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Please note these scriptures all seem to include treatment of people : James 2, note James 2:1-6, James 2:8, * James 2:14,15,16,17,

Matthew 25:31-46, Isaiah 58, John 13:34, Romans 12:10, Romans 13:8, 1Peter 3:8, Hebrews 10:24,

Romans 4, notice in those 'works' it's speaking of circumcision Romans 4:1, Romans 4:9-13, not acts of compassion

They don't contradict each other they're completely separate issues, Deuteronomy 10:16-20,

Malachi 3:5,10 = Deuteronomy 26:10-13 , Exodus 22:22, Deuteronomy 14:22-29, Deuteronomy 24:14-15, Deuteronomy 24:19-21,

Matthew 5:16-20, Matthew 7:12-27 = Mark 12:38-40, Mark 23, Luke 20:46,47, Isaiah 9:17,

Hopefully helpful

Hi BSP.

You have a lot to offer and we thank you for that, but have you thought about fitting much of that on one post or one thread so some of the other post can stay on the 1st page a little longer? It makes browsing a lot easier.

Not a demand. Thanks and God bless.

Verse 45-God is so good and generous towards all people. He provides rain and sunshine even for those who do not acknowledge Him or those who act wickedly.

Matthew 5:13 Ye represent the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost its savour, wherewith shall it be salted [by men]? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot by men.

Job 6:6 Can that which is unsavoury be eaten without salt? or is there any taste in the white of an egg?

Son, Daughter of GOD: John 1:12, 1John 3:1,2, Matthew 5:9, context Matthew 5, Matthew 13:38, John 12:36, Luke 12:32, context Luke 12,

Romans 8:14, in context please read all of Chapter Romans 8, explanation of the answer of your question in detail.

Hopefully these are all helpful

Jesus' prayer: John 17, note; John 17:15,17,18,20,23,

Matthew 5:14,16, in context Matthew 5,

2Corinthians 1:3-5, 1Thessalonians 5:11,14, in context 1Thessalonians 5,

Hopefully these help with your question of why

Hi Emmanuel. During Jesus' days on Earth, there were three Herods: Herod the Great, Herod Archelaus, & Herod Antipas.

Herod the Great (73 B.C. to 4 B.C.) was not a Jew - his father an Idumean and his mother Arabian. The Roman government had made him king of Judea in 40 B.C. Although Herod was a great builder (including his extension of the temple) and had been occasionally generous to the Jewish people, he eventually lost favour with them. His mixed lineage with his Edomite blood would have made him unacceptable to the people & he would have been looked upon as they did with the Romans.

Archelaus was his eldest son who ruled over Judea, Samaria & Idumea, but his other son, Antipas, ruled over Galilee.

Who is king Herod

Matthew 5:19, Romans 14:13, Mark 9:42,

It's not judged by years: Luke 23:34-43, Matthew 13, 1Peter 2:2, Hebrews 5:12,13,14,

Exodus 4:12, Deuteronomy 4, Deuteronomy 5:31, Deuteronomy 6:7, Matthew 5:19, 1Timothy 4:11,

2Timothy 2:15, Jeremiah 1:7,

Why do you ask? I hope these help answer the root question

Hi Sheyibrown.

Scripture agrees with what Luke has spoken.

For one the law wasn't given to Gentiles it was given to Israel. I wasn't given to JUSTIFY anyone for salvation.

Galatians 5:4. "Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; YE ARE FALLEN FROM GRACE."

Here's a few scriptures to study:

Please don't just read these Scriptures, Study them!! These are very important Scriptures that is ignored by some. Understanding these scriptures can help keep one from being deceived atleast in this area anyway.

Galatians 3:1-29.

Galatians Ch 4 and 5.

2 Corinthians 3:6-14.

Also study.

Hebrews 8:1-13 and

Hebrews 9:1-28.

It's interesting what you will find in Hebrews when ministering the first covenant. It WASN'T about just being obedient to the 10 commandments, There were services that had to be performed to extreme precision.

There was the high priest that ministered THOSE services under THAT covenant in a WORLDLY sanctuary. The services had to be rendered perfectly but they couldn't make you perfect. They had no effect on the heart of man. Men heart is incurably wicked. The new covenant where Christ is the High priest He came to give you a new Heart and the REST that the old covenant couldn't give. Because no one could keep or be justified by the old covenant.

Why is it that those who desire to add their means of justifying themselves they choose what they think is the easiest to do and not realize in their lusty heart they break the commandments.

James 2:10.

Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:

But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart. Matthew 5:27-28.

Study those chapters.

God bless.

A few possible verses:

Isaiah 9:6

Luke 24:27

Matthew 5:17-18

2 Corinthians 1:20

Romans 10:4

James,

Perhaps Matthew 5:17-20?

When we look at the concept of "planting and watering" it appears that the verse on sowing and reaping comes to mind in John 4:38 where they were "reaping what they had not worked for". This shows not only Christ sowing the seed but those who were co laborers (in this case the woman who had been living in adultery and the townspeople that discussed matters and made their own decision that Christ was indeed the promised Messiah.

What is noteworthy here are two concepts that can be illustrated starting in verse 10. Those who do the watering AND the sowing are not to be lifted up in any prideful manner. Christ was to be exalted; not Paul or Apollos as being the "better" teacher. Also; those doing the watering share in the reward which is often neglected with evangelistic campaigns today that don't continue afterwards with proper discipleship particularly with indigenous pastors on the ground today; or with crusades in the USA recently.

The famous passage about the Bema Seat in verse 15 appears tied in with the watering aspect; and seems to give further indication in the verses following that sin indeed causes burning up and loss. Many seem to say it means simply neutral actions that have no value such as activities done in church that aren't meaningful. It seems perfectly clear here that it indicates sin; and that which can damage others. I would refer to Matthew 5:19 as a cross reference here. It is clear from verse 16 also that events such as 1 Cor. 11:27 and 1 Cor. 5:5 serve as examples as well in the same book. Finally see Rev. 3:11. Losing a reward is a serious matter.

Jesus always spoke of his Father in Heaven.

Matthew 16:17

And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in HEAVEN.

[not in Rome]

Matthew 23:9

And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in HEAVEN.

Mark 13:32

But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.

Matthew 5:16

Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father

WHICH IS IN HEAVEN.

Some Blood of Jesus scripture references:

Hebrews 10:19 and 13:12; Ephesians 2:13

1 John 1:7 and 1 John 5:6

Matthew 16:17

I do not want to offend. The Pope, nor any priest of the Catholic Church should be called Father.

God is a consuming fire.

As long as we keep those facts straight, we are ok. The council of Nicea, adopted the King James Bible for all faiths to use.

The way things are going, in the World, now: is a good time to be following Jesus.

Recently, the Pope went to Israel and counseled them to give the West Bank to the Palestinians.

In the Book of Genesis, God made a Covenant through Abraham concerning the Lands of Israel; which includes Jerusalem. The Final wars of mankind will be over Who Owns Israel.

If you don't have a Bible, there is a full Bible on this Website, plus Commentarie.

Hi Barb, I don't think it must be one or the other.

The Bible is full of metaphors to explain things like our relationship to God. I see T. Levis shared scriptures for "sons", so I'll share different ones:

Be like children:

Matthew 18:3

Romans 8:17

Galatians 4:6

Be people and sheep:

Psalms 100:3

John 10:11

Jeremiah 50:6

We're clay:

Isaiah 64:8

We're branches:

John 15:5

We're salt:

Matthew 5:13

I'm sure there's more.

Dear Sandra,

I have a different opinion than the others who responded here.

Jesus's first miracle was turning water to wine and that was an alcoholic drink. We know this because of John 2:10 mentioning possibility to get drunk from it.

With that being said this poses a great danger to us and can be abused like many other things, like food (gluttony), additions (strongholds, idolatry, putting false gods before God), prescription drugs, sexuality, etc. Those who have self-control challenges and tend to become easily addicted should avoid this at all costs. Remember Matthew 5:30, this should be balanced with 1 Timothy 4:4.

Maybe its like enjoying a fire but if you get lured in too close you can be badly burned.

Matthew 5:1-17 (KJV) And seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain: and when he was set, his disciples came unto him:

And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying,

Blessed are the poor in spirit: for their's is the kingdom of heaven.

Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.

Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.

Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.

Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.

Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.

Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.

Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for their's is the kingdom of heaven.

Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.

Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.

Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.

Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.

Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.

Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.

Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill

The Holiness of God.

Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty ( Rev. 4:8). This aspect of the Lord which should characterize our daily praise was a topic a friend of mine from out of town who I'm visiting next week brought up. He; as I am is highly supportive of the "grace gospel" (i.e. God's sovereign plan of election giving no credit toward man for any of his own righteousness in being saved). It is true; however that many of our houses of worship are more caught up in an academic exercise when it comes to the "institutes of Calvin" than spending a time worshipping a Holy God who condescended to save any worms like me. ( Job 25:6). He; who is the creator of all things is above all; so that even the stars are impure in His sight ( Job 25:5).

There are truly heavenly joys that we cannot comprehend now. ( Psalm 16:11). Everyone; from Daniel and Isaiah and Ezekiel in the O.T. and John in Revelation fall in awe and wonder at His presence. It is a true statement that God is love ( 1 John 4:8); but we need to view this in light of 1 Cor. 13:4-8. We must; therefore also see His grace along with His judgments in light of His righteousness; and eternal omnipotence as the King of Kings; Lord of Lords. God does not change; and if we remain in Him we shall never be moved (see Proverbs 10:30). Heaven and earth will perish before one "jot and tittle" of the law perish ( Matthew 5:18). Since this is New Testament; surely this refers to the true meaning of the law and the motives of our hearts.

May we; although flawed be characterized by a unique reverence for God so we can be known as just men ( Matthew 1:19). To be salt and light; we must be distinct from the world and through the fear of the Lord comes the beginning of understanding ( Prov. 1:7; 9:10; etal). If we put to death the deeds of the flesh through the Spirit ( Colossians 3:5; Romans 8:13) then we can let His Spirit transform us ( Romans 12:2). Let us begin each day with praise. Agape; Rich P

The shrinks like to say we get angry because we are afraid. The issue often is when we know something to be right; and people don't listen to what we say. There are also cases where we want something we can't have or are retaliating to someone else's bad behavior.

With anything else; it helps to look at the scriptures and meditate on them day and night ( Joshua 1:8). Obviously; we need to ask the Holy Spirit to remove things that would be roots of bitterness ( Hebrews 12:14-16). The evidence of bad fruit from a corrupt heart is found in the gospels ( Matt. 15:19). Other verses such as 1 Peter 2:1-2 and Ephesians 4:26-32 offer further advice.

I hope you will trust the Lord for these changes; not yourself. I found that after the anger that came from a contentious divorce after my wife had an affair was dealt with by much prayer; and counselling based on a study in the Book of James. (see James 1:19). God can and will give you unconditional love even toward your enemies. That was how I was able to forgive my dad after years of mental abuse; by telling him that I loved him. It is helping me having to live with him now.

Agape..Rich P

I want pray about change my ways an be better person

Instead of arguing getting mad angry all the the time

The gift of faith

This is perhaps the hardest to explain; although any one else's interpretation would be helpful. I have understood this to mean an unusually strong unction to believe in answers to prayer and in all circumstances trusting God. It would certainly seem that with any other gift maturity and Godly living as well as trying to heed to God's voice could accomplish growth in faith; at least in general. This probably is better understood with itinerant missionaries with limited communications with the outside world; limited funds; resources and food supply available.

The balance has to be with the fact that some individuals CLEARLY have closer; more intimate communication with God; who blesses them so that "men can praise God for their good works" ( Matthew 5:16) while others have the tenacity to seek after Him through persistent prayer. The problem that can arise in BOTH cases is when we get caught up with ourselves. Should a ministry name itself after someone; or an individual be put on a larger than life status then surely that pride leads us to a fall.

Therefore; as with any giftings we all need each other. It is for edification of the Body; hence one person can clearly see how to pray and what to pray; but another has a much clearer picture of the person being lifted up knowing them personally who can shed further light on a situation. So someone mature in faith must be open to someone else praying who the Spirit moves as well as vice versa.

There is also the case of those who are tares among the wheat. If there are those who expouse false doctrines; or are living a lifestyle of unrepentant sin; we are asked if they claim to be Christins not to even sit and eat with them. ( 1 Cor. 5:11). I would say emphatically that we should NOT ask them to pray for us and if they ask politely decline. The demons that are controlling them no doubt will attempt to influence us to follow the same paths to destruction.

Mercy as a spiritual gift

"Blessed are the pure in heart; for they shall see God." ( Matthew 5:8). Christ certainly gave us the perfect example; of mercy and compassion as His concern for the multitudes superseded His own stresses over His impending death; the unbelief of the 12 disciples; the constant threats of the Pharisees; and His jealousy for God's name. He couldn't even get a break when going to a desert place after John was beheaded to grieve with the disciples. Christ surely did all that He was called to do; without ever holding back. Part of this ministry also was deliverance; in caring for those who were in some sense in prison ( Isaiah 42:7).

Souls were ultimately; of course saved so as to secure eternal forgiveness which none of us as sinners deserved.

I; for one am sorely lacking in this gift; and am pleased to have a few brothers and sisters put that gift in display in my lifetime.

One important aspect which separates such individuals from those with a naturally kind disposition (pretty rare today anyway) is PRAYER; particularly spontaneous when such individuals become aware of the needs of others in that capacity. These individuals; also I would highly recommend to have in your prayer circles for when they are walking properly with Jesus they are likely to have an unusually successful prayer life for the simple reason that they have no barricades like many others (as myself) that tend not to have their whole hearts in it. Of course the mind also should participate in prayer. It is often said these individuals as with any others gifted in a certain area have common weaknesses. That weakness would tend to be too easily emotionally manipulated when taking their spiritual eyes off what the Lord desires them to pay attention to and focus on merely human emotions which can be deceptive and fickle. Such individuals in particular need to be grounded in the Word; as they tend often not to be as discerning as they should be.

I believe most of the answers on this subject are found in 1 Corinthians chapter 7, Tiffany. Here, the Apostle Paul writes about problems within a marriage, which should hopefully be dealt with by a temporal separation & then a coming together (v5); or in divorce, that they remain unmarried, or else come back together (vv 10,11); or in a marriage where one is a believer & the other, not. Divorce can take place if one is unhappy to live with the other - but the idea of remaining single thereafter is implied (vv 12-16).

And this is based on Matthew 19:5,6: "For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder."

Any marriage, whether amongst believers or not, brings about an indissoluble union, as the two become one. If a divorce has to take place, then they have to remain separated. If they remarry, then they would remain accountable to God for their decisions. It seems the only times that a lawful remarriage can take place are when one spouse dies ( 1 Corinthians 7:39), or because of fornication committed ( Matthew 5:31,32). However, this 'fornication' seems to be based on Deuteronomy 24:1, where "uncleanness is found in her", i.e. it is supposed that the man has found that his wife was not pure, whether occurring in her single state or in the betrothal period, or even after marriage. Some have raised arguments about this understanding; and some take this infidelity by the woman to happen only within the marriage, so giving grounds for divorce. Unfortunately, there's no indication what happens when the husband has been unfaithful. In any case, the general understanding is that divorce is a severing of a holy union, and if it must happen, then remaining unmarried thereafter ensures that no sin is committed.

I know a lot of C.I.N.O.'s (Christians-in-name-only) who warm a pew on Sunday and then go out and sin the rest of the week.

I have a friend who is a big fan of that show Supernatural. It's as demonic as a show can get.

I have another friend who is into those "boy-love" novels and videos.

I have another friend who goes bar-hopping. They all believe in Jesus. They're sure they're "saved". This is the problem with a lot of "Born-Again" Christians. They misunderstand that we don't get to have it both ways.

Would Jesus wink at this wickedness and say, "Aw, go on. Have fun. I'll still forgive you. Just make sure to repent when you've had your fill." I don't think so.

They see nothing wrong with filling their minds with unwholesome nonsense. They really need to do some soul-searching and pray and ask God for forgiveness and turn away from those things.

Matthew 5:29

"And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell."

What Jesus meant (and correct me if I'm wrong) is that sometimes we will have to turn away from, cast off, throw away certain things (material things, ideas, relationships) and it will be as painful as plucking out your eye.

Speaking for myself, I smoked for 40+ years. I liked to smoke but I knew it wasn't pleasing to God so wanted to give it up.

I prayed, begged, apologized and asked for a Divine Intervention to quit.

God answered that prayer.

I went through no withdrawal, had no more cravings and suffered no ill effects. If I had to quit by my own strength, I would have never made it.

I look at what's going on in this world and cringe when I see/understand how badly we have all been deceived. Things we thought were normal or harmless fun were not edifying at all.

Jeremiah 3:1, Deuteronomy 24:1-4, Matthew 5:32,

Hopefully these are helpful

Jesus is the Good News. You can repent and be born again. John 3.

Matthew 5:27-37 on marriage and divorce. Take a look at 1 Corinthians 7:8-15; Malachi 3:15-16

Marriage is a VOW MADE BEFORE GOD. The problems in your life are because you don't know how binding a vow is. It would be good for you to make an appointment at a Church that offers counseling. They're not going to condemn you. You will understand the seriousness of the vow.

John 4:

16 Jesus saith unto her, Go, call thy husband, and come hither.

17 The woman answered and said, I have no husband. Jesus said unto her, Thou hast well said, I have no husband:

18 For thou hast had five husbands; and he whom thou now hast is not thy husband: in that saidst thou truly.

Comment: Jesus knows all of our life's story. He didn't condemn her. He showed her a better way to live.

Ephesians 5:33 - Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence (honor) her husband.

My counsel for happiness: wed a Christian man. Genesis chapter 24 is the best love story written.

The Book of Ruth has a happy ending too.

Mishael

Golden candlestick: Zechariah 4:2-6, Proverbs 20:27,

Exodus 25:31,32, placement, Exodus 26:35, Leviticus 24:4, Hebrews 9:1-28,

Jeremiah 52:19,

Matthew 5:14-16,

Revelation 1:12-20, Revelation 2:1-5, Revelation 11:3-4, Revelation 22,

Hopefully these are helpful in your study

According to Christ; "His sheep hear His voice." ( John 10:27). 2 Tim. 2:24-26 indicate that repentance indeed is a gift from God.

The basic premise is that we are all "children of wrath" by nature under condemnation apart from Christ. ( Eph. 2:3). If we cannot understand that man's heart is estranged from God; and that at best we try to avoid the consequences of sin rather than have any true remorse for offending a Holy; righteous and just God then we simply are living out a works based theology. Titus 1:15 shows further how our best actions are contaminated and defiled.

Human love only shows true affection for those who love us ( Matthew 5:46-48). To love those who "despitefully use us" ( Matthew 5:44) takes a change of heart; a Divine intervention and infusion of the Holy Spirit again which is given by God ( Ezekiel 36:26).

From OUR perspective we see ourselves drawn to the one from all eternity who created all things. ( Ecclesiastes 3:11). This verse shows again how even THIS is instigated in man's conscience by God. We need to realize that there is a process involved; as the parable of the seed and the sowers indicates. The seed from God (again planted on His initiative) is introduced; and ultimately must progress until "fruit is produced" (see also Matthew 3:8). TRUE repentance will overcome temptations that the Lord uses to prune us; as He "chastises all those He loves" ( Heb. 12:6; etc). God therefore initiates salvation; and the whole sanctification process ultimately leading to glorification ( Romans 8:17).

When we are saved; we have new desires to serve God and rejoice in the thought of service to Him now and in eternity. We begin a process of mortification of the deeds of the flesh ( Romans 8:13). From our perspective; we need to accept the truth about ourselves and our utter hopelessness apart from Christ in our own strength. The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom ) Proverbs 9; Psalm 111; etc). Jeremiah 32:40 shows God gives that

Hi Wanda

I used to have similar questions in the past, it's not easy, but we need to trust scripture, and as Suze had a great reply in that we should read the bible and use Jesus life and teachings as our perfect example, especially for what he did for us on the cross.

These are only a few verses that have brought comfort to me to help keep my life in perspective.

Philippians 2:5-11 "Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:"

Matthew 5:3-12 "Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven."

Luke 23:34 "Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots."

Romans 12:16-21 "Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord. Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head. Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good."

God Bless