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  • Faith works - In Reply on Matthew 28 - 3 years ago
    Secret ?

    Mathew 16 v 18

    And I say unto thee thou art Peter and upon this rock I will build my church ; and the gates of hell will not prevail !

    Secret ?
  • Bro dan - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Bro Alex,

    Jesus in plain language told his disciples:

    Matthew 28:19

    "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:"

    Do you not believe this verse? Yes or No?

    After Christs crucifixion: Peter tells us (everyone) how we receive the Holy Spirit.

    Acts 2:38

    "Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost." Do you believe this verse? Yes or No?

    You mention John 3:37 This is Jesus telling us to drink from his spirit, yes he promises to give us his Holy Spirit, going on - In John 3:38 "He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water." This confirms that we will receive the Holy Spirit when we believe in Him, repent, be baptized as "all of the scripture" states. We need to read, understand and believe in "all of the scripture" not just "cherry pick" single verses like this - that may meet "your own unique vision" of salvation.

    You continually mention the need for us to become like children to enter into heaven. I agree, we need to become like children as commanded by Jesus: Matthew 18:3 "And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven."

    The way we become like children - is to become - "like children" - humble, obedient, and submissive to Christs instructions, and commands, as Jesus/God emphasizes throughout the Old, and New Testaments in the bible. The downfall of the Jews and Christians yesterday and today - is the sinful and continual rebellious attitude to obedience toward Gods commands!

    Read and believe!
  • Bro dan - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Bro Alex,

    Thanks for your response. Respectfully, you are ignoring these simple verses spoken by Jesus:

    John 3:5

    "Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God."

    Jesus tells us plainly that "we must be born of water" and "of the Spirit". If not, we CAN NOT enter into the Kingdom of God!

    God came down to earth to be born as a person in Jesus, so that he could not only tell us what he expects us to do, but he came to be an example. Jesus didn't need to be baptized, but he did, why, TO SHOW US!

    Matthew 3:16-17

    And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

    Jesus personally showed us in this scripture above that when we believe, repent, and get baptized, we do receive his Holy Spirit. Jesus probably foresaw that there would be future times that people would question his commands - just like some today that are questioning water baptism. Well, he gives us his "perfect example" of what he wants and commands us to do! Christians can't ignore the above scripture!

    Bro Alex, are you also going to ignore this scripture Jesus instructing his apostles below:

    Matthew 28:19-20

    Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

    Jesus says above in addition to baptizing; "observe all things whatsoever I have commanded of you". Jesus tells us that if we follow him - he will be with us always - until the end of the world!

    Alex, I'm not instructing you to do these things - Jesus is instructing you - Read and Believe!
  • Rick Mentzer - In Reply on Matthew 28 - 3 years ago
    Faith Works The church of God if that's what you referring to was kept secret by God Romans 16:25+26 and

    1 Peter 1:10-12 and did not start until pentecost.
  • Faith works on Matthew 28 - 3 years ago
    Matthew 28 v 18 , 19 , 20

    In verse 18 Jesus says all power is GIVEN unto me in heaven and earth .

    Who is the superior one that gave him this power ? Must be his father God .

    Verse 20 I am with you always , even unto the end of the world

    He is speaking to his disciples , that would be the church .

    How does one see a rapture pretrib in this statement ? It's not there .
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Deuteronomy 25 - 3 years ago
    Grace.

    Part 2 of 2.

    THE COMMAND.

    For starters there is more to the words command in the Greek that I am not adequate to explain.

    What is actually being commanded?

    What are Jesus commands spoken of in Matthew 28:20.?

    Are these commands to be water baptized? let's take a look.

    Matthew 28:19-20.

    19) Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

    20) Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

    For starters the command is to observe all things whatsoever I HAVE COMMANDED YOU. Who's being commanded?

    Who's the you? The command went to the disciples. It wasn't a command to the recipient of the message.

    Where is the command to the recipient to be baptized with water?

    If baptism by water was an act of obedience to a command, where is it?

    I do see where the lord commanded the disciples to love one another as he has loved them.

    John 13:34-35.

    34) A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

    35) By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

    It does seem like verse 35 would be useful in their commission.

    God bless.
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Deuteronomy 25 - 3 years ago
    GiGi in that case apparently show should have bypass this one because This topic was whether water baptism was required for salvation or not. NOTHING ELSE!!

    It expressed using the term correctly.

    I agree that the apostles new exactly what the Lord had them to do, But sorry I believe you are gravely in error of what that was. And Paul said Jesus ( Sent him not to baptize) But to preach the Gospel!!

    1 Corinthians 1:17. You have to be consistent in your view. You expresses Matthew 28:19. BUT PAUL SAYS HE SENT HIM NOT TO BAPTIZE. And the scripture doesn't say anyone baptized for him..

    If Paul would have been the Apostles to the Jews he would have been commissioned to baptize as well.

    He would have been involved in this transition.

    But this was not a commandment defined the way the commandment is defined in the ten commandments. To command as mentioned in Matthew is the act of Power.



    Anything you add to the finish work of Christ is a heresy.

    Again we NEVER was discussing an act of obedience, Circumcision was commandment but Circumcision didn't save lives. It's a cutting away of the flesh. Another action pointing to the finish work on the cross, as well as water baptism. Many in the first century church believed water baptism was to was away the leprosy of sin.

    The Lord didn't come to clean us up.

    Baptism is where the old man dies and is born again!! not a spiritual bath.

    From what I have seen many of those who hold this view don't stop there, They believe you can loose your salvation,

    Salvation is by works not grace! You don't know your saved until you are Judged ect..

    There seems to be an absence of Christ supplied faith if you don't Know.

    John says we can Know by the love we have one for another.

    We are given strength to obey God's word by the Spirit AFTER we have been saved.

    and that's not to remain saved, It's because we are saved.

    And we shouldn't be partial.

    We should obey Paul pastoral epistles as well. Don't you think?
  • Adam - In Reply on Deuteronomy 25 - 3 years ago
    Hello,

    I may suggest reading Acts 2:38. Notice it says 'every one of you'. It doesn't say just 'some of you' or 'only if your mom or other family hasn't been baptized'. So, when I read the Bible and trust that its words are true, I am also believing in faith that when it says 'every one of you' that it means 'every one of you', including you and me. Jesus made baptism a big deal, so I think the least I can do if I'm serious about following Him is to obey and be baptized. Mark 16:16, John 3:5, Matthew 28:19

    Perhaps another question is: are you a Christian? And if so why wouldn't you want to be baptized like Jesus said?

    You might also check out the verses on this page: Link

    God bless...
  • Wilbur - 3 years ago
    Comment Part 9 continued

    Acts 1:15 KJV

    [15] And in those days Peter stood up in the midst of the disciples, and said, (the number of names together were about an hundred and twenty,)

    Acts 2:1-4 KJV

    [1] And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. [2] And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting. [3] And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. [4] And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

    One hundred twenty disciples were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance. This is the first Church of Jesus Christ, who is the head of the Church, is Lord of all. This is not called Trinity Church as you think that Trinity is made of the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: as you claim to say what Jesus said according to the scriptures of Matthew 28:19 KJV [19] Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: That is the misunderstanding of the scriptures as those who believe in the Trinity's doctrine that is FALSE.

    According to the scriptures of Acts 2:42 KJV [42] And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers. What Jesus taught the twelve apostles to follow His doctrine is the ministry of Jesus Christ according to the scriptures of Ephesians 2:19-22 KJV [19] Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God; [20] And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone ; (Read next comment in Part 10)
  • Firmvictara69 - 3 years ago
    Comment Part 6 continued

    Acts 2:39-47 KJV

    [39] For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call. [40] And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation. [41] Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. [42] And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers. [43] And fear came upon every soul: and many wonders and signs were done by the apostles. [44] And all that believed were together, and had all things common; [45] And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need. [46] And they, continuing daily with otures accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart, [47] Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

    You will never find any scriptures of Book of Acts concerning Matthew 28:19 KJV [19] Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

    Because according to the scriptures of Book of Luke 24:30-53 KJV

    [30] And it came to pass, as he sat at meat with them, he took bread, and blessed it, and brake, and gave to them. [31] And their eyes were opened, and they knew him; and he vanished out of their sight. [32] And they said one to another, Did not our heart burn within us, while he talked with us by the way, and while he opened to us the scriptures? [33] And they rose up the same hour, and returned to Jerusalem, and found the eleven gathered together, and them that were with them, [34] Saying, The Lord is risen indeed, and hath appeared to Simon. (Read next comment in Part 7)
  • Firmvictara69 - 3 years ago
    Comment Part 3

    Please keep in mind that there is no where found and written in the Book of Acts about

    Matthew 28:19 KJV [19] Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

    There are the only scriptures found and written in the Book of Acts 1:12-26 KJV

    [12] Then returned they unto Jerusalem from the mount called Olivet, which is from Jerusalem a sabbath day's journey. [13] And when they were come in, they went up into an upper room, where abode both Peter, and James, and John, and Andrew, Philip, and Thomas, Bartholomew, and Matthew, James the son of Alphaeus, and Simon Zelotes, and Judas the brother of James. [14] These all continued with one accord in prayer and supplication, with the women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with his brethren. [15] And in those days Peter stood up in the midst of the disciples, and said, (the number of names together were about an hundred and twenty,) [16] Men and brethren, this scripture must needs have been fulfilled, which the Holy Ghost by the mouth of David spake before concerning Judas, which was guide to them that took Jesus. [17] For he was numbered with us, and had obtained part of this ministry. [18] Now this man purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out. [19] And it was known unto all the dwellers at Jerusalem; insomuch as that field is called in their proper tongue, Aceldama, that is to say, The field of blood. [20] For it is written in the book of Psalms, Let his habitation be desolate, and let no man dwell therein: and his bishoprick let another take. [21] Wherefore of these men which have companied with us all the time that the Lord Jesus went in and out among us, [22] Beginning from the baptism of John, unto that same day that he was taken up from us, must one be ordained to be a witness with us of his resurrection. (Read next comment in Part 4)
  • Firmvictara69 - 3 years ago
    Comment Part 2

    Acts 2:38-40 KJV

    [38] Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. [39] For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call. [40] And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.

    Please notice that there is no where found and written in the Book of Acts about what Jesus was saying to the eleven apostles whom He commanded to do that they must teach and baptize all nations in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost according to the scriptures of Matthew 28:19 KJV [19] Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

    Only Apostle Peter to whom Jesus gave the keys of the kingdom of heaven according to the scriptures of Matthew 16:19 KJV [19] And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. It was Apostle Peter to whom Jesus gave the keys of the kingdom of heaven to bind on earth that shall be bound in heaven, and loose on earth that shall be loosed in heaven according to the scriptures of Matthew 16:17-19 KJV [17] And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-jona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. [18] And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. [19] And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. (Read next comment in Part 3)
  • Firmvictara69 - 3 years ago
    Comment Part 1

    Matthew 28:18-20 KJV

    [18] And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. [19] Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: [20] Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

    Jesus gave the last commission to His eleven apostles before His ascension to the heaven that Jesus claimed to command no body, but only His eleven apostles whom He commanded to do what He was saying, "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen." The commission was given to the eleven apostles only by Jesus Christ the last day of a period of time after the resurrection of Jesus whom had been alive again and seen by the eleven apostles until forty days according to the scriptures of Acts 1:2-3 KJV [2] Until the day in which he was taken up, after that he through the Holy Ghost had given commandments unto the apostles whom he had chosen: [3] To whom also he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God:

    Afterward He was taken up to the heaven, the eleven apostles went back to the upper room at Jerusalem where they were gathered with one hundred and nine disciples that were all numbered with one hundred and twenty disciples together in the paper room, and then ten days later there was appointed to the Day of Pentecost that they were all filled with the Holy Ghost before Apostle Peter started preaching the first message of the salvation to all the Jews, and saying according to the scriptures as it is written in (Read next comment in Part 2)
  • Adam - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hi Rick,

    I agree that quarrelling should be avoided and its best to avoid any "I'm right/you're wrong" discussions, however, there is only one truth. If something is publicly posted that is not truth and might lead someone else to stumble there is an obligation for believers to gently share the truth, in attempt to reverse the damage done.

    So, you wrote: "its not a requirement for spiritual baptism."

    But Jesus said: " John 3:5, Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God."

    "water and of the Spirit"

    Not just Spirit.

    "cannot enter into the kingdom of God"

    And God's Word in Acts 2:38 says: "Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost."

    "be baptized"

    But who, surely not me?

    "every one of you"

    But there's more scripture: Mark 16:16 - He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

    Acts 22:16 - And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

    Matthew 28:19 - Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

    Acts 10:48 - And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.

    Acts 8:36-39 - And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?

    So, if I'm honest with myself, even if I didn't want to be baptized or was taught it wasn't necessary, or was embarrassed, or had any other reasons for not wanting to obey, it would be a very tough sell to read all these verses saying to be baptized and instead claim that we should NOT be baptized.
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 3 years ago
    John 11:55, Mark 14:12, John 6:4, Luke 22:1,

    John 12:1,12,13, John 13:1-2,

    Matthew 27:15,

    1st Sabbath being the Passover feast.

    Exodus 12,

    2nd Sabbath Matthew 28:1,

    Psalms 81:3, also significant Mark 15:33, total solar Eclipse, New moon?

    We should be careful not to follow after traditions set up by men, but Study to understand. Colossians 2:8, Matthew 15:3, Mark 7:9

    Why would Jesus rebuke them over tradition? Because even today it causes doubt, & confusion amongst the church.

    Hopefully these scriptures are helpful. GOD's WORD is truth.

    Tradition is not 100% reliable.
  • Rod - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hi Donna, what you said about loving God, and sending his Son to be crucified for us, and that we are washed in the blood of his salvation is the basic essence of faith.

    Throughout the gospels Jesus is praying to God the Father many times, when he teaches his disciples the Lord's prayer, Matthew 6:9 "After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name."

    when he teaches his disciples the first and great commandment, Matthew 22:36-39 "Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind."

    he also teaches his disciples how they should baptize as in Matthew 28:19 "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:"

    these are but a few examples of how we are taught to pray, the Godhead (Trinity) is explained clearly in 1 John 5:7

    you have no reason to be confused, if someone teaches different they are not teaching what is written in the bible. After Jesus baptism when he was in the wilderness and tempted by the devil he didn't argue, but he did quote scripture, this is why it is so important to read our bible (KJV) on a daily basis, we need to put on the whole armor of God, as in Ephesians 6:11-18, a few years ago I started to read my bible on a daily basis, and now have an inner peace that I never had before. God bless

    Matthew 7:7-8 "Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:" "For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened."
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Luke 1 - 3 years ago
    Luke 8:2, Luke 8:1-4, the whole chapter is relevant actually to point out Jesus love for people deliverance, GOD's nature, Luke 8,

    Mary Magdalene is mentioned: Mark 15:40-47, continues Mark 16:1-14, Matthew 27:55-56 (followed Jesus from Galilee), Matthew 27:59-61, Matthew 28:1-10, Luke 23:49-56 continues Luke 24:1-10,22-24, John 19:25,

    Luke 10:38-42, John 20:1-18,

    * John 11:1-8, John 11:1-45

    * John 12:1-3,

    Luke 7:36-50- Luke 8:1-3, same account?

    John 12,

    Hopefully you enjoy this study.
  • Grace - 3 years ago
    I feel pressured to get baptized in Jesus name which is fine because I love Jesus but I have already been baptized in the name of the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit. I was reading the book of Matthew, and in chapter 28 verse 19 Jesus himself says that we are to be baptized in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. So who do we listen to Peter? Acts 2:38, or Jesus, Matthew 28:19?
  • Grace - 3 years ago
    Can anyone recommend an enlightening discussion on baptism? Why does the Bible say to be baptized in the name of Jesus,

    and then In Matthew 28 Jesus Himself says to be baptized in the name of The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

    Does one trump the other? Or shall I be baptized in both?

    Baptism was right to me from the beginning of my life and I doubt I can ever see that from a different point of view.

    Matthew 28:19

    And and all input welcome but no please if you could answer my specific question that would be super helpful.
  • Jesse - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Peter,

    My understanding is that Jesus rose from the grave in a physical body. He also ascended to heaven in a physical body. John's account of the resurrection shows that the tomb was opened and the linen cloth that was wrapped around Jesus' body was still there, but no body. If He rose in Spirit only, the body would still be there.

    Also, in Matthew Chapter 28, Jesus makes a personal appearance after He rose from the grave. He had to have been in a physical body because Matthew 28:9 tells us that Mary Magdalene and the other Mary actually grabbed Him by the feet. And then we know from what Jesus says to Thomas in John 20:27 that He had to be in a physical body because Jesus told Thomas to touch him. You can't feel spirit.

    But to answer your question about the nature in which He exists right now, whether it be flesh and blood, flesh and bones, or Spirit?

    1 Corinthians 15:50 tells us that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God. We see in Luke chapter 24 that they thought Jesus was a spirit. But Jesus says in Luke 24:39, "Touch me and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see I have." It is interesting that He doesn't say flesh and blood, but flesh and bones. Could the reason for Him saying that be because He shed all His blood at the cross?

    Jesus ascended in bodily form. In Acts 1:11, these two in white apparel said "Ye men of Galilee." Notice that they were called Galileans. I don't know if you are aware of it or not but all of the disciples were Galileans except for Judas. He's the only one that was not a Galilean. He was from the city of Iscariot outside of Galilee. So he's telling them that this same Jesus which is taken up from you into heaven shall so come in like manner as you have seen Him go into heaven.



    So if He was seen ascending into heaven in bodily form, and we are told that He will return in the same manner, I would have to believe that He is now at the right hand of the Father in a flesh/bones/glorified body!
  • Adam - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hi Amelia,

    I noticed you received responses, but none of them actually answered your question.

    The Bible doesn't seem to mention requirements or qualifications of the person doing the baptizing. We can look to examples in the Bible as to WHO was baptizing, and we have John the Baptist and Jesus's disciples. Jesus said to his disciples in Matthew 28:19 calling the to baptize and make disciples.

    I believe the one baptizing should be a Christian at bare minimum, because baptism is an act of Christian faith. And someone baptizing is in a leadership role in my opinion. It would seem hypocritical if the person leading you through a step of faith didn't even believe in it himself. And I believe that person should be at the age of accountability, so the belief is genuine, and not coerced through family or other forces. So, I don't believe a child should baptize anyone for example.

    Finally, there's always someone trying to discredit baptism as if they have a force telling them its bad or as if they're afraid of it, or have some kind of personal animosity against it, or fear of public embarrassment? I think this reaction to a direct instruction from Jesus is a noteworthy reaction in itself.

    Acts 2:38 - this verse is all I need to see in the Bible. People can use lots of words, can twist things, can use unlimited anecdotes, but none of it matters, because I read Acts 2:38 and I know exactly what it says and since I'm serious about following Jesus I was baptized. There's no question I'm doing it. To me, I don't understand anyone trying to rationalize to 'get out of' something, as if they only want to do the bare minimum in following Jesus. I want to give Jesus everything and I don't want to give the devil any foothold. John 14:15 is another 100% clear verse. So, when you put those two verses together the right decision is very obvious.

    God bless...
  • Ronald L Whittemore - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hi Charles,

    I agree with Mishael and S Spencer, the sacrifice of Jesus as the "Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world" replaced all the animal sacrifices and other physical rituals and ceremonies temple rituals and laws for the Aaron priesthood to completion they performed at the Temple of God in Jerusalem.

    If you look at the Feast of the First Fruits will help, Leviticus 23:9-14. Eating any of the grain of the first harvest is not permitted until a sample sheaf is gathered and brought to the Temple at sunrise, the first day after the Sabbath following the Passover Day. This was the same day Jesus resurrected. Jesus ascended the same time the priest was waving the sheaf of grain from the first harvest for acceptance by God.

    When Jesus first ascended to heaven, he presented himself and was accepted by God the First Fruits of them that slept. This explains why Mary Magdalene could not touch Jesus before he ascended because no one could partake of him before God accepted him. This may have been when He placed His own blood in the holy of holies, Hebrews 9:11-17. He came right back down and appeared to the women on their way to tell the disciples Jesus had resurrected, and we see they could touch Him then. Matthew 28:9-10.

    This day is also the first day of counting each day of the seven Sabbaths, the first day after the seventh Sabbath was day 50, The Feast of Weeks, the day we call Pentecost the second harvest. The First Fruits, the shadow of things to come, it came when Jesus resurrected and ascended to the Father. This made it possible for the second harvest in 50 days, Pentecost, the First Fruits of the Spirit.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Matthew 24 - 3 years ago
    If you're asking asking a question please re-word it. It appears you're denying the risen Christ? Matthew 26:32, Mark 14:28,

    Luke 24:6, Luke 24:34, Matthew 28:6, 1 Corinthians 15:20, Mark 16:6, John 21:14, Romans 8:34, Matthew 28:7
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} various washings on Hebrews 9 - 3 years ago
    Hebrews 9:10

    Precious friends, since God is "not the author of Confusion" 1 Corinthians 14:33, Would He not "Have The Biblical Answer" to all The denominational Confusion {I found 10 'Different water baptismal traditions' today...}? Please Be Encouraged And Edified!

    Part 1

    {Borrowed from 12 baptisms "study"} ONE of Israel's various {divers} washings! Greek: Baptismos = Hebrews 9:10:

    4. Levitical priesthood baptism Exodus 29:4 Leviticus 8:6 Numbers 8:7. This washing was The Second Requirement { The First being: "NO blemish!" Leviticus 21:21 }, in order to become a priest under the Law of Moses! Is this baptism in any way connected To baptism # 9?:

    9. "water" baptism of repentance that John preached (Before The Cross), And Peter continued (After The Cross!), to preach! Matthew 3:5-6 Mark 1:4 Luke 3:3 John 1:31 Luke 7:29-30 Acts 10:37 Matthew 28:19 Mark 16:16 Acts 2:38 Acts 22:16 Ezekiel 36:25.

    a) Does this baptism "save" anyone Luke 7:29-30?

    b1) Is this baptism in any way "connected" to baptism # 4?

    b2) Wasn't John preparing National Israel for God's Promise For them "to be a nation of priests unto God" Exodus 19:6?

    b3) Was not The Second Requirement for priesthood induction, Washing? { may require re-review of baptism #4! }.

    b4) Did not CHRIST And The Twelve "heal" everyone in Israel who came to them, in order to meet "The FIRST Requirement" For the priesthood, that Of "NO blemish!"? Matthew 4:24 Acts 5:16 cp Leviticus 21:21

    Semi - conclusion? God {has Not 10 baptismS Today, but ONLY} ONE Baptism = Confusion SOLVED! And "PEACE {Not Confusion} In ALL the churches!" 1 Corinthians 14:33 Amen? Link

    More questions - to be continued in Part 2
  • Adam - In Reply - 3 years ago
    You didn't cite one Bible verse supporting your feelings, I wonder why.

    Just 1 scripture shows whether what you said is true or false:

    John 1:1

    "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

    "...WORD WAS GOD."

    Is Jesus the Word? Yes, John 1:14.

    This verse is like kryptonite to those who don't want to believe in Jesus's divinity, because it leaves no room for creative interpretation. Anti-Jesus folks hate this verse and will perform all kinds of mental gymnastics to try to make it mean something else, but it doesn't work. It already means exactly what it says.

    But is that the only verse saying that Jesus is God? There's more...

    1 John 5:7

    Genesis 1:26

    Genesis 11:6-7

    John 10:30

    John 8:19

    John 1:1

    Philippians 2:5 - 2:8

    2 Corinthians 5:19

    John 1:3

    1 John 5:7

    Matthew 28:19

    1 Peter 1:2

    2 Corinthians 13:14

    Deuteronomy 6:4

    John 14:10

    John 20:28

    1 John 5:8

    1 John 2:22-24

    Isaiah 7:14 - Jesus is called Immanuel which means "God with us"

    Matthew 1:23-25

    Hebrews 1:8 "But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom."
  • Bro dan - In Reply on 1 Corinthians 12 - 3 years ago
    Brother Mishael,

    Amen! Jesus Christs words are EVERLASTING!

    John 3:5

    "Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God."

    Matthew 24:35

    "Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away."

    Matthew 28:18-20

    18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

    19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

    20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

    In summary: Jesus tells the apostles to TEACH ALL NATIONS, very important - ALL NATIONS. Some teaching false doctrine will state that the above scripture is directed at Israel only - NOT SO!!!!!

    ALL NATIONS - means all people all over this EARTH!

    God Bless!
  • Carleton - 3 years ago
    Christian Greetings!

    For we ourselves also were sometimes foolish, disobedient, serving divers lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful, and hating one another.

    But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared,

    Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

    Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;

    That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.

    This is a faithful saying, and these things I will that thou affirm constantly, that they which have believed in God might be careful to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable unto men.

    Titus 3:1-9

    And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon the twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

    Matthew 19:28

    Ye shall not do after all the things that we do this day, every man whatsoever is right in his own eyes. For ye are not as yet come to the rest and to the inheritance, which the LORD your God giveth you.

    Deuteronomy 12:8-9

    While he yet spake, behold a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.

    Matthew 17:5

    And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

    Matthew 28:18-20

    He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

    Mark 16:16

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  • David on 2 Chronicles 29 - 3 years ago
    The subject of the pre - trib "rapture" has been discussed even from the first century church. Proper research will show that Ephraem The Syrian spoke about this subject in one of his sermon's entitled "On the Last Times, the Anti-christ, and the End of the World" in 373AD. A translation of the sermon includes the following segment:

    "For all the saints and Elect of God are gathered, prior to the tribulation that is to come, and are taken to the Lord lest they see the confusion that is to overwhelm the world because of our sins."

    The rest of the sermon deals with the events of the last days, starting with the rapture, the Great Tribulation of 3 1/2 years under the Anti-christ's rule, then the second coming of the Lord Jesus Christ.

    I believe in the pre-trib rapture, but I will be the first to say that this does not prove that it is correct, but just to clarify that the view of the pre-trib rapture is not a new subject to the church as many would believe. God bless everyone in your service to the Lord Jesus. Most important is for us to carry out is Matthew 28:18-20.
  • Mishael - In Reply on Matthew 28:19 - 3 years ago
    Love your comment. Keep coming back.
  • Hannah Sandoval on Matthew 28:19 - 3 years ago
    I love thinking about Matthew chapter 28 verse 19 i love their story from bible is God's word in the bible i love God he's is my important God we love him he made us and made me Jesus he die on cross shed of blood we pray i pray for God for loving us he's in my heart he will listen to me and everyone guide you and guide me for taxing other people he's waiting for me when i die see Jesus in heaven is real life is real is not joking i'm truth of life God sent to me i'm only one i say i'm truth of life truth is telling you truth come to me you need telling the truth from John verse 14 is I am the way of the truth no comes to my father but by me truth of life I'm here i'm am truth of life God made me he did sent to me just me you need pray for God and his people from heaven i love God I love Jesus and i love Holy Spirt. Any questions from me i'm here your questions.

    From Hannah Sandoval


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