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Hi Jack,

In Matthew 24 Jesus describes events before, during and after the sixth trumpet, 42 month great tribulation. The verses are mystical, interwoven magic. People confuse, or conflate the sixth and seventh trumpets, but there are differences.

( Matthew 24:36) states that no man knows the time of Jesus Christ's triumphant "seventh trumpet" return, but the Father.

Only God knows when the seventh trumpet will sound on Mt Olive, and the mystery of God will be over.

God reveals the season and time of day of the sixth trumpet Mystery Babylon attack revealing the man of sin:

( Jeremiah 15:8-9) The spoiler at "noonday", when the sun is high in the sky; 3pm.

11pm ( Luke 21:20-24)



( Luke 17:34-37) They're not being resurrected, they're dead.

Recognize these are perilous times. America balances on the tail end of bully days.

Matt.24:1-35 refers to destrustion of Jerusalem, as "this generation shall not pass till these things have been done", then the nex5 verses states "But"

, in contrast to all before there are no signs, but you just have to be ready.. the "these things" in verse 1-34 are signs of coming Jerusalem destruction, NOT end of world,

If "end of world" as many teach, then how will fkeeing to mountains save you?

Why hope it is not in the winter?

If on housetop, dont go back into house for your possessions?

Verse 36 is the KEY... "BUT...

Dear Jo Ann,

Trials and Tribulations refer to times of testing or difficulties. It may be personal as a trial of your faith as mentioned in 1 Peter 1:6-7 or it may refer to a time of extreme suffering as referred to by Christ for the Jewish believers during the time when the world is under the control of the Antichrist. Matthew 24:21. That is known as the "great tribulation" and is what Revelation is about.

Read everything in context and pray that the Holy Spirit give you understanding by comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

Temptation is another word that can be used for personal trials. See 1 Corinthians 10:13. Remember that God always allows trials, tribulations and temptations to refine and grow our faith in Him and show us How much he loves us.

Dear Jack, I believe you are right in stating that Matt 24 is about the destruction of Jerusalem. Not the end of the world. It is further revelation Christ was giving about Daniel's revelation concerning the abomination that makes desolate, the tribulation and later revealed to John concerning the judgment of Israel and the setting up of God's Kingdom on earth. I also believe that the key to understanding what is meant about "this generation" Matt 24:34 can be found in Psalm 22 a prophetic psalm of Christ and the "little flock" that will rule with Christ in the Kingdom on earth. See Ps. 22:30 I would love to hear from you.

Matt.24:1-35 refers to destrustion of Jerusalem, as "this generation shall not pass till these things have been done", then the nex5 verses states "But"

, in contrast to all before there are no signs, but you just have to be ready.. the "these things" in verse 1-34 are signs of coming Jerusalem destruction, NOT end of world,

If "end of world" as many teach, then how will fkeeing to mountains save you?

Why hope it is not in the winter?

If on housetop, dont go back into house for your possessions?

Verse 36 is the KEY... "BUT...

Text: Matthew 24:1-14.

Theme: Christ's prophecy what is to come in the future.

Intro: Christ prophesied Matthew 24 when He was departing from the temple: the disciples

followed Him and asked Him a question that triggered the disciples' hearts, Jesus tells them that

Jerusalem including the temple shall be destroyed. False religion, false doctrine and false gospel

shall abound. False Christ including false prophets shall appear and seduce many, Nations and

kingdom shall rise up against each other, nation betray nation and kingdom betray kingdom.

Pestilence, natural disasters shall occur, believers shall be myrted, mankind betray one another,

and the hearts of many shall wax cold toward God, parents and friends. The good news is, Christ

comforts His disciple Matt 24:6b.

Hi Mary.

Matthew 24:36-39 (KJV) But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Luke 17:26-27 (KJV) And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.

They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.

God bless you,

I hope that helps.

Matthew 24:37-39.

Can you give the interpretation of Matthew 24:17,18 concerning the end times?

Part 4

Ezekiel 38:18-23

The Lord Jesus Christ standing on Mount Olive:

The seventh trumpet sounds:

( Revelation 16:15) Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame. [Jesus comes as a thief at both sixth & seventh trumpets]

vs 18 And it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, that my fury shall come up in my face

vs 19 For in my jealousy and in the fire of my wrath have I spoken, Surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel;

( Revelation 11:15) And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. ( Revelation 16:17) ( John 19:30)

( Ezekiel 37:1-14) Resurrection: ...vs 10 So I prophesied as he commanded me, and the breath came into them, and they lived, and stood up upon their feet, an exceeding great army. vs 11 ...these bones are the whole house of Israel. vs 14 And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live,..

( Matthew 24:30) And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

( Revelation 1:7)

( Revelation 19:11-16)

( Revelation 19:19-20)

vs 20 ...Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle. ( Zechariah 14:1-4) ....Then shall the LORD go forth...And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives...

( Zechariah 14:12)

God removes the 'northern army':

( Joel 2:20-21)

( Daniel 11:40)

( Jeremiah 6:22-23)

( Jeremiah 50:3)

( Jeremiah 50:41)

vs 23 Thus will I magnify myself, and sanctify myself; and I will be known in the eyes of many nations, and they shall know that I am the LORD.

Part 1 continued:

( Ezekiel 21:12) Cry and howl, son of man: for it shall be upon my people,...smite therefore upon thy thigh. "smite therefore upon thy thigh" is reference to Jacob wrestling an angel for the birthright he obtained from a hungry Esau, for a bowl of lentil soup. Wrestling the angel permanently injured Jacob's thigh ( Genesis 32:24-25). Seen as our "Jacob's time of trouble"; the great tribulation.

God made both Gog and Esau "small" and "despised "( Obadiah 1:2) Behold, I have made thee small among the heathen: thou art greatly despised.

( Daniel 11:23) And after the league made with him he shall work deceitfully: for he shall come up, and shall become strong with a small people.

( Matthew 24:21-22) For then shall be great tribulation....

( 2 Thessalonians 2:3) The falling away is the abomination of desolation.

( Mark 13:14) ( Matthew 24:15)

( 2 Peter 3:10) (Mathew 3:11)

( Amos 5:18) ( Amos 5:20)

( Daniel 11:31)

( Revelation 17:16-17)

( Daniel 9:27)

( Jeremiah 51:53)

( Revelation 18) vs 20 ...for in one hour is she made desolate.

( Revelation 18:9-10) ...for in one hour is thy judgment come. ( Ezekiel 18:26)

( Daniel 12:6-7)

Israel (house) is notably attacked [from the south to the north]:

( Ezekiel 21:2-4) And say to the land of Israel (northern kingdom),...therefore shall my sword go forth out of his sheath against all flesh [from the south to the north].

( Ezekiel 20:46-47) ....Behold, I will kindle a fire in thee, and it shall devour every green tree in thee, and every dry tree:...and all faces [from the south to the north] shall be burned therein.

( Isaiah 21:1) ....As whirlwinds in [the south pass through]; so it cometh from the desert, from a terrible land (Gog's land)

( Job 37:9)

( Isaiah 24) "Day of the Lord" aftermath.

( Revelation 9:18) By these three was the third part of men killed...

Hi Juan, it is resolved that the Word is Jesus in this passage- one has to twist things significantly to get it to mean anything else, as already demonstrated. Open dialog is good, but we should pray for wisdom first before reading the Bible and ask God for understanding. We must seek Him. If someone attempts to undermine Jesus' divinity, that should always be a red flag. Such things don't come from God. We must keep our armor of God on and keep watch. The Bible predicts there will be deceivers, 1 John 2:22, Mark 13:22, 2 Thessalonians 2:3-12, Matthew 24:24. It sounds unbelievable, but some Christians I've heard even elevate themselves on the same level as Jesus Christ, which fits what these verses say will happen near the end times.

God bless...

If I may also reply to your post Word 76.

Now the "rapture" is of coarse controversial to the church with usually three or four variants of when this happens. I myself would never say "the rapture is a lie". How would anyone know the exact plans of God? How deep His mind is as it could mean numerous things. Very much the literal "harpazo" or "snatching away by force" of the Church of Christ from this earth. The word "cloud" in 1 Thessalonians 4:17. is the Greek word "nephele" and means just that "a cloud in the air".

As I've stated before on this subject. We must be ready for the return of our Lord Jesus Christ at all times. As in what hour you think not is when the Son of Man cometh. Matthew 24:44. Weather a "rature" or when our life here ends does not really matter. It is going to be one or the other and of coarse most likely we shall have to go through physical death. We must endure till the end. Though I would never say the Lord is not going to snatch away His Church one day from this wicked world. I pray ever single day the Lord takes me home. Though everything is His Will not ours. We must be patient and solid in the Lord.

The word "rapture" comes from the Latin word "rapiemur", which is from "rapto", having the same meaning as the Greek "harpazo". Which is used in the Latin Vulgate in 1 Thessalonians 4:17.

God Bless.

Hello, I don't believe such assumptions are true. I believe the Bible is true exactly in what it says: 1 Thessalonians 4:14-17, when it says both those asleep (dead) and those alive will meet Jesus in the air and clouds it meets exactly that.

When it says one will be taken the other left, it also means exactly that: Luke 17:34-36. And when it says the same thing here, it also means that too: Matthew 24:40-41. Rapture is just a convenient word people use to describe what Jesus told us would happen.

Ezekiel 13 isn't related to this rapture. God bless.

Brother Carleton,

Thank you very much for your reply. I very much enjoyed reading of the things about the vision of another brother about a year ago. That is also amazing how your wife came home today with that book and the title is close to what I stated in that "the Lord is closer than we may think". The Lord is so perfect!

I usually don't post things about my personal experiences with the Lord. Though today as I was getting a bit emotional while praying I heard that He wanted me to share that with you all.

As none of us know exactly what is to happen and when. We must make sure we are ready for the Lord to come at any time. As we are taught in Matthew 24:42-44. I know a lot of people are waiting for a "rapture" which may happen and of coarse is the best thing for us with the Lord. Though I really don't see it being that easy for us.

Like said no matter what happens have no fear. We must endure till the end no matter what. Glory and honor to our Father in Heaven through Jesus Christ our Lord.

God Bless you my brother.

Thank you. In all thy getting get wisdom.. Blessings

The whore would be an economical(trade) system. Maybe of the CC. The beast will hate the whore city and remove her citizens and leave the city defenseless. Then the beast will consume her, meaning the city merchandise and destroy the city. Then maybe the beast will then bring in the mark system after the whore is gone away. The whore will cause, maybe by seduction, the kings of the earth to commit fornication before getting whacked.

Rev 17:16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.

Hi Adam,

As I'd just like to reply to your post and just to bring peace. Like I stated how I agree with Jesse on his view I also agree with you on this. As you give solid reasons in you posts. How even angels have been known to have sinned and turn from God.

Me giving the answer of "yes and no" to this question of OSAS I'm sure would not hold up well to most. Though as I stated that God knows who shall endure until the end as in Matthew 24:13 being they that shall be saved. The Lord knowing His sheep. Though we as men should not take this situation lightly at all. Nobody knows what will happen tomorrow. As we have been bought with a price and we are His children 1 Corinthians 6:19-20. To live by His Will not our own and to follow our Lord Jesus Christ with zeal.

Taking this in the way of the parable of the sower in Matthew 13:18-23, seems to be accurate. In that those who fall away may have not even been truly saved in the first place. Though only God can really answer that truthfully.

We must strive to not lose our savor as our Lord told us. To run the race till the end keeping the faith.

Again I also side with you in that this is no small matter to take lightly as some may today. Just reading through the first three chapters of Revelation and seeing how Jesus Christ spake unto the churches. Having good things to say and bad things to get them to repent of and focus on Him. Sometimes I say to some people "Would you want the Lord to be happy with you or disappointed in you"?

We have been Blessed with free will. This is what makes people who endure till the end even more special. With a pure heart. To one day be glorified and be with our Lord where He is. Amen.

"For by grace are ye saued, through faith, and that not of your selues: it is the gift of God:"

Ephesians

Msconnie, may the Spirit (truth) grace you with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

Very FEW understand the kingdom or heaven or HEAVEN or THE GOSPEL or the good news.

WHERE DOES GOD DWELL?

Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for behold, the kingdom of God IS WITHIN YOU.

1 Corinthians 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God DWELLETH in you?

1 Kings 8:27 But will God indeed DWELL ON THE EARTH? behold the HEAVEN and HEAVEN OF HEAVENS cannot contain THEE; how much less this HOUSE (TEMPLE) that I have builded?

Hebrews 3:6 For Christ is a Son over his own HOUSE; whose HOUSE WE ARE....

Hebrews 9:1-2 .....WE have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the THRONE ( Isaiah 66:1) of the majesty in the HEAVENS; (YOU)

(vs 2) A minister of the sanctuary, and TRUE TABERNACLE, which the Lord pitched and not man.

Psalms 148:4 Praise him, YE HEAVEN OF HEAVENS...

Matthew 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in HEAVEN....

Hebrews 12:23

Romans 8:29

Colossians 1:27 .....CHRIST IN YOU

You never die if ye are born of the SPIRIT you just change bodies.

1 Corinthians 15:51-58

Why does this KJV call Noah "Noe" in verses 24:37 and 24:38. Can it be that 2 Timothy 3:16 is correct on correcting the scriptures of inspiration. My NKJV says his name is Noah, we all know the prophet Noah. What's up with Noe?

Just to post this unless anyone else has seen. They are calling someone Messiah in Israel. They were kissing his hand and lots of people trying to get him on camera.

Matthew 24:5. For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

S Spencer, a parable to you, you said I am green.

Matthew 24:32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth (green) leaves, you know summer is nigh.

Revelation 22:2 ..... And the leaves shall be for the healing of the nations......

GBY

Without delving too deep in theology, Divine Election is essentially God choosing who are to belong to Him.

We have the Old Testament references to God's choosing Israel: Isaiah 42:1; Isaiah 45:4; Isaiah 65:9; Matthew 24:22 (Matthew is still OT in this respect). Israel wasn't a nation at the time of God's choosing nor did its forefathers deserve anything for God choosing them, but that He wanted a "special people, to set His Love upon them, & to keep His Oath made to their forefathers" ( Deuteronomy 7:6-8).

In the New Testament (post Cross), the Apostle Paul speaks of God's Elect as being from both Israel & the Gentiles: under "the election of Grace" (Romans chapter 11) and Colossians 3:12; 1 Peter 1:2.

So we understand from Scripture, that God chooses whomever He desires to be His very Own. Yet, after the advent of Jesus Christ & His Sacrifice for all (Jew & Gentile), God's choosing is based on the Cross & yet the remnant of disbelieving Israel will still figure at the end times.

Then maybe your question is in respect of how that Divine Election affects sinful mankind now: are some forever lost without hope, or are some dragged kicking & screaming into the Kingdom, none having any choice because of Divine Election? To answer this, God's choosing of those to be saved is entirely because of His Determination & His Plans. Since we know that God is an Omniscient God (He knows all things from eternity to eternity), His Plans must include those who come into the world, the life path they take, their hearing of the Gospel & their response to it.

Acts 13:48: "And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed." "Ordained to eternal life". This is election, showing that God, Who had appointed some to eternal life, followed through with believing on His Son. In other words, whom God chooses will be saved - those who refuse His Son are not part of the elect or chosen of God.

Does God love us more than those who came before us? From Pentecost to now, have we become more holy or more worthy that we should be spared from what all the believers in Christ had to endure that came before us? The body of Christ in the past have been stoned, beheaded, crucified, impaled and dipped in oil, lit as lamps along roadsides, burned at the stake, fed to lions, killed by gladiators, and tortured beyond imagination. Inflicted by kingdoms, empires, and countries throughout history even by the Roman Catholic Church, and is still going on. Do we think the end times will be worse than they have had to endure?

Why should the last generation be spared? "Take heed that no man deceive you"!

The great tribulation and the wrath of God, are not the same thing. We will be spared the wrath of God, but we have been promised tribulations, the wrath of God is after the second coming of Christ when there is no more repentance.

Acts.14:22 Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.

1 Thessalonians 3:4 For verily, when we were with you, we told you before that we should suffer tribulation; even as it came to pass, and ye know.

Matthew 24:21,29 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

1 Thessalonians 1:10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.

Revelation 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

Out of love, Ron

Good morning brother,

Truly no one knows the exact time of the "end" except our Father in Heaven. Though we must be vigilant in what is going on in the world around us. I would say things are getting quite Biblical/historical.

As you stated what is most important for us is to keep our faith in the Lord. Focus on Him with a pure heart. To be ready for Him at the time we least expect. As any of us could die/be killed at any moment which to me can be paralleled to the coming of the Lord. Weather we are to be here to see the end, or not, to me does not really make much difference. The Lord is everything to me. As everything in this world is vanity.

Matthew 10:34-38. Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

He that loveth father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me.

And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after Me, is not worthy of Me.

Matthew 24:42-51.

Luke 9:60-62. Jesus said unto him, Let the dead bury their dead: but go thou and preach the kingdom of God.

And another also said, Lord, I will follow thee; but let me first go bid them farewell, which are at home at my house.

And Jesus said unto him, No man, having put his hand to the plough, and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God.

The devil is very cunning and crafty. It may not be as easy to spot certain things, of the end, as some perceive it. We are living in times like never before. I myself see this shot as "them" trying to corrupt the flesh of people. Why God flooded the world in the time of Noah. Only God knows if I'm right or wrong. The truth shall come to light one day.

God Bless you my brother. Have a wonderful day.

Hi Raymond, I'm not sure who you're referring to by 'we', but I can assure you I'm not worshipping anyone other than God Exodus 20:3. Jesus is the only way to the Father as it says in John 14:6. Anyone who says otherwise is already described in the Bible, like in Matthew 7:15, Matthew 24:24. God bless.

"This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears" Luke 4:21

"Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts" Hebrew 4:7

"Behold, now is the accepted time, now is the day of salvation" 2 Corinthians 6:2

"How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation." Hebrews 2:3

"And God is able to make all grace abound toward you" 2 Corinthians 9:8

"The goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance" Romans 2:4

"Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints, and of the household of God; and are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone" Ephesians 2:19-20

"Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that these ye might be partakers of the divine nature" 2Peter 1:4

"For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works" Titus 2:11-14

"the spirit of grace and supplications" Zechariah 12:10

"For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh) dwelleth no good thing" Romans 7:18

"But by the grace of God I am what I am" 1 Corinthians 15:10

"This is the true grace of God wherein ye stand" 1Peter 5:12

"Be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life" Revelation 2:10

"He that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved" Matthew 24:13

"See that ye abound in this grace" 2 Corinthians 8:7

"Grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ" 2Peter 3:18

"For God resisteth the proud and giveth grace to the humble." 1 Peter 5:5

"Know ye not that...ye are not your own? For ye are bought with a price" 1 Corinthians 6:19-20

"We love him, because he first loved us" 1 John 4:19

"That he would grant unto us, that we being delivered out of the hand of our enemies might serve him without fear, in holiness and righteousness before him, all the days of our life" Luke 1:74-75

"If ye love me , keep my commandments" John 14:15

"If a man love me, he will keep my words" John 14:23

"And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?" Luke 6:46

"Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven" Matthew 1032-33

"This same Jesus which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in a like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven" Acts 1:11

"And then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory" Matthew 24:30

"And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory" Luke 21:27

"And before him shall be gathered all nations" Matthew 25:32

...but with the mark of the beast one will not be able to buy or sell at all, anywhere.

In addition to this, the word pharmacy comes from the Greek word pharmakeus, which comes from pharmakon meaning 'magician' or 'sorcerer' in Strong's concordance.

Revelation 9:20-21 (KJV)

[20] And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk:

[21] Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries (Strong's Greek 5333 - pharmakn), nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.

I have also seen comments online regarding the connection between 'tikto' and 'TikTok' (an evil platform), which as far as I am aware was heavily promoted alongside the rise of this virus, along with the connection 'TikTok' has with time. 'TikTok' (which I am assuming is from 'tick tock') means that the clock is ticking, and I believe can also be used to mean that time is running out.

Strong's Exhaustive Concordance for Tikto:

'bear, be born, bring forth

A strengthened form of a primary teko tek'-o (which is used only as alternate in certain tenses); to produce (from seed, as a mother, a plant, the earth, etc.), literally or figuratively -- bear, be born, bring forth, be delivered, be in travail.'

The last definition what Jesus said when speaking about the beginning of the end time events in Matthew 24:1-8 and Mark 13:1-8 being the 'beginning of sorrows'. In the interlinear Bible, the word 'dinn' is used and is translated as 'birth pangs'.

Matthew 24:1-8 (KJV)