It gives me joy to see your posts again. Your presence here was sorely missed. You are most definitely a very special and important member in the body of Christ. Helping us all grow in the Word of God.
Good morning all, God Bless our hearts today in inspiration and conviction. Tomorrow here, my two older children will have a nice group of of their peer brothers and sisters over in the early evening (mom and dad are hoping outside). These young people love each other in a special way because they all know Jesus. Hope another day of discussion goes well.
I agree, these verses seem to negate each other & the more studious types have not been able to come to agreement on their meaning.
I can only understand verse 4 to mean: whatever answer or explanation one tries to give one who is irrational, unreasonable, imbecilic, & other choice adjectives, can only mean that one will descend into the same state of a never-ending argument that will not profit the foolish enquirer & bring on greater despair to the responder.
Yet, verse 5 could mean: rather than trying to explain the matter rationally with an irrational person, one could answer him directly & sternly to expose his folly so that the forceful word might just alert him to his pitiful condition & mental deficiency which might cause him to take the strong word to heart.
In other words, the 'foolish' person might have more chance of responding to a direct command or warning than to listening to a well prepared explanation, which would do him no good.
The Holy Scriptures when rightly divided always answers for itself. Therefore being in agreement with responses viewed in regards to Proverbs 24:4-5. The simplicity of scripture reveals in the next book Ecclesiastes 3:7 ", a time to be silent and a time to speak". In one biblical example: Jesus "my Lord and Savior" said nothing to defend the woman who was taken in adultery, "the very act", per her accusers. However, Jesus knew their foolishness was not concerned about the adulterous act. They attempted to invoke the old testament passage, Deut 17:5 which clearly say, "to bring the man and the woman,,,,". So where was the man? Therefore, Christ silence was knowing when not to answer. However, when they began to press him of what He says should be done, Now, they're bringing into light the thoughts of GOD to which Christ being the Word broke his silence to address their foolishness so they could go no further in this by simply saying, "He among you who is without sin, let him first cast a stone at her". The rest of the story is known. It is proper to allow scripture to interpret scripture in that way it's The LORD answering for what we believe to His Word. GOD Bless!
There 'IS' a time to answer a fool as the very next verse says in Proverbs 26:5, "..lest he become puffed up (or wise) in his conceit/deceit.." Amen? Amen!
by so doing we truly become Christ like or 'Christian'. Search the scriptures ( John 5:39) and see how Jesus responded to his accusers. Meek is strength (in The Lord) & not weak!
I think people often ask the question about their pets being in heaven, because they want to be with them and that's what they imagine joy to be. What I don't understand about the question is that it sounds like an interview question- that if they find out their pets might not be there then they might not want to follow Jesus or be a Christian or go to heaven? To me, that's illogical, because we already know heaven will be infinitely ma real Christian? The best day on earth would be a million times greater in heaven.
Secondly, the Bible is absent of any scriptures saying pets will be in heaven so its pure baseless speculation to say one way or the other.
Third, I think it's silly to say all animals go to heaven and all of them have souls and can sin. So, annoying flies, mosquitos and ticks will be in heaven? And a dung beetle or a bacterium or hammerhead shark will read the Bible and go to heaven because they followed Jesus and avoided sin? There is an enormous difference between humans and other animals- we have souls and make thoughtful moral decisions and about right and wrong.
You can't prove that animals don't sin. You don't know their heart. Sin only lies in the heart and concsience of every being and cannot be seen by anyone
There was a man called George Muller of Bristol , England
Back in the eighteen hundreds.
I have read of many famous Christian or said to be Christians . And GM impressed me the most by his testimony and Godly living . I highly recommend anyone looking into his life , much of it is available on line . God answered all his prayers large and small , he was a man of the Bible , he went to seminary and could speak 5 or more languages.
He stated that he could learn more reading the Bible being led by the Holy Spirit in a few hrs than a month in seminary .
A must read for any serious student , he shares his methods of prayer and reading the Bible , priceless knowledge, you will learn something, he was a Bible man . My kind of person !
If dogs don't go to Heaven then why did Jesus say the lion will lay by the lamb? They're animals also. God loves all of us and wants us to do His will and not be foolish or slothful. Praise Jesus!!
Practice makes perfect on Proverbs 26 - 4 years ago
Proverbs teaching is regarding behavior, what we should and should not be doing. All of this takes practice. Once you come into the Knowledge of things, then we're held responsible for our actions. Eventually these teachings will be a part of who we are, and we will find it difficult not to comply. After practicing these teachings, it eventually becomes a part of who we are, and we will no longer want to do things out of God's will, and will begin to understand more and more what these teachings are about, Thank You Jesus for saving me....
The Bible has much to say about fools. The word fool today usually means "a senseless fellow, a bad character. The biblical definition has the added dimension of "someone who disregards God's Word."
The Bible lists many characteristics of such a person, often contrasting him with one who is wise. Ecclesiastes 10:2 says, "The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the FOOL to the left."
A fool is one whose wayward heart turns continually toward foolishness. "Fools speak foolishness and make evil plans" ( Isaiah 32:6).
Proverbs 26:11 says, "As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly."
Fools do not learn their lessons from the mistakes they make. They continue doing the same foolish things over and over again, to their own destruction ( Proverbs 18:7).
The following is a partial list of some characteristics of a fool from the BOOK OF
PROVERBS:
A fool hates knowledge (1:22)
Takes no pleasure in understanding (18:2)
Enjoys wicked schemes ( Proverbs 10:23)
Proclaims folly ( Proverbs 12:23)
Spurns a parent's discipline (15:5)
Speaks perversity (19:1), is quick-tempered (12:16), gets himself in trouble with his proud speech (14:3) mocks at sin (14:9), is deceitful (14:8)
Despises his mother (15:20). A foolish child brings grief to his or her parents (17:25; 19:13)
A foolish man commits sexual immorality (6:32; 7:7-12)
A foolish woman tears down her own house (14:1).
(The worst of all). Psalm 14:1
The fool hath said in his heart, THERE IS NO GOD. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works; there is none that does good.
The fool described above either knowing or not knowing nevertheless is entrapped by foolishness, a powerful addictive destructive tool used to kill steal and destroy others and the fool themselves in the end. The slothful or slugger is a just as addictive and destructive. Note... one day a Rattle Snake crawl behind me while repairing a plow. It was my chose to move away from it or play with it.
Not that i ever wondered where animals went after they died...i just didn't know they didn't live again or that they didn't necessarily go to heaven.....
This chapter is all about fools or foolishness don't judge other people like others in this chapter did don't lie a lot of times then when it actually happens no one will believe you just tell the truth all the time in the name of the Lord
Proverbs 26:17 "He that passes by, and meddles with strife belonging not to him, is like one that takes a dog by the ears." Like the one who answers a matter before he hears it, those who butt in to other people's business, and then presume to take sides without first knowing the matter; are looking to get bit. There's too much misguided tolerance of false teaching and open opposition to the Word
I go to work and have to listen to people talk about and make fun of handicap people and other, I have to read this psalm 37 to be able to let it go and give it to God..I fell sorry for them because they are blind to their ignorance. I also have to read proverbs 26:4 and remind myself not to let them get me caught up in their folly, I read proverbs 26:4 as only a fool will listen to a fool.
It gives me joy to see your posts again. Your presence here was sorely missed. You are most definitely a very special and important member in the body of Christ. Helping us all grow in the Word of God.
God Bless you brother.
Thank you.
I can only understand verse 4 to mean: whatever answer or explanation one tries to give one who is irrational, unreasonable, imbecilic, & other choice adjectives, can only mean that one will descend into the same state of a never-ending argument that will not profit the foolish enquirer & bring on greater despair to the responder.
Yet, verse 5 could mean: rather than trying to explain the matter rationally with an irrational person, one could answer him directly & sternly to expose his folly so that the forceful word might just alert him to his pitiful condition & mental deficiency which might cause him to take the strong word to heart.
In other words, the 'foolish' person might have more chance of responding to a direct command or warning than to listening to a well prepared explanation, which would do him no good.
by so doing we truly become Christ like or 'Christian'. Search the scriptures ( John 5:39) and see how Jesus responded to his accusers. Meek is strength (in The Lord) & not weak!
Kol tuv i.e. be well :-)
Secondly, the Bible is absent of any scriptures saying pets will be in heaven so its pure baseless speculation to say one way or the other.
Third, I think it's silly to say all animals go to heaven and all of them have souls and can sin. So, annoying flies, mosquitos and ticks will be in heaven? And a dung beetle or a bacterium or hammerhead shark will read the Bible and go to heaven because they followed Jesus and avoided sin? There is an enormous difference between humans and other animals- we have souls and make thoughtful moral decisions and about right and wrong.
God bless...
Back in the eighteen hundreds.
I have read of many famous Christian or said to be Christians . And GM impressed me the most by his testimony and Godly living . I highly recommend anyone looking into his life , much of it is available on line . God answered all his prayers large and small , he was a man of the Bible , he went to seminary and could speak 5 or more languages.
He stated that he could learn more reading the Bible being led by the Holy Spirit in a few hrs than a month in seminary .
A must read for any serious student , he shares his methods of prayer and reading the Bible , priceless knowledge, you will learn something, he was a Bible man . My kind of person !
Lord Jesus Christ we ask that you help everyone who is suicidal.
Guide them so they may receive the help that they need.
Protect them.
Prevent them from dying by suicide.
We need them. We love them.
Let them feel our love, and your love, Lord Jesus.
Lord, we ask that you comfort the suicide survivors.
Remind them that they are very special people.
Remind them that they are loved.
Fill their minds with beautiful memories of their angels.
Provide them with everything that they need Lord.
Ease their pain.
Give them hope.
Give them comfort.
Give them guidance.
Help them heal.
And help them in every way possible.
Let them feel our love, and your love, Lord Jesus.
And let their angels carry them on their wings when they are weary.
Lord, we pray for the angels to minister life to the heirs of salvation.
They are with you now, Lord, in Paradise.
These angels are among the highest angels in Heaven.
Their wings are magnificent and their beauty is beyond imagination.
Their love shines bright.
Embrace this child, Lord Jesus, with your love.
And let their love continue to shine down upon us.
We ask this in Jesus Name, Amen.
More info on this prayer site:
Suicide dot org
The Bible has much to say about fools. The word fool today usually means "a senseless fellow, a bad character. The biblical definition has the added dimension of "someone who disregards God's Word."
The Bible lists many characteristics of such a person, often contrasting him with one who is wise. Ecclesiastes 10:2 says, "The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the FOOL to the left."
A fool is one whose wayward heart turns continually toward foolishness. "Fools speak foolishness and make evil plans" ( Isaiah 32:6).
Proverbs 26:11 says, "As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly."
Fools do not learn their lessons from the mistakes they make. They continue doing the same foolish things over and over again, to their own destruction ( Proverbs 18:7).
The following is a partial list of some characteristics of a fool from the BOOK OF
PROVERBS:
A fool hates knowledge (1:22)
Takes no pleasure in understanding (18:2)
Enjoys wicked schemes ( Proverbs 10:23)
Proclaims folly ( Proverbs 12:23)
Spurns a parent's discipline (15:5)
Speaks perversity (19:1), is quick-tempered (12:16), gets himself in trouble with his proud speech (14:3) mocks at sin (14:9), is deceitful (14:8)
Despises his mother (15:20). A foolish child brings grief to his or her parents (17:25; 19:13)
A foolish man commits sexual immorality (6:32; 7:7-12)
A foolish woman tears down her own house (14:1).
(The worst of all). Psalm 14:1
The fool hath said in his heart, THERE IS NO GOD. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works; there is none that does good.
Proverbs 26:17: He that passeth by, and meddleth with strife belonging not to him, is like one that taketh a dog by the ears.