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Hebrews 6 and Hebrews 10 refer to religious individuals who professed Christianity for a while but then fell away for one reason or another. These types of superficial but lost Christians are spoken of by the Lord in Matthew 7:

Matthew 7:23

And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Jesus did not say He once knew them before they fell away, but He never knew them.

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As proof that Matthew 7:12:

12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.

is a restatement and probable expansion of our obligations under the second great commandment, Matthew 22:36-40 says:

36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law? 37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

The end of verse Mt 7:12 and Mt 22:40 are basically identical.

Jesus never made any statement like that when he referred to Leviticus 24:20, which in its full context in Leviticus 24:17-22 reads:

17 And he that killeth any man shall surely be put to death. 18 And he that killeth a beast shall make it good; beast for beast. 19 And if a man cause a blemish in his neighbour; as he hath done, so shall it be done to him; 20 Breach for breach, eye for eye, tooth for tooth: as he hath caused a blemish in a man, so shall it be done to him again. 21 And he that killeth a beast, he shall restore it: and he that killeth a man, he shall be put to death. 22 Ye shall have one manner of law, as well for the stranger, as for one of your own country: for I am the LORD your God.

This law was never given under the Law as the basis for vigilante vengence where individuals take matters into their own hands, but always fell on the entire covenant community under the Law to bring before judges that called for witness testimony before any sentences were passed or carried out. Also, any sentence that were be carried out as a result of this law against any stranger must equally be carried out on any member of the covenant community for the same offense to uphold the name of the LORD our God. So, take great care and don't apply it lightly.

Then u have not submitted fully to God's Will for u . When we say : Thy Will be done , we have to mean it . Jesus was sinless . The Jewish leaders had no cause to kill him but they bent and twisted their law in order to kill him . Jesus didn't have to let them do that . He had power on earth to do anything that he wanted to do . He chose to submit to his Father's Will .That's what we as Christians r also supposed to do . It's not always easy for sure . But it's what we r called to .

Yaaaaaay ! Carleton ! We missed you ! It's fab to read a post from you ! You made me smile a huge smile today ! I've been reading you on and off for a couple of years now , so glad that you are ok . Much love in Christ .

Matthew 7:12 is just like its an eye for a eye and a tooth for a tooth. First Jesus Christ himself wants our weapons then teaches us how exactly to be righteous person then returns our weapons. To much forgiveness leads us directly into wrongful persecution and makes us easy to attack. We must have a certain amount of justice and be humble enough but not allow the enemy to much injustice because they take advantage over us and they will not physically learn nothing but they can have their ways easy and we will all suffer wrongful persecution which I will never allow myself willing into slavery or anything wrongful persecution I will suffer persecution for love and righteousness but never allow myself willing into wrongful persecution for no God ever.

I didn't read the scripture you posted because I personally didn't feel GOD leading me towards those.

GOD promises us wisdom if we ask: James 1:5-8, Matthew 7:7,

Test also 1John 4, Matthew 4, Mark 1:13 -, Luke 4,

Hello Sara. Are you enquiring about the date of writing of the Gospel of Matthew? No correct date or year can be given as no such records have been kept. However, somewhere in the 60s AD is generally the years given for the writing of that Gospel by Matthew; some even give it an earlier date. And the Gospels would have been available to the Church & Church Fellowships farther away, some time later, but within the 1st & 2nd centuries. Luke 1:1-4; Acts 1:1,2.

I am wondering when the original work for Matthew 7:1 was published?

Thank you,

Sara

According to Strongs Exhaustive Concordance of the KJV Bible there are three variant Greek words translated devils.

The root word in his Greek dictionary of the New Testament is:

1142.

Transliteration daimn (Key)

Pronunciation dah'-ee-mown

Part of Speech masculine/feminine noun

Root Word (Etymology) From daio (to distribute fortunes)

a daemon or super-natural spirit (of a bad nature); - devil.

Matthew 8:31; Mark 5:12; Revelation 16:14; Revelation 18:2.

1139.

Transliteration daimonizomai (Key)

Pronunciation dahee-mon-id'-zom-ahee

Part of Speech verb

Root Word (Etymology) Middle voice from (G1142)

to be exercised by a daemon;-have a (be vexed with, be possessed with) devil (-s).

Matthew 4:24; Matthew 8:16; Matthew 8:28; Mark 1:32; Luke 4:36

1140.

Transliteration daimonion (Key)

Pronunciation dahee-mon'-ee-on

Part of Speech neuter noun

Root Word (Etymology) Neuter of a derivative of (G1142)

a demonic being; by extension a diety:-devil, god.

Matthew 7:22; Matthew 9:34; Matthew 10:8; Matthew 12:24,27,28; Mark 1:34,39; Mark 3:15,22; Mark 6:13; Mark 9:38; Mark 16:9,17; Luke 4:41; Luke 8:2,27,30,33,35,38; Luke 9:1,49; Luke 10:17; Luke 12:15,18,19,20; Luke 13:32; 1 Corinthians 10:20-21; 1 Timothy 4:1; James 2:19; Revelation 9:20.

demon - The Modern English word demon derives from the Middle English demon: from medieval Latin demon, from Latin daemon, from Greek daimn 'deity, genius'; in demon; also from Latin daemonium 'lesser or evil spirit', from Greek daemonion, diminutive of daimn.

devils - The Modern English word devil derives from the Middle English devel, from the Old English dofol, that in turn represents an early Germanic borrowing of the Latin diabolus.

The KJV translation is not a word for word or uniquely and infallible inspired representation of the Greek New Testament, and we should be cautious in choosing which English words in it we want to make our hills to die on without first consulting the Greek.

Amen Bob.

That is in the context of what that verse is saying, It's not a verse that we use to examine a fault or to bring condemnation, It's used to verify.

Here's it in its context;

Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Matthew 7:15-16.

This is not an outward showing of the flesh, This is caused by the husbandman "God!" This is spirit indwelling!! Not the works of the flesh where man have an outward appearance but dead on the inside.

Matthew 23:27.

You can't work this up.

A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Matthew 7:18.

Here's another reference to your comment. Matthew 23:25-26.

I believe this is what Henry was getting at also.

This is wonderful scripture and important to keep it in its context.

This is the ministry of the Holyspirit.

This is not examining a fault in another such as a mote in ones eye or pulling a beam out of our eyes.

those verses is speaking of judging/condemning.

Fruit is something you don't produce, it's something you bare. You're the branch connected to the vine!

Now we can examine ourselves and according to John, We can know whether we're in the faith or not.

1 John 4:13-21.

God bless.

Hi Mike.

According to scripture, there seems to be a downfall to every country for one reason or another.

God bless.

A house divided against itself cannot stand. The egregious racial divide is the down fall of this country. God is no respect of person..

Acts 2:38 seems to be the most compelling verse. While I can't go so far as to say it's 'required' for salvation with no exceptions, baptism is emphasized and encouraged so much in the Bible that at bare minimum it's extremely important. So, why a Christ follower would want to follow Christ on everything else, but this, I cannot understand, and in my opinion is risky to disobey Jesus. A Christian or Christ follower puts Christ first and shouldn't be ashamed to follow Christ. I think verses like this are scary: Matthew 10:33. Also: John 14:15, Matthew 10:28. One can presume if we don't obey Jesus then we don't love Jesus, and if we don't love Jesus, should we expect benefits from Him? Matthew 7:21. Some don't fear God, but should. Fearing God is mentioned many times in the Bible, so I believe it, and think that we should really fear his judgment if we are not following Jesus. If we have a pure and clean heart and are genuinely following Jesus I believe we can have confidence and assurance of salvation, but that doesn't give us a license to go out sinning and violating God's moral laws. A lot of people falsely assume they get to cut corners and earn a get out of hell free card while enjoying all the benefits of a worldly, sinful, anti-Christian life, but the Bible already addressed those false assumptions.

Psalms 37:4, John 16:23, John 14:14, John 16:24,26,27, Luke 11:9-13, John 15:16, Matthew 7:7-11

James 4:3,

Hopefully this is helpful

Matthew 7:1-27, Matthew 25:31-46,

Hello Joe Rak,

Interestingly some people will think for sure they're going into Heaven & aren't. Matthew 7:1-27.

Yet encouragingly many that didn't think they're worthy do. Matthew 25:31-46,

Luke 16:1-13, Colossians 3:23-25, James 2, Ephesians 2, Hebrews 10, - Hebrews 11, Jude 1

I hope you find these scriptures helpful :

Proverbs 19:29, Proverbs 10:21, Proverbs 1:22, Proverbs 14:8, Proverbs 1:7, Proverbs 13:20, Psalms 107:17, Ecclesiastes Ecclesiastes 7:5, Ecclesiastes 5:1, Proverbs 1:32, Proverbs 9:13, Proverbs 15:20, Proverbs 17:25, Proverbs 10:14, Proverbs 29:9, Proverbs 21:20, Proverbs 14:7, Proverbs 14:1, Ecclesiastes 4:13, Ecclesiastes 7:17, Proverbs 9:6, 1 Timothy 6:9, Romans 1:21,

Psalms 73:22-28, Titus 3:2-8, Matthew 7:26,

1 Corinthians 4:9-13, Proverbs 4:5-18, Proverbs 5:1-2,

1Corinthians 1:18-31,

Hopefully these are helpful in your study.

Hello Utibe. The one who has been truly saved & has God's Spirit in them, can never be lost back into Satan's domain. These people will remain faithful to their Lord, suffering all things for His sake, & hating even the smell of sin entering their lives. There are many 'Christians' who faithfully attend a Fellowship, witness to others & give every appearance of being saved, but when adversity comes or even when committing sin isn't all that important, they fall away, turning their backs to the One they once called their Saviour. The Lord knows who belongs to Him; 2 Timothy 2:19, "the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity."

Here are some Scriptures showing God's Part in saving & securing those who have truly repented & turned from a life of sin - being born again of His Spirit:

John 10:27-29; Ephesians 1:13,14; Ephesians 4:30; 2 Corinthians 5:17; 1 Peter 1:3-5; 1 John 5:13; Romans 8:33-39.

But there is also the other side, where some Scriptures seem to indicate that a Christian can apostatize, such as:

1 Timothy 4:1; 2 Thessalonians 2:3; 2 Peter 2:20-22; Hebrews 3:12.

But the ultimate test of real faith is when our love, even our lives hang in the balance. Will we deny Christ - will we save our lives rather than lose it for Jesus? Many 'Christians' would under examination want to save themselves, yes, even those who attend a Fellowship & follow through with Christian disciplines. We should not have to hear those words in Matthew 7:21-23, "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that DOETH THE WILL OF MY FATHER which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."

Please explain matthew 7:6

I believe this is what you're asking for,

Matthew 6:33 "But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you."

Matthew 7:7-8 "Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:" "For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened."

Luke 12:31 "But rather seek ye the kingdom of God; and all these things shall be added unto you."

I will comment on versus 19-21; we are warned by the Apostle Paul in these versus that if Christians live an ungodly lifestyle, they will not inherit the kingdom of God. In order to understand the warning we must first understand the difference between entering the first dispensation of the kingdom of God, and inheriting the second dispensation of the kingdom of God. All Christians, upon being born again enter the kingdom of God, as in John 3:5 & Colossians 1:13 The Lord Jesus taught during this first dispensation of the kingdom of God, it is within the heart of all believers. Luke 17:20-21 We got into the kingdom of God by unconditional promises, through faith without works, as part of the foundation that Christ Jesus laid. Yet when we speak about inheriting the kingdom, we cannot talk about this first dispensation of the kingdom of God at all, seeing the word used here is inheriting, meaning, the Apostle Paul is referring unto the second dispensation of the kingdom of God, known as the millennial kingdom. Not all Christians will make it into this kingdom, although they will all go to heaven, yet to make it into the kingdom of heaven, it is not a free gift, rather you must earn entrance by meeting conditional promises, as in Matthew 7:21 and as in Acts 14:22 and as in Matthew 3:5 and Matthew 3:10 All of which speak of entering the millennial kingdom of heaven by faith with works, as you meet the conditions spoken of in those chapter versus. On the other hand, if a Christian lives an immoral lifestyle, as mentioned here in these seventeen sins, he is denied entrance into the millennial kingdom of God, and will remain in heaven until the thousand year kingdom is over.

Hi Alex N. In your response to conditional promises, you wrote about the kingdom of God, as though all Christians already have this in them, I should clarify this statement therefore to you, the first dispensation of the kingdom of heaven is inwardly, it lasts for 2,000 years, from the time the Lord Jesus died until he returns, according to the Lord Jesus in Luke 17:20-21 all Christians have the kingdom of God in their heart, this is also taught in John 3:5, all Christians enter the kingdom of God when they are born again, The Apostle Paul affirms this truth in Colossians 1:13, however, this is not what I was speaking about in conditional promises, I spoke about the millennial kingdom of God, which has not happened yet, no Christian has entered this yet, all scriptures place conditions upon entering that kingdom of God. I will say this, we made it into the first dispensation of the kingdom by faith without works, but to make it into the millennial kingdom, it is by faith with works. Please read Matthew 7:21 only if a Christian does the will of God can he make it in, this is a condition attached to making it in the kingdom. Read Matthew 25:14-30 unless you used your talents you cannot make it into the joy of the Lord, being the millennial kingdom, again a conditional promise to get it, or read Acts 14:22 as we must suffer much tribulation in order to make it into the kingdom, another conditional attached to making it into the millennial kingdom of heaven. Again read the warnings of why Christians will not make it into that millennial kingdom in 1 Cor. 6:9-10 & Galatians 5:19-21 & Ephesians 5:3-5 as a result of living a godless lifestyle, you lose your inheritance of entering into the millennial kingdom of God, in order to rule and reign for a thousand years. As concerning your topic of the man child teaching us all things, that prophecy is for the coming of Elijah in Malachi 4:5-6 it is not the ministry of the man child. I hope this explains conditional promises.

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Hi Kenaket.

God is Holy more so than we can imagine,

Sin separates us from God. Jesus is the only way to the father. John 14:6. Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Matthew 7:21-23. Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

And then will I profess unto them, I NEVER KNEW YOU: DEPART FROM ME, YE THAT WORK INIQUITY.

I hope this helps.

God bless.

Jesus said to watch out for false teachers. Matthew 7:15

The Bible also talks about the importance of humility: 1 Peter 5:5

Teachers will be judged more strictly: James 3:1

Brother Adam,

Amen, and well said.

I'm not surprised with this kickback against scripture. There is a large percentage of people today, preaching and believing false doctrine out there. Much of this doctrine is coming out of the Mega Churches, and the "feel good preachers". Their teachings, have no merit when held up to the light of scripture. They ignore tons of scripture, including the Gospel of Jesus Christ. They are more interested in growing their congregations and bringing in vast amounts of money. In order to keep and grow their congregations, they tell people what they want to hear, and manipulate the scriptures to agree with their lies. People don't want to hear that they need to change their life and stop sinning. They want to continue living a worldly lifestyle and believe they will still get salvation, when the scripture clearly states otherwise.

Yes, the gate is strait, and narrow is the way - few will find it! Many today ignore this verse.

Matthew 7:14

"Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it."

Many also ignore:

Revelation 22:14

"Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city."

Jesus tells us Point Blank - if we don't keep his commandments we WILL NOT have the right to the tree of life! So we will not enter into Heaven.

A wise person "fears God' and in conjunction with the Holy Spirit will do their very best to avoid sin, and live a Christ like life, while producing good works and good fruit.

God Bless.

Hello Spencer,

I'd like to comment on what you wrote: "in fact if you add works to salvation you are not saved at all and going to hell"

You quoted scripture which is great, but that intepretation is untrue.

Let's be very specific. Someone could interpret what you said and instead of helping feed the poor for the day he decides to commit a few random murders. So, according to your statement that's good, because he avoided helping people which would have been bad because it's "works"? Do you realize how twisted and backwards that sounds? So, doing good is bad, and bad is good is your message? Beware, because that is precisely what the devil does. He deceives in order to disobey God and commit evil. Those who follow satan and commit evil are going to hell if they never turn to Jesus. Obeying and doing works is GOOD, as Jesus said.

Now, let's focus on the possible origin of this misunderstanding: Rom 4:1-5.

This is talking about Abraham and works, but as good as he was it wasn't enough. God has high standards. Just because we're not good enough means we should do the opposite of God wants- and commit evil, that would be like slapping Jesus in the face.

This means you can't EARN grace. It doesn't mean to stop doing good. If you keep reading notice Romans 4:8. Paraphrased it says blessed is the man who doesn't even sin in the first place.

The Bible says to be a light of the world, to love and help people, do good works and deeds, help orphans and widows, care for people. And do everything possible to AVOID SIN, even if you have to cut off your own hand! Mark 9:43

John 14:15 - Jesus says to OBEY! And if you don't you don't even love Jesus. Those who don't love Jesus probably aren't following Jesus and by definition are not Christians and should not expect to attain salvation as He says here:

Matthew 7:21

“Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.”

Does that scripture influence your belief?

I will speak of versus 19-21;

Here the apostle Paul gives warning unto all Christians concerning the millennial kingdom, he warns if Christians live an ungodly lifestyle of immorality in these seventeen sins or the like, they cannot inherit the kingdom of God. This warning is specifically speaking about not inheriting a kingdom, it is not speaking of Christians who live immoral lifestyles cannot go to heaven. The Kingdom of God is based upon conditional promises, Christians must qualify in order for them to make it into the millennial kingdom of God, otherwise they will remain in heaven until the thousand year kingdom has expired before being resurrected. The Apostle Paul gives this same warning in 1 Cor. 6:9-10 and Ephesians 5:3-5 Even the Lord Jesus taught conditional promises must be met before a Christian is counted worthy to enter the kingdom of heaven. Matthew 7:21 The Lord Jesus taught if we bury our pounds we are denied entrance into the Millennial kingdom of Christ, as we must meet the conditions to qualify us. Luke 19:12-27 Again, the Apostle Paul taught conditional promises are required to make it into the millennial kingdom, as we must through much tribulation enter that kingdom of God. Acts 14:22

One thing about Christianity is you can't carbon copy it, observation and following doesn't leads to Justification, It's what's inside that has to be renewed,

not the doctrinal practices and rituals we focus on. We can't manifest spirituality.

When we are born again our walk is guided by the Holyspirit,

The Apostles walked and observed Jesus 3 years but was unable to truly follow Jesus until he sent the Holyspirit. Not only did their beliefs changed also their walk.

It's not how much we know, winning debates, following any particular doctrine or church age that seals or confirms anything, IT'S BEING IN CHRIST WHERE IT BEGINS AND WHERE IT ENDS.

After we have been regenerated, guidance follows and that's a work by the Spirit on your heart!! Spiritual growth begins. If there is no Spiritual growth we examine ourselves,

We don't go after looking for sheep to follow.

Matthew 7:15-18.

John 15:5.

But if there is one shepherding the Lords flock we will hear his voice.

John 10:27.

We don't become his sheep by following him, we follow him because we are his sheep. We hear is voice in who ever is speaking and from there we are led to green pasture.

Alan F. Portelli,

I appreciate your exactness. I have understood it to mean what you've stated. With emphasis on "few''. With a cross reference to Matthew 22:14. Matthew 20:16, Numbers 26:54, Luke 13:23-24, Matthew 7:14,22,23,

Romans 5:19 with "many" referred to in like manner: because scripture says 'all' Romans 3:23,

Romans 2:12,

Perhaps the word "many" is used to help us understand the magnitude of people and striking contrast to the emphasis on the word "few" as opposed to a translation of "all" would it seem impossible or less significant per the reader?

Hopefully this is helpful.