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I submitted a question a few weeks ago. So far I've haven't received an answer. I believe the question was, Does Revelation.1:7 indicate that the world is flat and not round?

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What a chapter, Sez

much in so little.

Hello Annetta,

I totally agree with you on the word "debt" or "debtors" used in the our Fathers prayer. Making you kind of think it's of monetary matters. As when I pray to our Fathers I state "Forgive us of all our sins, trespasses, and iniquities". As my heart, and the Holy Spirit, have lead me to say this instead of just "debts" as is written.

The thing is that the KJV Bible from 1611 originally had the words "debt" and "debtors" in the prayer. Link The Greek word is "opeheilema" with the Strongs definition of "something owed that is (figuratively) a due .; morally a fault".

Then right after the prayer in Matthew 6:14-15 it states about forgiving others their "trespasses". The word for "trespasses" is another Greek word "paraptoma" with the Strongs definition "a side slip (lapse or deviation) that is (unintentional) error or (wilful) transgression". Also to be known as a sin or misdeed. The other Greek word can also be taken as sin or offense.

I agree with you about how using the word "debt" in the prayer doesn't really feel right. Although that was the original word used from the year 1611 in the KJV Bible.

Hope that helps clear up that the KJV Bible has not been changed. God Bless.

Tuesday, February 16, 2021

On Matthew 6:12 - why do you say debt and debtor and no longer trespass and trespasses? "Forgive us of our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us," has meaning and inspiration. It inspires someone (like me) to really think of what it means to keep holding onto bad thoughts or grudges against another while I am asking God to forgive me. How can I ask for forgiveness when I am not giving it? Trespass/trespasses causes me to open my heart and mind and to seek to love others as Christ loves me. Whereas, the words "debts and debtors" inspire me to think of monetary matters. As Jesus tells us "money is the root of all evil," I find myself dismayed and turned off by any Bible which has removed trespass and replaced it with debt. It is especially hurtful to see this happen in a King James Bible. I was holding out hope that with all the false teachings and false Bibles in the world today, the King James Bible would remain true to the word of God.

Sheila,

"I'm in need of learning to pray better " What is lacking in your prayers? I spoke once with a brother in Christ who said

he didn't know enough of the Bible to pray better. What he meant was, he didn't remember passages verbatim, with book, chapters and verses. As Christ taught us, a prayer is not a repitition of words( Matthew 6:7). Even what the Lord said is disregarded in that some people repeat his words as a prayer itself. Instead Jesus spoke of a manner of prayer, in which he spoke of the matters on his heart. Therein is what God wants to hear from us, the matters on our heart. I hear you saying you do that already, what more would make your prayers better?

Chuck the "dynamite teacher" has been an encouragement to you and we all have someone who has taught us in the things of God. Their words and mannerisms stick with us as a vital part of our learning. It is great to be on the receiving side of people who have dug out the gems in the mine of God's word. As we grow in grace we should be miners ourselves and in our turn pass on gems, you can and will also. Your prayer for God to touch us with his love and grant us comfort and peace is very much appreciated, thank you sister. I will remember you in prayer also as a dear sister in Christ who prays from her heart.

You're welcome Mark, May God bless you in your spiritual growth.

Thank you so much for replying to comment i greatly appreciate it and I'm still learning and trying to learn more everyday as I've recently gave my life to the lord

Hi Mark.. Revelation 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. Isaiah 65:17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind. This should be what you're looking for, and there is several more scriptures on this.

Dose the earth really come to a end ond day for all. Like will the earth as we know it disappear?

Yes Johnny, you've understood this verse well. The point was that if we are genuinely concerned for another (whether a homeless person, a minister of God's Word, a poor friend or relative), we will do it quietly, even inconspicuously, because our motive is from love & that the praise from that needy person, goes to the Lord for touching some heart to help another one out. By alerting others to our 'good, generous acts of love' may indicate a false or dual motive for giving, to which the Lord says that you will not receive the praise of God.

Though I think that from your experience the Lord's sees your conviction over this matter & the lesson you've learned, so that God's blessings will be multiplied to you for your consideration of others in the future. Blessings.

So, in verses one and two he is basically saying 'don't do charity to the poor just to increase your public image in front of your peers.' right? So, if you want to donate to the homeless don't go around tooting your own horn (bragging or boasting) to get people to think you're a good guy.

If so, then I am already falling short of God's glory. I did a good deed a while back and I went and told almost everyone about it. I suppose I should repent for this. Great lesson Jesus gave here.

Jesus says that we will live in Heaven if we gladly get executed for him.

. . . Does that mean that we actually have to get persecuted?

"For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also." Matthew 6:21 {KJV} Something to ponder about...

Rebecca, may the Spirit grace you with his understanding.

Most things in God's word have to be discerned by applying multiple scriptures and all applied against:

1 John 2:27 But the anointing (Holy Ghost in you) which ye have received (by grace) of him (Holy Ghost) abideth in you, and you NEED NOT THAT ANY MAN TEACH YOU; but as the same anointing (the Holy Ghost) teacheth you ALL things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it (the Holy Ghost) hath taught you, ye shall abide (become one) in him (the Holy Ghost).

Ephesians 4:21 If so be that ye have HEARD him (the Holy Ghost), and have been taught by him (the Holy Ghost), as the truth is in Jesus (THE WORD OF GOD).

Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by HEARING, and HEARING by the WORD OF GOD (studying, meditating).

The scriptures were written by men under the influence of the Holy Ghost.

Revelation 19:10 .... for the testimony (words) of Jesus (THE WORD) is the spirit of prophecy.

2 Peter 1:21 For prophecy came.....as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

Now to your question, what does it mean to blaspheme the Holy Ghost. Since the WORD (truth) was written by the Holy Ghost, you blaspheme when you call his WORD a lie. Example:

1 Timothy 2:3-4 For this is GOOD AND ACCEPTABLE in the sight of God our Saviour; who WILL HAVE all men to be saved, and come to the KNOWLEDGE of the truth.

Matthew 6:10 Thy kingdom come, thy WILL BE DONE in earth, as it (HIS WILL) is in heaven.

1 Timothy 4:10-11 .....who is the SAVIOUR OF ALL MEN, specially those that BELIEVE.

(vs) 11 These things COMMAND AND TEACH.

Psalm 22:27 ALL the ends of the world shall REMEMBER and TURN unto the LORD: and ALL KINDREDS OF THE NATIONS SHALL WORSHIP BEFORE THEE.

1 Corinthians 15:28 And when ALL THINGS shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him (Father) that put ALL THINGS under him (Son) that GOD MAY BE ALL IN ALL.

WE all blaspheme on our journey to TRUTH just REPENT and TURN to the new found TRUTH.

Hello, animals don't have souls. They don't make moral decisions about right and wrong, they don't sin, and Jesus didn't die to save ticks, flies, amoebas, corona virus, and rattlesnakes. We are more valuable than animals: Matthew 6:26. We were made in God's image: Genesis 1:27. Scorpions and hammerhead sharks weren't made in God's image. Those who claim otherwise are not reading the Bible first to understand what it means. Instead they are believing what they WANT to believe then cherrypicking certain verses, distorting and twisting them to try to match as close to what they want to believe as they can.

We want a lot of things, and they are usually centered on US, or ourselves. God is really trying to open our view to look at others and pray for the needs of others. It is a scientifically proven fact that people gain more when giving than receiving. Sharing what is in our hearts is what he truly wants to hear.

Hello hi i understand that you mentioned you were new to God's word. how amazing to want to know God's word as well to know him for yourself. hi my name is LaShun my condolences to you for the loss of your Loved one. I happen to be on this page as i was browsing through i came across your comment. if you have a bible like to Encourage you to read matthew 6:33 seek ye first the kingdom of God and his righteousness; and the book of proverbs 6:23 For the commandment is a lamp; and the law is light and the reproofs of instruction are the way of life. i just wanted to encourage you that whatever you need help God will help you i know you maybe saying this is not nearly close to answering your [question] i know but if you search the scriptures you will everything you need to know. I added these books, and scriptures to help you know God's Commandments. when you wanted know if you commit murder (suicide) the same i pointed out what the book of Exodus God's Commandment says. Exodus 20:13 say Thou shalt not kill it says the same in the book of Deuteronomy 5:17 Thou shalt not kill so whether you kill yourself, or someone. The Ten Commandments clearly points what we should not do. you find read Exodus 20:1-17 God's Ten commandments are in the book of Deuteronomy 5:7-21 to share that with you. my prayer's are with you and love your ones. ask God in prayer to lead you and guide you to all understanding whatever it is that you are going through he will. comfort your heart matthew 5:4 Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted God blessed. Happy new year

Hi Patricia,

You wrote "she says my one daughter says" which sounds like hearsay. It's best to hear something directly from a person so you know it's not changed through another person. So I would not make any judgments or worry unless you hear from that person directly. Everyone has beliefs and everyone has a religion in my opinion. Christianity is a religion. People claiming to be woke or progressive will pretend it's not a religion but a relationship, but those are not mutually exclusive terms. It is both. Atheism is also a religion. Atheists put their faith in unproved, never witnessed theories to explain their existence. Some of them put their hope and faith in other men- who are atheist scientists like them. Some put their hope and faith in government, which is why some cry and burn down cities when they don't get their way, acting like a spoiled 4 year old. Some pursue and worship idols, money, power, fame. Matthew 6:19-21

Disappointment comes to all of us as we remain in hope that something we've planned for or what has been told us, fails to materialize. It is an unnerving experience that can render some people quite helpless, but God is there for times such as these.

Romans 12:2 says it this way: "And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God." Even though we generally understand this verse warning the believer not to behave as the unsaved world does & adopt a new way of thinking, it also has implications to the believer not to conform to the world that sets its hope on the finite & material aspects of it, rather than putting faith in the God Who knows & does all things well.

The believer does at times suffer disappointments, but ought to immediately look heavenward & commit himself & those matters to the Lord Who will bring it to pass in His Time, & generally in a manner above what we could have expected or planned for.

Some other Scriptures to reflect upon: Philippians 4:6,7; Romans 8:28; Jeremiah 29:11; Psalm 73:23-26; Psalm 121:1-8; Psalm 42:11; Matthew 6:33; Proverbs 3:5,6; 1 Peter 5:6,7; John 14:27; Hebrews 13:5. And many more, to show us there is comfort & help as we wait upon the Lord with our concerns & disappointments in this life.

Matthew 6:9-13; Luke 11:1-4 (in part).

The Apostle James, in this chapter, is condemning the rich, as those who made it their god & used it unwisely for their own benefit & pleasure, rather than for the blessing of others & proper payment to their workers. Their riches were consumed upon their own lusts: lusts for living in carnal pleasures & for high, extravagant living. They "nourished their hearts": this paints the picture of over-indulgence, or fattening themselves, as one does for an animal being prepared for eventual slaughter. Such animals were specially looked after, not worked, only lived in quietness with plenty of good grain to feed on. This resembled these 'rich' men as those fatted contented 'cows' who one day have as their only destiny, their complete demise & destruction.

To find a direct meaning of James 5:5 may not be possible because of the Greek text. However, you could consider the following Scriptures that show a person who lives for self-indulgence or self-gratification to the casting aside of the things of God & holy living.

Ecclesiastes 2:1-11; Philippians 2:17-19; Proverbs 23:20,21; Ephesians 5:15-19; 1 Corinthians 6:12,13; Matthew 6:19-21.

Food & Rainment. God/Christ only states He will provide food & raiment. Apostle Paul as well ( 1st Timothy 6:8)

1st Epistle of Peter is written and starts out stating "to the strangers scattered" throughout... Why?

This is not our world. Jesus states in the Gospel of John 14:3 that He has gone to prepare a place for us and is coming back to receive us to Himself. Again, this is not our home.

Bless you what it is saying is that you don't get so consumed in these thing that you don't seek God's kingdom in your life. Jesus got up great while before day and went into a solitary place and prayed before he started his day off. You have to seek personal needs such as food clothes and shelter. Daniel work was a great man and he put God first. Put God first and he will make sure you have the means to get what you need. Consider What I Say and the Lord Give You Understanding. Stay blessed!

It is a little more complex. What Jesus is saying is God is the great provider. And he is commissioning those to go out and perform God's work. It is not that we should not pursue our personal needs but that God will provide for his children just like he provides for nature. He gives us the ability to work to purchase the things we need. He gives us knowledge to be good stewards of the money we have. Everything we need, God already knows. If we become financially hindered due to the loss of work, God knows and already has a plan for us. We have to listen and use the knowledge and understanding given to us through the word and through prayer. If we are living for God, we will not go hungry..(it may be peanut butter sandwiches) but we will have food. We will have shelter..and we will have clothes.

Psalms 37:25

I have been young, and now am old; yet have I not seen the righteous forsaken, nor his seed begging bread.

I read Mathew 6 to say we should not pursue our personal needs, (food; shelter;housing)..Am I not understanding this..?

In His parable, Jesus was pointing out that a person's heart is either towards God or to mammon (money, goods, pleasures) - Matthew 6:24. This man had no concern for God or God's requirements & indeed his own afterlife - his focus was on himself & to enjoy what he had accomplished by his own hands, constantly watching his wealth becoming even greater in the passing years.

Had he given God the first place rather than himself, it would have demonstrated that even with his bountiful harvests & substance, he would have acknowledged that it was God Who blessed him with these things, he would have also given of his substance to the needy around him & his own faith & love for God would have increased. I believe, in the Old Covenant economy, this rich man could have been wise in God's Eyes & not foolish, & would have been accepted by God as a man of faith & love for the people around him. Rather than being a self-centred rich 'fool', he would have been a people-centric wise man who was rich towards God having a heart towards God & not self.

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That was sad to read of the comment by the ex-military man from Pakistan; such is the hate of those opposed to the Gospel & claims of Christ. You did well to block him, though I hope that you have since then also blocked cigarette smoke from filling you. Your body is God's Temple ( 1 Corinthians 6:19) where His Spirit resides - we must care for it by what we put into it just as much as to show care for what comes out of it (by our minds, our mouths, etc).

Also, do seek the Lord about a place to meet real believers & worship with them. The RC Church is not suitable at all, as much as you have a desire to be in a 'Christian' environment to pray. God hears & answers prayer right there in your room ( Matthew 6:6), where you are alone with God to call & cry to Him, & no man can interfere. But with the strong influence of the French in your country, I'm sure there would 'evangelical' Christians there also, just as we had contact with them travelling as 'Equipe Commando' in France in 1988, spreading the Word to a predominantly RC population.

Josef, may you continue to grow in the grace & knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Matthew 6:14-15

For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:

But if ye forgive NOT men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

Matthew 18:21-22

Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how often shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times?

Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until SEVENTY times SEVEN.

Luke 6:37

Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and you shall be forgiven:

Ephesians 4:32

And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.

Ephesians Chapter 4:26-27

Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath:

Neither give place to the DEVIL.

Colossians 3:13 - Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, you also do.

Comment by Mishael: when we don't forgive others, Satan accuses us before the Throne of God, until we do forgive.

Taking Communion in unforgiveness, causes us to be unworthy to receive the blessing. We even must forgive ourselves. Every day till it takes root in our heart. How many years are you willing to live with this self-condemnation?

Wipe your heart, and in time your mind will follow.

Philippians 4:6 - Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God.

Matthew 6:6 - But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

James 1:5 - If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all [men] liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.

Matthew 6:9

John 14:13-15

13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.

14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.

15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

Believe the Lord Jesus Christ died for your sins, repent of your sins, pray to the Father in heaven in Jesus name. Pray privately in sincerity because the Lord knows what your thinking. Our Father wants to hear from his children and loves us very much. He might not love what we do sometimes but he still loves us.