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Hello, animals don't have souls. They don't make moral decisions about right and wrong, they don't sin, and Jesus didn't die to save ticks, flies, amoebas, corona virus, and rattlesnakes. We are more valuable than animals: Matthew 6:26. We were made in God's image: Genesis 1:27. Scorpions and hammerhead sharks weren't made in God's image. Those who claim otherwise are not reading the Bible first to understand what it means. Instead they are believing what they WANT to believe then cherrypicking certain verses, distorting and twisting them to try to match as close to what they want to believe as they can.

Yes animals have a soul the soul is breath life Genesis 2:7 thats what God gave man also animals what he didnt give animals is spirit when either man or beast takes his last breath he dies.

The Bible and the word of God is laid out in the form of the tabernacle or a cross. ( Ex 25).The shadow and figure of the Stature of Jesus Christ is unveiled in the detailed blueprint of the Old Testament Tabernacle, known as Moses' Tabernacle. This was the first Tabernacle, and it was a picture of the Second Tabernacle, the LORD Jesus Christ; therefore, we can find all Spiritual Principles of Wisdom, Understanding, and Knowledge hidden within it. There are 7 pieces of furniture in the tabernacle. The first is the Brazen Altar where the sacrifices took place. It is picture of Christ sanctifying blood sacrifice on the cross. Next in the courtyard is the laver (wash basin)or (baptism). This is God's beginning principle of growth. Every believer or nation must experience the blood, fire and water (baptism) which together makes up the foundational part of the cross. Next is the Holy place wherein is the altar of incense(prayer) , the candlesticks (knowledge, understanding, wisdom), and the table of showbread (Christ's governmental strength). then in the Holy of Holies is the ark of the covenant and the mercy seat. This is God's throne room where HE promises to commune and meet with us. SO when you read anything in the bible the word will fit on the cross(tabernacle) and teach us something specific. The old testament had a natural tabernacle but Jesus is a picture of a more perfect tabernacle.( Heb 9:2-11) We can learn how to grow by studying the meaning behind the furniture in Moses' tabernacle and what it represents. (Tim 3:16,17)

Hi Kevin. If you are referring to "let us make an in our image" then God was talking to JESUS and the Holy Spirit. In the Godhead you have the Father, Word and the Holy Spirit an these three are one. So God is 3 but operates as one as all 3 agrees when something is done. In vs 28 he says to Adam male and female to take care of all living things (animals and plants) as we know them today. So Adam male and female was the first humans created on this earth. If you wondering about Gen 2vs7 then God is just restating how Adam was formed in Gen 1:26. At this stage Eve was still not visible to Adam. Eve was later formed out of Adam's rib and revealed to him but she was part of him up till then. You could say that Adam was both male and female when God created him. Be careful to keep it in context. This might give creedance to the LGBTQ community stance though.

Music does indeed provide much comfort & help especially in times of anxiety. Of course, with good music coupled with truthful encouraging words, then the song can truly be uplifting to one's soul & of praise to God by one's spirit.

Music, as many things we partake in life, is dependent on the person's understanding & appreciation of it. What I like to listen to may not necessarily be another's preference. And that's fine, as good music can minister in its own special way to different people. And so to with a band: various types of music is heard & it becomes one's preference to listen to them or not. I'm not sure whether you're referring to secular bands or Christian. You need to judge whether the words & music conform to your liking & what is proper & wholesome in God's Sight. The best music I find are those that truly cause me to thank & worship God for Who He is & all He has done for me. Hymns do that for me but may not for another who has never been inclined towards them.

There is no such thing as just entertainment. There's always a message behind the entertainment. When we choose to be entertained, we choose to receive the message that is there behind the entertainment. Research your music groups. What is their message?

I love all music, it speaks to me and comforts me. Is it wrong to listen to songs by any band.

High places in the OT are associated with worshipping idols, most often false gods. The Canaanites worshipped their gods on high places which were basically hills that were sometimes artificially made for that purpose. These hills would often have some sort of altar at the top, surrounded by groves of trees and Asherah poles, pillars, or standing stones. Their worship often consisted of burnt offerings, incense, feasts and festivals, cult prostitution, and child sacrifice.

God had often warned His people of imitating the heathen in these practises but only confine themselves at the prescribed places for worship. Even after the Tabernacle was built, where God met with the High Priest at the Ark of the Testimony, & later the building of the Temple by Solomon, people still through the years resorted to creating their own worship places.

Today, some religions still have their worship structures built at higher elevations. Some examples are: The great Pagoda atop Thailand's Doi Inthanon mountain; Taung Kalat Monastery in Myanmar (Burma); The Hanging Temple in Shanxi, China; The Roussanou Monastery in Greece; Saint-Michel d'Aiguilhe Chapel in France. By building these, the structures not only become central & visible to all & a focus of veneration & worship, but also give the sense of being closer to God. All these things detract from knowing & worshipping the True God.

But to the child of God, the Lord desires that the 'high places' in our thoughts & deep in our hearts be removed. That is, anything that would substitute for the lordship of God in our lives, where we give Him equal or second place in how we think & behave, rather than the first place. The NT speaks against being 'high minded': Romans 11:20, 1 Timothy 6:17, 2 Timothy 3:4 all show that such a state of mind & behaviour are contrary to the desires of God for us. Rather, to be like His Son: Philippians 2:3-11.

Thats a good question Sarah! "If we're going through the tribulation does the other books of the Bible matters " all the examples in the Bible of saints being spared from God's wrath would seem like fairy tales wouldn't it. Doesn't make sense does It. sort of reasonable to think we want go through it right? Amen

Do you know how old the universe is? Neither do I. These things only God knows. His ways are past finding out! In all your ways acknowledge Him and he will guide your path! You may ask him to comfort you, with the faith to keep you strong, until that time comes. Have a great day!

Hello ,

I was curious if we are going to experience the trials and tribulations or if the rapture comes first?

If we do experience the trials and tribulations will the other books in the Bible still apply to our lives? Or will we just be trying to survive?

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Genesis 1 26 -28 I need some help to understand this , If I take this as I do that everything in the Bible is TRUE . Then Adam and Eve were not the first people God made , because why would he say that they have dominion over all the beast , and be fruitful and multiply , God did not state that till Adam and Eve was sent out of Eden . Just need a little help cause I was always told Adam and Eve were FIRST. Would explain were Cain's wife came from , help please

We should be as Christ. Loving one another , without covetousness, not looking unto others things .Doing things out of love not for vain glory !We are to be as Christ. Always humble, looking unto him. that we worship as the son of God. So, how can we do these things if we are not like one another. We should always except one another as Christ excepts us . We as brother and sisters should always remember what He has done for all of us!

We start out as a child , we except the word for what it is! As we mature and live our life we carry his word with us. I carried a bible most of my life. I still have a very short memory, and have difficulty remembering chapters and verses. So., what I do is try to apply certain things that happen in life to his words. There is nothing that will happen to you, that is uncommon to man. You will soon find out that Satan does not like anyone excepting Christ. This world is his place , this to you will find out. The 3 words I always, always remember, is when He says " Do Not Be Afraid"

That was good testimony, thank you!

R

This was the name I looked for , my last born of 7.Mishael! Fantastic testimony. You nailed it.

You should find the "Become A Christian" link on this website and compare your experiences with what it says on the total link.

John 3, where Jesus is speaking to the Pharisee, Nicodemas: Jesus tells him he must be born again. When we are born again, we ask for the baptism of the Holy Spirit. He is the Spirit of Jesus Christ. He is available to be your personal Teacher. He opens up the Bible to you. As you are able, He explains your questions.

It involves daily study of your Bible. Works best if you turn off media and listen for the Holy Spirits voice. It is not audible. He reveals Jesus to your born again spirit. With much practice, you will become more in tune to the Holy Spirits presence.

It's more beneficial to begin in the New Testament, learning just who Jesus is. Once that foundation is secure; you'll understand the Old Testament in your study travels.

Attend a Church that is teaching Bible Scripture. Some of them teach "works" or put more emphasis on counseling and relationships. You grow faster if you are learning scripture and how to enter into Gods Presence with praise and worship.

Let us know how it's going, and if we can help more. Explore all the links out on the red links page. It's all good things to read.

Mishael

how can i understand the bible

I agree with you my brother. By your response, I know that you are genuine..back to the "Parable of the sower" the right seed planted in the wrong ground never produces anything and as such will not yield any fruit. Hearts must be good ground and receptive to receive the benefit of the word. Jesus taught using real life examples to teach...for example he said over and over, "The Kingdom of Heaven is like." I believe that one of the ways that we can show that Jesus is also a Father is to look at our own family relationships, beginning with Adam, the father of Seth, the father of Noah, the father of Shem....the father of Terah, the father of Abraham, the father of Isacc, the father of Israel. The title of father is being handed down through generations even in our own families. Christ is Father to us who believe in him that he is not just the Son but has also inherited the title of Father...we are called his little children because we are begotten of him through his blood through the lineage of King David who is our father too. Jesus is Son of God and Son of Man.

Another example is that God called the first man and woman Adam which means earth ( Gen 5:3). Adam (male) was the one to name Adam his wife (female) eve. Because they are our foreparents all of humanity is called "earth"...besides read John 10:34-38 and Psalm 82:1-6. Those who are born of God the Psalmist says are gods. Jesus said, "I and the Father are one" ( John 10:30-33; Deuteronomy 6:4; Philippians 2:6).

Jesus also called the church his bride so we are also one with him.

Any title of God is inherited by Christ who is the begotten of the Father ( Psalm 2:7; Hebrews 5:5). Our children refer to us as father and mother although we ourselves call out parents the same...I hope this helps.

Hello Bob,

What would you say about these Scriptures:

1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Philippians 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God.

A couple other translations of Philippians 2:6 Although he was in the form of God and equal with God, he did not take advantage of this equality.

who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God,

In God's own form existed he, and shared with God equality, deemed nothing needed grasping.

As the KJV is the best translation from the Greek. Most others hack it up.

God Bless.

Steve, I think we've broached this matter before in our discussions. Whilst I believe in the complete Unity of God & that God is One, but from Him, we are taught from the Scriptures, proceed the Word & the Spirit. Though the original comment by Roy was one of 'fatherhood', I believe that the Word sent from God to become Man, expresses God's Fatherhood to His Son Jesus Christ. However, since the Unity of God has never been broken, the Son even at the Father's right Hand, remains wholly within the Unity of God & the full expression of His Person.

Of Jesus in the OT is written: Isaiah 9:6, Psalm 45:6,7 (cf Hebrews 1:8), Psalm 110:1, Daniel 7:13,14.

In the NT: John 1:1-14, Philippians 2:5-8, Titus 2:13 (cf John 20:28), 1 John 5:20 & many more.

So I don't believe it was the RCC or the Nicene Council that introduced the understanding of the Godhead, but what we see & learn from the Scriptures. But to say that Jesus is presently the Almighty God, without the presence of the Father in Heaven is wrong, as other Scriptures attest to it. The apostles & early Church believed in the deity of Christ & so we take it from there & hold onto it, even though our human understanding is limited & weak to understand the personality of God & His revelation to us.

The Apostle James, in this chapter, is condemning the rich, as those who made it their god & used it unwisely for their own benefit & pleasure, rather than for the blessing of others & proper payment to their workers. Their riches were consumed upon their own lusts: lusts for living in carnal pleasures & for high, extravagant living. They "nourished their hearts": this paints the picture of over-indulgence, or fattening themselves, as one does for an animal being prepared for eventual slaughter. Such animals were specially looked after, not worked, only lived in quietness with plenty of good grain to feed on. This resembled these 'rich' men as those fatted contented 'cows' who one day have as their only destiny, their complete demise & destruction.

To find a direct meaning of James 5:5 may not be possible because of the Greek text. However, you could consider the following Scriptures that show a person who lives for self-indulgence or self-gratification to the casting aside of the things of God & holy living.

Ecclesiastes 2:1-11; Philippians 2:17-19; Proverbs 23:20,21; Ephesians 5:15-19; 1 Corinthians 6:12,13; Matthew 6:19-21.

Thank you

AND THAT IS NOT THE KIND OF LOVE WE CAN GENERATE ON OUR OWN, ITS A FRUIT OF THE SPIRIT. ITS AGAPE. In Galatians 5:13-26, it uses some of the same language, and it identify the source be hind each action weather you exhibit that attitude or not, one is the flesh and the other is the spirit. a must read when studying in this area. The verse is telling us how to treat one another, it dont say exalt one another or disparage one another, it teaches egalitarian. to take on the same attitude Christ did when he took on the form of a servant. in the washing of feet Jesus says; Ye call me Master and Lord: and you say well; for so I am. if I then, your Lord and Master, have washed your feet; ye also ought to wash one another's feet. for i have given you an example, that ye should do as I have done to you... Thank you.

GOOD AFTERNOON Matt. I agree with you 100% we cant replicate the level of service and love which was in Christ Jesus. Jesus is the cornerstone of the foundation which our faith is built on, we who are in him is only given an earnest of the spirit. Now the spirit helps us human beings in our infirmities, we who are saved have the mind of Christ, Romans 8:9. "However" some are carnal and need growth. Now Philippians 2:5 "let this mind be in you that was also in Christ Jesus, is not telling us to "match" Jesus in his service, love, understanding, perceptive abilities upon all needs of his Disciples. Like you said to put that verse in context its talking about egalitarian service towards one another, verses 2 through 4 tells us what Paul is talking about, Listen to him; Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same Love, "being of one accord" one mind. Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory; but in lowness of mind let each esteem other better than them themselves. look not every man on his own things but every man on the things of others... As the church did in acts 2:44-46; And all that believed were together, and had "all things in common; and sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men ,as every man has need. And "continue daily with one accord" in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and "singleness" of heart. YES we should have the" mind" of Christ. In Philippians the word mind is fron-eh,-o in the Greek, it means "attitude", we are to have the same attitude. , 1st Corinthians 2:16 says For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ. the word mind here in the Greek is nooce, it means understanding. So to put that verse into action its not just what you do to your brothern or for you brothern, its also what you dont do to your brothern as well such as devour one another, that's fulfilled with Love. Gal 5:13-26.

Phil. 2:5 gives, "Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus."

The context of this directive is that of the Disciples living in egalitarian service to one another, vss 1-5. The example for such is the mind which "was" in Christ Jesus.

It is not possible for any human being to replicate the mind of service and love which "was" in Christ. Jesus' level of understanding of Love, His perceptive abilities upon all needs of the Disciples, and His impeccable delivery of loving service were far beyond our understanding and ability to do.

If you, whoever you are, state rather it indeed doing such can be done, then describe to me how you in fact personally exhibit the Mind of Christ in service to fellow Believers. Do not waste my time and your position there with constructing some widely gathered perspective containing divergent comments, by which you then avoid answering the issue I just stated about your own actions to serve. Just speak the facts of what you do to serve as you supposedly have the Mind of Christ for service to fellow Believers.

Remember, no place in Scripture either instructs or even narrates how we should "do our best to try" to obey the righteous imperatives and commands of Scripture. Either we do or do not comply.

Have I clearly communicated here?

Regards, Matt H.

philippians 2:5 the scripture says let this mind be in you, which was also in christ jesus. christ died for us while we were yet sinners. romans 5:8.

No, bowel movement is not mentioned nor implied in the Bible, but we do often see an archaic use of this word 'bowel' in both the Old & New Testaments. I wonder whether this is what you're referring to. If so, then the general understanding of this word is 'one's innermost being, or from the heart, & in some cases refers to the womb & other applications'.

You can check these Scriptures: Genesis 25:23 (the womb); Genesis 43:30 (the heart's yearnings); 2 Samuel 20:10 (the inner bodily parts, such as intestines, stomach, etc.); Philippians 2:1 (love & compassion); etc. So, it is word that has several meanings & applications, but one we wouldn't use now, rather using a word more specific to our intention.

The first line of the Bible states that heaven is created along with the creation of the earth ( Genesis 1). It is primarily God's dwelling place in the biblical tradition: a parallel realm where everything operates according to God's will.

In Genesis 1, much is written about heaven, firmament, dividing, etc. all those center of the page columns (abc notes) refer to other scriptures. You'll need a study Bible with that feature. Or...

You can go on Google and type in: charts of 3 heavens. NOT all of them are accurate according to scripture.

God is Spirit. He doesn't need to stand on something. The Holy Spirit is Spirit; same thing. In Genesis, Jesus's name is the Word.

See John 1:1-5

Philippians 2:8-10, 6 and 3:19

Revelation 19:13

Zechariah 13:7

Isaiah 9:6

All those scriptures may have reference notes to additional scriptures. You need a reference study Bible, to research deeply.

It takes determination to search out the mysteries of God.

Always ask the Holy Spirit to HELP you and TEACH you those mysteries. He's the Spirit of Christ; and a born again Christian has the Mind of Christ. You have everything you need when combined with Faith: faith that the Holy Spirit does what scripture says that He does. Pursue Him.

Mishael