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Yea, I'm like you. I'm not really sure how many bibles I have. They are all KJV bibles except for one Living Bible. That one just collects dust on a bookshelf. I'm not too sure why I even still have it. I guess out of sight, out of mind. I can't give it away because if it's something I won't read, I wouldn't want anyone else to read it either. I'd throw it in the trash but I'm afraid the guy at the dump would get a hold of it.

I do sometimes look at other bibles to make comparisons. I have four different bible software programs on my computer that have tons of different bibles and other books. There is a free online program you can download from e-Sword. That is one of the programs I have. It gives you several bibles, and many other books that I find helpful.

I have heard good things about the NKJV but have not read from that one. Chris may have, I don't know, but I do trust his recommendations.

i love studying The King James version of the Bible because it gives the real context and meanings

LOL. I have never seen those verses. I only say that for people who have trouble with eth on the end of words.

I think Chris said the new KJV is a better version to get. I tried to read a NIV but gave up.

I have a real hard time "retiring old Bibles".

What do you do?

Mishael,

I completely agree with you on the King James but the Living Bible is no bueno (Spanish for not bueno) My very first Bible was the Living Bible. My mother gave it to me when I was very young. I still own it but never read it. It is not even a translation. It is a paraphrase and a very poor one in my opinion. It says things like God was on the toilet, and in one place it says says "son of a b....." I could probably share with you many places in the Living Bible that might change your mind on recommending it. I just wanted to share this with you. Like I said, I do own a Living Bible and I have a lot of things marked up in it that are questionable.

I'm thinking there is one Word of God, and that is the Son of Man, who is Jesus.

We're living in the last days. It becomes more and more evident the separation of Christians by the Names of Their Religion.

Book of Mormon

Jehovah Witnesses: rewrote their Bibles to blot out "GOD" and change it to Jehovah (through the entire Bible)

The Catholic Bibles

Look at the Publishers page in the Bible before purchasing.

....... having a form of godliness, but denying THE POWER of God.

King James Version Bible has the purest translation I think. However a Living Bible is easier for adolescents and teenagers to understand at first. I have 2: both hopelessly marked up/can't read it. :/

If I'm wrong, the Holy Spirit will be by later to set me straight. :o

Be careful telling others they will go to hell if they do ____. The Bible says not to do that and says what will happen if you do. Matthew 7:1. Secondly, that's an assumption and you don't actually know how God will judge. Romans 9:15, Matthew 7:14.

Yeah, you are correct. Heaven is real, at the same time hell is also real. If any one wants to go to Heaven, He should acknowledge and accept Jesus Christ as his Lord and savior. Other wise they will go to hell. Mormons, Catholicism, etc.,. are lead by satan. For Devil is the lier, he makes a false christianity. Be careful of those kinds of false techings.

The world has its perception of God and His Heaven. They believe in a generic god. They believe that all people are basically good, they believe people can become angels, they believe that almost everyone goes to heaven when they die from this world..there are even pastors who help perpetuate this delusion. That is the broad way which many travel...But we know the truth. That only by belief in Jesus Christ and repentance of sin can you go to heaven. That is the narrow way we few travel.

>"So it was not sin as long as they got married at some future point afterwards"

Hello, I'm not sure who told you that, but that doesn't come from God and isn't Biblical or true. The father of lies (satan) loves distorting the minds of Christians and encouraging them to spread falsehoods to others. Even though Christians are saved by grace sin is a big deal and should be avoided at nearly all costs. John 14:15, Matthew 5:29-30. Matthew 7:16-27, Matthew 7:26-27, Galatians 5:17, Hebrews 10:26.

Jesus dose know but he did not know while he was on earth

The TEN Commandments * Exodus 20

1 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

2 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; And showing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

3 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

4 Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labor, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it.

5 Honor thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.

6 Thou shalt not kill.

7 Thou shalt not commit adultery.

8 Thou shalt not steal.

9 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.

10 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbor's.

The law and the prophets is a reference to what we now call the Old Testament scriptures which contain the law of Moses and the Prophetic writings such as Jeremiah ect.

After the Rapture (Caught Up) the government will forbid Bibles. They will be confiscated. You need to Hide one that hasn't been altered.

Better yet: be ready to meet Jesus in the clouds of heaven. This world will be destroyed after all prophesies are fulfilled.

No one knows when the end is, not even Jesus, but we are given signs to watch out for. All I can say is the end is closer than it was yesterday and there is a great deception with people believing lies and spreading lies through the media, social media, and beyond.

Yes satan is still loose how do you think He tempted Jesus and were warned to suit up cause satan seeking whom he may devour- He is the god of this world who is blinding the minds of so many in 2 Corinthians chapter 4- The part when He is casted out happens in midst of the 7 year trib when the israelites are told to flee- When he will be casted out of Heaven for good when God intervenes for the Israelites in Luke 21 & zechariah 14 when satan gets mad at God and goes for us chritians Revelation 12 But we living in them end days where Jesus warned when the gospel been preached to all Nations then the end would come cause google is now adding links to chapters on this bible and removing scripts

The serpent and his seed know what time it is do you???

not about race, gender, crooked cops, guns, flags, what lives matter, statues, immigration, walls, pestilences, tolet paper, false prophets, christs, anti christs, aliens, earth quakes, tsunamis, land, peace, covenant, 666, walking dead, beheading, not even money, power or control, but the whole world souls ! revelation 6-22 & daniel 7-12

Matthew 7:15

"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves". In the same way, false prophets are no different today. They often come in popular evangelical clothing. They went to prestigious seminaries, use orthodox lingo (like Gospel, Trinity, Kingdom living etc). And even appear godly. They often know scripture well, for even the devil quoted scripture when tempting Jesus Christ (Matthew chapter 4). However, their outward appearance does not match their inward one. They are ferocious wolves who will hurt the flock. ( Jeremiah 23:6).

When on the Lord, again I say wait on the LORD.....

Love

Hi Bob,

I believe the phrase: hate the sin, love the sinner applies to this. I don't believe it applies to satan himself, but to people.

We're all sinners, but yes, I consider a sin like mass murder greater than a sin of lying, so it's only natural to look at the person more severely, but I think we should instead deeply hate the sinful act, and deeply hate those choices/decisions, but not the underlying person. For example, Hitler's sin should be deeply hated, but God made him in his image just like you. So the part that God created is the part we should love, even though that part might be hard to see as it can be clouded and hidden by the evil the person is trying to do. Even the worst offenders have multiple chances to make themselves right with God and if they do we should accept them. What if you hated a mass murderer who became a Christian, would you still hate him as a person? If so, then you'd hate one of the greatest authors of the Bible and evangelists for Christ: Paul. God loves giving people many chances, that's the beauty of grace, and we need to give that same grace to others, otherwise, we will be judged for it: MATTHEW 7:1 - God bless!

Christians are to love all people? So are we to love satanists?

David a man after God's own heart said the following

Psalms 139:21 Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee?

2 Chronicles 19:2 And Jehu the son of Hanani the seer went out to meet him, and said to king Jehoshaphat, Shouldest thou help the ungodly, and love them that hate the LORD? therefore is wrath upon thee from before the LORD.

Read that again why don't you.

Matthew 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

Deut 23: 17 There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a SODOMITE of the sons of Israel.

18 Thou shalt not bring the hire of a whore, or the price of a DOG, into the house of the LORD thy God for any vow: for even both these [are] abomination unto the LORD

Romans Chapter 1:

26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Hello, yes, I believe the whole Bible applies. I've heard people claim that Jesus fulfilling the law is abolishing the law, that it no longer applies whatsoever. Jesus already said that is wrong in the exact same verse of Matthew 5:17. He said he was not abolishing the law. So, I believe Jesus over what random people say. Fulfilling the law was through his death to pay for our sins, so we have grace as long as we follow Jesus- this is an active pursuit though. But that doesn't mean the law is gone. Keep in mind that Israelites has more than just moral law, but civil law, and ceremonial law. We don't need to follow the Israelite specific laws, just moral law. For example, 'do not kill'. Are some claiming that it's now just fine to kill your neighbor because Jesus fulfilled the law? That would be a very difficult argument for one to make that it's totally good to kill, when the Bible clearly says the opposite.

Jesus already said what happens to people who are inactive, who do nothing, who blaspheme, who follow the world, who use grace as an excuse to sin as much as possible Matthew 7:21-23. Jesus says if you love him, then keep his commandments. John 14:15. If you don't keep them, you don't love him. If you don't love him and don't follow him, is it likely you'll be invited to spend eternity with him in heaven? Jesus warned his followers repeatedly through parables that most people will go to hell. It's interesting how some Christians are trying to claim sin is okay, that it doesn't matter and that it's wrong to say it's wrong. Satan is the great deceiver and even works within the community of believers to spread his lies. It's clear what Jesus already said, so I'm going to believe and follow him and his words, not the words of man.

James 2 and Romans 6 explain this.

Note that this is my belief through years of Bible study and prayer and you will have other Christians claim otherwise. I already know all their arguments and find them unbiblical. God bless...

People have tried before to set dates; but they end up looking like fools.

No one knows except God the Father. Not even Jesus knows.

Use this website to search the words: Caught Up.

We are given SIGNS of the TIMES when it will happen. Sometimes it seems everyone has a different opinion about it. Start studying in Matthew chapters 24 and 25.

thank you so much...I have one more question...what, when and where is the rapture?

Hi Ann, this is a predictable discussion. I know all the verses you shared and agree with them, because I believe in the Bible- all of it, not just cherry picked verses. Have you read the entire chapter context around these verses? Because it completes the thought and explains what exactly it means. I can pluck out things too that only share part of the picture, like 1 Timothy 2:15.

You said something before worth analyzing: "FAITH or WORKS??? It CAN'T BE BOTH!"

Why not? Who said it can't be both? It is both. The Bible already says it's both and even already predicted this exact believe and refused it. James 2:17 says faith without works is dead- do you believe that? If not, what is your explanation for not believing this part of the Bible?

Since you believe Paul, do you believe what he wrote in Romans 7? He talked about his deep struggle in trying to avoid sin and do good. Why would he struggle if doing good isn't necessary one bit? He called himself captive (prisoner) of sin. He was in deep torment to try to do good. If no good works was necessary why didn't he instead just party and live a life of sin and not worry about spreading the gospel, if he was already 'saved'? The Bible makes the answer clear.

James 2:19 - even demons believe in God and Jesus, including satan. So, if all that's needed to be saved and go to heaven is to believe does that mean satan will go to heaven? If not, why? Hitler attended church and might have been a Christian in his early years, so will we see him in heaven too, despite Romans 2:6?

Is it 'wrong' to do good works? If so, why does the Bible say in multiple places to do good? Matthew 7:16-23. Jesus says most people will go to hell and you'll know his followers by their fruit. If good isn't needed, then why would Jesus say this. Was he lying? It would be a very hard argument to make that living a fruitful life of good works is 'bad', because that's exactly what the Bible says to do and how you can recognize genuine Christians. Christians aren't saved by good works, though. That's a logical fallacy to assume that. Grace alone saves. If someone wants to follow Jesus, however, it requires action, doing things.

Reading the entire chapter context of the Bible clears up such misunderstandings. God bless you in your journey for the truth.

When Lucifer was kicked out of Heaven (pre-garden of Eden), he was on the earth in the darkness. He was here when creation began.

When Adam and Eve sinned, Lucifers name became Satan. He obtained the deed to the earth.

Evil was here until 2nd Adam, Jesus came to earth, became the Son of Man, and fulfilled his work as Messiah; the Son of God.

When Jesus was crucified, He fulfilled over 100 prophesies. One was Genesis 3:15, And I will put enmity between thee (Satan) and the woman and between thy seed and her seed, "IT" shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel."

Jesus got the keys to hell to release the prisoners; and He took back the deed to the earth. Satan was stripped. But he's still here. At the 2nd Advent, there will be a war between Satan and Jesus. Satan will lose.

That's why we have an I WILL running around to and fro in the earth exercising evil against people. Gods children are hurt too, but we can pray for Divine intervention if our faith is strengthened and exercised.

Even in the Lords Prayer, we pray: deliver us from the evil. If you don't know what that prayer means, you are going to suffer hurts or worse. Get knowledge and fight!!

Satan is a loose evil will in our world. That's all he's got, but that's bad enough. That's why I tell people to pray and ask the Holy Spirit for the gift of Discerning Of Spirits. You'll be able to discern when evil is about or when angels are near.

Learn about spiritual warfare. Don't start seeing demons everywhere. Learn what their fruit is.

Look, I'm not going to tell about weird stuff that's happened to me. If you have weird stuff then you can ask me. My testimony is Heinz 57.

Be blessed because Jesus has overcome them!

Barbara: Prepare before witnessing. Pray to the Lord of the Harvest; to send people your way that are ready to hear & seeking God.

Ask them if they've ever told a lie; stolen something (like a pen or sticky notes from work)?

Ever wanted the house or a car of the neighbors?

Ten Commandments things. See if they will admit to being a liar or thief.

Then tell them if they've even broke one of those commandments, they are guilty of all 10.

Ask them if they believe Jesus is the Son of God. He was born through a virgin. He lived a sinless life. He was crucified for the sins of the whole world; That he rose back to life on the 3rd day; he was seen by 500 people after resurrection; that he returned To heaven to sit at Gods right hand and make intercession for all saints.

Yep. I expect you to look up those scriptures.

Study to show yourself approved. A workman that doesn't need to be ashamed.

If you're prayed up; studied up, you'll have more success. Jesus wants us to follow Him. That means being ready to share what you know & what you have believed.

Invite the newborns to attend at your Church. They need to tell someone that they got saved! And to receive the Holy Spirit by corporate prayer.

You will have much success; and receive a soul winners crown. :D

Never be discouraged. Ask God to rain on every seed you've planted. Pray lots & lots.

Why do people get mad at you when you tell them about Jesus.And hate to see them lost.

Victor, the law and the prophets mean the first five books of the Bible.

Praise the Lord!

Thank you brother Bob Hilt!

Greetings Victor, The Law when mentioned in the new testament generally refers to the first five books of the Bible attributed to Moses. Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy. This is where the ten commandments are found.

The prophets were the (major in size) writings of those like Jeremiah, Isaiah, etc.

The Minor (in size) prophets were those like Amos, Jonah, Micah, etc.

Someone asked Jesus what was the most important or great commandment.

Matthew 22:36 - Master, which is the great commandment in the law?

Mat 22:37 - Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

Mat 22:38 - This is the first and great commandment.

Mat 22:39 - And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Mat 22:40 - On these two commandments hang ALL the law and the prophets.

In other words if you keep the two commandments you keep them all.

Well that and believing that Jesus is Christ

Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.