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Those bands (U2 & Rolling Stones) are Irish & British respectively & are secular. Just thought of, "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you", loosely taken from Matthew 7:12; and "its more blessed to give than receive", from Acts 20:35 (& mostly used by the world to save embarrassment when the receiving party had nothing to give in return).

Then there is: Am I my brother's keeper?; Apple of his father's eye; Scapegoat; Spare the rod, spoil the child; baptism of fire; salt of the Earth; sign of the times; wash my hands of the matter; good Samaritan; twinkling of an eye; fall from Grace; reap what you sow; four corners of the Earth.

Also, it may be that many of these individuals in these bands (since they are all quite aged now), had some Christian input in their younger days. So when thinking of a theme or lyrics to a new song, they might just appeal to the Bible for 'inspiration'! Also tells us, the great value of Scripture classes to those of us privileged enough to have had that as a school subject; nowadays, most don't even know who Noah or Moses are - tragedy!!

Matthew 25:31-46, Matthew 7:21,

What I've found with most people who seemingly reject the "church" have suffered greatly

1 Corinthians 4:5, Psalms 98:9,

Hopefully this is helpful

Donna,

In Matthew 24 Jesus said take heed that no man deceive you. This is the tool that darkness uses and when we are deceived, we are taken out of the way. You are correct we will not know everything because not all have been revealed. Jesus is the only begotten Son of God and only in Him do we have salvation, He is the cornerstone that the foundation is laid. In 1 Corinthians 3:10 it tells us; According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.

This is where man has blundered, man trying to define or dictate what he truly cannot comprehend or has not been revealed to him. Do not ever doubt your salvation because of confusion caused by man. Let the Holy Spirit guide you and when things that some teach cause confusion and cause doubt, that is not of God.

Matthew 7:13-14 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

We tend to follow the crowd, we should not let the majority guide us, with prayer and a clear mind study this and let the Holy Spirit show you the truth. It would be helpful to study how this doctrine began, why it began, who developed it, how many deaths it caused, and why has it become fundamental, and if you do not believe and confess it you are not a Christian but a heretic.

May the Holy Spirit of truth guide you in Jesus' name.

God bless,

RLW

Hopefully these are helpful to you in the context of "works for the LORD"

James 2:14-26, Matthew 25:31-46, Matthew 5:14-16, Matthew 16:27,

Jesus's examples of miraculous "works" & compassion Matthew 11, Matthew 13,

Not:

Exodus 23:24, Matthew 7:20-23, Matthew 23,

Hello, as per your question the Bible doesn't say you "don't have to" be baptized. It says you do, but of course we have freewill to choose who we want to follow in this life- and whether to do good or evil.

Here is Jesus's command to His followers: John 3:5

"Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God."

So, the real question is: if someone claims to be a Jesus follower (a Christian), but doesn't follow what Jesus says, how serious are they about following Jesus? And do they really love Jesus? John 14:15.

Would a genuine Christ follower always be looking to do the bare minimum they assume is required to "be saved" -or- give everything in their life to Christ, perhaps beyond what they assume is required?

Matthew 7:22 - this seems to be an unpopular reality for some believers who are uncomfortable with Jesus's words that many will assume they're "saved" but will not be. Given this scenario already predicted by Jesus, and given that someone desires to go to heaven, is it safer to obey Jesus or look for ways to disobey Him?

God bless...

Hi Jerimiah. Yes, Jesus was sacrificed to pay the price of our sin that we couldn't pay - and that payment was God's requirement as His pure Lamb was killed as our substitute, so we wouldn't have to take the awful penalty of God's Judgement against us. So the Sacrifice was for all mankind - but not all mankind want that Sacrifice. Jesus' Coming & Death was God's Gift to us so we can have our sins forgiven & enjoy eternal life with Him - but not all want to receive that Gift. In fact, not only do they refuse Him, but also shame & mock Him with their talk & way of living, just as those Romans & Jews did at Jesus' crucifixion.

So, the way is indeed narrow - the narrow path to eternity that only a few can traverse on, as God's children looking to the day when they will be with their God & Father & Jesus Christ. But the other way is wide, for there are so many more that have refused the Gift, & so blinded by their own lusts & passions, that they don't even recognize that hell is at the end of it ( Matthew 7:13,14; Luke 13:23,24). Every man, woman & child has the Blood of Christ available for them - it's now up to them what they do with that great expression of God's Love - God doesn't force that Gift upon them. That is why John 3:16 is so precious: "For God so loved the world (all people), that He gave His only begotten Son (as His Sacrifice for them), that whosoever believeth in Him (they must come - they must place their trust in Jesus), should not perish, but have everlasting life (life forever in God's Presence & not a life forever in hell's torment).

Why does every Christian not being taught the Gospel

Alex

I think you are still misunderstanding the concept: God tugs on the heart or calls us we listen and except God are we turn a death ear to God. If we except the tug or the call from God than the blood is applied to our life our sins are forgiven. But this is where the freewill comes in if we turn a death ear to God than God leaves us in our sins and at judgement, we will receive our reward good or bad, Heaven are Hell. God said in Genesis 6:3 My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: this is the reason for our freewill to except God or to deny God. If we deny God than the blood can not be applied to our life. But if we except God than the blood can be applied to our life. Matthew 7:6 tells us not to give what is holy to the dogs, now in saying that do you think God is going to do that which he told us not to do and do you think God is going to cast his precious blood before swine. Just saying.

God Bless

stay prayed up and ready to go up

cowboy

Hi Brother William,

Amen. You are speaking truth. Many so called christians today do not want to be submissive and obedient to God. They twist/divide/manipulate/ignore bible scripture in such a way, that they fool themselves, and even worse, bring down many others. They are convinced that they can live their worldly sinful lives and still achieve salvation.

You rightly listed one of the most powerful little verses spoken by Jesus in the entire bible: John 14:15 If we love Jesus we will keep his commandments.

Many people are so blinded, they feel justified in outright ignoring this scripture! Well I believe that Jesus will also be justified in ignoring them! And he tell us that he will - in this easy to understand scripture here:

Matthew 7:22-23

Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

If we continue to follow Jesus, love him, and keep his commandments we will always have a lighted path, and he will know us!

God Bless.

Hi Lillie (what a lovely name)

Yes, the lame man was expectant because he probably had heard or saw Jesus had the power to heal people. We have "heard" this same thing in our reading of Scripture. Some have witnessed a healing in their own life or in others.

You have spoken well by pointing out about expectation. If we are to pray in faith we should have the expectation tat God hears our prayers and will answer in the best way possible for us His children.

In Matthew 7:7-11 tells us to "ask and it will be given to you, seek, and you shall find, knock, and the door shall be opened to you. Or what man is there among you who, if his son asks for bread, will give him a stone? Or if he asks for a fish, will he give him a serpent? If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven, give good things to those who ask Him."

Hi Donna, what you said about loving God, and sending his Son to be crucified for us, and that we are washed in the blood of his salvation is the basic essence of faith.

Throughout the gospels Jesus is praying to God the Father many times, when he teaches his disciples the Lord's prayer, Matthew 6:9 "After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name."

when he teaches his disciples the first and great commandment, Matthew 22:36-39 "Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind."

he also teaches his disciples how they should baptize as in Matthew 28:19 "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:"

these are but a few examples of how we are taught to pray, the Godhead (Trinity) is explained clearly in 1 John 5:7

you have no reason to be confused, if someone teaches different they are not teaching what is written in the bible. After Jesus baptism when he was in the wilderness and tempted by the devil he didn't argue, but he did quote scripture, this is why it is so important to read our bible (KJV) on a daily basis, we need to put on the whole armor of God, as in Ephesians 6:11-18, a few years ago I started to read my bible on a daily basis, and now have an inner peace that I never had before. God bless

Matthew 7:7-8 "Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:" "For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened."

Thanks Sister GiGi.

It's funny how We share views of Scripture It's not the dialog that often breaks the peace It's what's sown within that reflects outwardly.

You don't have to give your view, just post the scripture and there's contention!

We shouldn't be surprised

The concept is all through scripture.

John 1:4-5.

No one is going out to seek contention, It's already there.

( Example)

Matthew 10:32-38.

God don't compromise his Holiness to exercise judgment and I don't think he asks us to when dividing the word.

We have to wonder If we're not going to win them over and they know they're not going to win us over, Why are they so adamant on keeping this dialog going? Perhaps they're after the audience. And this is where I believe 2 John 1:10-11 applies.

And if we've been battling this for I know over a year!! Perhaps this verse apply.

Matthew 7:6.

My question was when do it apply and if we're so fundamental about everything else why not this?

In the secular we call the democrats "liberals" But aren't we also as a whole.

And this especially goes for those who say salvation is by works and not by grace when Paul makes that clear all through Galatians starting here-

Galatians 1:6-8.

Paul says let them be a curse

But we call them Brother.

He also emphasize it in

Philippians 3:2-11. And this is the only "religion" given to Man and it slew us.

Now this is a peaceful dialog that you and I are having but some would say it's contentious.

And by the way I have been guilty of this as well, that's why I carefully say WE.

Yes this is difficult but did the Lord say it wouldn't be?

Be strong in the Lord

God bless.

HI Brother Dan.

Sorry but your comment misses the point.

We ALL Know there's different views.

But all views don't have anything to do with Christian faith.

Infact some views is an offense to the faith.

That's why I posted 2 John 1:10-11.

How do you Interpret that verse?

HERE'S PAUL RESPONSE TO ONE THAT SUPPORTS A WORKS BASED SALVATION.

Galatians 1:6-9.

Galatians 3:1-29.

How do you Interpret this?

And this

Matthew 7:6.

If one is preaching another Gospel How could he be Christian?

There's many views, But one truth.

I certainly don't know it all but I pray to have the courage to apply what little I do know!!

And these verses and many more seems to give value to my point.

God bless.

Hi AliBaba,

I just noticed your question and would be happy to share my input based on what you shared.

If you are a Christian (Christ follower) and have genuinely asked God for forgiveness I believe you are completely forgiven and that you should also forgive yourself and release any burden you carry.

However, it my opinion that you should do what you can to right wrongs, but its usually not possible to completely make up for sins (wrongs) you have commited against people that hurt them. Even if someone stole from someone and secretly sent it back anonymously after a period of time, you still never know how much harm and problems and stress that may have caused that person. I believe in doing as best as you can and making things right to the best of your ability. And I believe the next best thing one can do is forgive others. It's possible some of the victims may have known or suspected it was you and it's possible some have forgiven you.

You probably know what it's like to be hurt, and I think the next best thing you can do is 'pay it forward' by forgiving anyone who has stolen or done wrong to you in some way, either in the past, present, or future. It would show great growth and maturity to do that. I will share the Bible references related to this that come to mind:

Matthew 18:21-35 the parable of the unforgiving servant.

Matthew 6:14, Matthew 7:2

It seems your questions are about forgiveness: of others forgiving you, you forgiving yourself, and you forgiving others. This is my opinion based on what you shared and I hope you find it useful. God bless...

Encountering people who teach Heresy or the Heresy of other religions. Not Christianity

MATTHEW 7

4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?

5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

6 Give not that which is holy unto the DOGS, neither cast ye your PEARLS, before SEJNE, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you. (TEAR TO PIECES)

COMMENTARYS

Wesley's Notes for Matthew 7:6

Here is another instance of that transposition, where of the two things proposed, the latter is first treated of. Give not - to dogs - lest turning they rend you: Cast not - to swine - lest they trample them under foot. Yet even then, when the beam is cast out of thine own eye, Give not - That is, talk not of the deep things of God to those whom you know to be wallowing in sin. neither declare the great things God hath done for your soul to the profane, furious, persecuting wretches. Talk not of perfection, for instance, to the former; not of your experience to the latter. But our Lord does in nowise forbid us to reprove, as occasion is, both the one and the other.

Brother David, put the verses below together and mediate on them in the spirit.

We are here on earth and the kingdom is within us. Christ is the body that holds the fullness of the Father, Christ is ONE with the Father, a body with LIFE in that body, we are (ONE) the body and Christ is the LIFE in the body.

Colossians 1:27 ....this MYSTERY..... CHRIST IN YOU.....

Ephesians 4:4

Mark 8:35

Matthew 7:14

Christ is the SEED and the SEED, when planted, bears SEED exactly like the SEED planted. Look at the way God has made plants and animals to reproduce, after their LIKENESS. God reproduces no different than what he created reproduces. Jesus is the first (son of god), Jesus is the last (son of god).

Job 38:7 When the MORNING STARS (plural) sang together (ONE), the SONS OF GOD shouted for joy.

Revelation 22:16

Revelation 2:28

God Bless You!

Hello, Jesus came everyone- do you believe this? Everyone is lost without Him. Matthew 1:21, 1 John 2:2, 1 John 3:8.

False teachers are claiming that everyone is saved regardless and you don't even need to follow Jesus or do anything at all. Some say you can enjoy yourself, commit unlimited sin, follow and worship satan, because it doesn't matter. Based on this lie, I'm sure many would enjoy using that as justification to commit sin tonight: maybe have an affair, do drugs, lie, steal, commit violence, and do whatever your heart desires, and all the things God hates. None of this info comes from the Bible. Jesus said the opposite of what people are spewing here. If Jesus was here today they would likely call Him names, like legalistic or unloving or unaccepting. People are embracing the values of the world over the God's values. Jesus warned everyone to NOT SIN and be NOT of this world. People are twisting things to justify themselves living and following the world and assume they are saved when they are not. The end will be exactly as Jesus predicted: Matthew 7:21.

People at least can't say they weren't warned. But the false teachings about people saying there's no hell, no sin, no this or that is all lies. It's like the devil himself posting lies. A lot of cherrypicking and scripture ignoring must happen to make such a conclusions and it begs the question if everyone is already saved then why read the Bible or spread the gospel if what they say is true? Really sad to see that on a Bible site where 1 click away God's word debunks it. God bless...

Jesus saves those who choose to follow Him and sadly most will stubbornly not follow Him. Deniers of Jesus aren't following Him. People who love sin are not following Him. Do you disagree?

Sadly, we're not all equal in the end.

Luke 13:23 Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them, 24 Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.

Those are Jesus's words. Do you believe Jesus or deny Jesus? Jesus gave warnings throughout his whole ministry. He died for everyone and everyone has an opportunity to follow Jesus, but most don't. False teachings spread here are reinforcing people to continue in sin rather than follow Jesus. It's really sickening to see. I feel very bad for the souls lost and for those deceived by the lies.

Why are so many people falsely claiming everyone is "saved" when Jesus clearly says that's NOT true? Where does such a belief even come from- a man- or God's Word.

Matthew 7:22 - this says many won't make it and they even consider themselves followers. Do you believe or deny Matthew 7:22?

Salvation is at stake and Jesus says you should fear the one who can send you to hell. If someone is following Jesus then you can have assurance of salvation, but if not, you can have assurance of hell. This seems to upset people here and its quite perplexing, because that literally is the gospel. The good news is that Jesus loves you enough to die from you and spare you from hell, but you must stop sinning and follow Him! The only explanation to why people just can't embrace what the Bible says is that this is a spiritual battle, people have hard hearts, and people's own pride has not fully let them accept what Jesus said in Luke 13:24.

My wish is for everyone to read the Bible carefully, especially the gospels and pray for wisdom and understanding. This will help clear out the noise and falsehoods people like to spread. God bless.

Matthew 7:13-14 Do you believe what Jesus said?

Hello Brother Earl, & all in discussion,

I hope you're not feeling attacked, "faithful are the wounds of a friend." Proverbs 27:5-6, I believe we are all still learning, just because we believed something to be true or false previously doesn't mean we always will. The HOLY Spirit is still teaching all of us. The scriptures that are stirring in me the most while reading your discussion are Matthew 7:13-23, Matthew 25:29-30, Matthew 25:31-46, I pray GOD will give us wisdom in these matters. Philippians 2:12-16, Hebrews 10:23-39,

IS SALVATION CONDITIONAL OR UNCONDITIONAL

Romans 5:8 For God commendeth his love for us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

No conditions were put on man to be save, it's a gift of God. You were saved before you were ever born and before you ever sinned. ( Romans 9:11)

Grace is Grace and Mercy is Mercy.

Revelation 22:12 And behold I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as HIS WORK shall be.

Matthew 7:22 .... have we not done many wonderful WORKS

Matthew 7:22 ..... depart from me ye workers of iniquity .... this is man's reward, for man's work...

Philippians 3:2

Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the conscision

Matthew 7:15

Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

Colossians 2:8

Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

Comment: ONLY GOD can change a heart. We are teach with kindness and patience. Not with the leaven of scribes and Pharisees. How did Jesus accomplish this? Study in 1 John, 2 John, 3 John.

John the beloved was called so, "because he gets it". He understood what Jesus said to us.

Boniface,

God did work a wonder in bringing forth our country. Our country offers an individual the greatest freedoms of any country in the history of the world. We should hope to preserve it and make it better than what it has regressed to become.

I am dismayed by the hatred aimed against our country and the strong and good foundations on which it was built. I pray tat God can bring revival to our country and set it aright once again to be a shining beacon of hope (the gospel) and "light" (of Christ) to the world. I remember President Ronald Reagan well the way he uplifted the view of our country in a positive and helpful way. May God raise up a President for us who will be led by righteous principles and faith in God.

Our country was created by much blood, sweat, and tears. It has been preserved by much blood, sweat, and tears. It may need to be restored by much blood, sweat, and tears, as well. Let us labor in prayer for our country.

Do not give away what is most precious to those who would destroy it.

Our country is precious to us, so let's not give it away to those who hate it and want it destroyed.

If we do, they will end up tearing us and our civilization apart.

Tell this to all those liberal "Christians" who support open borders!

Christians have a decision to make: whether to trust and follow God's morals or the world's morals? Christianity (folllowing Jesus) isn't a one time event, but a lifelong pursuit. 1 Corinthians 9:24. It says to run the race (effort); it doesn't say the race is already finished. Some get off course and don't care.

Some Christians follow God's morals only to the point where it conflicts with the world's morals, then proceed with the world's morals instead. The result is following the world ( 1 John 2:15).

Despite Acts 2:38 saying to be baptized, some say "don't" be baptized.

Despite John 14:6 saying to go to Jesus, some say to go through a 'prophet' or pope.

Despite James 4:17 saying to avoid sin, some claim it's bad and 'legalism' to avoid sin.

Despite Psalm 139:13 saying unborn babies are special, some claim killing them is ok.

Despite Ezra 7:13 saying people have freewill, some claim they "don't" have freewill.

Despite Matthew 7:13 saying most people will go to hell, some say most will "not" go to hell.

Despite Matthew 10:28 warning us about hell, some say "there is no hell."

Despite 1 Timothy 2:12 saying women shouldn't teach, some say they "should."

Despite Leviticus 20:13 saying homosexuality is a sin, some say it's "not" a sin.

Despite John 15:10 saying to obey, some say it's ok to "not" obey.

Despite John 1:1 saying Jesus (the Word) is God, some say Jesus is "not" God.

Despite 1 John 5:7 saying 3 are one, some say the 3 are "not" one.

The rationalizing pattern seems to be: "No, the Bible doesn't say [what it actually says], but says [something I'm more comfortable with]". This format seems awfully similar to Genesis 3:4 where satan says "Ye shall NOT surely die." Satan is called the father of lies for a reason and some Christians assume they are immune to it.

Rationalizing the world's morals over God's morals seems to require ignoring scripture. Does anyone agree?

So, should we follow God's Word or man's word (which might be satan's word)?

God bless...

Sheila you are wrong water baptisim does not save, only the blood

of jesus christ. col 1-14 in whom we have redemtion through his

blood even the forgiveness of sins, not water but the blood saves sinners, the thief

on the cross did not need water he needed the blood of jesus christ to forgive

him, once you have been born again spiritually you will want to obey gods

commands of baptisim but it does not save you from hell, repent and believe the

gospel saves the sinner, churches are teaching you false teaching you are either

oneness heresy or church of christ heresy. repent of this lie. heb 9-22 without the shedding

of blood there is no forgiveness of sins.

Adam - there are reprobates that can't see, Paul was spiritually blind until the light shined on him. Paul believed in the God of Abraham, Issac, Jacob but he didn't know who Jesus was. - Matthew 7:6

James 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

Mark 6:12 And they went out, and preached that men should repent.

John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

1 John 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

Precious friend Victor, IF God's ETERNAL Salvation "is false," then I believe we have A Severe BIBLICAL problem With the Following Truths Of The SAVIOUR, The LORD JESUS CHRIST!

1 The LORD "Knows them that are His" 2 Timothy 2:19, And, The LORD "Has ALWAYS Known them that are His" Ephesians 1:4

2 The LORD "Has NEVER Known" them that "Are NOT His" Matthew 7:21-23

3 Therefore, it is BIBLICALLY 'Impossible' for "one to be saved, AND THEN to be lost" Correct?

For More Encouragement And Edification, here is my 2-Part "study" (scroll down the page some) On 2 Corinthians 1:9-10 Three Tenses Of God's ETERNAL Salvation Link

To be born again you have to be baptized.first believing that Jesus is the Son of God.then baptized in Holy Spirit in water.then you will be added to the Churchill teaches that in the book of Acts chapter2

Amen Sister GiGi.

Everyone amongst us is not with us.

We have the Leaven always amongst us and also the tares. We're given the word of truth and the spirit of discernment.

As for the tares.

Matthew 7:15-21.

As for the Leaven.

2 Timothy 2:15-16. Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.

2 Peter 3:15-16. And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;

As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

We must pay attention to those who engage to cause discord rather to build up.

Paul says in Romans 16:17. Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.

Disagreement shouldn't bring hatred.

God bless.