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How to pray & how to endure through crisis = Luke 22:40, Matthew 6, Luke 11, Romans 8:26-39,

Psalms 139, (remember the guy that wrote that, had to live in caves for a time, while fleeing unjust persecution,) Jesus himself had to encourage himself knowing while everyone else would abandon Him, GOD would not. John 16:32,33,

Mark 14:38, Mark 11:13-26, Luke 21:36, Hebrews 13:3,5,6,

Luke 18, John 14:16,

2Timothy 2:3, 2Timothy 4:5, Matthew 24:13, Romans 8:18,

Hopefully these help you

Hi Mr. Bowman, you're asking about 2Thessalonians 2:3, it starts with 2Thessalonians 2:1-2, the coming of Lord,._. Please notice this is the 2nd letter to the Thessalonians, following up on the discussion in 1Thessalonians 4:13-18, also following the words of Jesus.

It seems the "great falling away" may be as Jesus explained with the seed, parable. When they face trouble, not rooted in good soil; Please look at Matthew 13:6,20,21, notice Jesus says we will go through "the great tribulation" Matthew 24:21,22,29, Matthew 24:30, in context please read both full chapters, also please look at : Revelation 6:9-11, if Jesus says endure to the end, Matthew 24:13, 2Peter 3:3-14, 1Peter 5:2-11, Hebrews 12:23-29, Hebrews 10:35-39, Colossians 1:23,

1Peter 1:2-9, Jude 1:24,

Hopefully this is helpful

Jesus loves each and every one of us, he died on the cross to set us all free from sin bondage he wants us all to make it to heaven with him and spend eternity with him, his will is not for us to perish out of this world because of disobedience of his words and instructions that he left here for us all to follow, but instead we are all guilty of being a slave to the sin nature which stems from a negative and evil nature that wars against GOD Almighty the devil himself we all have to be careful of, because he comes to cause us all to do the total opposite of our lord and saviors will for each and every one of our lives, i will continue to pray for all of our strength in christ Jesus, to save us all from going to hell with a devil that don't care about any one of our well being, may GOD keep and bless his children in Jesus name amen

Matthew 24: 3-14 how are the ones getting vax cold?

Thanks Giannis.

That's the way I have it as well.

On the Matthew 24:31-46 I think I was responding to Gigi.

Her quote;

By GiGi

The most consistent view in the church over the centuries was that the rapture happens on the Last Day, as Jesus said in Luke 21:27; Matthew 24:29-31. Even Daniel was told that he would arise on the Last Day in Daniel 12:13. This is why I believe that Jesus comes back only once again and will gather believers to Himself on the Last Day.

End quote.

My point was that Matthew 24 was not about the rapture.

Those taken away are gathered for judgment.

She's rapturing the wrong group!

Some say that the tribulation is a time of testing for God's people. Who and what is being tested? God's grip?

We must consider these verses. John 10:28-29.

I John 4:4.

Matthew 28:20.

John 14:18-20.

Ephesians 3:30.

Jude 1:24-25.

Philippians 1:6. Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it UNTIL THE DAY OF JESUS CHRIST:

So it's obvious God is not testing a spirit filled vessel.

TRIBULATION.

This is mentioned in Daniel 12 where a specific time period is mentioned and Jesus confirms it in Matthew 24:15-21. This tribulation is to come upon the whole world. This is not the persecution ( By the world ) promised to the Church in Matthew 5:10 and other places.

There's a huge difference between persecution by the world and tribulation ( UPON ) the world.

Millennium.

Where does Christ thousand years reign here on earth fit in their theology?

My reason for asking is they are split in this view.

If you say the rapture comes after the tribulation and you use Matthew 24 to authenticate that, When is the thousand years reign of Christ here on earth?

Why would you rapture people out of the Millennium?

Some hold the view the Millennium has already begun and the Church will usher in the Millennium by preaching the Gospel.

They say there is no rapture.

Continue this weekend.

God bless.

Pt 1

Hello Spencer

I think it was you who pointed out in an older post that Jesus' 2nd coming could not be the one described in Matthew 24:31-46 as many claim (since it seems to be a continuation of the revelation Jesus was telling to His disciples at the Temple). The reason is that there is a judgement and the righteous go to Heaven and the wicked to Hell. So who is going to inhabit the earth during the millenium? Good point. So that is not His 2nd coming but it is the Final Judgement after the millenium, the White Throne. If so ers him to appear. Time and date unknown. People are dealing with their everyday lifes as usually, unsuspected for what is coming to the worldthe rapture described in verses 36-44 can not be related to that Judgement whose time and date is known in contrast to the timehe rapture of the saints just before anticrist makes his appearance in the world. The presence of church on earth is what hinders him to appear. Time and date unknown. People are dealing with their everyday lifes as usually, unsuspected for what is coming to the world.

b. The 7 year period that antichrist rules on earth. Tribulation, cataclysmic events, mark of the beast, persecutions and slaughterings, salvation of Israel, etc etc. People are scared to death because of all those events and the ones yet to come. Life on earth becomes litterally a hell.

c. End of those 7 years. Jesus' 2nd coming with the church and His angels and those who were slaughtered during the great tribulation. Fight at Armaggedon. Distruction of antichrist's army.

d. Millenium, Christ and His church rule on earth on the people survived all those events. Satan is sent to the Bottomless Pit.

e. End of millenium. Satan is freed. People revolte against God and get distructed.

f. Resurrection of all people of all times. The Final Judgement/White Throne. The saints also will judge, even fallen angels.

g. New heavens and earth are created. God lives together with His people.

h. Even better things to come...

Brother Anthony:

We are all coming to the truth of God's word, God's doing and God's timetable.

Matthew 24

Christ is talking to his disciples about his coming again to them and the tribulation that must occur first, they didn't understand and most today don't understand.

Matthew 24:34 Verily I say unto you, this generation (those to whom he was speaking) shall not pass, till all the things BE FULFILLED.

Revelation explains this, if you take it as the Revelation of Jesus Christ, and not something in the future, the generation living at the time of Christ saw the wrath of God that was poured out on Christ and they saw Christ appearing the second time as the Holy Ghost.

We have been in the days of Noah since that great tribulation was poured out on Christ, and his coming the second time as the Holy Ghost.

Matthew 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken.

Revelation 12:4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and cast them to the earth .......

Revelation 6:12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, the was a great earthquake: and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon (Christ) became as blood;

Revelation 6:13 And the stars of heaven fell to earth .....

Luke 23:44 And it was about the sixth hour and there was darkness over the whole earth until the ninth hour,

Luke 23:45 And the sun was darkened ......

Matthew 27:54 .....saw the earthquake .......

Revelation 15:8 ....and no man was able to enter into the temple (you are the temple), till the seven plaques of the seven angels be fulfilled.

God Bless you.

As with anything else; Hebrews 9:27 makes a plausible argument; but it isn't worth quibbling about. The nature of the unique ministry is quite remarkable; as there will clearly and at long last be an undeniable "signs and wonders" ministry that will dwarf anything seen before. This will; of course involve a prophetic contest between the truth and a lie; with fire coming down; a mark or seal; and a Resurrection being mimicked by the Beast immediately after these witnesses have completed their misistry (although their ascension can be replicated).

I tend to emphasize the same concept as Christ preaching to the spirits of disobedience in hades. This is; along with likely the 144,000 primarily if not exclusively a DECLARATORY message of judgment rather than the Gospel as it stands today; since by the sixth seal ALL of mankind will know about God and Christ as well as the beginning of judgment. I would say this probably can be defined as the completion of the "Gospel of the Kingdom" ( Mark 1:14-15). The Gospel was said not to be given to all the cities of Israel before Messiah returns ( Matthew 24:14). There are certain verses about preaching to kings and having the Holy Spirit give the words which seem to be dual prophecies for the Apostles as well as the end time saints; as much of the generation that is described that will not pass until all these things come to pass seems to be describing later on in verse 34 of the same chapter.

It does seem that there is a lag time between the Rapture and the appearance of the 2 witnesses. Since certain judgments on the earth are held back before the 144,000 and likely the 2 witnesses coinciding with that time frame; it would seem that time is needed (they say 6 months or so) for the Temple to be constructed and for most of the seal judgments to transpire first.

That in my mind would also all ow the so called " Psalm 83" war to take out Israel's surrounding nations and their threats to come first before Ezekiel 38.

Lorraine just 1 more thing....When Jesus said one shall be taken and 1 shall be left.... Matthew 24:40....They replied where lord where then Jesus said where so ever the body is there will the eagles be gathered together....Its our bodies where the Tares and and the wheat live till the Harvest ...So the eagles are the reapers where our our lord said the eagles will be gathered to gether to destroy the Tares from our Bodies...As judgement must began at the house of God as our BODIES are his House...Abide in me and i in you...So the Kingdom of God is gona be within us....In our bodies etc...But the Tare will be there also...But the reapers are the eagles that will destroy the TARES FROM OUR BODIES...MAKING HIS HOUSE CLEAN....Judgement must began at the house of God our Bodies...ok lemme go

Lorraine just 1 more thing....When Jesus said one shall be taken and 1 shall be left.... Matthew 24:40....They replied where lord where then Jesus said where so ever the body is there will the eagles be gathered together....Its our bodies where the Tares and and the wheat live till the Harvest ...So the eagles are the reapers where our our lord said the eagles will be gathered to gether to destroy the Tares from our Bodies...As judgement must began at the house of God as our BODIES are his House...Abide in me and i in you...So the Kingdom of God is gona be within us....In our bodies etc...But the Tare will be there also...But the reapers are the eagles that will destroy the TARES FROM OUR BODIES...MAKING HIS HOUSE CLEAN....Judgement must began at the house of God our Bodies...ok lemme go

Matthew 24:34

Hi Anthony.

Part 2 of my previous reply.

I joined in on this thread without reading the original post. A mistake I made and something I rarely do.

I thought it was centered around Revelation 2 and 3. But after reviewing it during my last reply I realized it was a rebuttal to whoever uses these verses to pitch their

pre-trib view.

If I would have payed attention I would have never engaged.

However I've engaged and just about ready to disengage.

Before I go I would like to mention you said something to Brother Chris that puzzled me.

Your quote;

So, I believe that Christ's reassurance to the Philadelphian church was that He would keep them from succumbing to the temptation/trial which was to come.

Temptation/trial which was to come?

You put this trial in their present time.

But the phrase "WHICH WAS TO COME" puts this future.

It makes no sense if the phrase is used if he's talking about a Temptation/trial that always existed.

Look what Jesus says about this temptation when answering his disciples.

Let's pick up the context here in Matthew 24:3

"And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, WHEN shall these things be? AND WHAT SHALL BE THE SIGN OF THY COMING, AND OF THE END OF THE WORLD?"

( Three questions)

My focus is on the "when" and the description of this time period.

For lack of character space click on the link.

Matthew 24:14-20

Matthew 24:21 "FOR THEN SHALL BE GREAT TRIBULATION, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

Matthew 24:22-28

Matthew 24:29. IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE TRIBULATION OF THOSE DAYS shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

Matthew 24:30.

Revelation 3:10 says he would keep them from THE HOUR. ( That time )

Revelation 3:11 Parallels with the answers given in Matthew 24:29-30.

God bless.

However there is other scripture to encourage that GOD is able to deliver: 2Peter 2:5-9, we are to be good soldiers, endure: 2Timothy 2:3, 2Timothy 4:5, 1Peter 2:19, Matthew 24:13, Mark 13:13,

Matthew 24, Mark 13, Jesus explains specifically it's after the great tribulation He will gather together His elect.

Revelation 6:9-11, Revelation 2:11, Hebrews 11,

GOD's WORD is called a living word by many because of it's HIS amazing ability to be relevant today, prophetic & historical

Psalms 22, for example, Psalms 41:9 King David being betrayed by Saul, yet predicting Jesus' betrayer

I see Revelation significant for today & more than simple coincidence when Philadelphia is researched online only USA references are found, being the only significant Philadelphia in our time, the the very foundation of an otherwise unmentioned World Power was founded on "in GOD We TRUST" in Philadelphia, where both our Declaration of Independence, The US Constitution were signed & US Mint prints faithfully those very words upon all currency. Revelation 3:8, The Liberty bell that has inscription about the Biblical Jubilee, Leviticus 25:10, also remains today ironically cracked._._. Philadelphia also the proposed Capital of USA, still debated today of the legitimacy of the meeting that decided a different venue. Song today trendy "The room where it happenes" Revelation 3:7-13, 2020 2nd largest Jewish population in the World is USA, Many claims of Jewish heritage in movie, banking, business, judiciary yet deny GOD's laws & justice ect.

Revelation Philadelphia, very interesting to me.

Jesus speaking in context : Mark 10:13-31, notice he started with the little children that were being pushed aside._.. Notice too he says many not all. Luke 18:17, Mark 10:15,

Giannis says Israel, that seems very contradictory to the WORD: Romans 11, whole chapter. Notice, Luke 13:22-35, note Luke 13:27, iniquity, Matthew 7, Matthew 25:31-46, Isaiah 48:12, Matthew 24:48-51,

Matthew 20:1-16, again arrogance & expecting more reward than another? Again if you go back a little in context Jesus is telling them don't forbid the children to come to Him. Matthew 19:14, continued the same event follows. Matthew 19:14-30, so Matthew 20, is repeating the teaching of 1st, & last; meekness, in another perspective same teaching. Matthew 10:22,24,25,42, Matthew 10:5-42, Mark 9:35, Mark 10:44, Matthew 20:27, Matthew 18:3,4,5,

Hopefully these are helpful

Matthew 12:32 "...but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come."

Matthew 7:21-23

"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven."

Hebrews 10:26 "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,"

James 2:14-26 "...faith, if it hath not works, is dead..."

James 2:19 "Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble."

1 Peter 1:13 "...hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;"

John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments."

1 Peter 1:5 - "...salvation ready to be revealed in the last time."

Jude 1:4 "For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ."

Hebrews 10:36 "For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise."

"Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him." James 1:12

"Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory." 2 Timothy 2:10

Joshua 24:15 "choose you this day whom ye will serve"

2 Corinthians 5:10 - For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.

"And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved." Matthew 10:22

"But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved." Matthew 24:13

"And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved." Mark 13:13 KJV

Not sure if my commentary on that chapter helps. It is simply those who are martyred at that time; they don't yet have physical bodies to stand on the sea of glass; but they remain until all the martyrs designated to die in that way join them. God has a set order for the Resurrection; and the firstfruits raptured into heaven. Generally; it appears that the church comes next followed by the 144,000 being translated around the midpoint of the Tribulation and the rest of the saints risen sometime right before or around the second coming of Christ. This can be a trickly subject as to precise timing.

I would certainly think that the Hebrews 11 cloud of witnesses include those who are already present spiritually with the Lord (to be absent from the body is present with the Lord). ( 2 Cor. 5:6). Spirits of just men ( Heb. 12:23) made perfect is another example.

I try to give as much scriptural base as possible to comments; rather than wild speculation. Still; there is something to be said to waiting on the Lord to reveal what He will about the Book of Revelation. These days will see a closer parallel between those who are on the side of the enemy with those who are of the Lord so that even the elect would be deceived IF IT WERE POSSIBLE ( Matt. 24:24). Again; as my commentary mentioned by the sixth seal there will be no more atheists. The wrath of God and of His Son will be known but it won't do men who are unregenerate any good. I only say this out of necessity; if the Lord wants to show you these things; it will be for the edification of the sleeping church; to wake them up. The truth won't win any popularity contests unlike today's endless "prophets" who want people to believe the party will keep going on. May you be as Jeremiah with "fire in his bones" ( Jeremiah 20:9). There are a few fearlessly proclaiming the Gospel in LOVE; but also in TRUTH. I believe some roles for women are different from men; He will reveal this to you in His time.

John 14:6 kjv, Psalm 12:6-7 kjv, Psalm 119:140 kjv, John 1:1-3,14 kjv,

John 6:63 kjv, Isaiah 40:8 kjv, Matthew 24:35 kjv, Revelation 19:11-16 kjv,

1 Peter 1:23 kjv, John 8:58 kjv.

God bless you Brenda. In Jesus name.And

Please explain what it means about the soul of the saints in heaven "under the alter".

Jesus brought and taught the homeless ministry. The ministry whereby those chosen by God

would give up all and give to the poor and go out penniless in twos as Jesus taught.

Two women together --- two men together. Go out and preach this gospel to all the world.

All will have an opportunity to hear the original Gospel taught by Jesus. Pray to be awake

spiritually when your own opportunity presents itself.

Hi Gigi.

Part 4.

In Revelation 19:17-21 you see the parallel verse " Where the eagles gather as mentioned in

Matthew 24:28.

No mention of the removal of saints. If the saints were raptured and everyone else cast into hell and this is the last day on earth as you presented Who's going to populate the Millennium?

In Revelation 20 you see the Millennium reign of Christ and the great white throne judgment.

Let's use Daniel 12:13 you provided to see who the elect is in these scriptures.

Daniel 12:1-2 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for THE CHILDREN OF THY PEOPLE: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time THY PEOPLE shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

Who's Daniels people? Israel.

Who's gathered from the four corners of the earth? Israel.

Isaiah 11:9-12.

Ezekiel 34:11-14.

Daniel is not talking about the Church.

The tribulation will drive Israel to their Messiah.

Hosea 5:15. I will go and return to my place, TILL THEY ACKNOWLEDGE THEIR OFFENCE, AND SEEK MY FACE: IN THEIR AFFLICTION THEY WILL SEEK ME EARLY.

Matthew 23:37-39 (KJV) O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!

Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.

For I say unto you, YE SHALL NOT SEE ME HENCEFORTH, TILL YE SHALL SAY, BLESSED IS HE THAT COMETH IN THE NAME OF THE LORD.

This means when they behold him as a nation.

God bless.

Hi Gigi.

Part 3.

Again I'm not saying this researching is bad but when you build your theology off historical research you will find that there is arguments for both sides and often for several sides on every topic.

It's not the way we're prompted to study the Bible.

There's a danger you will fall in the hands of doctrines of men and traditions.

There is more to teaching the Bible than reading scripture and giving a perspective that you adopted from researching history throughout the church age because it don't cause you to understand scripture!!

It hinders spiritual growth and causes one to have a carnal approach in their display of doctrine and misuse of scripture no matter how long they study this way.

When or if one research history for "whatever" concerning doctrine, revelation of truth is always given by the Holyspirit not by the scribe.

So be sure and use convincing scriptures when you go into a debate or rebuttal saying ones view is not supported by scripture.

This is not about whether you are right or wrong because even when you are right about a matter you authenticate it by what you "believe" was taught by the early church as your reasoning. That doesn't always seal the deal when your explanation and rebuttal doesn't go into debth using scripture. It's just argumentive.

With that being said let's look into the scriptures you provided supporting the rapture coming at the second coming.

Luke 21:27.

Matthew 24:29-31.

Daniel 12:13.

When dealing with Luke and Matthew "Notice who's being removed" In Matthew 24:37-39 it says "as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be."

Who's eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

AND KNEW NOT UNTIL THE FLOOD CAME, AND TOOK THEM ALL AWAY?

This speaks of judgment, it's not the rapture of the Church.

This contradicts

1 Thessalonians 5:2-9.

see part 4.

Hi Gigi

Part 1.

You stated.

Hello Patrick, What you are identifying is "dispensationalism", and yes, IT HAS NOT BEEN TAUGHT THROUGHOUT CHURCH HISTORY. (You can search ONLINE) on the subject. You can find on the site testallthingsDOTcom articles concerning this viewpoint that introduced the pre-tribulation rapture into Christian thought in the 1800's by Irwin and Darby in Ireland. Irwin learned of it from the writings of a Jesuit priest from Spain.

Then you stated on a separate post.

IT IS TRUE THAT THERE WERE SOME IN THE EARLY CHURCH WHO BELIEVED IN A PRE-TRIBULATION RAPTURE.

The most consistent view in the church over the centuries was that the rapture happens on the Last Day,

( You seem to contradict yourself in your rebuttal.)

Then you went on to say;

" as Jesus said in Luke 21:27; Matthew 24:29-31. Even Daniel was told that he would arise on the Last Day in Daniel 12:13." Let's set that aside for now.

I believe scripture supports this and the early Church taught this throughout history; "as you seem to acknowledge to some degree."

Where part of the issue is during the reformation their wasn't much focus on eschatology. Their focus was on Justification. "And by the way they done a great job on that,"

But some accused the jews for the crucifixion even though Christ said for this purpose he came into the world.

Here's the issue.

There's some value in areas to research what the church believed throughout the centuries but when you leave off from studying the Bible and you use history to settle a debate you don't fall on solid ground.

That may work in our academic school system on history but not so well when studying the Bible, Especially when you have the same bible they had in your midst and the Holyspirit doing the teaching.

This method doesn't qualify one as a teacher but an historian.

Martin Luther protested for Justification by faith in the early 1500's. before then what was widely taught? Is it good to hold those diverse views?

c part 2.

Chris,

It is true that there were some in the early church who believed in a pre-tribulation rapture. The most consistent view in the church over the centuries was that the rapture happens on the Last Day, as Jesus said in Luke 21:27; Matthew 24:29-31. Even Daniel was told that he would arise on the Last Day in Daniel 12:13. This is why I believe that Jesus comes back only once again and will gather believers to Himself on the Last Day.

Polycarp and Irenaeus may have spoken in regards to a pre-trib rapture, but the modern view in dispensationalism as promoted by Darby and Scofield are not identical to what Polycarp and Irenaeus taught. The interpretation of Darby is what is promoted and believed by many believers today. His theory began in the 1800's.

Hello, are you referring to verses 1 Thessalonians 4:17 and Matthew 24:41 that say people will be taken or caught up in the air when Jesus returns?

I surely believe what God's word says over what a man says, regardless of how convinced he is. I've studied the Bible all my life and have never heard of this idea of 1830s something being invented; there is no truth to that whatsoever.

Rest of Revelation 19

The rest of the book discusses the return of Christ with His saints; and the capture of the Beast; False Prophet and Satan (without stating who places them in their respective places of punishment although the next chapters show an angel has sealed the bottomless pit).

There is a feast prepared for the birds of the air (v. 17-18; v. 21). God has in Isaiah 34:11 and other verses clearly considered the unclean beasts and provided for them richly (despite being unfit for man's consumption). Those who are animal lovers may not appreciate the fact that they will either be present at the wedding feast of the Lamb or themselves be part of the supper of wild beasts. No doubt these creatures will be starving themselves by this time and God isn't going to let a good meal go to waste. We should ponder this; those who are evolutionists and realize that in light of Ecclesiastes 3:19 that unregenerate men are no better than animals as to our fate. The soul of animals may go down into the earth (see verse 21 two verses later); but man is the only creature subject to eternal damnation and suffering as we see again in the same chapter; verse 11 where "eternity is put in their hearts."

The last verse in this chapter; verse 21 shows the rest of man in the battle slain with the sword (see Malachi 4:1; Psalm 2; etal). They will be placed in Sheol; the "holding place" for the damned until their turn for the lake of fire. Undoubtably their involvement in this battle and enticement by demons means that they have taken the mark of the Beast. If for some reason someone is missing arms and or has a head injury and can't take the mark the image will be worshipped which basically amounts to the same punishment.

In God's Providence He shortens the days or no flesh would survive (or be saved); see Matthew 24:22. There are interesting studies as to the mention of horses (verse 18) which also are seen in Ezekiel 38. I prefer to take that literally.

Perhaps the questions arise because of teachings not actually in scripture.

John 17, Please read whole chapter, Isaiah 11:1,2, John 3:16, Matthew 10:32,33,

Ephesians 4:30, Luke 11:13, Ephesians 1:1-13, Ephesians 1:17-23, Matthew 24:35,36,

John 14:26, John 16:7,

Hopefully these are helpful

Mark 8:22

If your referring to New Jerusalem Revelation 21,

But it's not a day nor hour we, nor the angels know Matthew 24:34-36,

Hopefully this is helpful

Marisa,

It is a great comfort knowing that Jesus is with us and on our side of what lies ahead for mankind. We can rest in His power and care for us. This does not mean that we will not have trials nor persecution. He has stated that such will come our way. But we can be assured that He will bring us into the life to come where we will be eternally safe, blessed, and loved by the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. How good it is to be saved! How gracious is our God to bend low to rescue us from sin and evil. How merciful is our God to forgive us our sins and give us eternal life instead of eternal death!

God bless you today, Marisa. It is good to hear from you on this forum.

I really love this chapter because it really talks about the coming of our Lord and Savior and what is to come on this planet Earth. Let us trust in the lord at all time the lord is with us every step of the way if we believe. Amen God bless

No, the object is to be covered with Jesus Christ for He is the Head of Man

1 Corinthians 11:1 Become ye imitators of me, even as I also am of Christ.

2 Now I praise you, brethren, that ye remember me in all things(teachings of Christ), and hold fast the traditions, as I delivered them to you.

3 But I desire that you should know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the wife is the husband; and the head of Christ is God.

Keep nothing but Christ over your Head, upon the Head.

Many were not covered, and not holding fast the traditions of Jesus in the days of Noah whereby they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage unto the fallen angels Matthew 24:38