noise of thy songs; for I will not hear the melody of thy viols.

It's always the same old story, different century.

Where are aliens mentioned in the bible

Every weekend we discuss, "which day is the Sabbath."

WHAT did Jesus say?

WHAT did Jesus do?

What did the Pharisees, Sadducees, Scribes, say about it?

What has the Holy Spirit (the Teacher Jesus left with us), SAY?

Last question: WHAT day are your Church's doors open for Services?

Skip the Commentaries for 1 day, and see what we can glean from scripture.

There's a scripture that God is going to utterly wipe out Russia. God is tired of their incendiary politics. They mess with our elections without fear. Someone in our nation is a traitor.

16 And thou shalt come up against my people of Israel, as a cloud to cover the land; it shall be in the latter days, and I will bring thee against my land, that the heathen may know me, when I shall be sanctified in thee, O Gog, before their eyes.

17 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Art thou he of whom I have spoken in old time by my servants the prophets of Israel, which prophesied in those days many years that I would bring thee against them?

18 And it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, that my fury shall come up in my face.

19 For in my jealousy and in the fire of my wrath have I spoken, Surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel;

20 So that the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the field, and all creeping things that creep upon the earth, and all the men that are upon the face of the earth, shall shake at my presence, and the mountains shall be thrown down, and the steep places shall fall, and every wall shall fall to the ground.

21 And I will call for a sword against him throughout all my mountains, saith the Lord GOD: every man's sword shall be against his brother.

22 And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that are with him, an overflowing rain, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone.

23 Thus will I magnify myself, and sanctify myself; and I will be known in the eyes of many nations, and they shall know that I am the LORD.

please keep myself and my daughters Deanna and Jessica and there families in your prayers

Oh yes I can feel it, I got so excited reading this, it feels like my heart is doing summer-salts, I read, I listen, I ask for enlightenment, slowly I'm learning, the rapture is what I'm studying now, and the more I study the more I know the rapture is real, and I am so happy and so vary grateful Our Heavenly Father touched my heart to want to draw close to Jesus, so thank you for your message bless you and hay I might see you in heaven, God bless.