Discuss Numbers 33

  • Oseas - 10 months ago
    Greetings in Christ JESUS

    Brothers in Christ

    We know that GOD CURSED the Earth because disobedience of man,and warned him,saying:"Thorns and thistles shall it bring forth to thee;...in sorrow shall you eat of it all the days of thy life;In the sweat of thy face shall you eat bread,till you return unto the ground;out of it wast you taken:for dust you art,and unto dust shall you return.

    As above described,the terrible picture after GOD cursed the Earth, what our GOD meant by His words or even revealed when He said of the existence of the world of Devil full of"Thorns and thistles"? Well,with the proliferation of human beings after Earth had been CURSED by Him,nations would emerge or be formed on Earth,and would be like"thorns and thistles".GOD said: Numbers 33:52-55

    55If ye will not drive out the inhabitants of the land from before you;then it shall come to pass,that those which ye let remain of them shall be pricks in your eyes,and thorns in your sides,and shall vex you in the land wherein ye dwell.

    52Ye shall drive out all the inhabitants of the land from before you, and destroy all their pictures,and all their molten images, and quite pluck down all their high places:

    53And ye shall dispossess the inhabitants of the land,and dwell therein:for I have given you the land to possess it.

    Joshua 23:11-16

    11Take good heed therefore unto yourselves,that ye love the Lord your GOD.

    13Know that the Lord GOD will no more drive out any of these nations from before you;but they shall be snares and traps unto you,and scourges in your sides,and THORNS in your eyes,until ye perish from off this good land which the Lord your GOD hath given you.

    Rev.11:15&12:12

    15The kingdoms OF THIS WORLD are become the Kingdoms of our Lord,and of His Christ;He shall reign for ever and ever.

    12Therefore rejoice,ye heavens,and ye that dwell in them.Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea!for the Devil is come down unto you,having great wrath,because he knows that he has but a short time.
  • GiGi on Numbers 33 - 1 year ago
    This chapter recaps the journey of the Israelites when the LORD God delivered them from their enslavement in Egypt in miraculous and at times fearsome ways. The LORD God went before them in the pillar of fire or cloud leading them through the desert to bring about their readiness to enter the promised land. He feed them with manna and quail, made water to flow from rocks where there was no flowing water before. At Sinai, He covenanted with them to be their God and they His people. Over forty years the people who came out of Egypt died in the wilderness as God had said would occur because of their unbelief. This new generation would be the ones who enter the land promised under Joshua and Caleb's leadership.

    Aaron had died on Mt. Hor when God had called him up the mountain to breathe his last. Now, encamped east of the Jordan River in Moab, God tells Moses to instruct the people to drive the people out of the land completely, to destroy all items involved in idol worship. He also warns them that if they do not do these things, the people they allowed to remain would be a source of vexation to them as long as the Israelites occupied the land. God also said that if they fall into the same idolatry as those they drive out, then God will drive them out of the land also.

    God did not give a lengthy speech to these people here. he was very concise and pointed in His instructions. What He wanted the people to do was very plain. Yet, God knew that the people will not follow his commands fully. And He especially knew that the Israelites would repeatedly turn to idolatry, divination, witchcraft, and sorcery over the time He allows them to possess the land. Even so, He puts forth His commands and that is that!

    The Israelites are so, so close to receiving the fulfillment of the promises made to Abraham. They have encountered the LORD God in amazing ways that should have burned into their hearts the worthiness of God who they are to worship alone. How many will stay true?
  • Ronald Whittemore - 1 year ago
    Did Jesus eat the Passover? Tradition or scripture? Does it matter? For study not to offend.

    Passover Day when the lambs were killed is the 14th of Abib/Nisan. Exodus 12:3-33 Leviticus 23:5 Numbers 33:1-3 Mark 14:12 Luke 22:7

    The 15th of Abib/Nisan is the first day of the 7-day Unleavened Bread Feast, first day and the last day are Sabbath days, it starts at sundown and is when they ate the Passover and after midnight they left Egypt. Numbers 33:1-3 Deuteronomy 16:1-8

    From the Last Supper to the burial, Matt. 26:17-75 Matt. 27:1-61 Mark 14:12-72 Mark 15:1-47 Luke 22:1-71 Luke 23:1-56 John 13:1-38 through John 19:1-42.

    This day started at sunset. On this day we have Jesus and his disciples going into the guest chamber, they ate a meal, Jesus initiated the New Covenant, they sang songs, Jesus washed their feet, and they were there for hours. They went to Gethsemane where Jesus prayed, Judas came with the priests and a band of men and officers,

    They took Jesus to Annias and Caiaphas and was judged. Then early that morning they took Him to Pilate and Herod and back and they said crucify Him. They nailed Jesus to the cross the 3rd hour, 9 AM, Jesus died at the 9th hour, 3 PM, and was put in the tomb, all this in one day, before the sunset, the 14th of Abib/Nisan Passover day.

    In Luke 22:14-16 Jesus told them He was not going to eat this Passover with them. In John 18:28 they would not go in the hall, they would be defiled because they have not eaten the Passover, and later that day they had to catch the blood and put it on the altar.

    The Passover meal was eaten after sunset and before midnight, the 15th of Abib/Nisan, Jesus was in the tomb.

    Jesus was the Passover Lamb and the First and the Last. He was nailed to the cross at the same time the first Tamid Lamb was sacrificed, all the sin sacrifices were put on top and He died at the same time the last Tamid Lamb was sacrificed and put on top.

    Hopefully, this is enough to study.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • T Levis - In Reply on Matthew 17 - 2 years ago
    1Timothy 5:8, please read 1Timothy 5, for context, it's not just talking about immediate family but providing for Aunts.

    Titus 1:7, 1Corinthians 4:2, Luke 19, Luke 12, Matthew 25,

    Matthew 27:35, John 19:24, Psalms 22:18, Mark 15:24, Luke 23:34, Joel 3:3, Obediah 1:11, Nahum 3:10, Esther 3:7-15, Esther 9:24,

    Leviticus 16:8-10, Numbers 26:55,56, Numbers 33:54, Numbers 34:13, Jonah 1:7, Acts 1:26,

    Proverbs 16:33, Proverbs 18:18, Luke 1:9,
  • Ronald L Whittemore - In Reply on Matthew 12 - 3 years ago
    Hey Scott,

    Passover is on the 14th of Nisan; it is a preparation day for the feast of unleavened bread, which is the 15th through the 21st. The first day of this feast is a holy convocation (Sabbath) the only work you can do is to eat. Jesus was crucified on Passover day and died around 3 PM. They had to get Him in the tomb before sundown which would be the first day of the feast a Sabbath day.

    Many choose Wednesday for that day but if Jesus was crucified on Wednesday and put in the tomb before sundown, the first day of the feast would be on Thursday a Sabbath day. That would leave Friday a preparation day for the weekly Sabbath on Saturday. The Mary's and all the disciples could have gone to the tomb on Friday with the spices and anoint Jesus' body because there were no restrictions on Friday.

    If the day Jesus was crucified was Thursday, Friday would be the first day of the feast, a Sabbath as S Spencer said a high day, and Saturday was the weekly Sabbath. Two Sabbaths in a row puts Sunday which starts sundown Saturday the first chance they could go to the tomb.

    The crucifixion on Thursday gives three days and three nights. Thursday/ Day, Friday/Night and Day, Saturday/Night and Day, Sunday/Night, Jesus resurrected before sunrise on Feast of Firstfruits which He was the First Fruits of those who slept.

    What is kind of confusing the Passover lambs are killed on the 14th Passover day and are eaten the night of the 15th the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread?

    ( Exodus 12:3-11) ( Exodus 12:29-33) ( Leviticus 23:5) ( Numbers 33:1-3) ( Deuteronomy 16:1-8)

    Oh, by the way, the word even, is anytime afternoon when the sun starts going down until sundown which starts a new day.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Ronald L Whittemore - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Carry Lennert,

    I'm not sure what you are working on, this is not to cause debate, I hope you don't mind if I may give some information that may help you on your search. You say they did not know at sundown and that is when Joseph took His body. Jesus was crucified on the Passover day, 14 th of Nisan, which was a preparation day for the Feast of Unleavened Bread 15 th - 21 st, which the first day is a holy convocation. That is a sabbath day that the only work you could do is to prepare food to eat. There were two Sabbaths, Friday and Saturday John called it a high day ( John 19:31). ( Exodus 12:3-11) ( Leviticus 23:5-7), ( Numbers 33:1-3)

    They had to get Jesus down and in the tomb, before the sun went down, when the sun goes down it starts the next day, the 15 th that started the feast of Unleavened Bread the night they ate the Passover which the first day is a Sabbath. ( Matthew 27:46-50) ( Mark 15:34-37) ( Luke 23:52-56) ( John 19:30-31). The ninth hour is 3 to 4 PM, The preparation and Sabbath they are talking about, the 14 th Passover day, the 15 th, the first day of the feast that will start at sundown.

    It may seem a long time from 3 PM to 7 PM but look at what happened after Jesus gave up the ghost, people went to Pilate to partition that the bodies be taken down. He sent the soldiers to go and break their legs at would take a while before they would die. The reason they broke their legs was they could not push up with their legs so they could breathe, so they die of asphyxia.

    After that Joseph of Arimathaea went to Pilate asking for Jesus' body, Nicodemus, a Pharisee that first met Jesus at night not wanting to be seen, brought the spices for the burial. When Joseph of Arimathaea went to Pilate he did not believe Jesus was dead already, he even sent for the centurion to verify Jesus had died that quickly. You would think 6 hours would be long enough. ( Mark 15:44-45).

    I hope this little amount of information will help, 2000 characters are short.

    RLW
  • Robert Donaldson - In Reply on Numbers 33 - 3 years ago
    Thank you indeed bro Barney.

    Just love the peace that comes from reading and hearing the living word from the kJ

    Plus the real difference I find in meeting those who know the difference between a Holy bible and a gnostic
  • Bro Barney - In Reply on Numbers 33 - 3 years ago
    Yes, this is referring to the miraculous crossing of the Red Sea.
  • Robert Donaldson on Numbers 33 - 3 years ago
    Question

    In numbers 33.8 it says ....and passed through the midst of the sea into the wilderness.

    Is this word sea referencing water of the Red Sea as it is further in verse 10 it speaks of the Red Sea.
  • Stanjett - In Reply on Numbers 33 - 5 years ago
    Yes, 1 score is 20. So 3 score is 60.
  • Rotimi, U.A. on Numbers 33 - 5 years ago
    It pays to obey the Lord for every word spoken by God must surely come to pass. I hope we learn from the mistake of the Israelites in failing to drive out all the Canaanites as they are now facing the result of that singular mistake. May God give us the grace to obey Him to the letter.
  • Peter A. Okebukola on Numbers 33 - 7 years ago
    How everlastingly true is the word of God! In Numbers 33: 55, He warned the Israelites "...then it shall come to pass, that those which ye remain of them shall be pricks in your eyes, and thorns in your sides, and shall vex you in the land wherein ye dwell." Today, this is happening in the Holy Land of Israel which is witnessing scanty peace.
  • A disciple on Numbers 33 - 7 years ago
    Bradley; Yes, that's correct. If you don't have already, it will be a GREAT help to you, to get a Strong's Concordance, and a good hardbound Webster's Collegiate Dictionary: some basic reference tools, that will make things so much fun and interesting, while you look up the meanings of the words; for much of the language used in the Bible is simply not used in our modern world. The Lord bless you.
  • Bradley on Numbers 33 - 7 years ago
    Is anyone able to breakdown the numbering method they use? For example, they say threescore and ten palm trees which I understand as 70. Since threescore is 60 and add ten, you get 70. Is this how others understand it?
  • Issak on Numbers 33 - 10 years ago
    this verse is an incredible prophesy that we can testify any day in modern times just reading the news and watching TV. because they didn 't drive out all the inhabitants of the land they are being attack by home made bombs pricks in yer eyes and thorn in your sides, and vexed in the land where you dwell..!
  • NelsonTucker on Numbers 33 - 10 years ago
    It pays to be obey the all mighty GOD


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