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GiGi,

Part 2 Trinity discussion

Did Jesus exist before creation? Did the Holy Spirit exist before creation?

Jesus existed in God's plan, Jesus is the beginning of creation Rev. 3:14 and by Him were all things created Col. 1:16 my understanding is Jesus, was the first in God's plan of creation and everything was created by God, in and through the plan and purpose of Jesus. My understanding Jesus did not physically exist until the fullness of time. Ephesians 1:10 He was born of Mary the Son of God. the seed of woman. Genesis 3:15 Matthew 1:20

My understanding is the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God, not a person, Genesis 1:2. We see all the greetings are from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ. Romans 1:7 1 Corinthians 1:3 2 Corinthians 1:2 Galatians 1:3 Ephesians 1:2 Ephesians 6:23 Philippians 1:2 Colossians 1:2 and 6 more. The Holy Spirit not being included is a good clue the Holy Spirit was not considered a person by Paul and others at that time.

If so, who were they in relation to the Father?

I believe the above answers this.

How did the Father, the Son, and the Spirit all create all that is, seen or unseen?

My understanding is God the Father created all, Genesis 1:1 Genesis 1:31 Proverbs 16:4 Isaiah 45:18 Nehemiah 9:6.

Does Scripture teach that God is only one person who manifests in three forms, but all these manifestations are only one person?

Scripture does not support Modalism I have never considered this and do not know anything about it.

See part 3.

Hi Jerry.

When asked that question in Scripture it seems God answers back with one of his many names. like he does when Paul asks in Acts 9:5.

Paul asked Who art thou, Lord? "kurios" (supreme in authority that is (as noun) controller; by implication Mr . (as a respectful title): - God Lord master Sir.)

The Lord answered him simply, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest.

There are several names for the one and only true God.

Each of the many names of God describes a different aspect of His many-faceted character. Here are some of the better-known names of God in the Bible:

I've looked up some of those names; Here they are.

Part 1.

EL, ELOAH [el, el-oh-ah]: God "mighty, strong, prominent" ( Nehemiah 9:17; Psalm 139:19) - etymologically, El appears to mean "power" and "might" ( Genesis 31:29). El is associated with other qualities, such as integrity ( Numbers 23:19), jealousy ( Deuteronomy 5:9), and compassion ( Nehemiah 9:31), but the root idea of "might" remains.

ELOHIM [el-oh-heem]: God "Creator, Mighty and Strong" ( Genesis 17:7; Jeremiah 31:33) - the plural form of Eloah, which accommodates the doctrine of the Trinity. From the Bible's first sentence, the superlative nature of God's power is evident as God (Elohim) speaks the world into existence ( Genesis 1:1).

EL SHADDAI [el-shah-dahy]: "God Almighty," "The Mighty One of Jacob" ( Genesis 49:24; Psalm 132:2,5) - speaks to God's ultimate power over all.

ADONAI [dna; ah-daw-nahy]: "Lord" ( Genesis 15:2; Judges 6:15) - used in place of YHWH, which was thought by the Jews to be too sacred to be uttered by sinful men. In the Old Testament, YHWH is more often used in God's dealings with His people, while Adonai is used more when He deals with the Gentiles.

See Part 2.

Genesis 11:10-32, Genesis 11:26, Genesis 12, Hebrews 11:8,

Nehemiah 9:7, Acts 7:2,

Hopefully helpful

Hello Gary,

I concur with Jesse.

The Scriptures say that God is everlasting and eternal, without beginning nor being created and will never cease to exist. Life and existence belong wholly to Him. They do not exist outside of God, meaning He did not acquire them from anything outside of Himself. He always has possessed these.

Genesis 21:33 (Eternal)

Isaiah 63:16 (Everlasting)

Isaiah 26:4 (Rock eternal)

Jeremiah 10:10 (the living God, the Eternal King)

Romans 16:26 (Eternal God)

1Tim 1:17 (unto the King eternal immortal)

Hebrews 9:14 (eternal Spirit)

1John 5:20 (He is the true God and Eternal life)

Ps. 93>2 (You are from all eternity)

Deuteronomy 33:27 (Eternal)

1 Chronicles 16:36 (the God of Irael, from everlasting to everlasting)

Nehemiah 9:5 (who is from everlasting to everlasting)

Isaiah 9:6 (Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace)

Isaiah 40:28 (The Lord is the Everlasting God)

Habakkuk 1:12, (O lord, are You not rom everlasting?)

Isaiah 57:15 (the Lofty One, who lives forever

Hope these help.

Matthew 26:29, Revelation 22:1,2, John 14:1-4, 1Kings 8:27, Nehemiah 9:6,

Matthew 10:7,

Maybe we should approach the subject of "commandments" from a different angle. Jesus said,

John 14:15

If ye love me, keep my commandments.

The Greek word translated "commandments" in John 14 is also translated "precept" in Mark 10, indicating the divorce precept written by Moses was also a "commandment." Jesus was not instructing saints to focus on the letter of the law (ten commandments), but the spirit of the law (spiritual applications.)

Mark 10

2 And the Pharisees came to him, and asked him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife? tempting him.

3 And he answered and said unto them, What did Moses command you?

4 And they said, Moses suffered to write a bill of divorcement, and to put her away.

5 And Jesus answered and said unto them, For the hardness of your heart he wrote you this precept.

If we love Jesus we will keep His precepts.

Psalm 119:4

Thou hast commanded us to keep thy precepts diligently.

Psalm 119:45

And I will walk at liberty: for I seek thy precepts.

Psalm 119:78

Let the proud be ashamed; for they dealt perversely with me without a cause: but I will meditate in thy precepts.

Psalm 119:100

I understand more than the ancients, because I keep thy precepts.

The Bible is full of God's instruction (thousands of various precepts) He intends on us seeking to honor the spiritual application of.

Nehemiah 9:14

And madest known unto them thy holy sabbath, and commandedst them precepts, statutes, and laws, by the hand of Moses thy servant:

Genesis 1:14 , Psalms 104:19,

Exodus 23:14, Nehemiah 9:6-38,

1 Thessalonians 5:1-23, Act 1:7-11, Daniel 2:20-22,

Psalms 16:7, Matthew 21:31-41, Daniel 7:23-27, 2 Timothy 3:1-7, Isaiah 33:6, Jeremiah 8:7, Ezekiel 12:27, Daniel 7:2-27, Daniel 9:2-27, Daniel 11:2-45 -continues- Daniel 12:1-4, Luke 21:5-36, Revelation, the whole book,

Psalms 106:3, Psalms 31:15,

Deuteronomy 18:10, Deuteronomy 18:14, 2 Kings 21:6,

1 Chronicles 12:32, Esther 1:14,

Psalms 9:9, Psalms 62:8,

Matthew 16:2-3,

Hopefully these are helpful in your study.

Verse 6-Jehovah God has created even the heavens of the heavens and this awe inspiring fact even brings the angels to bow down to him in worship.

Christians are no longer under the Old Covenant Laws (the 10 commandments followed by approximately another 600 laws). Jeremiah prophesied:

Jeremiah 31:31, 32 "Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:

You will notice that the New Covenant would NOT be like the Old Covenant. The New Covenant was inaugurated by the shed blood of Christ as per:

Luke 22:20 "Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you."

Under this New Covenant, the Laws being stipulated namely in Romans to Revelation, we are never commanded to keep the Sabbath Day holy. In fact, we are commanded the opposite.

Colossians 2:16 "Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:"

Before the Mosaic Law was given at the time of the exodus from Egypt, the Bible never says that the faithful kept the Sabbath Day - whether that be Abel, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, etc. Notice when the Sabbath was given and to whom:

Nehemiah 9:13, 14 "Thou camest down also upon mount Sinai, and spakest with them from heaven, and gavest them right judgments, and true laws, good statutes and commandments: And madest known unto them thy holy sabbath, and commandedst them precepts, statutes, and laws, by the hand of Moses thy servant:

Ezekiel 20:10-12 Wherefore I caused them to go forth out of the land of Egypt, and brought them into the wilderness. And I gave them my statutes, and shewed them my judgments, which if a man do, he shall even live in them. Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign between me and them...

The word "them" is referring to ancient Israel.

In Genesis, God gave Adam dominion over everything except other humans (when there were other humans born later.

Leviticus 26 and Deuteronomy 28, explain the blessings of obedience and the curses against failure to obey.

The people were not to intermarry with UNBELIEVERS. (Idol Worshippers)

God said to expect trouble if Christians intermarry with Unbelievers; non-Christians.

Children's are sanctified by the Christian parent. The Christian parent is expected to rear the children as Deuteronomy 28 details.

I married intercultural and all is good.

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Hello, we're all a part of the one human race and God doesn't distinguish between race and doesn't have any laws about the skin tone or pigment to marry. Moses married and Ethiopian and I'm sure there's many other mixed It's very unfortunate you heard this false teaching from this person. Often times false info comes from a source that is misinterpreted. For example when God led Israelites out of Egypt they passed through a land of 7 nations and Israelites were commanded not to marry them: Deuteronomy 7:3-4. It probably had less to do with their skin color and more to do with them being corrupt idol worshippers. False attribution is a common logical fallacy, but it's often done unevenly. Like, someone may ignore the verses in Leviticus about wearing adornments, fine clothes, gold, hair length, but then tell someone else they can't intermarry. All these laws were for the Israelites- which went beyond moral law, but civil, and ceremonial law. God asks us to avoid sin and keep moral law, not the laws specific to the Israelites for a limited time.

The Bible also warns to not be unequally yoked- meaning an believer with an unbeliever. But Paul in the Bible said it's better to remain single. So, one must read in context to understand what is a suggestion and what is a moral law God wants us to follow. When in doubt we should pray.

We should ignore flawed man's opinions and just go with what the Bible says. The Bible doesn't say anything against mixed race marriages. And most importantly pray to God and ask Him for confirmation and to release your heart of any doubts that have been instilled by others. God bless...

Romans 10:12

Is interracial marriage wrong? Will the Lord cast you out if you do marry someone of another heritage?

I need understanding on interracial marriage. Does the Bible talk about not mixing races at all and if we do the Lord will never allow us into his kingdom? Or is it if the person you marry does not believe in his word and risks leading your children away from him. Because I know Aaron and Miriam were judged for judging Moses and his wife, but was there an exception for them. I'm in an interracial relationship, I'm told it's very wrong. I'm hurt from it, but I want to make sure it's truly what the Bible says, if it's wrong to do. I've read many verses of it, but it all just seems that it says it's only bad if they aren't followers of Christ. I need more understanding, thank you if you read this whole paragraph and respond.

Nehemiah 9 reminds us of the manifold mercies of our Lord Jesus Christ. May the grace of God be with us all. Amen

Russell Rose on Hebrews 13:17. In Titus 3:1 and Romans 13:1 we are told to be good citizens. However, that doesn't mean we have to tolerate tyranny. God has given us the ability to govern. In the US, for example, men, guided by God and Biblical principles, put that ability to work and developed the Declaration of Independence, the Bill of Rights and the Constitution. As long as the people in charge of government implement its precepts properly, we ought to form a part of it, support the government and work to improve it.

However, when governments, and that also applies to churches and other organizations, depart from those principles, it is up to us to point it out, speak up and rectify it. See Nehemiah 9:27 and Esther 4:14. Christ worked within the established Roman and religious rules in Israel. However, He also pointed out the contradictions that existed within the religious order of the Jews. Christ wasn't a revolutionary, because He came with a Mission. His Mission was not Social Reform. His Mission was the total defeat and annihilation of death, corruption, evil, pain, suffering and idolatry (exalting other things in place of God).

Sackcloth and ashes is extreme mourning and / or repentance. sackcloth was rough uncomfortable for clothing. Sitting in ashes was dirty and I suppose symbolic of being dirty and burn out? It is humility before the Lord

2 Samuel 3:31 And David said to Joab, and to all the people that were with him, Rend your clothes, and gird you with sackcloth, and mourn before Abner. And king David himself followed the bier.

Genesis 37:34 And Jacob rent his clothes, and put sackcloth upon his loins, and mourned for his son many days.

Nehemiah 9:1 Now in the twenty and fourth day of this month the children of Israel were assembled with fasting, and with sackclothes, and earth upon them.

Psalms 35:13 But as for me, when they were sick, my clothing was sackcloth: I humbled my soul with fasting; and my prayer returned into mine own bosom.

Daniel 9:3 And I set my face unto the Lord God, to seek by prayer and supplications, with fasting, and sackcloth, and ashes:

Shannon, that verse in Gen 1 can sound tricky unless you see how the pronouns are used. 'Beast' is written in the singular, thus the use of 'his kind', or its species. 'Cattle' is in plural, therefore using 'their kind; and so with 'every creeping thing' is in the singular. There is no reference or even inference that the Trinity is seen in this verse. That is altogether a false interpretation of the Scripture.

Re: your comment on Angels. Well, in Nehemiah 9:6, we read: "Thou, even thou, art LORD alone; thou hast made heaven, the heaven of heavens, with all their host, the earth, and all things that are therein, the seas, and all that is therein, and thou preservest them all; and the host of heaven worshippeth thee." This of course tells us that God created all things & also the "host of Heaven". This "host", or inhabitants, would include the angels, seraphim, cherubim, & other heavenly beings. They may have been created at some point before God's creative Work was completed ( Genesis 2:1 "...all the host of them (were finished))". Satan himself was a created being, a Cherub ( Ezekiel 28:13-16): the King of Tyrus is spoken of in these verses but vv 13 & 15 indicate this was not a mere human but a reference to Satan. It speaks about God creating him & he was perfect until iniquity was found in him & thus banished from God's presence.

So, that should give you a quick explanation to your questions.

awsome i love it

This chapter spells out the certain history of God's people. Knowing the previous books of history of God's people, I can see it in short review in this 9th chapter.

Verse 33~The Israelites acknowledged that the reason they were suffering was because they had done wrong and not because of any fault on the part of Jehovah God.

Our God is such a merciful God. With the Israelites, despite their numerous sins against Jehovah God and his representatives this highlights how God still cared for them and kept his promise to Abraham. Our situation today is similar. We live in a wicked world, yet God hasn't abandoned us. He is giving us time to repent before he has to execute justice.

Verse 8~Jehovah honored his promise to Abraham and this is why he is described as righteous in his choosing the nation of Israel and giving them the Promised Land. Jehovah expects us to honor our promises.

Nehemiah did a complete history of the Israelites in this chapter. He was quite balanced in his narration to the congregation of the Jews after the wall was completed and now time for rejoicing. He underlined the kindness of God. "for thy great mercies' sake thou didst not utterly consume them, nor forsake them; for thou art a gracious and merciful God." Our God is gracious and mighty.

Our God is long-suffering and forgiving, praise His holy name.

Boy, I tell you, if you read the 9th Chapter of Nehemiah, you don't need a sermon to follow it! THOSE verses are POWERFUL! And I was listening to praise music as I read it, which made it even MORE powerful! WHEWEE!

Nevertheless, stop thinking "What is God going to do TO ME today" and start thanking Him for all He does FOR you. AMEN.

I thank God for his grace and mercy, because without it none of us would be here.

The Lord has given them another Savior,Jesus Christ to deliver them and the rest of mankind,from the hand of another enemy, The Devil.

The describe our creator in our continued existing by preserving and sustaining us. Day by day