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The Bible talks about the rapture in the following verses. Beware of anyone trying to convince you it isn't there:

1 Thessalonians 4:17 - Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

Matthew 24:40-41

Luke 17:35

Revelation 3:10

1 Corinthians 15:51-52

John 14:3

Mark 13:32 says not even Jesus knows the day of when the end will be. So, be ready.

Matthew 24, Mark 13,

Please know "rapture" is not in the Bible, please read & study for yourself, Truth 2Timothy 2:15,

Job 14:12-14, 1Thessalonians 4:13-18, 2Thessalonians 2,

Revelation 10:7, Revelation 6:9-17, notice Jesus says Matthew 24:13, Mark 13:13,

Hopefully these are helpful

Dratliff,

I think the significance of this section in Matthew is that we are to trust in Jesus, no matter what our circumstances are. Matthew 14:22-33 is the section that talks about Peter walking upon the water.

I'll share this with you from my study in the hope that it might shed some light on what was taking place there.

First of all in Matthew 14:22, it says that straightway (or immediately) Jesus constrained his disciples to get into the ship.



Please notice here in Verses 22 and 23 that everything that's going to happen now is because Jesus designed it to happen. He constrained them, meaning He forced them into the ship.



So in Verse 22, we have the providence of Jesus. He forced the disciples into the ship and told them to go to the other side of the sea while He stayed behind and sent the multitudes away.

In Matthew 14:23, we see the prayer of Jesus. But notice the incident in Verse 24. Notice the peril of the disciples. They are in this ship in the middle of the sea, and they are being tossed around by the waves. They are in the middle of this huge storm.



And then the presence of Jesus in Matthew 24:25. It says that in the fourth watch of the night (which would be somewhere between three and six a.m.) that they are out there in their boat with hurricane force winds, and Jesus came to them walking upon the sea.

In Matthew 14:26, we see the perception of the disciples. The word spirit in Greek is PHANTASMA, and it where we get our English word phantom from. They thought He was a ghost. It is not the word for spirit. It is the word for ghost. They thought He was a ghost and they cried out.

Please notice here the personal word of Jesus in Matthew 14:27. It says, "But straightway Jesus spake unto them, saying, Be of good cheer; it is I; be not afraid."

I am running out of space so I will need to send a part 2.

Amen, Brother Alex:

Isaiah 54:1 Sing, O BARREN, thou that didst not bear, break forth into singing, and cry aloud, thou that didst not TRAVAIL WITH CHILD: for more are the children of the DESOLATE ( Daniel 12:11, Matthew 24:17) than the children of the married wife (Christ's bride, the virgin) saith the Lord (saith the WORD).

Isaiah 53:11 He (Christ) shall she the TRAVAIL of his BODY ( 1 Corinthians 12:27), and shall be satisfied: BY HIS KNOWLEDGE shall my (the Father's) righteous servant JUSTIFY MANY; for he shall bear their iniquities.

Micah 4:10 Be in pain, and labour to bring forth, O daughter of Zion, like a WOMAN IN TRAVAIL: for now thou shall go forth out of the city, and thou shall dwell in the field (like a beast), and thou shall even go to Babylon ( Revelation 18:4); THERE SHALL THOU BE DELIVERED; there shall the Lord redeem thee from the hand of your enemy (death).

God Bless You!

MATTHEW 24:34: THE GENERATION CONUNDRUM

It has been suggested by many that either the Lord fulfilled all things in the generation that He was on earth which He referred to here (consummating in the AD 70 Roman slaughter of the Jews and destruction of Jerusalem); or more commonly that some or all things are yet to be fulfilled within the "generation" which began in 1948 when it is said that Ezekiel's prophecy of a nation born in a day ( Isaiah 66:8; see also Ezekiel 37:21 as well as verse 4 on the "valley of dry bones.") Psalm 90:10 in my mind fairly well makes it clear the extent of the normal lifetime of a man; and other scriptures seem to indicate a generation is 40 years. The case of Noah and the Ark is sometimes brought up; as to the number of days of man being 120 years ( Genesis 6:3). As to whether that means the time until the Ark was built from that statement or the lifespan of man or both may also be in question. Whatever the case; it is clear by the time of Christ people were living lives at best similar to today. It has generally been suggested therefore that a generation is 40 years and a double fulfillment would certainly make that evident when we see the time from Christ's proclamation until 70 AD as being slightly less than 40 years.

We went through the years of expectation in 1988 as to the rapture (although the prophecy mentions the "sign of the coming of the Son of Man" which would probably be when the world sees Him in the 6th Seal or later near His return by the context of the verse). At any rate; we went through the 90's and then some said it was really 1967 and the capture of Jerusalem that started off the final generation. Jump to 2008 and that clarly didn't happen; and then the 2017 events which recognized Jerusalem as the capitol and yet we are still here in 2023. Somethin' ain't right here with the logic. We would certainly expect that because things didn't happen as expected many will fall away ( 2 Peter 3:4; Matt. 24:28).

2Timothy 4:5, 1Peter 2:19,

Sometimes Hebrews 12:7

Matthew 24:13, Mark 13:13, James 5:11,

Hopefully these are encouraging to you, as your words & scriptures were to me, thank you

Psalm 75.

Once again; we see Asaph as he does quite often give a prophetic statement as to the fate of the earth in the end with several cross references of interest.

Verse 2 seems to be a veiled reference to the Rapture; or possibly those who are Jews that believe and survive to the end of the Tribulation in the reference to "when I shall receive the congregation I will judge uprightly. (see 2 Cor. 5:10; Exodus 20:35-38 in the context of Exodus 20:34 as a future event of gathering from the nations).

Verse 3 reminds us of heaven and earth passing away in Revelation 21:1-4 and Matthew 24:35).

Verses 4 through 7 remind us of the "little horn" ( Dan. 7:8) who is Antichrist himself. God allows Satan and his throne in the Tribulation to suit his purposes; ultimately to separate wheat from chaff; and to draw everyone together at Armageddon ( Rev. 19; Psalm 2).

Revelation 14:10 is much like verse 8 referring to the "wine of the wrath of God". That theme is also seen in Jeremiah 25:15-17; and similar themes in Isaiah and without a doubt in other scriptures.

Again the end of this Psalm shows that only praising God is worthwhile (v. 9) and right wins out in the end. That is basically a big theme in all of scripture; the meek shall inherit the earth ( Matt. 5:5).

I pray you don't abandon your Mother in this time, that GOD help you to be with her. Matthew 25:31-46, Matthew 24:45, 1Timothy 5:8,

Hopefully these are helpful

Psalm 74

We see the theme here as in much of the Book of Lamentations where God appears to have cast His presence from His people. When we get to chapter 3; verse 31 He promises not to "cast them off forever." Isaiah 26:20 describes God Himself stating that He had turned away for a short time but would return with mercy. Again; the final prophetic application would appear to be in Revelation (or the time of Jacob's trouble in Jeremiah 30:7).

The "perpetual desolations" in verse 3 of this Psalm remind us of the "Abomination of Desolation" when the Temple is overtaken by Antichrist much as it was with Antiochus Epiphanes earlier in Daniel 9:25-27 and quoted by Christ starting in Matthew 24:15.

Verse 8 is as far as I know the only passage in scriptures mentioning the word synagogues; here they were being burned up by the enemy; likely prophetic of the Babylonians and of course the end times. Blasphemy as seen in Revelation 13 is mentioned in verse 18. The prophets being seen no more could refer ahead to the intertestamental times or again when there is vision sought in the end times by false prophets who predicted peace; peace when there is no peace ( Jeremiah 6:14).

Verse 20 implores God to "have respect unto the Covenant" as related; no doubt to the Promised Land. Once again the poor and needy are sought out as those who the Lord will restore; and the Psalm ends with a plea not to forget those enemies and their "tumult". Surely God will come soon; but will there be any faith on the earth when that Day comes? (See Luke 18:8).

Dear Jordy

A Christian grows closer and stronger to God by studying the Bible, praying, serving others, and always following the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

God does not give "rapture dreams," or dreams of the end times-- Matthew 24:36

"But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only."

10 His disciples say unto him, If the case of the man be so with his wife, it is not good to marry.

11 But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given.

12 For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it. -( Matthew 19: 10-12)

NOW concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman.

2 Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.

3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.

4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.

5 Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.

6 But I speak this by permission, and not of commandment.

7 For I would that all men were even as I myself. But every man hath his proper gift of God, one after this manner, and another after that.

8 I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I.

9 But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.

10 And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband:

11 But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife.

-( I Corinthians 7:1-17, but I ran out of room) Unless your son cannot contain his flesh, please cease from pressuring him esteemed brother or sister of the faith. He is able to focus. If he marries, and his wife beareth seed: Matthew 24:19!

Ok, I don't share that particular belief with you because of what the Bible says:

Hebrews 10:26 "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,"

Matthew 24:13 "But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved."

Hebrews 10:36 "For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise."

Gal 5:4 "ye are fallen from grace."

Matthew 10:22 "And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved."

"Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him." James 1:12 KJV

"Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory." 2 Timothy 2:10 KJV

Salvation is conditional upon following Christ. Those who hate or don't follow Christ aren't going to be saved, based on what the Bible says.

John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments."

Matthew 7:21-23

"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven."

I don't know how some can read these verses and twist them into meaning anything other than what they mean. This should be prayed about very deeply.

God bless.

Hi David,

God said this:

Matthew 12:32 "...but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come."

So, God clearly tells us we will NOT be forgiven if we commit this sin and what I hear you saying is that we WILL. Both are not true. One is false. I tend to believe what God says, not what man says. Because God already said if you blaspheme the Holy Ghost you will NOT be forgiven then that is the truth. That makes anything contrary to that false and in some cases a blatant lie.

But maybe people don't like that verse and want to discredit it. Well, here's another then:

Hebrews 10:26 "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,"

But I believe this misunderstanding has 2 dimensions. One is when we are "saved" and the other is "eternal security." The Bible doesn't say we're saved before we're judged. This is something Christians for years have been mentally "filling in the blanks" on but if you read carefully God never once said we will be instantly saved the second we believe. If you have a verse claiming that, please share it. But I can assure you for every verse you share, there's probably twice as many saying otherwise.

1 Peter 1:13 "...hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;"

"Hope" not, guarantee, but "hope." Grace "that is to be brought" future tense. It doesn't say now, or past tense.

1 Peter 1:5 - "...salvation ready to be revealed in the last time."

This refutes man's claims of being saved now and can go to adult clubs and do whatever they want. That's exactly what satan is trying to convince people of. Very clever deception.

1 Cor 9:24-27 "run the race", not the 'race was already won.'

Matthew 24:13 "But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved."

Hebrews 10:36.

Where is your evidence of the opposite of Gods words? God bless.

Hi Elizabeth Moon,

The reason why i tell people to Pray for understanding is because God has given to us Freely and Jesus said whoever reads let him understand

Matthew 24:15

And when you pointed that question i too would like to know the meaning but the best way to find the answer is to go back in our prayer closest and enquire from the author of the scripture.

Amen.

may the peace of God and our lord Jesus Christ be with you amen.

Pricilla...your comment is particularly significant in our day.

We are living at a most unique and propitious time in history, when the Bible's prophecies concerning the end times are coming to pass before our very eyes! Satan has been loosed to rule in the local congregations worldwide in accordance with 1 Peter 4:17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?

Christ gave a significant time clue in Matthew 24:32-33

32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:

33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

"these things" are happening today! Matthew 24:21-25

21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

25 Behold, I have told you before.

Satan comes as an angel of light, as the anti-Christ.

The fact that God's judgment has fallen on the churches and congregations worldwide means that the we must depart out of spiritual Babylon if we are to remain obedient to God's commandments.

Matthew 24:14-16

The environment in which God is saving today is OUTSIDE the churches; if there are God's elect within the churches, God will lead them out prior to the day of judgment.( Gen. 19 Isa. 3:7-9).

Jer 31:8-9 Eze 36:16-38

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Hello Jesse

My belief about that is (but I wouldn't bet my head on it).

I don't think that Jesus meant a specific number of years (40, 60, whatever) when He said about a generation. I believe a generation is a literal generation, I will explain. The signs described by Jesus start when a nation starts fighting another nation, a general war, a world war ( Matthew 24:7). Assuming that that is WW2 that started in 1939, then people who were born in that date are now 83 years old. A lot of people from that generation are still alive, and people can get even older than 100 or more (even more than 110) years old. So there is still time, but not that much. In that generation's time the 7 year period of antichrist is included as well, so actually we are running short of time fast. But as I said I wouldn't bet my life on that theory. GBU

Hi again RobL.

Sorry but I made a mistake in answering your question.

I gave you the rapture when your question was "How will our LORD God remove the evil this time which has more than likely repented(grieved) Him?"

The rapture is when Christ comes for his Church. as mentioned here in

1 Thessalonians 4:16-17. For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

We will be removed from the wrath.

The wrath of God comes upon all the Inhabitants of the Earth.

Isaiah 24:1-23.

Isaiah 34:1-17.

Zephaniah 1:14-18

Many other references.

NOTE: God's children is never called Inhabitants of the earth.

But we are not appointed to wrath.

1 Thessalonians 5:1-9.

Now as far as removal of evil, this will happen following the rapture and the 70th week of Daniel. "7 years tribulation period" with the last 3 and a half being the great tribulation.

Note: "There will be people getting saved during this period "

Satan will be chained a thousand years and Christ will rule here on earth with a rod of Iron sitting on David's Throne. This is the Millennium kingdom.

Then the devil will be loosed and deceive the Nations again.

Then comes the wrath of God and the removal of Evil as you asked.

This is what's mentioned in Matthew 13:36-43.

In Matthew 13:41 notice that the unrighteous is gathered. The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;

This Parallels with

Matthew 24:36-51.

These are taking away for judgment.

No removal of saints/Rapture here in these verses! It's the removal of the unrighteous.

The rapture It has already happened.

Sorry for all the confusion.

God bless.

Signs of the Rapture Part 4

Principle 3 (cont). I would say that there are verses showing validity of either argument (i.e. all believers are taken out at the Rapture) OR that some may be left behind whose garments are soiled as shown in Revelation 3:4 to be made purified. I have discussed this in more depth in my Revelation commentaries. We certainly do well to "test ourselves to see if we are in the faith" ( 2 Corinthians 13:5) in either event. Revelation 3:11 shows how we may forfeit our rewards at least; and 1 Corinthians 13:12-13 show how we may suffer loss if that happens. I would venture to say that the lack of discussion of the Bema Seat and a lackadaisical attitude in general to considering being in His Presence characterizes todays church in a large part. Naturally; with this attitude hearts become calloused ( Matthew 24:12); and we are also not urgent about fulfilling the Great Commission. The political correctness of today has infiltrated a church already defining doctrinal standards on a much broader road than the straight and narrow delineated by the scriptures. Such events were of course warned about by both Paul and Peter who agonized in prayer over what they knew would come after their demise ( Acts 20:29-31); 2 Peter 2:1).

In short; my point here is that none us should take for granted that we are saved without evidence of fruit; and none of us should rest on our laurels so to speak trusting that we will be raptured out of here. The same idea applies; we are free from our old nature but not free to imbibe once again in the world following our old sin nature. If the Kingdom of heaven isn't within our souls now it certainly won't be later. Whatever is the case with the Rapture itself there is certainly enough wisdom to go around to escape certain events beforehand that can be avoided if we are focusing on being seated in heavenly places ( Ephesians 2:6).

Signs of the times-the rapture.

There are certain principles that we do wise to adhere to in regard to this subject. I have discussed in other posts about the possible misinterpretation of the actual beginning of the final generation mentioned in Matthew 24:34. Obviously; if it is to be as the time of Noah or Lot as stated later on in the same chapter there need be no catastrophic event immediately preceding the event; and in fact it would seem that it is the opposite. It would seem that certain events if not the actual "birth pains" at present certainly could be foreshadows; however.

Principle One: In regard to the above statement; we do wise not to do any "date setting". It seems from scripture that a good argument can be made for a Feast of Trumpets for the Rapture; but I am not going to get into a dogmatic argument on that at present. There are certain things that should be examined; however. The state of the church today and many "falling away" ( 2 Thess. 2:3) should raise alarm bells. The danger of too much worldly comfort lulling us to sleep should be clear in the Laodicean church example; as well as all the other churches with right and wrong actions in the same book. We should heed lives such as that of Lot and Noah to notice their surroundings in much worldly wealth; carousing and carelessness. Sudden destruction come; of course when they are calling for Peace and Safety (security) in 1 Thessalonians 5:3; when of course according to other scriptures there is no peace ( Jeremiah 6:14). It appears that eventually after the Rapture after the covenant is confirmed in the 1st Seal that a "pseudo-peace" occurs; as "peace is taken from the earth" afterwards at the 2nd Seal ( Rev. 6:4). For there to be a final covenant "confirmed" in Daniel 9:27 there has to be a framework which has successes and builds up eventually to that level. Such is the basic groundwork laid out in the "Abraham Accords".

Regarding the 7 yr tribulation , Jesus said "For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened." ( Matthew 24:21,22) Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. The one who gets taken out of the way is this anti-christ here in 2 Thessalonians 2:7

Yes, we are living in what is written in the book of Matthew 24 and the book of Romans 1:23.

As Jesus said No one knows the day nor the hour. So keep watch by reading and walking with God day and night.

Please read both Books and let the peace of God and our lord Jesus Christ be with you Amen.

Matthew 24:36

"But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

No man knows the day or hour of the Lord's return. In the book of Revelation, we are reading about the prophecy of events pertaining to the seven-year tribulation which will happen after the church (Body of Christ) is raptured to be taken out of the way of God's judgment to come upon the earth. Things we are seeing today are happening on a global scale and are the beginning of the end as I see it. The focus would be on Israel for the Bible tells us about the times of the Gentiles coming to a close and God turning back to Israel to fulfill His promise to Abraham as a people of earthly inheritance. Israel did become a nation in 1948 and has flourished as a people returning back to their homeland and the land has blossomed as prophesied in the bible. All these signs are before us today and we can say we are in the generation to see the Lord as mentioned by Jesus in Matthew 24:34. My heart rest in the fact of what Jesus said to not let your heart be troubled for where He is there you will be ( John 14:1-3). Promise is; where I go, He goes, and I can rest in the fact that He will never leave me nor forsake me. So, as a Child of God greater is He that is within me than he that is in the world. We are not on the losing team so why worry about tomorrow when we have now and can look forward to our eternity with Christ. And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh (Luke21:28).

Richard,

I let the Bible define itself, simple, or risk compounding errors.

The last week (7 years) of 70 weeks is a 2,000 year old power prophesy between Christ and the man of sin (anti-christ).

Daniel 9:26-27 Jesus had the first 3.5 years of absolute power, and was cut off (crucified). At the sixth trumpet, when anti-christ strikes, he too will have 3.5 years of absolute power, between the sixth and seventh trumpets. In the "midst of the week" he will deliver the abomination of desolation to US NATO & Israel, 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4, falling away.

"the last half of the Tribulation lasting 1260 days is" = The GREAT tribulation, Matthew 24:15, the sixth trumpet strike on Israel (whole house).

There is no rapture, it's a lie. We are all appointed one death, Hebrews 9:27. Look what Ezekiel said about the day of the Lord deaths: Ezekiel 21:1-5. Verse 4: Both the righteous and the wicked die!!! What did Jesus say about it? Luke 17:34-37, He's asked where do the people go? He answers, 'wherever the body is, so will the vultures be'. They are part of the 2.6 billion dead, Revelation 9:18, from the GREAT tribulation. The 1st resurrection is at the seventh trumpet, NOT before.

Revelation 13. Who are the two beasts?

Alex1939...In Matthew 24:3-8...When they asked Jesus what shall be the sign of thy coming and the end of the world He replied Sorrows (Birth pains)...The Woman in Rev. 12. is in Birth pains....Which is a spiritual pregnancy...And the Woman is the best example of Faith...The very Kingdom of God comes for this Woman...Which is humanity...Rev.12:10....Now is come Salvation and the Kingdom of our God and the power of his Christ (the child) is the H.G....The Kingdom is the manchild the H.G. That is gona rule all nations with his rod of iron..the words of the book that has been opened...The new covenant...An intimacy a knowledge....He wants to know everybody...Its gonna cover the earth as the waters cover the seas.

And remember Bro. Paul speaks of the whole Creation in Travail n birth pains...becoming incorruptible simply we are all gonna be bornagain of an incorruptible seed.... Romans 8:21...ok gtg..Gbu...And this Woman keeps the commandments..b/c her child cannot sin....That new born babe desiring the sincere milk of the word is the H.G. that Paul speaks of is the Child of PROMISE..Our new innerman the H.G...The very gift of God.

Richard,

Between the fifth and sixth trumpets is tribulation. Between the sixth and seventh trumpets is the GREAT tribulation, as Jesus Christ called it himself, Mathew 24:21. We are on the heals of destruction (sixth trumpet), so that means looking back in recent history to pin point the fifth trumpet event, like 9/11/01, Revelation 9:1-11.

Do you know what occurs at the sixth trumpet, day of the Lord? The abomination of desolation, Matthew 24:15, is brought upon modern day Israel, and the world, setting forth the GREAT tribulation. The world will be a curse, Malachi 4:5-6.



We are currently in tribulation, at the tail end of the fifth trumpet, and in the midst of Revelation 17. America is pushing a $70 billion proxy war with Russia. The king of the south is facing the mighty Russian beast, whose Dec 25, 1991 deadly wound has healed into the king of the north, Daniel 11:40. It's Esau vs Jacob, leaving Jacob without root nor branch, Obadiah 1. It's also the beast and Babylon, making 3 allegories to confuse you for a lifetime if you can't make the connections.

We are literally waiting for the US/Israel to strike Iran (or the like), Revelation 6:14 sixth seal, and eventually bring about the sixth trumpet overthrow of the whole house of Israel. US NATO Israel receive their visitation.

You see, there is a big difference between tribulation and GREAT tribulation.

I just love the word of the Lord.

Hebrews 10:26 "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,"

Matthew 12:32 "...but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come."

James 2:14-26 "...faith, if it hath not works, is dead..."

Luke 12:5

John 14:15

James 2:14-26

Romans 6:1-2

Hebrews 6:4-6

1 Timothy 4:1

2 Peter 2:20-22

Matthew 12:31-32

1 Corinthians 15:2-8

Hebrews 3:12

Romans 11

The Bible answers this question quite clearly. Some are trying to use human logic through cherrypicking and misinterpreting a couple verses instead of simply believing God's truth through the whole Bible. Satan wants people to assume they have an insurance policy and license to commit unlimited sin and do whatever they want.

Does the Bible even say you're instantly "saved" when you start to believe, or does it say that you can have hope of salvation and assurance of salvation if you are a genuine follower until the "end" on the day of judgment? Let's see if the Bible says "now" or in the "end"...

Matthew 24:13

"But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved."

1 Peter 1:5

- "...salvation ready to be revealed in the last time."

1 Peter 1:13

"...hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;"

Hebrews 10:36

"For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise."

Where in the bible does it say about three and one half of good times/years, then followed by three and half of the worst times/years?

Part 2

The Bible mentions physical distructions like earthquakes etc. I used to think like you, they were always occuring in the world. But in the last decade we live in a climate crisis and extreme phenomena are occuring more and more often. Even in my country where those things were foreign, we now see them happening more and more often and get more severe, things that only in TV we used to see them happening in other parts of the world. And things get worse and worse every year.

The Bible says about the mark of the beast. That if someone doesn't have it on them they can not buy or sell. Could that happen in the past? No, it couldn't. If you had money or gold in your hands nobody could hinder you from buying or selling anything. But in a cashless economy this can not be done, and this is where humanity is heading to. Money is going to be just a number on a bank account paper or on your mobile's screen and if you do not get the mark then you will not have access to your e-money.

The Bible says about the last Kingdom on earth that will conquer all the world. Question. Could that happen in the past when all those new technology distruction weapons had not existed yet? All past empires were local, in a corner of the world. With swords and rifles one can not conquer the whole world. But with satelites and missiles and what else has and will be invented one can do it.

In the past nobody could check where somebody else is. Now they can know where you are, what you read, what your interests/hobbies are, what your beliefs are, what you look like, what you eat, who your friends are, everything about you. And I am wondering about all those people that say that they will escape the system of antichrist, going to mountains and desserts. Really? Everything will be under antichrist's control at that time.

The day of Christ, the rapture of the saints is close. In Matthew 24:34 it says that all those things will occur before that generation passes away, our generation I believe.

HI Ducan.

I agree the apostacy has already started.

However when Christ comes the second time he will come in judgement, He didn't come as the Holyghost as some suggest.

Matthew 24:15. hasn't happened yet.

"When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

Neither has Matthew 24:27-31.

For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.

Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. "The elect here I believe is Israel" Isaiah 45:4. Isaiah 11:12. Jeremiah 23:3. Psalms 107:2-3.

The Holyspirit was always in the world, but believers weren't baptized by the spirit until AFTER Christ was risen from the dead.

But the second coming of Christ reads like this.

"But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only."

Matthew 24:36-44.

There is some amongst us who believes there is no Hell and we all will be saved and become Gods!!

This is the climax of their theology.

GB.