Discuss Proverbs 12

  • BJGibson - In Reply - 11 months ago
    There are six (6) things the Lord hates and the 7th is an abomination. In my reply I want to try and unpack, if you will, each one separate replies. "These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:" Proverbs 6:16 KJV

    The next verse entails:

    "A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood," Proverbs 6:17 KJV

    A cross reference scripture to this verse:

    "Lying lips are abomination to the LORD: but they that deal truly are his delight." Proverbs 12:22 KJV

    In this scripture verse, God informs man to be truthful in dealing with all others and especially God, since God knows all things and knows when man is being truthful. God informs man to be fair to others. Man shouldn't lie to others to get the advantage or to gain a sense of superiority over others, which could result in having a proud look due to an inward feeling of being puff up, creating a feeling that one is better than the other. When humanity finds itself having the need or want of being better than others then this is when the believer needs to ask God for help, for deliverance from the desire to feel better than others. Its a feeling and its also deceptive because no one is better than the other. Having gifts, abilities and callings does not make one better than the other. Since God blesses man with these gifts they are to be used to help others for the glory of God and not man get the glory for what God has endowed. God has a righteous way of using man to work His good works through others. The Holy Spirit given by God can deliver man from lying to himself and deliver Him from also from lying to others.

    I hope this reply will be prayerfully received. Peace be multiplied, in Jesus Name, Amen.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Is this Earl Bowman?

    If so does God use the means of deception to get his message across? Or does he use all aspects of truth?

    If God is IN you and God cannot lie, Would he use any means of deception to carry out his truth?

    Proverbs 12:17-22.
  • MS BUTLER on Proverbs 12 - 1 year ago
    I would like you to send me a daily devotion if you can
  • T Levis - In Reply on Isaiah 30 - 1 year ago
    Proverbs 6:16-19, Proverbs 11:1,

    Leviticus 18, note the whole chapter, ending with Leviticus 18:30, Leviticus 20, Deuteronomy 7:25-26, please read in context Deuteronomy 7, Deuteronomy 12:28-32, Deuteronomy 13, Deuteronomy 18:9-22, Deuteronomy 22:5, Deuteronomy 23:17,18, Deuteronomy 24:1-4, Deuteronomy 27:15, Deuteronomy 25,

    Leviticus 11, Proverbs 3:32, Proverbs 11:20,

    1Kings 11:1-14, 2Kings 23:13, Proverbs 16:12, Proverbs 28:9,

    Proverbs 12:22, Proverbs 15:8,9,26, Proverbs 17:15,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • Donna Grace - In Reply - 1 year ago
    I do agree with some of the other responses here.

    Council, you have certainly received some of that here.

    Praise God!

    Proverbs 12:15

    Proverbs 11:14

    Proverbs 19:20-21
  • Duncan - In Reply - 2 years ago
    That i don't know but i know it's written in proverbs 12:25 speak with a person who is down will lift them up.

    Proverbs 12:25

    Anxiety in a man's heart weighs him down, but a good word makes him glad.
  • T Levis - In Reply on Mark 16 - 2 years ago
    There are believers that believe they also minister to creatures. Interestingly there are many events in Scripture that show obedience to GOD ALMIGHTY & even accountability. Starting with Genesis 9:5, Proverbs 12:10, 1Samuel 6:7-15, 1Kings 13, Numbers 22, Daniel 6, Isaiah 65:25, Isaiah 11:6-9,

    James 1:5-7,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • Adam - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi Lynn,

    God hates lying: Proverbs 12:22

    There's probably a difference between being strategic with words and lying. I think Jesus was clever in how He handled those who were trying to entrap Him. In some cases He was silent, failed to answer the question, put a question back on them, made a broader point, etc.

    The Bible has examples of people misleading others, like Joseph not revealing who he was to his family. Abraham lied to Pharoah saying that Sarai was his sister. It doesn't mean this wasn't sin and that God didn't hate it, though. I think it just stated what happened.

    My personal question is whether its ok to mislead or even deceive others for the sake of protecting self or loved ones. If someone tries to rob me and I tell them I'm sick and contagious, for example, it would be a strategy to avoid danger, but would that be sin? If a really dangerous man knocks on the door and asks if my daughter is home am I supposed to say yes just so I don't lie despite it putting her in danger?
  • Cindy - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Dear Linda, devote yourself to God, and He will give you peace and joy.

    Proverbs 12:25 "Heaviness in the heart of man maketh it stoop: but a good word maketh it glad." In other words, anxiety about your lonely plight is causing you to be depressed and thus lack joy. I challenge you to devote yourself to the Lord first, and then to others--your neighbors and church members, visit those in the hospital, and even make moves to restore your relationship with your children. Make an effort to be happy, and joy will be yours.

    Matthew 11:28-30

    28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

    29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.

    30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.
  • Richard H Priday - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Concluding thoughts

    This reminds us of Gideon when he asked the angel whose side are you on and he said "the Lord's side." ( Joshua 5:13-15). As with anything else the attitudes of the heart are more important than a surface level of the law. Or; in order to do what was expected "obedience is better than sacrifice." ( 1 Samuel 15:22). This is why certain functions were only done by priests. Christ Himself; of course was fully God and fully man; certainly the Creator could do as He wished. Mercy and compassion were used over and over to the obstinate Pharisees who Christ would frequently bother doing miracles on the Sabbath. Luke 14:5 shows that compassion to an animal is a "work" that someone with compassion would do if an animal fell in a pit. ( Proverbs 12:10-12).

    The law until the church was established was still in effect; and people were told to do what was required but not the way the Pharisees did as they were full of hypocrisy. ( Matthew 23:23). The law now was summarized by Christ by loving God with all your heart; soul; mind and strength and loving your neighbor as yourself ( Luke 10:27). We are asked now in the N.T. NOT to follow "holy days" and such ( Galatians 4:9-10). Some say there is controversy there; but it is clear that Paul did meet on the first day of the week ( Acts 20:7); and collections were to be prepared that day ( 1 Cor. 16:2). At the very least; the Son of man being lord of the Sabbath trumps any earlier Sabbath laws since we are under a New Covenant as to having to meet Saturdays.

    It would appear that Sunday worship was established; although I will not argue that it is to be substituted for what was Saturday worship; or it is wrong any day to gather for corporate worship. The effect of the law certainly doesn't bring a death penalty. However; many laws that did (the clearest being murder) hasn't helped society today with it's lawlessness; clearly.

    Once He comes in the Millennium; He will rule with a rod of iron and enforce law.
  • Chris - In Reply on Proverbs 14 - 2 years ago
    Hello Tabitha. I would share the following Scriptures:

    1 Corinthians 11:3; Proverbs 12:4; Proverbs 14:1; Proverbs 19:14; Proverbs 31:10-31; Titus 2:3-5; 1 Peter 3:1-4.
  • Ronnette - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Isaiah 44:11 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    Behold, all his fellows shall be ashamed: and the workmen, they are of men: let them all be gathered together, let them stand up; yet they shall fear, and they shall be ashamed together.

    Jeremiah 6:15 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    Were they ashamed when they had committed abomination? nay, they were not at all ashamed, neither could they blush: therefore they shall fall among them that fall: at the time that I visit them they shall be cast down, saith the LORD.

    Psalms 119:80 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    Let my heart be sound in thy statutes; that I be not ashamed.

    Romans 10:11 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

    Psalms 25:20 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    O keep my soul, and deliver me: let me not be ashamed; for I put my trust in thee.

    Psalms 119:6 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    Then shall I not be ashamed, when I have respect unto all thy commandments.

    Job 19:3 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    These ten times have ye reproached me: ye are not ashamed that ye make yourselves strange to me.

    Psalms 119:116 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    Uphold me according unto thy word, that I may live: and let me not be ashamed of my hope.

    Proverbs 12:4 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    A virtuous woman is a crown to her husband: but she that maketh ashamed is as rottenness in his bones.

    Psalms 31:1 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    (To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David.) In thee, O LORD, do I put my trust; let me never be ashamed: deliver me in thy righteousness.

    2 Timothy 2:15 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
  • BSP on Proverbs 12 - 2 years ago
    God hates those who continually lie. We must stop to think before we speak and be concerned with what we say.
  • Daniel Lindenbaum - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Agreed with brother Marke here.

    God had really only designated souls (Earthbound) to mankind. Now, does that mean animals should be treated without care or less? By no means.

    Proverbs 12:10 - A righteous man regardeth the life of his beast: but the tender mercies of the wicked are cruel.

    Proverbs 27:23 - Be thou diligent to know the state of thy flocks, and look well to thy herds.

    Knowing there is also no mention of a heaven for animals the same. The best you can do (especially if they're your pets) is to treat them with love and care as this is the only side of the grave they were created for. There's something particularly sweet about those who have mercy for God's creation.
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Matthew 25:31-46, Matthew 7, James 3, Job 6:24, Psalms 12:3-8, Psalms 15, Psalms 57, Proverbs 6:16-19, Proverbs 12:18, Isaiah 54:17, 1Peter 3:10, 1Corinthians 6:19,20, but also in context helpful hopefully to your other questions 1Corinthians 6:9-20,

    Hopefully these scriptures encourage you & are helpful

    Roots of many addictions are pain, if it's you or someone you dearly love:

    Adam gave sound advice.

    GOD can deliver from every addiction but 1st that person has to want deliverance. There are some cases I've heard testimony that GOD delivered instantly, others take persistence, prayer, fasting & steps of good decisions, each day.
  • Free - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Beloved "Shane A" Proverbs 12:13 The wicked is snared by the transgression of his lips: but the just shall come out of trouble.

    Amen
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Proverbs 14 - 2 years ago
    The translation that quotes Proverbs 14:30, the way you quoted is within some translations of the "New International Version" Bible.

    The Jerusalem Bible 1970 translation says"The life of the body is a tranquil heart,"

    Hopefully these scriptures will also help. James 3:18, Proverbs 12:20, Isaiah 26:3, inside this translation
  • Donna - In Reply on Proverbs 12 - 3 years ago
    Tony, I'm sorry that you lost your loved ones and are on drugs. I'm really glad that you quit for a week. I know the Lord is tugging at your heart cuz you picked up your Bible and cried. I went through the same thing at Different times in my life. And God brought me out and delivered me. But I never gave up on him. And he never gave up on me just like he said in his word. He'll never leave us or for sake us. He should've left me along time ago but he didn't and I love him for it. I have a friend named Tony that I'm praying for. Don't give up on God. He won't give up on you. Even when the devil tries to make you think God doesn't want you anymore . God does want you. I'm praying for you tonight.
  • Amarin - In Reply - 3 years ago
    God values human life more than animal life, but animals must be treated with mercy and respect.

    Please read the following Bible verses:

    Matthew 6:26

    Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they?

    Luke 12:6

    Are not five sparrows sold for two farthings, and not one of them is forgotten before God?

    Proverbs 12:10

    A righteous man regardeth the life of his beast: but the tender mercies of the wicked are cruel."

    So killing a pet is troublesome because it suggests that the animal has shown kindness to the owner.
  • Rick - In Reply on Proverbs 12 - 3 years ago
    Hi Tony The beginning of your answer Romans 10:9+10 and believe in your Heart!
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Proverbs 12 - 3 years ago
    Tony,

    I just wanted to add to discussion, Proverbs 12:28, Proverbs 3:11-12,

    Pray "FATHER GOD ALMIGHTY deliver me from all addiction, restrain me, sustain me, direct, me guide me, help me LORD."

    I will & have prayed with you in agreement on this. I also pray for healing in every way. Matthew 18:18-20, John 14:12-15,

    Psalms 22:24, Psalms 145:16-19,

    Advice stop talking, texting, meeting & calling those who lead u in wrong directions, & habits. Flee!! Psalms 143:9,

    Psalms 51:2,

    Psalms 139, read this when you feel alone & hold tight to GOD & HIS promises, cry out to HIM. HE does deliver, HE does heal.
  • GiGi - In Reply on Proverbs 12 - 3 years ago
    Dear Tony,

    You have suffered great losses in your family members in such a sort time. I am sorry for your loss and will pray for you. I pray that You God, the God of all comfort will comfort you today and every day that you are sorrowful. I pray that the Spirit will help you overcome your sense of loss and your propensity to use drugs and alcohol. Lord Jesus, deliver Tony from these substances and the power behind the dependency. Direct people to Tony who can help him in this battle and direct Tony away from anyone who will lead him to stumble in his daily walk in sobriety and faith in you. I am thankful, Lord that you draw near to the brokenhearted and those wo can not help themselves overcome their troubles. Only You are able to completely defeat what is warring with Tony. We trust you to accomplish this great deliverance in Your Holy Name, Jesus Christ.
  • Adam - In Reply on Proverbs 12 - 3 years ago
    Hi Tony, maybe God is sending you a message to fill your emptiness with Him rather than try to temporary numb the pain which you probably already know never solves the problem and only makes things worse overall.

    You might consider giving your burden and your heart to God. This page has some steps that might be helpful, whether you're a new, or just coming back to the faith, or unsure: Link

    You can find support here, but its even better to find support in person like a grief group you can meet with. Please don't try to face it alone. You have God, but you can also seek support through groups. It takes effort and is scary going the first time but if you commit to at least a 4 sessions to give it a full effort before giving up you will be doing yourself a favor. You may also consider meeting with a church pastor- call a church office secretary to set that up. It's free. People are there to help you get through your grief and loss. Many others have lost loved ones too and can relate. Sorry for your loss. If you hang in there and make a few of these steps you will be a much better place.
  • BelieveInJesus - In Reply on Proverbs 12 - 3 years ago
    Verse 25 Heaviness in the heart of man maketh it stoop: but a good word maketh it glad.

    So I will give you a good word brother :)

    Are you saved ? Have you believed in the Lord Jesus Christ alone for your salvation ?

    If so here is another bible verse:

    Psalms 27:14

    "Wait on the LORD: be of good courage, and he shall strengthen thine heart: wait, I say, on the LORD."

    The Lord will help you just BELIEVE on him and wait for him !

    I pray for you my friend !
  • Tony on Proverbs 12 - 3 years ago
    I'm so lost I am struggling with drugs and the loss of my sister mother and brother in 3 years and I got sober for a week!!! No drink or anything but I'm crying at 6 am and I grabbed my bible and it said proverbs chapter 12!! Why
  • Fear Not. Be Strong in the Power of Jesus. - In Reply - 3 years ago
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    Mark, this is what you're dealing with. I've gone through this myself. No more despairing. You have to stand up against IT. And it thinks it can take you down. Just as Ezekiel had to do in chapter 37, SPEAK OUT: in Jesus Name and by the power of his authority, I come against YOU, spirit of heaviness; I BIND your evil plans against me and in the name of Jesus of Nazareth I reject you and cast you into outer darkness to wander, forever. I forbid your return. I am a blood bought child of the Most High God! I am covered in Jesus Blood. Let me go!!!

    it's personality

    Spirit of Heaviness [a demon]

    Manifestations - Excessive Mourning, Sorrow-Grief, Insomnia, Self- Pity, Rejection, Broken-Heart, Despair-Dejection-Hopelessness, Depression, Suicidal Thoughts, Inner Hurts that won't heal.

    Study The Enemy of Tour Soul:

    Heaviness Scriptures: ( Isaiah 61:3; Luke 4:18; Nehemiah 2:2; Proverbs 15:13; Psalms 69:20; Proverbs 12:18; 15:3,13; 18:14; Luke 4:18; 2 Corinthians 1:8-9; Isaiah 61:3; Mark 9; Luke 4:18; Proverbs 18:14; 26:22)

    ITS ROOTS "The Works of the Flesh," Galatians 5:19-21.

    By their fruits you will know all men, Matt 7:20.

    According to Matthew 6:10; 11:12; 12:29; 16:18; 18:18; 28:18

    Bind: Spirit of Heaviness

    Loose: Comforter-Holy Spirit, Garment of Praise, Oil of Joy, John 15:26; Isaiah 61:3

    I know people like their own tunes, but this works for me. Listen to: Kingdom in the Streets by DION. It's on YouTube. OR, "IN 3D". Listen sometimes to Spiritual Warfare Scriptures. Type that in on YouTube and they will build up your faith. Praise will get you out of that Valley of Dry Bonesstand up on your feet and shake your fist at Heaviness.

    He has to leave. He cannot cross the bloodline of Jesus's Blood. Jesus was cool when satan was tempting Him. He just fired off some scriptures.

    You're gonna slay this Giant! Praise will get you through. Just trust me on this.

    Mishael
  • PART 2. Stages of Christian Life__mishael - In Reply on Revelation 14 - 3 years ago
    because they don't know how to walk in the ways of God for themselves. Similarly, there comes a time in every Christian's life when he has to learn to do things for himself. David said, "Surely I have behaved and quieted myself, as a child that is weaned of his mother: my soul is even as a weaned child" ( Ps. 131:2).

    In a church I served, there were two older ladies who were spiritual babies. Even though they had been saved for a long time and were baptized in the Holy Spirit and spoke in tongues, they were the biggest babies in our church. They needed a lot of attention and would miss church on Sunday just so I would visit them on Monday!

    Christians ought to grow up enough so that they don't always need someone to visit them, pump them up, pray for them, and feed them. They need to grow up so they can help somebody else.

    EPHESIANS 4:14. CHILDHOOD

    14 That we henceforth be no more children.

    Children can be a handful! They are often curious and like to get into things. One time I came in with a sack and put it on the kitchen table. In no time at all, one of my young granddaughters was in the sack, wanting to know what was in it. Spiritually immature children get into things too. They poke their noses in places where they shouldn't. They are always in other people's business. Another thing about children is that they have never learned the value of silence.

    Sometimes people say something hurtful and afterward say, "Oh, I was only joking." No, they weren't! They were being mean and hurtful with their words and then were trying to cover it up by saying it was a joke. Proverbs 12:18 (NIV) says, "Reckless words pierce like the sword, but the tongue of the wise brings healing." Psalm 141:3 says, "Set a watch, O Lord, before my mouth; keep the door of my lips." We need to watch what comes out of our mouth. Our words should lift others up, not tear them down ( Eph. 4:29).

    We were wounded and needed help. Proverb 18:14, Is. 53:5. Be quick to forgive yourself.
  • ThaddousG on Proverbs 12:11 - 3 years ago
    Be sensible and work your job. It's okay to have a dream but don't leave your sure thing to follow after fleeting pleasures; in the which most are built upon vain fantasies that may or may not come true. Good reference scripture for this verse is 1 Timothy 8-10 and Proverbs 23:4. Also I think the other translations for this scripture are great in conjunction with this one!
  • Alyson Lindsey on Proverbs 12 - 3 years ago
    Even Jesus asked why? I'm learning to bite my tongue and wait for the world to go back to a state of equilibrium. I tell myself don't ask why.

    If I have patience God will guide me.
  • Lorraine - In Reply on Proverbs 12 - 3 years ago
    Thanks!

    It is a great idea what you said here!

    I will do that!

    God Bless your day!

    1st Cor.10:13

    Lorr


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