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Water baptism. Part 1

From the very beginning in the bible, water separates or divides from something: Genesis 1: 6, 7.

When God set apart people for himself, he used water to separate you from something to bring you into something else.

In the old testament, Moses and the priest had to wash with water to be sanctified for service.

Want to show how many scriptures(not all) are showing how important baptism is!

Ezekiel 36: 24 - 27:

God takes the unclean, sprinkles clean water on them, and they shall be clean. Puts his Spirit in them and calls them his people!

New Testament:

John the Baptist baptized with water, also baptized Jesus that the scriptures would be fullfilled:

Matthew 3: 11, 16.

John 1: 26 - 33.

Luke 3: 16, 21.

Matthew 28:19:

Teach all nations to baptize in Jesus name.

Mark 16:16:

He that believes and is baptized shall be saved.

Luke 24: 47 - 49:

Beginning at Jerusalem, repentance and water baptism(remission of sins) preached in Jesus name among all nations.

John 3: 5 - 7:

Jesus taught you must be born again of water(baptism) and Spirit.

John 13:10:

Jesus washed his disciple's feet with water, calling them clean.

John 19:34:

Jesus dead on the cross; soldier pierced his side, out came BLOOD and WATER.

Note:

1 John 5: 6, 8:

Jesus came by WATER and BLOOD.

There are 3 that bear witness in the earth: Spirit, water, and blood. These 3 agree in one.

One what? - One new birth.

Continued next text.

Acts 2:38:

Baptized in water for remission of sins to be saved. Jews first, then gentiles.

Note:

2: 41:

3000 souls were baptized to be obedient.

Acts 8: 36 - 39:

Philip baptized eunuch in water.

Acts 9:18:

Apostle Paul is baptized.

Acts 10: 47, 48:

Peter baptized Cornelius and his family.

Acts 18: 8:

Chief ruler of synagogue believed on the Lord(many with him) got baptized.

Acts 19: 1 - 6:

Paul baptized certain disciples in the name of the Lord Jesus.

Continue to water baptism part 2.

Water baptism

From the very beginning in the bible, water separates or divides from something: Genesis 1: 6, 7.

When God set apart people for himself, he used water to separate you from something to bring you into something else.

In the old testament, Moses and the priest had to wash with water to be sanctified for service.

Want to show how many scriptures(not all) are showing how important baptism is!

Ezekiel 36: 24 - 27:

God takes the unclean, sprinkles clean water on them, and they shall be clean. Puts his Spirit in them and calls them his people!

New Testament:

John the Baptist baptized with water, also baptized Jesus that the scriptures would be fullfilled:

Matthew 3: 11, 16.

John 1: 26 - 33.

Luke 3: 16, 21.

Matthew 28:19:

Teach all nations to baptize in Jesus name.

Mark 16:16:

He that believes and is baptized shall be saved.

Luke 24: 47 - 49:

Beginning at Jerusalem, repentance and water baptism(remission of sins) preached in Jesus name among all nations.

John 3: 5 - 7:

Jesus taught you must be born again of water(baptism) and Spirit.

John 13:10:

Jesus washed his disciple's feet with water, calling them clean.

John 19:34:

Jesus dead on the cross; soldier pierced his side, out came BLOOD and WATER.

Note:

1 John 5: 6, 8:

Jesus came by WATER and BLOOD.

There are 3 that bear witness in the earth: Spirit, water, and blood. These 3 agree in one.

One what? - One new birth.

Continued next text.

Since water baptism does not bring salvation but comes after salvation as an outward testimony of an inward change, we have to wonder if it truly matters if you are dunked once or three times.

I can tell you that when Jesus walked the earth, before the church began, the Jews used to dunk three times. They didn't know why they did it that way, they just did.

But it is interesting that Jesus said in Matthew 28:19 that when you baptize, baptize in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Again, the Jews dunked three times, they just never put it together why three times.

There are three things we identify with during baptism, Jesus' death, burial, and resurrection.

Whether we are dunked once or three times has been debated for a long time. Again, however many times a person goes under will not affect their relationship as a born again believer in Christ.

Hello Patty and Joe,

Here are a couple links to the verses I think you are seeking:

Matthew 28:18-20

( Mark 16:14-20

( John 16

( John 20:21-22

Hope that helps. God Bless.

Thanks for the commentary. very enlightening and helpful. Jesus rose from the grave on Sunday, the first day of the week. That was a great victory over death. Is that the reason why the seventh day sabbath was done away with? Can you give me some texts to support this view?

Jesus said a number of things at the last meeting that His disciples heard. The Evangelists chose to record what The Holy Spirit lead each to do.

See Mark 16:14-19.

See Luke 24:44-51 and Acts 1:3-8. Seems that Doctor Luke might have run out of scroll writing his Gospel and continued his account at the beginning of The Acts of The Apostles. Acts1:9-11 continues with The Ascension.

John recorded nothing related to this event.

So I'd assume that all these things were said by Jesus and that they saw Jesus ascend to The Father. "But some doubted." Matt 28:17.

I have a question. When Jesus gave this last commandment (Matthew 2820), was this the last time the disciples saw Jesus? Is this what Jesus said as he ascended into heaven? Thank you

Even at the end of time, Jesus will still be there for them and us. I see Jesus' promise there in verse 20, as a description or an expression of the extent of His Love & Presence with them: even though the heavens & earth pass away, His devotion to His Church will never fail. Nothing can separate us from His Love. Romans 8:38,39.

Matthew 28:20 praise God for this verse but what about after the end of time?

Please explain Matthew 28:19

As Christians we believe in the triune God; Father, Son and Holy Ghost, three distinct Persons in one divine Being, or Essence. (The Holy Trinity)

Matthew 28:19 "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:"

John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

John 1:2 "The same was in the beginning with God."

John 1:14 "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth."

1 John 5:7 "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."

1 John 5:8 "And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one."

Yes, The other Comforter Jesus was talking about was the Holy Ghost, John chapters 14,to 16 talk of the other Comforter and Acts chapter 2 is a good explanation of when the apostles received the Holy Ghost (Spirit)

Matthew 28: through baptism and faith, because the Holy Ghost is Spirit he can be anywhere in the world at the same time.



John 14:26 "But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you."

John 16:7 "Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you."

Acts 2:4 "And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance"

Matthew 28:19

"Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:"

Hello Bob,

That is correct. I don't have a problem with people saying Jesus is God.

If you do then that's your issue. As my post was only to make peace. I do not call Jesus Christ the Father. Lots of other people do though so it's them you quarrel with I guess. I say the Father is in Jesus Christ and He in the Father. Just as our Lord states in John 14:10.

Yes the Father has authority over all. But you seem to put Jesus Christ on our level? God our Father has given all His authority to His Son Jesus Christ. He has all the power of the Father. You said to someone else "I agree that Jesus and the Father are One". How you interpret that is up to you.

Jesus Christ is the exact representation of the Father. As in Hebrews 1:2-3. God our Father is Spirit not human.

Yes I also would say Jesus Christ is at the right hand of the Father. I would also say the Father has given Him a throne also. Matthew 28:18, Matthew 25:31, Revelation 3:21

A couple verses showing the Oneness of God and Christ. Revelation 5:13, Revelation 22:1, Revelation 22:3

God Bless you.

I must commend you for ending your prayer in the Name of Jesus. As you well know, Jesus is the Name of the Savior. Colossians 3:17 says"And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him." So by praying in the Name of Jesus, you are praying to God. Salvation came only by Jesus ( Acts 4:12; Matthew 1:21; John 17:6; Luke 3:31; John 1:14) So when you pray in the name of Jesus, you are praying to God. All of the fullness of God is in Jesus( Colossians 1:19). We are saved through Jesus--He died on the Cross and provided the means of escape for the whole world. The demons tremble at the name of Jesus( James 2:19) Again, I commend you for praying in Jesus' Name and ending your prayer in Jesus' Name. There is no other name given to us whereby we must be saved. Jesus even said that repentance and remission of sins would be preached in His name ( Luke 24:47). It is through His name that we are baptized ( Matthew 28:18-20; Acts 1:8; Acts 2:38; Acts 3: 19) I am so grateful to find believers who still hold to the Bible. God bless you and may God keep you is my prayer. I hope I provided some insight into Name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

What is our part in God's plan of salvation for the lost?

Therefore, we are ambassadors for Christ, God making his appeal through us. We implore you on behalf of Christ, be reconciled to God ( 2 Corinthians 5:20). you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth ( Acts 1:8). Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit ( Matthew 28:19).

And he said to them, Go into all the world and proclaim the gospel to the whole creation. Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned ( Mark 16:15-16).

But God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us ( Romans 5:8). And we likewise are to share God's love with others.

Hopefully the unsaved will

Repent you therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out ( Acts 3:19).

We are called upon by God to be His representatives to the world, spreading His gospel, that we may demonstrate His love to the lost that they to may be saved.

Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength. The second is this: Love your neighbor as yourself. There is no commandment greater than these ( Mark 12:30-31). The greatest way we can show God's love to others is to spread God's saving gospel - by evangelizing.

Without evangelism - spreading the Word of God, billions of souls would have never known the sweat salvation of God. God uses us, if we obey, to bring Him lost souls.

If the lost condition of this world is on your heart, log in some prayer time with the Holy Spirit.

Jesus sent the disciples out by 2's. Study how Jesus ministered to the lost.

Mishael

Hello Lester,

Hopefully these you will enjoy. As I don't know if it's exactly what you're looking for, hope these couple are ok:

Psalms 100:1-5 , Psalms 116:1-9 , Psalms 139:1-18

Isaiah 55:1-13 , Isaiah 56:1-7 , Isaiah 58

Lamentations 3:22-31

Matthew 18:19-20 , Matthew 28:20

John 14 , John 15

Hebrews 11:6

James 4:8

1 John 4

You wrote, "Thats y the lord was so upset with Peter as Peter was in essence saying the blood was insufficient they needed water baptism". The Lord 'was upset' not because Peter negated the efficacy & sufficiency of Christ's Blood sacrifice, but that Peter had rejected the fact that Gentiles could also be partakers of the Holy Ghost, & the vision was to show that "what God had cleansed, that call not thou common". Nothing to do with water baptism. He then clarified this in Acts 11 to the other apostles & believers in Jerusalem & they together "When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life". (11:18).

You wrote, "Thats y Paul said i thank God that i baptised none of you, Paul knew that water baptism wd make the CROSS th BLOOD OF NO EFFECT". If you read the passage again, Paul was upset that there were cliques forming as certain folk followed after some of the big names. So Paul said what he said, in case some would think that he was so great that water baptism was being done in Paul's name & by his authority & not what Jesus had prescribed. ( 1 Corinthians 1:12-16).

If you deny the necessity of water baptism, post Cross & post reception of the Holy Spirit, you have to deny what Jesus ordained in Matthew 28:19 & what all the apostles believed was necessary as shown in many Scriptures. I'm unsure from where you develop your ideas: there are definite Truths in what you write, but it seems that your interpretations which clearly are outside the revealed Scriptures, formulate your ideas. And that is a dangerous practise.

In reference to "why do Churches baptize in the Name of the Trinity?" They use Matthew 28:19 as their directive for doing so. Though I suppose, given the use of the Name of Jesus only for baptising (as according to the portions you have cited), then this too would be appropriate because of apostolic/early Church precedent.

The Letter to the Hebrews is essentially the author's goal to demonstrate the superiority of Jesus Christ & therefore, of Christianity, to the prophets (1:1-3), to the angels (1:4-2:18) and to Moses (3:1-6). The rest of the letter gives Christ's superiority by His Priesthood (5:1-10:39) and by His Own Power (11:1-13:19).

But looking at Hebrews 1:4: Jesus status as the Son of God was a far greater status to that of angels. To no angel did God say, "Thou art My Son, this day have I begotten Thee". And when the First begotten came into the world, God said, "And let all the angels of God worship Him". This the Hebrews writer took from Psalm 97:7 and Deuteronomy 32:43, from the Septuagint version, though not in the Hebrew/KJV. So the Name of Jesus, as also His Divine Birth, made Him far greater than that of angels, which some might have proposed Him to be ranked with. And this Jesus came in "the brightness of God's Glory & the express Image of His Person, after He Himself purged our sins, sat down at the right Hand of the Majesty on High" ( Heb 1:3). I don't see from these Scriptures, or anywhere else, that Jesus ever took on the Person of the Father, rather at present He is seated beside Him in Heaven. Are you thinking of a Scripture when suggesting "Jesus inherits his name from his father which was Kept Secret in the Old Testament but revealed in the New Testament"?

God bless you brother Albert

I agree with you 100%. It is not often that you hear someone saying the great truth that Jesus Christ is the Name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. May I ask where did you learn this?

For me, I listened to the preaching of William Branham to get the revelation of baptism. Oh what a wonderful time that was in my life! Being filled with truth - and knowing that you know it is Thus Sayeth The Lord. Hallelujah!

Peace & Love in Christ

The Great Commission of Matthew 28:19 is one of the greatest commands in the Bible. Jesus told his disciples to "GO". We are to go therefore and teach all nations baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the HolyGhost. Baptism is essential. If it were not, Jesus would not have given us this command. We Must baptize by immersion, the way they did it in biblical times, in the NAME of the Father, and of the Son, and HolyGhost. Father, Son, and HolyGhost are not a single name. So what is the name of the Father, and what is the name of the Son, and what is the name of the HolyGhost. Jesus said in St. John 17:6 that He manifested the name of the Father to the world. Colossians clearly tells us that all of Godhead rest in Jesus( Colossians 2:9). Therefore, we are to be baptized in the Name of Jesus. None of the apostles baptized using the titles Father, Son, and HolyGhost. They understood the Great Commission that He gave them. Jesus is the Name of the Father, Son, and the HolyGhost. He is the Father in creation. All things were made by Him(John1:3). He is the Son in redemption; for without the shedding of blood, there would be no remission of sin. God is a Spirit. The invisible God became visible in flesh(John1:14; Isaiah 40:3; 1Timothy3:16; Revelation 1:13; Colossians 2:9, etc) Jesus is the HolyGhost that fell on believers in the upper room ( Acts 2:4). No one in biblical times was baptized any other way--except in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. This Great Commission is going all over the world. Jesus is the Messiah, He is the name of Savior of the world. Neither is there salvation in any other for there is no other name under heaven given whereby we must be saved( Acts 4:12). Therefore, we must adhere to the words of the Great Commission given by our Savior and go into the world baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the HolyGhost. Teaching them to observe all things, and lo I am with you even unto the end of the world

Was Mary Magdelen a prositute?

What are "all things whatsoever I have commanded you" in Matthew 28:20?

When we begin to pray in earnest for family and friends; it feels weird. We don't have confidence in our abilities. Satan doesn't want you to pray! Fight against FEELINGS. The first consideration is the realization that one of God's greatest desires is the salvation of all mankind. God's desire is clearly stated.

The Great Commission in Matthew 28:19 says, Go therefore and make disciples of all nations.

This is good, and it is pleasing in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth ( 1 Timothy 2:3-4).

It is God's desire that all should be saved. He loves you so much that He gave His one and only son as a ransom to pay for our sins.

Overcoming Spiritual Blindness & Deafness.

We should, we must, pray for the Salvation of others. What we are doing is asking God to move in their lives. Jesus said that He came to "seek and to save the lost" ( Luke 19:10). Jesus does the seeking and the Holy Spirit opens their heart. If you want to see someone's heart healed and their eternal future secured, you must be praying. Pray helps open the door to Jesus. Jesus taught that we "ought always to pray and not lose heart" ( Luke 18:1).

Turn off all the media, so we can pray and hear The Holy Spirit.

If it is God's desire that all should be saved, then why are so many people still unsaved? 2 Corinthians 4:4 tells us the god of this world [the devil] has blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

You can watch some spiritual warfare videos on YouTube. I'll post on that later. Let's get our families freed and saved.

Prayers

Intercessory Prayer

Standing in the Gap Prayer

Spiritual Warfare

Mishael

To be saved you must repent. Live repentance. Baptism is an outward showing of spiritual commitment to Jesus Christ. One can be baptized by a preacher but still may not turn away from sin and live in repentance. Being baptized by a man is one thing, being baptized by the Holy Spirit is another.

Many (different groups)argue and debate this but if you read the Bible Jesus speaks specifically on this. The KJV Study Bible also includes commentary on the subject.

I find baptism to be very important for personal reasons. Feeling a literal washing away of sin through water. Though, the Holy Spirit will baptize your heart where no water can touch.

Be baptized and live repentance.

Yes. Yes and yes.

He said, many ravenous wolves will come among you, even now. He also said even now there are many anti-Christs. Paul was concerned for his brothers and sisters, but more for God's sake. He knew things were going to get really bad. in 70, the siege of Jerusalem, 100-300 the age of martyrs. 330-600 the age of the emperor's control on the church. If you were a follower of anything deemed "Jewish like" that includes praying, tithing to your pastor and not the empire, keeping Sabbath on a day not set by the Romans, refusing to fight in expansionist wars, reading the old testament, etc... you could be put to death, and it happened often. Then came 600-700, the age of the schism. People know about Greece and Rome, orthodox vs catholic, but they don't know about Bulgaria and Maphyiastite. Bulgaria kept a 7th day sabbath and Kosher, Maphyiastite didn't believe in trinity or state control of the church. they were hunted as heretics. 700-900, the Muslim invasion of Europe and Rome, as well as the "heathen invasion of Rome proper". Then came 900-1000 vikings, then 1000-1400 Crusades, where the name of God was vilified even more. Then came the "renaissance" when they started saying, "well, God didn't mean that." Not to mention Dante's inferno and that heretical piece of garbage that was used to scare people away from hell and into "heaven". Then there was the age of discovery and the "evangelizing" of America. Again, God's name was vilified and tarnished by people claiming to love him. Then the reformation happened and a huge war that claimed a million Christians on both sides. Then the Cossacks eradicated the Jews and Gypsies from Russia in "God's name". Then WW1, then WW2. Christians have been through a lot, and a lot of it was because of wolves and anti-christs that rose up within the midst.

I'll give you one better, why don't people follow his commandment to "call none father except our father in heaven?" Or one better still, why was the martyr Antipas( rev 2) called that? his name literally means anti-pater, or father. But he was very obviously godly. So what father was he being "anti" to? Then, when did Pastors start being called Father's? We are called to be Judges, and that isn't only as in law judges, but like the book. In Judges they're called Deliverers of the people. But there's an issue with it, in Judges things get really bad really quick. Judges is summed up by the last verse, "in those days there was no king in Israel, every man did what was right in their own eyes." Many Christians have no king, so they do what is right in their own eyes. So, that is the answer to your question.

that was to the church who didnt really know God. For example if I barely knew you I would say"Hey, Joe" buut if I really knew you that I would talk diferently and if you were my best friend I could talk to you about personal topics.

Christ did not command everyone to pray. That was commanded to the Israelites to pray "Our Father"...

That is why it starts off "Our Father" Not Everyone Father

Why dont people pray according to Jesus' directions? He says to pray the 'Our Father" but we pray specifically?