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I read some of it. I don't know where you live or what you face on a daily basis. I do know God cares about what offends us; because Jesus said offenses would come.

We choose, on daily basis, what we are willing to live for; and die for. Romans 1:20 clearly says that people are without EXCUSE. There is no way to justify doing things contrary to what the Bible says. It's not written in confusion and contrariness.

People always try to have Dominion over other men; women; no matter race, color, religion. God DID NOT give man / woman, dominion over people. And yet, since the beginning, that is what has happened throughout the history of time! It is sinful. We are without excuse. In sin, we turn away and do our own pleasure.

It's going to end badly. Look at United States: if we get rid of police enforcement; we are wide open for a form of martial laws.

Non-Christian people do not see this coming! Hot-headed and clueless. Wicked people in the shadows are orchestrating the progression of what is happening. Now is a time to pray for SPIRITUAL DISCERNMENT; of the Wicked spirits that are the engine driving people to the end of this age. It's time to grab onto Jesus and not let go.

The Lord showed me Matthew 24: 2, 4, 11-13. I had only asked Him, how is USA with all its pride going to be made to BOW it's knee. Time to switch gears because we are running out of time!

The harvest is ripe and we are called to be His Workers. Load the Ark. How hard is that? Switch gears. We have go with the Gospel that is inside of us; written in our hearts!

Does Jesus love all those hothead people? Yep. If we preach...they will repent and pray the prayer. We can't sit this out in a foxhole ?!?!?

How the heck do we get Christians to change gears? Pray to the Lord of the Harvest! Don't you feel any urgency?

Work the Prayer Request room.

Forget Noah-ides. Irrelevant.

Thank you for sharing your insight online.

Amageddon is warfare betwn good Gods' people and bad evil satans' people my question is has it been ongoing or not yet started,i know that good Gods' people will win the fight and triumph.

Stay Strong everyone.

I agree. and too an abusive level.

domestic abuse rate gone up.

The Beginning Of Evils.

Isaiah 5:20

Proverbs 29:2 I'm mourning.

Verse 4 and 5 spoke to me long ago and made me be prudent .

They say , but do not follow Christ and have no fruit , that's how we will notice the difference. Lip service sounds good , but is only deception . Jesus will reward us for our works , not our beliefs. Be a doer not a hearer only ! But get His spirits leading or it will not work or last .

Chris,

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These are some very important subjects that you seem to be a bit unsure of. As I am sure you already are, we have to dig a little bit under the surface; that is where the hidden treasure is. If we do not understand what happened in the beginning, how will we understand what will happen in the end?

"And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man" ( Luke 17:26), also look at Isaiah 46:10, Amos 8:11, Matthew 24:37, 2 Timothy 2:15.

Since we have been discussing the first chapters of Genesis, I will leave you with this.

The sons of God are Angels, look at Job 1:6, 7. The fallen angels came down from heaven and mated SPECIFICALLY with the daughters of Adam, producing giants. The flood came not only to rid the earth of evil men, but to preserve the lineage from which Christ would come (due to the success of the fallen angels).

Satan was an angel. Eve was beguiled by Satan. The word "beguiled" means to be seduced (Strong's). What happened in the garden to Eve (and Adam) was the first attempt to blot out the seed line from which the Messiah would come, and was the same thing the fallen angels were guilty of during their second attempt. The punishment Eve (and the rest of womankind) would from that point forward endure had to do with BIRTH, look at Genesis 3:16; and the punishment Satan faced included a separation of his PROGENY from that of the woman ( Genesis 3:15).

Chris, I don't understand the reasoning to support a pre-tribulation exit and Christians being judged twice. Bob Hilt pointed out that Matthew 13 is a parable specific to the Rapture and Return of Christ. Do we have to stretch the imagination to come up with a justification for a rapid exit before the Tribulation? Can you give us more details?

I think that in light of what is specifically stated by Christ in Matthew 24:29, Paul, Peter and others, anything said that invalidates that is suspect. Where specifically is Matt 24:29 contradicted?

What is the Scriptural basis for saying, for example that, "yes, he is coming on a horse, but he is going to sneak in before that on foot?"

Willie,

Just stand on the scriptures, God will take care of the rest, He will honour Your stand on His Word.

Acts 2:38 KJV

[38] Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Find someone who will baptise you in the name of the Jesus Christ, if you haven't already.

Then you will not be tossed about by every ones opinions.

John 16:13 KJV

[13] Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

He will guide you into all truth.

1 John 2:27 KJV

[27] But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

ye need not that any man teach you

There you go Willie, that's God's Word.

Stand on it, He promised it. Praise the Lord.

Faith leads to obedience.

John 15:7 KJV

[7] If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.

You want Him to settle this doubt, ask Him and believe Him when He said - it shall be done unto you.

Matthew 24:35 KJV

[35] Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

God bless you

THY word YHWH is a lamp unto my feet and a light unto my path I thank YOU that YOU gave us your WORD and also for the many blessings YOU bestow on us daily AlleluiYAH

YOUR grace and mercy are new every morning therefore we are not consumed And we know this full well

Ann Hering. With respect to the "Mystery", Paul is not the only one to use that expression. In Rev 1:20, 17:5, 7 the Angel reveals a mystery of the end times. In Daniel 2:22, 30, 47 God reveals a mystery. A mystery is something we don't yet know or understand. In Isa 44: God tells us He is going to reveal things that have not happened. See also Amos 3:7.

Sometimes well-intentioned people teach things that seem true, but are wrong. As stated before, the Bible never segregates the Tribulation as an event that will only affect Jews. The New Testament letters were written for the Church, not for the Jews. It is God's message to us who believe, 1 Cor 1. Paul and Peter were adamant about not returning to Judaism, 2 Peter 2:22.

Perhaps Hebrews 6:4, 6, 10:26 can shed some light on this. There remains no Sacrifice for anyone that thinks they can be saved by returning to Judaism. And if that is the case, why would God nullify Christ's ultimate sacrifice on the Cross, to punish the Jews for 7 years? Sacrifices, by Jews or anyone else are worthless. So why would God want to restore them as a means for Salvation in the Tribulation? The doctrine that the Tribulation is for the Jews, absent Christians, is a fabrication that doesn't meet the test of reality. God works within the framework of reality, not fiction.

If you can show where the Bible says the Tribulation is for the Jews, please do. But first, you must deal with Matthew 24:29, 2 Tim 2, which set the stage for every other mention of the 2nd Coming and the Rapture. We know from the mouth of Jesus that He is coming Immediately After the Great Tribulation. It remains to be shown that He is coming before that for a Rapture. But if there is a place in Scripture that says otherwise, please point to it. I can tell you now, you won't find it. Every mention of a Rapture scenario follows the description in Matt 24.

Furthermore, don't believe the lie that some of the books of the NT are for the Jews. They are not.

Just reread Matthew 1,2; and when all the generations had passed Joseph met Mary and they traveled to Bethlehem and Jesus our Messiah was born. Thank you Father for your son; Yeshua Hamashiach-Jesus our Lord.

Just reread Genesis 1 and 2. For all we see is a gift from God; the sea, sky, birds, grass in the fields.

Forgive me Lord for taking everything for granted sometimes. You are good and gracious and loving.

Actually in Genesis 4 is the account of Cain killing Abel. Cain was cursed and marked for death.

When Seth was born, the genealogy restarted again. His was the seed that Jesus would be born through.

All genealogy follows the bloodline of Jesus.

Mary and Joseph were remote cousins from the bloodline of King David.

Daughters were only included in the genealogy of the bloodline of Jesus if they were in that line.

What does all this mean to us? God keeps record of all humans and children conceived to them. We're on His radar so-to-speak.

Ann Hering, The Bible is clear. See Matthew 24:29. There are differences of opinion on when Christ will return and if there will be an appearing before the coming. But the Scriptures are specific. See 2 Timothy 2. Perhaps you are right and we will be taken away before what Christ calls the Great Tribulation. That would be very nice, but it is unrealistic. Not only that, it is not Biblical.

If you take everything that is said about the Rapture and the 2nd Coming and separate them, which the Bible does not do, you are left with the same thing. Everything that is said about the Rapture falls in line with what is said about the Coming. If we say Paul distinguishes between these two events, we would contradict what he says.

1. The Bible never says the Rapture is before the Tribulation.

2. The Bible says that Christ said the Rapture is Immediately After the Tribulation.

3. The same events are attached to both (Trumpets, Clouds, Gathering, In the Air, Angels, Thief in the Night).

Where does the Bible contradict the words of Christ in Matthew 24:29?

Where does the Bible specifically say the Rapture is before the Tribulation?

But what is the real significance of what Christ and Paul said? Why is it important for Christians to know the truth about when the Rapture will take place?

I think I know the arguments, but if you list them, we can all discuss them one by one.

If Cain and Abel are the first two sons born to Adam, then why does Adam's genealogy begin with Seth? Last I checked, a person is not blotted out of his or her genealogy for being a murderer or for being murdered.

The seven dispensational teaching of Dr C.I.Scofield has been widely accepted by a

broad cross-section of Christianity. The designated titles of these divisions

denoted as dispensations may be legitimate from a logical analysis. However, they

may lead to erroneous conclusions in correctly interpreting prophecy. Therefore, it

becomes a task for others to bring truth to the light by exposing such error with the

enlightenment of the Holy Spirit. The Pre-Tribulation rapture of the Church position

is deeply embedded in Evangelical thinking today effected by the Scofield Bible and

the Dallas Theological Seminary and others. That may be your persuasion also.

Never-the-less, if that position is plainly in error, I think true Christians should be as

the Bereans, who were more noble than the Thessalonians, in that, "They searched

the Scriptures daily to see whether the things Paul was telling them were true." Do

you want me to show you samples of questionable beliefs?

The Great Tribulation of Daniel's 70th week is 7 years long.

The Wrath of God in Revelation is also seven years long.

The abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel sets himself up in the Temple in

the middle of the seven year 70th week of Daniel.

The Church is raptured after Rev Chapter 3 when Jesus has spoken to the 7 Churches.

If it is PROVABLE that the Pre-Trib option is wrong, what would God have us do?

Thank you for making the KJV Bible available Online!

Definition of Another by Merriam-Webster --- Another definition is - different or distinct from the one first considered.

John 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you ANOTHER Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

John 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.

Ann Hering - You should try tell the Christians in many other countries today that the Christians will be gone before tribulation (not wrath) they are burning them alive, killing them today in very terrible ways. I would name several countries but may not be allowed to post.

Matthew 24:29 Immediately AFTER the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: (the word after has one meaning = not before)

April, Adam, I believe, was not with Eve when the serpent was talking with her. The serpent was talking to Even when she was alone. Adam was somewhere else in the Garden. But Eve took the fruit and then then gave the fruit to her husband who possibly just walked up to her after she took the fruit. The Bible indicates that Adam knew what he was doing, in 1 Timothy 2:14 "And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression." Adam knew that Eve had sinned and because he loved her he decided to join her in whatever punishment she incurred.

James I can not find the pre trib rapture either though many others say they do.

When did Jesus say the dead in Christ would be resurrected?

John 6:39-40: Jesus said, "This is the will of Him who sent Me, that of all that He has given Me I lose nothing, but raise it up ON THE LAST DAY.

John 6:44: Jesus said, "No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up ON THE LAST DAY."

Is the LAST DAY the thousand year reign of Christ?

I believe so....then it is eternity and time is counted no more

So if Jesus himself said the dead in Christ will be raised on the LAST DAY, and Paul said we who are alive and remain will not be caught up (raptured) until AFTER the dead are raised, then where does secret pre-trib rapture fit in?

Paul in 1 Corinthians 15:52 - In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

We are changed at the LAST TRUMP and where is this found?

In REVELATION, the LAST BOOK of the Bible there are 7 trumps and the 7th trump is the LAST ONE and is at the end of the tribulation. there is not a 7th last trump prior to the tribulation.

Genesis 3;6 I just noticed that the scripture says Eve gave to Her husband who was with her.

Because the serpent was talking to Eve , what does the scripture mean when it says , Adam was with her when she gave him the fruit?

Thank you

I know Iv read that their is a calling away of the church before tribulations starts but having trouble finding it or did I just imagine it

Isn't Elijah one of two still in heaven

comments by Alex, Christ didn't come thru the seed of any man thats y it had to be a virgin birth,Jesus was simply the Word ( GOD ) made flesh and blood NOT the written word made flesh and blood but the living word made flesh and blood.Mary was not impregnated by the written word but by the living WORD, GOD ALMIGHTY WAS HIS ABSOLUTE FATHER, Thats y David said its the LORD DOING and is precious in our eyes,Had jesus come thru some mans seed he wd have to be bornagain of an incorruptible seed. But he was not defiled by any mans seed as he said outta of the hearts of MAN proceeds all manner of Evil. And its the things that come from the hearts that defiles a MAN . What think ye of Christ whos Seed is he, they replied Davids seed, But Jesus replied if David calls him Lord how can he be his seed ( his son ). The REASON he always refers to himself as the SON OF MAN IS MANKIND will have to birth a Baby Christ which is the H.G. Mankind has to bring forth fruit unto God which is the H.G. THAT WHICH IS BORN OF THE WORD/SPIRIT IS SPIRIT. TH H.G. is a Living being,our new innerman, that new creature that has to be born in us via his seed th word which is spirit. THATS th only way the kingdom can come is via his seed th word We are gonna birth a baby Christ th H.G. THAT CHILD OF Promise Unless ya receive the kingdom as a lil child etc.Thats y the scrip is saying My lil children of whom i travail in birth till Christ is formed in you thus he is truly the son of man,mankinds fruit unto to God via that good seed. Zech. calls him our 1st born our only son, Smite the shephard and the sheep will be scattered then i will turn my hand to the lil ones his offspring th babes and sucklings, spirits. Th Israel of God that are gonna be born in us via his seed. Thats y he loved that Son of Man title, Th Church is gonna have a baby Christ,Unless ya receive the kingdom as a lil Child.She brought forth a man Child. Kings shall be your nursing fathers n Queens shall be your nursing mothers, ppls

Marie, the only angel I know is my precious love who shares my life & home - and she is beautiful!

But of the other angelic beings, we are not told about their looks, except that sometimes they appear in radiant white, shining, or in human form for a specific purpose. I'm sure they look 'perfect' as God's creations & the fact that outer beauty is of no consequence in heavenly terms. God always looks at the real person (the "heart" as we call it) when he sees us & not like how people generally look at us, at our physical appearance.

Debra, no, snakes are just part of the animal kingdom created by God. I think you might be referring to Genesis chapter 3, the temptation of Adam & Eve. Satan came to tempt man & woman to sin, and he did so, by indwelling a serpent & speaking to them through it. Obviously, they seemed to accept that this talk coming from an animal was nothing unusual. However, we don't know what form this serpent took; it may well have been a taller animal with legs or such like, but we see that after God cursed Satan for doing this, the serpent was confined to slither on the ground & lick the dust (3:14).

So even though the serpent, as an animal, was cursed, it was so because of Satan's influence through it. It still is an animal that survives today as any other creature, but the evil spirit (Satan) that took it over for the temptation, is the one in question. Then verse 15, gives us the first prophecy about Jesus' Sacrifice: "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel." This means that Satan will not just attack (be enemies) to the seed of the woman (all of us), but that Jesus (as the pure Holy Seed from woman) will have victory over him at the Cross ("bruise thy head"), as Satan would "bruise His Heel" by filling the Jewish priests with evil accusations against Jesus to crucify Him. So the snake is not evil at all; but Satan is.

Did I miss something?Why everything in reply on Matthew 24:38?But Carlos,thank GOD for the Word that was given for and to us to pay a sin debt that we we could never pay.Jesus redeemed us because we were incapable us redeem ourselves.Thank GOD that He does all the work.Just think for a moment-----GOD.GOD,redeeming us back to GOD(JESUS)He came to bring us eternal life,those who believe in HIM.The law convicts,the Word frees.The law was given as a substitute teacher until the Home room teacher took over.I say this with all joy.Yes Carlos,JESUS said ;My SHEEP hear my voice,and I know them and they follow me.JESUS knows His Sheep by name and when He calls them by name they come forth.James,Carlos,Chris and on and on until there is a number that no man can count.GOD Bless.

Is snakes the most evil of all animals?