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Matthew 24:26-28 states that where the carcasses are the eagles (or similar birds of prey) are gathered. This would indeed; make it seem that those taken were taken for judgment and in Revelation about half are taken out that are listed in the one fourth dying in the first four seals; and another third in the Trumpet judgments. We can look at the tale of the ten virgins in a similar light. It would seem indicative of this being representative of God's church as they were all "virgins"; but clearly those who Christ stated "I know you not" or "I never knew you depart from me you workers of iniquity" ( Matt. 7:23) never were believers. There are difficult passages which could just be allegorical warnings; as well as different scenarios (such as that of the servant who hid his talent); in Luke 19 and lost his reward; contrasted with the version in Matthew 25 where he was "cast into outer darkness" which sounds like hell; but it could be into the Tribulation as well! The virgins who went out to buy oil seems to be at least a possible hint that in order to have more "oil of the Spirit" they had to buy gold refined in the fire such as in Revelation 3:18 which again COULD represent works through the "fires" of the Tribulation.

Basically; these are eschatological issues. What we can b certain of is that FAR less than half of ANY population will be raptured.

Even if we take at face value the Rapture as a salvation and not a reward issue; Christ made it clear that FEW are saved. There is always a believing remnant among those confessing faith; in the O.T. as well as the New. Thus; the passage in question sounds more like God taking half out for judgment; but even that is in question as only FEW will live through the whole event (one third of Israel ( Zech 13:7-9). and those of the Gentiles will be rarer than the "gold of Ophir" ( Isaiah 13:12 on how few remain in the Day of the Lord). This verse could speak of Israel's casualties, SPECIFICALLY.

Agape; RP

2 Timothy 2:15 is a powerful verse. If we do not learn how to rightly divide the word of truth, we will be lost understanding the chain of events from the time God brought the Hebrews from the Land of Egypt until The Christ Lord Jesus died on the cross up to our time today which is approximately 2,000 years. Honestly, we do not have time. As you all noticed the rapid days go by quickly as God says 2 Peter 3:8 and you see Psalms 2:1-12

I do not mind repeating to all that the Bible is a complete book Revelation 19:13 for us today to prepare ourselves and others. I pray all to be saved. We cannot have the people caught unaware of Matthew 24:37. To rightly divide is to know for us today what we need to do. So I will say that the 11 apostles messages are important for the physical Jews Matthew 10:5-7 at the end time; and there are verses in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John that pertains to a spiritual Christians of today.

God had chosen Paul to be His vessel so we can read and believe not in vain. Study the Book of Romans to Philemon because he was the Last and believe it or not the 12th Apostle Galatians 1:1, Acts 9:15, Acts 13:47, Acts 22:21, Roman's 11:13, Ephesians 3:8, 1 Timothy 2:7, Galatians 1:16. After Jesus died He says Hebrews 9:14-17. Then you are Ephesians 1:12-14, 2 Timothy 2:19 and 2 Corinthians 1:22. Therefore, 1 Corinthians 9:2 just like Romans 15:28. Ephesians 4:30 and sing Psalms 49:8, 111:9, 130:7. In conclusion my fellow-believers, Paul is sealed 1 Corinthians 9:2 by God to be our apostle today. Weneedtoputtheworkof Paul not in vain Galatians 6:11. Paul tells us Romans 2:16, Romans 16:25, 2 Timothy 2:8. And the gospel is 1 Corinthians 15:1-4. Then we are sealed Ephesians 1:13. Perhaps you are not understanding me because Revelation 18:4, Proverbs 20:1, Roman's 7:11, 1 Corinthians 6:9, 1 Corinthians 15:33, Galatians 6:7, 1 Timothy 2:14, 2 Timothy 3:13, Titus 3:3, and lastly Revelation 18:23. Psalm 37:1-40 then we meditate Psalms 27:1-3. Shalom/Agape.

"knows no man" ( Mt. 24:36) =

There are some precise specifics GOD has not revealed.

(1) We must learn (v.32a), and know (v.32b; 33b) that CHRIST will return.

(2) GOD The FATHER simply has not revealed the precise time CHRIST will return. This unknown prohibits man's tendency to calculate and predict the exact time JESUS CHRIST will return.

(3) This unknown must prompt Christians' motivation to perpetually watch and always prepare for that event. Compare Mark 13:33:

"But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in Heaven, neither The SON, but The FATHER."

Notice Mark's interesting addition of the expression "neither The SON", which is unique to Mark. Does this contradict the Doctrine of JESUS' DIVINE Attribute of Omniscience? Not so. Although "equal with GOD" ( Php. 2:6), LORD JESUS' humanity, particularly "of no reputation, [in] the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men" ( Php. 2:7), appeared to restrict HIM somewhat by design. GOD never tires, sleeps, hungers, thirsts, or suffers as man does, yet JESUS CHRIST endured all these human experiences.

CHRIST's humanity seemed to limit HIS Attributes of DEITY to some degree. Otherwise, why would Doctor Luke proclaim,

"JESUS increased in Wisdom and Stature, and in Favor with GOD and man" (Lu. 2:52).

Does this "increasing" suggest GOD The FATHER temporarily limited HIS SON's Omniscience to some degree while in HIS humanity? Was The SON OF MAN oblivious to the storm while asleep in the boat during the storm ( Mt. 8:24; Mk. 4:38; Lu. 8:23)?

Evidently, the knowledge of "that Day and Hour" when LORD JESUS CHRIST will come again is limited solely to "MY FATHER only" (v.36), for as LORD JESUS proclaimed in another context, certain things was "not mine to give, but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of MY FATHER" ( Mt. 20:23).

Hello, i dont know the answer to your question, but just caution to watch out for anyone sharing opinions without ant scripture to back it up. Matthew 24:6 says there will be wars. God is love but satan is evil and ppl will do evil things. God will only tolerate this up to a point.

The destruction of the first Temple is recorded in 2 Kings 25:8,9: "And in the fifth month, on the seventh day of the month, which is the nineteenth year of king Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon, came Nebuzaradan, captain of the guard, a servant of the king of Babylon, unto Jerusalem: And he burnt the house of the LORD, and the king's house, and all the houses of Jerusalem, and every great man's house burnt he with fire."

Then we have the Temple re-built, with the full account in Ezra chapters 1 to 6. And this temple remained intact until it was razed again in AD 70. The prophet Daniel wrote on this ( Daniel 9:24-27) & Jesus spoke of it also ( Matthew 24:1,2). Of course, history also records this as occurring.

Do you have other information on the frequency of the temple's destruction?

2 Peter 3:1-18. I am so glad Peter endorsed the hard to understand Paul's epistles. Everything tied together with God. Glory and honor to God Almighty and the Lord Jesus Christ. We pray and hoping to save as many people. God gave us Paul to know the how to"s in these last days. Sadly, we still see a lot of lost people.

And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness. But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.

Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord, 2 Peter 1:2

Save your family first by being a good example. We will continue to pray for all.

Hello Luke:

That is a great point you made. Thank you.

You also have my son's name and talk track belief.

Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord, 2 Peter 1:2

Dear "Fannie Cross-Sullivan", in peace. We learn it because we must have hope. Our hope is that Jesus Christ, who conquered death, we will also go there. Where Jesus are. We shall not see death.

If you imagine a person who is sick, for example, and is about to die. As we say here on earth. This person belive in Jesus Christ and has repented from a destructive life, to faith in Jesus Christ. If Iinow immediately give you a different picture of death, but then without God. Can you see the difference here? We humans are a detriment to ourselves, we have been from the very beginning. Now it has become worse.

So God the Father Himself had to change everything when He make Heaven and earth, because of man. Remember He repented of it. Genesis 6:6

The day you are referring to will be a terrible day, everyone should know what a fire can do.

This is how it is that we believe in God the Father and in His Son Jesus Christ, then our life will be filled with hope for Life itself. We shall live even if we lay down our mortal body. Matthew 24:35 The best example is found in John 20:1-10 and the story of Lazarus when Jesus raises Him from the dead after he had lain dead for several days. John 11

The day that will come when the firmament and the mountains will crumble. When God will put everything in order again, this time there will be no regrets, but Perfection. That is what Christ Jesus did. But as we know, everything takes time.

Ecclesiastes 3:1-8 Jesus does not wish us harm, He loved us with divine love. believe in Him for your own sake. Fear is cast out when you are with Jesus Christ. Only love will keep you alive that day. God's Word and faith in Jesus. Hebrew 4:12-13 But we stick to Jesus. He fills us with peace, so that we all survive the day. I belive that from the bottom of my heart.

Hope this help u, remember to always go to Jesus if u have a problem, He will sort everything out for u in His time, Amen. Jesus loves u i love u in Christ

Let me greet with ' for GOD the creator, love the world that he gave his only begotten son.and prophesied in matt24. Take note in Ezekiel 43:7 GOD said that Israel will be cursed out of Jerusalem and that is also the time when GOD is building the 2nd temple,

In Matt24:2 I say unto you there shall not be left one stone iIN 70 Ad Romans destroyed and killed all the Jews and Israel of the and they placed the fake Jews to take their place to hide the atrocities done and Jerusalem was destroyed and desolate.True religion was lost and world followed the Roman Catholic church 5. Then war ww1 and2:7-9 present day 10-14 great tribulation 15-30

31 arrival of Jesus

@daniel you wrote:

"There isn't one verse in the entire Bible which indicates that the Church will go through the Tribulation period"

Have you given consideration to Matthew 24:22 ?

And after you do consider that precedes Matthew 24:29 "Immediately after the tribulation of those days..."

Mark 13:20 reads the same

Anytime the four winds are mentioned in the Bible it is referring to "The Great Tribulation" The Time of Jacobs Trouble.

Revelation 7:1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

Matthew is prophesying how God Gathers His Elect (together) out of the great tribulation for the sign of the 2nd coming is near Christ is near.

Then we are told to learn the parable of the fig tree in v32

Now learn the parable of the fig tree; When its branch shall have become already tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye get to know that summer is nigh: (Christ's return is near)

God uses the life cycle of the fig tree to give us an indication of when to expect the coming of the 2nd advent.

Hey Mark GBU... Lemme give ya my understanding on the 4 winds its simply all the world....North South East AND WEST....Jesus said the Wind is symbolic of his spirit his words that cannot be seen but only heard...

...... Joel 2:28 I will pour out of my SPIRIT ( the wind of God ) on all flesh....And your sons and daughters shall prophesy....All flesh is all the world North South East and West....And his spirit is the wind of God to all parts of the world

......On the day of Pentacost that mighty rushing wind was blowing on folks from every nation all the world which was the H.G.....Which was the Promise of his Father....Baptism of the H.G....Behold the Promise of my Father...which was that mighty rushing WIND that filled the house...He makes his son to shine to the good and the bad...and his rain to fall on all the world.

And the 4 gospels are filled with the Blood of the lamb the Cross and his words and he says my words are spirit and life....The wind of God which is the H.G. GODS ELECT.

......And he breathe on them and they received the H.G. His breath was the wind of God....Just as God breathe the breath of life in humanity.

......We were all born by the will of some man.... its only the H.G. that Child of Promise that is born by the will of God in us....Thus its only the H.G. that is the Child of PROMISE THE ELECT.....Which is our new heart and new spirit the mind of Christ.. Romans 9 :8-17 kjv

Jeremiah 49:36

And upon Elam will I bring the four winds from the four quarters of heaven, and will scatter them toward all those winds; and there shall be no nation whither the outcasts of Elam shall not come.

Revelation 7:1

And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

Zechariah 2:6

Ho, ho, come forth, and flee from the land of the north, saith the LORD: for I have spread you abroad as the four winds of the heaven, saith the LORD.

Matthew 24:31

And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Mark 13:27

And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.

In Job 1 we see that Satan can cause destructive winds that kill people, animals and communities.

Also that God owns the storehouses of Rain, Snow and Hail.

Thanks Jesse, that helps me!

The bible uses the four winds to represent the totality of the wind (created in Gen. 3) from the four corners of the firmament of heaven above the earth. It was written by the Lord's prophets in this manner because at the time of the book's writing everyone still viewed the Earth as flat, and therefore would not yet comprehend the wind as being the result of a spinning globe and the shifting weather conditions caused by varying exposure to the sun constantly. The scripture was written this way so our understanding of the Word remained logical and infallible, even as our knowledge and understanding of science grew. What a glorious book the Bible is, the more you immerse yourself in it; the more wonderful it becomes as you notice all the tiny details that have made it an enduring book of hope and joy for all generations.

Mark,

Matthew 24:31 tells us that when He does come, He shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet.



I'll share some technical points with you just to show you how good this passage is:



He is going to send His angels out with a great sound of a Shofar. It's a ram's horn.



In the Greek text, the word "sound" is in brackets, which means it has been added to the text by some unseen person who doesn't understand the fact that the word "great" modifies the trumpet. It is called a great Shofar.



The prophecy is found in Isaiah 27:12-13.



It says the great Shofar will blow, and the Lord will gather His people from the four corners of the earth. So that is very important because that's a prophecy that the Jews looked for.



It says He is going to gather them together, his elect, and that would be the Jews, from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other, north, south, east, and west.

Matthew 24,

North, South East & West, examples: Ezekiel 37:9, Revelation 7:1, Job 37:9,

East Wind; Genesis 41:6,23,27, Exodus 10:13, Exodus 14:21, Psalms 48:7, Isaiah 27:8, Jeremiah 18:17, Ezekiel 17:10, Ezekiel 19:12, Hosea 13:15,

West Wind; Exodus 10:19,

North Wind; Proverbs 25:23,

South Wind, Job 37:17, Luke 12:55, Acts 27:13,

Psalms 78:26, Ecclesiastes 1:6, Jeremiah 10:13, Jeremiah 51:16, Amos 4:13,

Interestingly in Michigan the Northern winds blow, it feels like bitter coldness inside, freezing your nose inside like icicles, even through your clothing layers. In Southern California when the " Santa Ana winds" dry & hot, dusty, both very district & unpleasant. The winds that blow East from the Pacific Ocean even summertime bring cool, unpleasant chills as early evening approaches. Etc. (In some personal observation of distinct winds.)

Hopefully these are helpful

Mark It is a figure of speach for all different directions i.e. south north east west encompassing all earth.

From Verse 31;

And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

What is the four (4) Winds Christ was talking about?

Just as in the days of Noah,,, who was taken? and who was left?

Noah's flood was literal,,, the coming flood will be a flood of lies, and deception.

38 For just as in the days that were before the flood they

were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage,

until the day that Noah entered into the ark,

39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all

away; so will also the coming of the Son of man be.

40 Then will two be in the field; the one is taken, and

the other left.

Yes.

2 Corinthians 11:13

For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.

Mark 13:22

For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.

Matthew 24:24

For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

2 Peter 2:1

But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

Luke 6:13

And when it was day, he (Jesus) called unto him his disciples: and of them he chose twelve, whom also he named apostles;

2 Peter 2:1 - But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

Glenda the 2 in the field and the 2 men in 1 bed is just 1 person that has heard his words the seeds of the sower...But satan has sowed another seed in HIS heart....Thus he becomes 2 ppl....The wheat and the tares make us 2 ppl spiritually speaking....But Jesus said the tare will be gathered in bundles and burned.....But the wheat into my barn his kingdom....Thats y Paul was saying with my mind i serve the law of God but with my flesh..( the tare ) the law of sin....When i wd do good evil ( the tare ) is present with me O Wretched man that i am....I see another law in my members ( the tare ) waring against me....If i do something i donot consent unto..( the tare ) it is no more I that does it but sin that dwells in y members.. the tare SATAN....Paul was involved in a war with satan b/c of the tare.....Thats the way salvation is,.. its a war with satan....Jesus had sowed a good seed in Paul, a kingdom seed but the devil wd not let it stand thus he sows a tare in Paul trying to destroy him....Same thing with the 2 woman grinding at the mill is just 1 woman....That is involved in war with satan the tare against the wheat....Jesus said to let them grow together till the time of harvest.....Then i will say to the reapers gather the tares in bundles and burn them....But gather the wheat into my barn..the Kingdom.....We war in the Spirit in hy places etc....John said he saw war in heaven impling in the spirit....We walk in the flesh but we war in the spirit...2 nd Cor. 10:3 kjv

Hi Glenda.

I concur with Brother Jesse, and I believe the previous verses verify that as well.

Matthew 24:37-39.

"But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

AND KNEW NOT UNTIL THE FLOOD CAME, AND TOOK THEM ALL AWAY; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

No one left but Noah and his family!

God bless.

Glenda,

People have wondered about this, and there are different views about two in the field, one is taken, one is left. Where does the one go that is taken? We know where the one that is left is, but what about the one that is taken? Some say it's taken into judgment. Some say it's for salvation, a person is taken saved. Some say it's one of these gatherings, the Lord gathering His people from the four corners of the earth.

But in Luke's account, Luke 17:37, it tells us that they are taken into judgment. They are drawn into the Valley of Megiddo for the battle of Armageddon. As you go through Revelation, you will see that God is the one that draws the people and the armies into the valley of Megiddo to fight against Him when He comes. So Luke 17:37 tells us that they are taken for judgment.

Matthew 24:40-42 Is this speaking of rapture or second coming?

The medical term is called " hematohidrosis " extreme levels of stress, can cause it. " There are multiple blood veins netted around the sweat glands, in net formation, that constrict under the pressure of great stress" "fear and intense mental contemplation are the most frequent causes" recorded under National Library of Medicine, .gov

It can & did occur. Luke 22:44, "sweat as it were great drops of blood"

Let's look into Jesus' stress._._ he had known people were plotting to kill him, Matthew 17:22-23, Matthew 21:38, Mark 9:31, Luke 20:14, Luke 22:2, Jesus knew it was the religious hypocrites that were plotting instead of teaching the sheep (his beloved sheep) John 8:37, John 7:1,19,20 even calling him opposite of Christ, John 10:19,20,

Mark 10:34, here: Jesus even knew how & explained it. Isaiah 52, Psalms 22,

He knew he would be on public display, clothing taken from him, they would gamble for them: Psalms 22:18,19

Jesus knew he was being betrayed & even said go quickly, John 13:27,

Jesus knew the followers would scatter, anyone who loves those who depend on them in anyway never wishes to leave them, especially unprepared, afraid, in danger, alone, being pursued, John 17, John 10:11,12, Luke 12:4, Matthew 24:9,

Those are only some of the details. Extreme stress none of us have faced to that level. Hebrews 4:15,

Hopefully these are helpful to your discussion/ debate / controversy. 2Timothy 3:16,

Mystery Babylon is the whole world that has not believed in the God of heaven and earth. Satan has deceived a large part of the political,educational, and religious systems of this world. The high rollers of the earth that worship power, money and fame above God. Imho

1 Thessalonians 3:10. I prayed and re-read the Bible. 2 Timothy 2:15. Matthew 24:4-5. If you are guided by the Holy Spirit of God, Colossians 2:2-3. Grow in grace and Charity 2 Peter 3:18; 1 Corinthians 13:4-9. Colossians 3:14. Many of you 2 Timothy 3:10. Galatians 6:6. Galatians 6:10. All scriptures tie out-Old Testament and New Testament. God directed my paths to be a very honest Corporate Auditor on earth to testify that the Bible is true and indeed cannot lie. Men lie. Every word in KJV Bible you can follow stories upon stories for us to know and learn what to do. There is no man can pervert the word of God, except you are lost. I pray that all be saved. Read the Bible and be guided by the Holy Spirit; Cover to cover are blessed and believe 1 Corinthians 15:1-4. All scriptures directed in the end to The blood of Jesus Christ for the world salvation. 1 Thessalonians 5:21-22

Revelation 3:2. Thank you for the opportunities to communicate through written comments to some of you. Thank you for the website Agape.

No worries David. I'm glad you are so sure. I AM a follower of Christ. I have no fear, for the Lord is with me. So who is the mystery Babylon since it's not the U.S.A?

Part 3

So the transition was that Paul's epistles from Romans to Philemon depicted details of the rest of the Book of Acts from Jesus Christ blinding Paul in Damascus to the last chapter of Book of Acts. All Apostles are important. But because I am not a Jew, and God had chosen Paul to be the Apostle to the Gentiles, which I am, I believe God is telling me to read the writings of Paul. The Gospel revealed to Paul is in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4. The difference between the early Apostles is that they were preaching who Jesus was VS Paul revelation from God was how that Christ died for our sins according to scriptures that he was buried and rose again the third day according to the scriptures. Why emphasized scriptures twice? Because we are talking about the same And only One God who manifested in three persons-God the Father, The God Son Lord Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit (Trinity). Jesus death on the cross is a gift of grace for those who believe and justified through faith in Jesus blood, which I think Peter and the rest of the Apostles understood later through Paul Galatians 1:18. You see once you are sealed with the Holy Spirit of God you just know what to do. This I know I will not and refuse to think and accuse people today that they are anti-Christ if they are in any Christian Religion. They may have different interpretations, and traditional belief, but we have been warned about this in Colossians 2:8. That is fine with me if you do not believe the same way I understand the Bible. I just want to have a Godly conversation with anyone, for I am just another person who is trying to find the true God teachings in order to please the one and Holy God. To that effect, hoping that many will find the truth as well. Then in the end we all give Glory to God.