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Who was the Old Testament prophet,mentioned in Matthew 27:35 ???????

Sacha, that story reminds me of friends of mine when they were fairly newly married having an argument on the beach in Thailand, she leaves up the hill and he follows. Just ahead of the tsunami! They ended up housing at their nearby home many travelers until they could find transportation to their home countries .

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God works in mysterious ways His wonders to perform ,take heart and trust in Him everyone ,some years ago i had to have surgery and i knew that i might be left with a large ugly scar ,as it happens my scar is very neat and i was so happy and soo wanted to thank my surgeon in person but didnt get the chance .A couple of months later i went shopping ,first to return a faulty item ,this should have taken 5 mins but the lady in the shop wanted to argue with me so i let her ,it was all very unpleasant but after 25mins she admitted responsability and refunded my money ,i then walked to the supermarket ,a man was walking towards me and i knew i knew his face but couldnt remember where from ,as he reached me we recognised each other ,yes it was my surgeon and i got my hearts desire which was to thank him for my neat scar ,afterwards i realised that i would not have bumped into him if i hadnt had the hassle in the previous shop ,God is real God cares and He knows our hearts and minds ,He loves us ! And Hes not shy about showing us His love ! Take heart ,be strong be joyfull be brave and trust trust trust Him !

There is a place called Hades that Jesus went to for three days and three nights. And in Hades, there were compartments, as we know from Luke Chapter 16. The Old Testament saints were there on one side, and those who rejected were on the other side and were in torment.

So Jesus, when He dismissed His Spirit on the cross, He went down and proclaimed the victory. And when He rose from the dead, many of the Old Testament saints appeared, and they revealed themselves to many in Jerusalem.

According to 1 Corinthians Chapter 15, we know that Jesus revealed Himself to people for 40 days. At one time, 500 people, as witnesses to the resurrection of Christ.

What happened to the dead, while the graves were opened before his resurrection?

Were they a)I've but could not move?

What was their state of mind if they had any?

"for in the day thou eatest thereof thereof thou shall surely die" Genesis 2:16-17

"by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men" Romans 5:12

"Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God?..." 1 Corinthians 6:9

"But your iniquities have separated between you and you God" Isaiah 59:2

"the wages of sin is death" Romans 6:23

"The soul that sinneth, it shall die" Ezekiel 18:4

"shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death" Revelation 21:8

"And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire" Revelation 20:14-15

"For God so loved the world he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life" John 3:16

"And all things are lf God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ...To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them" 2 Corinthians 5:18-19

"Grace and truth came by Jesus Christ" John 1:17

"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and not of yourselves: it is the gift of God" Ephesians 2:8

"But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ" Ephesians 2:13

"and washed us from our sins in his own blood" Revelation 1:5

"the veil of the temple was rent in twain from top to bottom" Matthew 27:51

"In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace" Ephesians 1:7

"In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins: Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature" Colossians 1:14-15

"But God commendeth his love towards us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us" Romans 5:8

"And of his fulness have all received, and grace for grace" John 1:16

I have spent over 4 decades offhandedly wondering about Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani, but was never called to researched it. I'm not as fluent in Psalms, I've read it 4x, so I was kept in the dark. Matthew 27:46 & Psalm 22:1 & Psalm 42:9 among other scriptures were fulfilled on the cross through Jesus Christ.

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The Gospel of Nicodemus, identifies her as Claudia Procula, and a granddaughter of the Emperor Augustus.

While the Bible does not tell us who the wife of Pilate the governor was, the Apocryphal book, The Gospel of Nicodemus, identifies her as Claudia Procula, and a granddaughter of the Emperor Augustus.

what is the name of pilates wife

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It's not the translation of the KJV bible that lacks merit or credibility, but only people that misquote and mistranslate.

Matthew 7:15 "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves."

Revelation 22:18 "For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:"

Revelation 22:19 "And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book."

Matthew 5:18 "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."

Psalms 22:1 "(To the chief Musician upon Aijeleth Shahar, A Psalm of David.) My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring?"

Matthew 27:46 "And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?"

Mark 15:34 "And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?"

What is the difference of being in God & being of God?

Pochalla, may the Spirit grace you with HIS wisdom and His knowledge.

Let's try with the Spirits working to perceive what the Spirit calls the DAY OF THE LORD.

Amos 5:18-21 Woe unto you that DESIRE THE DAY OF THE LORD! to what end is it for you? the day of the Lord is DARKNESS, AND NOT LIGHT.

(20) Shall not the DAY OF THE LORD be darkness and not light? even very dark and no brightness in it?

Joel 2:31 The sun shall be turned in darkness, and the moon into blood, BEFORE THE GREAT AND THE TERRIBLE DAY OF THE LORD COME.

Is this prophecy yet in the future or has it already been fulfilled? Other scriptures and the symbols represented in them provide the answers.

Psalm 89:34-37 .....(36) His (David's) seed (Christ) shall endure forever, and his (Christ) throne as the sun before me. (vs) It (Christ and his throne) shall be established forever as the MOON, AND AS A FAITHFUL WITNESS IN HEAVEN.

Revelation 1:5 And from JESUS CHRIST, who is my FAITHFUL WITNESS IN HEAVEN. The Psalm says the MOON is the faithful witness implying the moon is symbolic of Jesus.

The prophecy says the sun shall be turned into darkness, and the MOON into blood. Has this already happened?

Matthew 27:45 Now from the sixth hour there was darkness over all the land unto the ninth hour.

John 19:34 ...and forthwith came there out BLOOD...

THE DAY OF THE LORD is every day and has been going on now for two thousand years.

Christ through the working of the Holy Spirit has been coming (the second time lake a thief in the night to those who look for him).

Hebrews 9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; AND UNTO THEM THAT LOOK FOR HIM SHALL HE APPEAR THE SECOND TIME WITHOUT SIN UNTO SALVATION.

Nina,

"And, behold, (1) the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and (2) the earth did quake, and (3) the rocks rent; And (3) the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, And came out of the graves after His resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many. Now when the centurion, and they that were with him, watching Jesus, saw the earthquake, and those things that were done, they feared greatly, saying, Truly this was the Son of God." Mat 27:51-54

This was preceded by 3 hours of darkness from noon til 3 PM.

We are not told any more information about the saints who arose only to die again as did Lazarus who who Jesus raised from the dead. Jesus was The Firstfruits of those who have died In Christ.

"But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept." 1Co 15:20

The Old Testament saints, believed God, just as Job of old trusted God.

"For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth: And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God: Whom I shall see for myself, and mine eyes shall behold, and not another; though my reins be consumed within me." Job 19:25-27

We will be raised INCORRUPTIBLE!

"Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed." 1Co 15:51-52

These that arose were not changed; not raised incorruptible.

Nina, May the Spirit grace you with HIS wisdom and His understanding.



Matthew 27:52-53 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,

(53) and came out of the graves after HIS RESURRECTION, and went in to the holy city, and appeared to many.

Understanding these scriptures takes other scriptures and the HOLY SPIRIT causing you to understand.

Isaiah 26:19 Thy dead men shall live, TOGETHER WITH MY DEAD BODY SHALL THEY ARISE......

This prophecy is three fold, Christ promises the (called out) saints of the old testament and the (called out) saints of the new testament along with (HIS) dead body would RISE TOGETHER.

Hebrews 11:16 But now they (saints of old) desire a better country, that is, a heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called there God: for he hath prepared them a (HOLY) CITY. The one in Matthew 27:53

Hebrews 11:39-40 And these all (saints of old), having obtained a good report through faith, RECEIVED NO THE PROMISE (eternal life, it would be given to them at Christ resurrection).

(40) God having provided some better thing for us (the called out of the new testament will never see death, we were resurrected with Christ), that they (saints of old) without us (new saints) should not be made perfect (image of Christ, who only hath immortality, [eternal life] 1 Timothy 6:16).

Luke 20:36 Neither can they (the called out) die any more (they [WE ARE SIN] died with Christ on the cross, were buried and arose with him): for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, BEING THE CHILDREN OF THE RESURRECTION.

Revelation 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. THIS IS THE FIRST RESURRECTION.

Psalms 103:20 Bless the Lord, YE HIS ANGELS, that excel in strength, that do his commandments,

hearkening unto the voice of his word.

Revelation 7:4 Describes the called out saints of the old testament that were sealed with the Holy Spirit (Christ).

Nina, May the Spirit grace you with HIS wisdom and His understanding.



Matthew 27:52-53 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,

(53) and came out of the graves after HIS RESURRECTION, and went in to the holy city, and appeared to many.

Understanding these scriptures takes other scriptures and the HOLY SPIRIT causing you to understand.

Isaiah 26:19 Thy dead men shall live, TOGETHER WITH MY DEAD BODY SHALL THEY ARISE......

This prophecy is three fold, Christ promises the (called out) saints of the old testament and the (called out) saints of the new testament along with (HIS) dead body would RISE TOGETHER.

Hebrews 11:16 But now they (saints of old) desire a better country, that is, a heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called there God: for he hath prepared them a (HOLY) CITY. The one in Matthew 27:53

Hebrews 11:39-40 And these all (saints of old), having obtained a good report through faith, RECEIVED NO THE PROMISE (eternal life, it would be given to them at Christ resurrection).

(40) God having provided some better thing for us (the called out of the new testament will never see death, we were resurrected with Christ), that they (saints of old) without us (new saints) should not be made perfect (image of Christ, who only hath immortality, [eternal life] 1 Timothy 6:16).

Luke 20:36 Neither can they (the called out) die any more (they [WE ARE SIN] died with Christ on the cross, were buried and arose with him): for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, BEING THE CHILDREN OF THE RESURRECTION.

Revelation 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. THIS IS THE FIRST RESURRECTION.

Psalms 103:20 Bless the Lord, YE HIS ANGELS, that excel in strength, that do his commandments,

hearkening unto the voice of his word.

Revelation 7:4 Describes the called out saints of the old testament that were sealed with the Holy Spirit (Christ).

who was the people that rose when Jesus open the grave

Chris,the bible does say he was nailed to the stake or tree at mark 15:25 and also at matthew 27:35.he would have had his arms straight above him and nails through his wrists.

First of all in Ephesians 4:8-12 GOD descends First to into Paradise, a great Water separates Hades=Hell with Paradise in the lower Parts of the Earth. GOD=Jesus 3 full Nights and 3 full Days in belly of the Earth, then arises with the Saint's to 3rd Heaven. Abraham and the Beggar are with them all. That is why Hades has more than doubled in size as GOD said it did. Paradise is no more. GOD took it all away at his Resurrection. Resurrected Saints where seen by Many, Matthew 27: 50-55. Proving the Resurrection of GOD and his Saints into Glory=3rd Heaven. Where we are hoping and Praying to get to. As they Ascended to Glory so will we. GOD= Lord Jesus Christ proves this in Bodily form, to show us all what wait's us all. Glory!!! I hope this helps all of you as it did me.

Sheri, the Spirit has graced you with his wisdom and understanding. Most don't understand that THE DAY OF THE LORD has been going on for 2000 years.

Amos 8:9 And it shall come to pass in THAT DAY, saith the Lord God, that I will cause the sun to go down at noon, and I will darken the earth in a clear day.

Matthew 27:45 And from the sixth hour there was darkness over all the land unto the ninth hour.

Joel 2:31 The sun shall be turned in darkness, and the MOON into blood, BEFORE the terrible DAY OF THE LORD come.

Psalm 89:36 It (his seed, Christ) shall be established for ever as the MOON, and as a faithful witness in heaven.

Revelation 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is my FAITHFUL WITNESS......

John 19:34 .....and forthwith came there out blood and water.....

Zachariah 14:7 IT SHALL BE ONE DAY which shall be known to the Lord, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass at evening time it shall be light.

It still isn't light and 2000 years has already passed.

The Spirits grace continue upon you.

Rick you state: "now we look look up those words back in old testament actual translation is my God my God for this purpose was I kept or spared you tell me what makes more sense." This is regards to Matthew 27:46 & Psalm 22:1. Where did you learn this interpretation from as both the Gospel & the Psalm agree with each other?

Could it not be that in His Humanity, Jesus in agony cried out to His Father longing for that intimacy which He had before, but that the Father for the purpose of not taking away from the full impact of this Sacrifice, remained aloof & quiet. This would have been absolutely exceptional, extraordinary & devastating as Jesus always enjoyed intimacy with the Father, but now the Father was suddenly silent at a time that His Son needed Him most. I might be wrong with this understanding - how do you see it?

Anne, may the Spirit grace you with his understanding;

Hebrews 11 is a testament about the old testament saints; but pay close attention to verses 39 and 40.

Hebrews 11:39-40 And these all (old testament saints), having obtained a good report through (the work of the Spirit of Christ or the Holy Ghost which is) faith, received not the promise (eternal life, incorruption, immortality):

(vs) 40 God (Spirit) having provided some better thing for us (children of the resurrection), that they (old testament saints) without us (children or the resurrection) should not be made perfect (complete in the Spirit of Christ or the Holy Ghost who only hath immortality 1 timothy 6:16).

John 11:25 ..... I am the resurrection......

Ephesians 2:6 And hath raised us ( old testament saints, children or the resurrection and Christ) up together......

Revelation 20:5 .... this is the first resurrection....

Matthew 27:52-53 And the graves were opened; and many of the bodies of the (old testaments) saints which slept (died waiting for the promise) arose,

(vs) 53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city (new Jerusalem)......

Revelation 7:1-4 (vs) 3 ......till we (Spirit) have sealed our servants (old testament) saints in their foreheads (given them the mind of Christ)......

Revelation 14:4 .......these (old testament saints) were redeemed from among men, being the FIRST FRUITS unto God.....

Revelation 1:3 .... for the time is at hand...

May the Spirit grace you with his wisdom.

Hopeful, may the Spirit grace you with his (spiritual) knowledge and his (spiritual) wisdom.

John 6:63 ....... the words that I ( 1 Peter 1:11,the Spirit of Christ or 1 Peter 1:21,the Holy Ghost or 2 Samuel 23:1-2, the Spirit of the Lord or Revelation 19:10,the words of Jesus) speak unto you, they (words) are spirit, and they (words) are life.

The day of the Lord is prophecy about a spiritual day; but, a day in spiritual time is not necessarily a day in natural time ( 2 Peter 3:8).

Joel 2:28 And it shall come to pass afterwards (after the day of the Lord), that I (Spirit) will will pour my spirit upon all flesh......

Since the Spirit (Holy Ghost) was poured out on all mankind at pentecost; therefore, the day of the Lord begin at pentecost and is continuing to this day 2000 years later in natural time; but, only one day in spiritual time.

Second witness:

Joel 2:31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon (symbolic of Christ)..... Psalm 89:35-36 And it (the throne of Christ, from the proceeding verse) shall be established forever as the moon, and as a FAITHFUL WITNESS in heaven...... Revelation 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the FAITHFUL WITNESS.......into blood before the terrible (wonderful) day of the Lord (pentecost) come.

Revelation 6:12 And I beheld when he (the Lamb) had opened the sixth seal, and lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth hair, and the moon (symbolic of Christ) became as blood.....

Matthew 27:45 Now from the sixth hour there was darkness over all the land unto the ninth hour.

Matthew 27:51 ........and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent.

John 19:34 ...and forthwith came there blood and water.

Revelation 8:1 And when he (the Lamb) had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half hour (spiritual time not natural time)

This time was the time between Christ resurrection and the day of the Lord (pentecost)

Daniel 12:11-12 45 days between vs 11 and 12

Please read about Elijah starting in 1 Kings Chapter 17 - he was a prophet in the Old Testament.

Oh yes, I believe Satan knew full well what the implications of Jesus' death & resurrection would mean to him & to everyone caught in his snare of sin & pursuing sinful lives. But the 'nature of the beast' drives him to put into effect every skill & trick he has to try to out-smart & out-do God's Divine Plan & Power. He knows that ultimately he won't succeed & will be defeated ( Revelation 12:12), but as we say, "he will go down fighting to the very end". That is his nature - that is his singular focus: to keep mankind estranged from their Creator & to be subservient to him, the destroyer of our souls.

Satan knows that the Cross is not some idle, ill-advised plan of God, because He knows the Nature of God, him being once considered as a 'covering Cherub' ( Ezekiel 28:16), which implies his previous position associated with God's Holiness. He knows the Power, Wisdom & Holiness of God, and that his character would always be deficient & defective as a result of his pride, sin & fall. But will that knowledge stop him believing that his greatness is comparable to God, that his wisdom & power can put up a good fight against God's Holiness & that the more he can deceive the World & gather them to himself, will translate to him being the victor? We were not unlike him, as once the children of the devil, how easy it was for us to consider ourselves more superior to others, not as bad sinners as others are, our righteousness will secure Heaven for us, that success in wealth & receiving man's adulation ought to be our present pursuit & enjoyment, etc, etc. The qualities of God & of Satan are diametrically opposed to each other. Our present pursuit, with our renewed minds & spirits, are only towards the things of God & not to the one who came to steal, kill & destroy our lives.

Of Judas: for the sake of prophecy, his actions by Satan's influence had to occur ( Matthew 27:9,10 & Zechariah 11:12,13). By the way, in Jewish reckoning, many prophetical books came under Jeremiah.

This can be a difficult question to answer depending on how you understand certain Scriptures.

For those who deem that Heaven & Paradise are the same location, they will cite 2 Corinthians 12:4 & Revelation 2:7, where in each of these references, Paul & John indicated that Heaven, the abode of God, is intended.

For those who believe that Paradise is a separate place, they will appeal to the location of departed souls pre-Cross, as in Luke chapter 16. Here we see the rich man being tormented in hell, & beyond the separating gulf, there was Lazarus, the beggar, who enjoyed relative comfort. And in Luke 23:43, Jesus tells the thief on the Cross that he would also go to Paradise with Him. We assume that this wasn't Heaven, as Jesus said that He had not ascended to the Father ( John 20:17). We understand that while Jesus' Body was in the sepulchre for the three days, Jesus, as also the thief, went down into Paradise. But at Jesus' bodily resurrection, those bodies in the graves also arose ( Matthew 27:53) with Him & we might assume that their souls once held in Paradise were now released to enter Heaven.

Some compartmentalize Hades with a section of suffering & another section of comfort. At Christ's death & resurrection, the souls who were in comfort (being noted for their faith & love for God), were released from there & taken into Heaven, the abode of God. However, the wicked still remain in Hades awaiting their final judgement & casting into the Lake of Fire (in the future).

So in answer to your question, both Heaven & Paradise can now be correctly considered as one & the same. But there was a distinction made pre-Cross, as those held in that Paradise (a place of comfort) awaited the great event of Christ's Sacrifice that provided the payment for their sins based on their faith & removed their condemnation. Romans 8:1.

Galatians 5

19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these:

Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,

20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,

21 Envyings, murders*, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

*anyone ever say to you; "you are dead to me?" That's a murder.

Mishael

Isaiah 55:9

James Bible

For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.

James Bible

For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater

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So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it

In that portion of Scripture, Jesus had cried out, "Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" (verse 46). The people around the cross who heard Jesus' cry thought He was calling out to Elias (Elijah), whereas Jesus was calling out to God His Father.

But the people were expecting Elijah to come before the Messiah, but they didn't know or failed to remember what Jesus said earlier, that John the Baptist did come in fulfilment of prophecy ( Malachi 3:1) by coming in the spirit & power of Elijah ( Matthew 11:7-14).