Discuss Proverbs 6

  • Richard H Priday - 8 months ago
    Prophets today: Continued

    In the Old Testament; there were 2 types of roles for a Prophet. In 1 Chronicles 21:9-13 we have Gad who is David's "seer".

    He was given the task of telling David after the Satanically inspired census that there were 3 punishments that would result.

    He had no need at that time apparently to mention what the punishment was for as David apparently realized the error of his ways. That is different than Nathan the Prophet at the time he took Bathsheeba as his wife and had Uriah the Hittite set up to die on the front lines in 2 Samuel 11. It would seem that Proverbs 6:34 showed Solomon's wisdom in avoiding showing feigned favor to the husband of a woman someone else is involved with; perhaps it was inspired from what happened in part with David and his mother years previous.

    The second role was more of a general statement of future events covered in much of the "major prophets" such as Daniel; Jeremiah; Isaiah and Ezekiel and the minor ones (with smaller overall text) such as Zechariah; Zephaniah; etc.

    I am no expert on the office of Prophet today but it seems cessationists may say a Pastor teaching from the Word is also in that type of ministry. I would also say that those who use the Word only as a warning could be in that category. The controversy is if these "signs and wonders" gifts have ceased. I would first eliminate all the pretenders who clearly make things up from their imaginations and false prophets and those who have no factual basis or vary vague statements about persons or events that are very subjective. We are also warned that should someone say something that doesn't come to pass OR that DOES but incites us to worship a false God is to be ignored and kicked out of any church if they try to do this. (See Deut. 18:22 and Deut. 13:2).

    We must also avoid fear of things to come. Someone telling the truth should offer some hope even in the worst warnings. The biggest red flag is always predicting prosperity.
  • Chris - In Reply - 9 months ago
    Hi BillyRay. Proverbs 6:17 will answer your first question; with verses 16-19 describing the 'seven things that are an abomination to God'. I can't think of a specific verse to answer your second question, though James 2:10 comes to mind: "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all."

    As with anything that comes into our minds, whether to lie, lust or whatever, when we it begins to take hold, to affect our minds & consciences, we must deal with it speedily, in the power of the Spirit lest it becomes sin & we offend our Heavenly Father. Yet, there is forgiveness if we earnestly repent of it & seek to cast it aside ( 1 John 1:9).
  • Richard H Priday - 10 months ago
    Witnessing today in today's culture: Introduction

    Today people are often identified by their political affiliation or the community that they identify as "politically correct". In reality this often makes a particular sin the sum of their identity (such as those in the pro choice or same sex attraction crowd.) We don't see such titles given for individuals committing such activities in scripture; where infanticide was performed by those who would identify as idol worshippers (Molech worshippers for example); or sodomites would often be classified by their social status as to who was the perpetrator and who was the victim of such atrocities in the time of Christ. 1 Kings 14:24 talks in general about sodomites and the abominations that they were involved with; and it seems that they did live in the same area as we see with the story of Sodom and Gomorrah thousands of years before Christ.

    We need to take heart; as we see in the story of Jonah that even the most wicked people can repent. Today it seems mainly with individuals who are "detransitioning" for instance that the Lord indeed can change people; and when we see legislation against preaching such truths those who used to live that lifestyle of course are most affected. 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 identifies those now sanctified as believers who used to live sinful lifestyles. While it is true that there are particular sins; such as shedding of innocent blood that God particularly hates ( Proverbs 6:16-19); all sin leads to death. Clearly at this point the world doesn't celebrate someone who identifies themselves as a thief; extortioner; murderer and some other things but we should expect that it will once we get to the Tribulation or perhaps sooner when "anyone who kills you will think that they are doing God a favor." ( John 16:2).

    We need also to get beyond the stereotypes the world is giving us of those in the LGBTQ+. Some are conservatives and some liberal politically for instance. More later.
  • BJGibson - In Reply - 11 months ago
    There are six (6) things the Lord hates and the 7th is an abomination. In my reply I want to try and unpack, if you will, each one separate replies. "These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:" Proverbs 6:16 KJV

    The next verse entails:

    "A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood," Proverbs 6:17 KJV

    A cross reference scripture to this verse:

    "Lying lips are abomination to the LORD: but they that deal truly are his delight." Proverbs 12:22 KJV

    In this scripture verse, God informs man to be truthful in dealing with all others and especially God, since God knows all things and knows when man is being truthful. God informs man to be fair to others. Man shouldn't lie to others to get the advantage or to gain a sense of superiority over others, which could result in having a proud look due to an inward feeling of being puff up, creating a feeling that one is better than the other. When humanity finds itself having the need or want of being better than others then this is when the believer needs to ask God for help, for deliverance from the desire to feel better than others. Its a feeling and its also deceptive because no one is better than the other. Having gifts, abilities and callings does not make one better than the other. Since God blesses man with these gifts they are to be used to help others for the glory of God and not man get the glory for what God has endowed. God has a righteous way of using man to work His good works through others. The Holy Spirit given by God can deliver man from lying to himself and deliver Him from also from lying to others.

    I hope this reply will be prayerfully received. Peace be multiplied, in Jesus Name, Amen.
  • Kush on Proverbs 6:16 - 1 year ago
    Note that 6:34-35 is referring to "a man" which would be too presumptions to indicate that it is referring to a jealous husband of a harlot!?, wherein many commentaries seem to suggest. For, why would such a jealous (good) husband be so enraged over a harlot, supposedly his wife!?. Nay. However, in view of the subject mater proceeding these two verses and, as it were comparing scripture with scripture, it seems much more likely that 6:34-35 is pointing to "a man" that (evil) prince that shall come in Daniel 9:26-27.
  • Richard H Priday - 1 year ago
    I have; after a suggestion by a sister in Christ on this site, endeavored to start a series on the attributes of God. I thought I could go from "a to z"; although I don't have anything in the "X" or "Z" letters; unless someone else can come up with something.

    The first thing I came up with was anger which is not normally something people begin with in studying God; but perhaps a topic that needs discussion. God is clearly angry with the wicked every day ( Psalm 7:11). That verse also says that He judges the righteous.

    In discussing God's reaction toward a saved individual as "chastisement" and the wicked as anger; we see a different outcome ultimately with believers not being damned every time they sin to hell. Nonetheless even with chastisement we can't say that God isn't angry. A father can be angry with a child with righteous indignation; and God as our Father certainly is upset when we grieve the Spirit ( Ephesians 4:30). Sin is sin; we clearly can't use grace as an excuse to sin more ( Romans 6:1-2). The REASON for His anger is different to some respect IF we are His children. We are as believers TRULY dead to our old nature; and if Satan attempts to renew our sinful behaviors it is foreign to our new nature; thus the Spirit contends against the flesh. ( Gal. 5:17). It is contrary to who we are in Christ DEAD TO SIN ( Galatians 2:20) if we sin as believers. If we really deceive ourselves then the truth is not in us ( 1 John 1:8). Thus without the Lord we are still dead in sins and trespasses ( Eph. 2:1); and if we do believe there is still potential for the old man to rise up but no NEED for it to happen if we continue to walk in the Spirit we will not satisfy the desires of the flesh ( Gal. 5:16). Clearly Galatians 5 in particular is a good read for that subject.

    There are some things which God particularly hates ( Proverbs 6:16-19) and one he loathes (same idea). God also hates divorce ( Malachi 2:16). Anger and hatred are justified for God
  • Frankie J - In Reply - 1 year ago
    David0921

    I don't know which website you personally found this, I've stated a few times the writing of the Quakers, specifically between 1646-1700.

    But,

    Lets look at what you found & quoted:

    ""That leads us to the second key principle, our belief in continued revelation. In the Hebrew Bible and the New Testament, we read many stories of God communicating directly with people. Friends believe God's revelations have never stopped, and that God might reach out to any one of us at any time."



    They're referencing the Bible, it does not say anything concerning addition or subtraction from the Scriptures was made. Could it be an opening of their understanding of the Scriptures? This would be a continuing revelation as the Scriptures give witness to. John 16:13 1Cor 3:2

    God must be free to speak to the relevant things in our lives & society, this would be a revelation too!

    David0921

    You're the one who are injecting this prejudice opinion of Divine Revelation apart from the Bible that's no were stated here in your quote!

    One other thing that been on my heart to speak to you, if you would just open yourself to Holy Spirit & allow Him to speak, move & work in you His own Way, & that would be spiritually, what a bond-servant Christ would have for Himself in you. His Spirit was sent to replace Christ manifestation in the flesh, John 16:7 to teach us all things, is not a lie, & to be ever present with us, I've been pointing this out Scripturally over & over, but it appears that for now it is hidden from you, for you have not had enough humble pie from you last "no visions or dreams statement.

    Friend; just for the record, I've had many, many, many humble pies through the years, His longsuffering love was exceedingly extend towards me, blessing & praise to His Holy Name.

    Proverbs 6:23 1 Pet 5:5

    In love & truth
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi Jema, thank you.

    This is just my opinion; when Adam and Eve ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil the knowledge of imagination entered, and we see how imagination of thoughts became the desires of the flesh. Imagination makes it possible to experience a whole world inside the mind. One can imagine a sound, taste, smell, physical sensation, feeling, emotion. Fantasy becomes reality in our mind.

    We see in scripture its effects Genesis 6:5 Proverbs 6:18 Jeremiah 13:10 it battles against our conscience, and it suckers us into the belief it is a secret in our minds, it's ok because no one knows. But as David told Solomon God knows the hearts of all, 1 Chronicles 28:9.

    Technology is good and beneficial to man but in our imagination, it is intoxicating and addictive, it can create a world with no limits and Satan uses it for his evil and it may be a key to the seduction of the beast and false prophet who are coming. Deceived has a scary and deceptive description, to be taken out of the way, the sad thing someone may not even know it. Galatians 6:7-10

    It is like the poem the spider to the fly. "Will you walk into my parlour said the spider to the fly; Tis the prettiest little parlour that ever you did spy". A temptation that looks innocent, but death lurks hidden inside.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Serica campbell on Proverbs 6 - 1 year ago
    Proverbs talk about a man committing adultery but I have not seen where it have talk about the woman. Does the verse not go for both genders?
  • T Levis - In Reply on Isaiah 30 - 1 year ago
    Proverbs 6:16-19, Proverbs 11:1,

    Leviticus 18, note the whole chapter, ending with Leviticus 18:30, Leviticus 20, Deuteronomy 7:25-26, please read in context Deuteronomy 7, Deuteronomy 12:28-32, Deuteronomy 13, Deuteronomy 18:9-22, Deuteronomy 22:5, Deuteronomy 23:17,18, Deuteronomy 24:1-4, Deuteronomy 27:15, Deuteronomy 25,

    Leviticus 11, Proverbs 3:32, Proverbs 11:20,

    1Kings 11:1-14, 2Kings 23:13, Proverbs 16:12, Proverbs 28:9,

    Proverbs 12:22, Proverbs 15:8,9,26, Proverbs 17:15,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • Browneyes878787 - In Reply on Isaiah 30 - 1 year ago
    Proverbs 6:16-19 lists seven things which are also abominations: "haughty eyes, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked schemes, feet that are swift in running to mischief, a false witness who utters lies, and one who spreads strife among brothers."
  • Adam - In Reply on Proverbs 24 - 2 years ago
    Hello, laws are laws too, but also have very different degrees of severity from accidental theft to mass murder. In a court of law, assuming no political bias, if judges are honest they will punish one way more severely than the other.

    I see no evidence that God views sin differently. Sin is sin, but sins are likewise very different in severity. Some who love sin may be incentivized to say something like "sin is sin" to try to downplay their own sins and disgrace to God.

    I couldn't find any verses saying that all sins are the same, but found verses saying sins are different:

    John 19:11

    Also, Jesus clearly says that all sins can be forgiven except for one and if you commit that sin then you will NOT be forgiven. Matthew 12:31-32 So violating this seems to be a fast ticket to hell. In this age of assumed self-righteousness and hatred towards Jesus, this should be a wake up call and deeply scare some people.

    In Proverbs 6:16-19 God lists 6 sins He hates. This again, is another list separate from other sins.

    Already in these 3 verses we see different treatment of sin in terms of severity, so it would seem hard to conclude that mass murder is exactly the same as telling a white lie. God already tells us through these verses there is a difference.

    Some assume that James 2:10 suggests that all sin is the same, but that's not what it says. Those who by works try to be perfect and fulfill the "whole law" are going to fail, and even if someone violates 1 law of 1000 laws, for instance, someone obeying 99.9% of the law still is not fulfilling the "whole law" of 100% and is thus a sinner. This verse doesn't say all sins are exactly the same, but is about being a transgressor and not keeping the whole law.

    If anyone has any verses in the Bible saying "all sins are exactly the same" then we can look into this more, but I am not aware of any such verse in the Bible.

    2 Corinthians 5:10 is another verse on this topic.
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Lies & deceit : Leviticus 19:11, Psalms 5:6, Psalms 55:23, Psalms 58:3, Psalms 63:11, Psalms 101:7, Proverbs 6:16-19, Proverbs 19:5,9, Jeremiah 9:3-9, Isaiah 59, Micah 6, Colossians 3:9, Revelation 21, Revelation 22:15,

    Relevant today : Ezekiel 13:22,23

    Acts 5:1-10 in context Acts 4:32-37, continued into Acts 5,

    Wisdom about : Proverbs 14:5-25, Proverbs 29:12, John 8:42-44 in context John 8,

    Psalms 40:4, Isaiah 63:8, Zephaniah 3:13,
  • Luke - In Reply on Proverbs 6 - 2 years ago
    Proverbs 6

    God hate's those 6 things, but finds the 7th, he who sows discord among brethren, (morally) disgusting, a detestable act, an abOMiNation

    Discord:Tension or strife resulting from a lack of agreement; dissension.

    Lack of agreement among persons, groups, or things. synonym: conflict.

    Look up (strife) in scripture, it's the work of evil.
  • Kimberly Daley on Proverbs 6 - 2 years ago
    I would like to read more commentaries on these six things does the Lord hate: seven are an abomination.
  • S. Spencer - 2 years ago
    Brothers and Sisters.

    The clarity of scripture.

    Matthew 7:15-20.

    They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, "THAT THEY MIGHT BE MADE MANIFEST" that they were not all of us. 1 John 2:19.

    These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:

    A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,

    An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,

    A FALSE WITNESS THAT SPEAKETH LIES, AND HE THAT SOWETH DISCORD AMONG BRETHREN. Proverbs 6:16-19.

    Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.

    For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple. Romans 16:17-18.

    This is a faithful saying, and these things I will that thou affirm constantly, that they which have believed in God might be careful to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable unto men.

    But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain. Titus 3:8-9.

    These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.

    But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;

    How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.

    These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit. Jude 1:16-19.

    Matthew 7:15-20 !!

    1 Peter 5:9-11.

    Amen and God bless.
  • T. Levis - In Reply on 2 Thessalonians 3 - 2 years ago
    2Thessalonians 3:10-16, Proverbs 13:4, Job 34:11, Psalms 28:4, Psalms 62:12, 1Thessalonians 4:11

    Exodus 20:9,10, Exodus 23:12,

    Even to build the house of GOD takes work, 2Kings 12:11, 2Kings 22:5,9, 1Chronicles 9:33, Nehemiah 4:21,

    Proverbs 26:16, Proverbs 20:4, Proverbs 6:6-11, Proverbs 10:26,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • Daniel - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Suze a.k.a Free,

    Read my below comment. It's murder. You tell a story of someone starving themselves to death after rape as a subtle way of justify abortion (which is murder). There are people who've accidentally killed someone driving and starved themselves out of the depression and guilt. My wife is obviously a woman and she's got a stronger word against this than my own. But it's not about us. We react on emotion and sympathy and that's not how justice is determined in the Word of God.

    I'll quote this again but Proverbs 6:16 & 17

    "These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, "

    Our finite 'complaints' to justify abortion are bigger than God? God HATEs abortion. Who do you think the innocent were in Proverbs 6? They are an ABOMINATION unto him.

    So, like a stated below a woman is raped, this makes her a victim. Again a terrible thing and now she's a victim. The moment she commits abortion she's no longer a victim but a murderer. That's harsh but that's the reality of what we're trying to justify here. Let that sink in. God is bigger than our emotions, our situations and does not and will not ever support murder.
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Romans 12:19,

    Genesis 34, Levi & Simeon took vengeance, then were cursed by their father Jacob "Israel", Genesis 49:5-7,

    2Samuel 13, Absalom took vengeance for his sister, was away from his father & home several years, I counted 5 yrs, 3 in exile 2 more not allowed to see his father's face. 2Samuel 14:24,28,

    2Kings 24:4, Proverbs 6:16,17, Deuteronomy 19:10, Deuteronomy 27:25,

    There are several people who were conceived by rape, that have been amazing people to this world: Pastor James Robison of Life Outreach International who helps, feeds thousands & digs wells for clean water around the world in worst poverty-stricken places. Pastor Jack Hibbs,

    Dr. Mark Sherwood, who helps people achieve wellness & better health, written books also for better health. Julie Makimaa life activist, Layne Beachly 7 time World Champion Surfer, & several more Pastors, Martin Sheen's (the Actor) wife Janet Sheen, mother of Charlie Sheen, Emilio Esteves, Renee Esteves, & Ramon Esteves all Actors.

    Let's not disregard the right to life of an innocent human

    Hopefully these are all helpful
  • Daniel - In Reply - 2 years ago
    There is one single list in Scripture that comes to mind in response to your question: Proverbs 6:16-19.

    The list should be self-explanatory and not require commentary.

    You will not find a list of "seven deadly sins" delineated comprehensively in the Scripture; if I am not mistaken that is a fabrication of the Catholic church, if not an abstract "spiritual" principle present in pagan sects predating it.

    What you will find in Scripture is that all sin, outside of Christ, is deadly... All sin can also effectively be traced back to one single sin, namely, the pride of man. Pride deceives us. Pride keeps us from beleiving God's word.

    Conversely, all "righteousness" can be traced back to faith, and faith to humility. It was not without note that when Jesus' disciples asked him to increase their faith, he effectively responded to them, "increase *your* humility."
  • Demaricus - In Reply - 2 years ago
    the oil represents the commandments and the light is talking about the Torah proverbs 6:23
  • Relief from Memories - In Reply - 2 years ago
    The Spirit of Adoption has been by your side throughout your life.

    Psalms 27:10

    When my father and my mother forsake me, then the LORD will take me up.

    Proverbs 6:20

    My son, keep thy father's commandment, and forsake not the law of thy mother:

    Proverbs 1:8

    My son, hear the instruction of thy father, and forsake not the law of thy mother:

    Jesus spoke to John and his mother, from the Cross: behold your mother.

    What I perceive, is that at no time in your life were you without a Fathers love. You were adopted. And now you are Gods child through the Salvation of Jesus__which is eternal.

    (I think you might get some relief by watching a movie some people don't care for, because the actors have played other movie roles that were evil.)

    THE SHACK. In the scene inside the cave, he meets Wisdom. The the truth we suffer between judging and forgiveness is a wide canyon.

    I hope like me, you find relief from memories that fight to stay alive. I gave that movie to my brother.

    Someone once told me, "that God brings us to Himself, the easiest way we will come." He wants to heal our soul.

    Peace be with you, Mishael.
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Exodus 23:7, Deuteronomy 19:10, Deuteronomy 19:13, Deuteronomy 21:9 "So shalt thou put away the guilt of innocent blood from among you, when thou shalt do that which is right in the sight of the Lord." 2Kings 24:4,

    Deuteronomy 27:25 "cursed be he that taketh reward to slay an innocent person; and all the people shall say, Amen"

    Psalms 10:4,8, Psalms 106:33-48,

    Proverbs 6:16-17 "These sixe things doeth the Lord hate; yea seven are an abomination unto him: A proud looke, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood" .._

    Jeremiah 22:3, Jeremiah 2:34, Jeremiah 19:5,

    Joel 3:19,

    Hopefully these help.
  • Daniel - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Proverbs 6:16-19

    16 These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:

    17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,

    18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,

    19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

    The last part of vs. 17 is your answer
  • Chris - In Reply - 2 years ago
    In today's terms, to be a 'surety' for someone, is to be their 'guarantor': as in Proverbs 6:1. In other words, you are prepared to stand by the person in case they default in payment, by putting up the money yourself. A very risky position to take - many have had their 'fingers burned', by doing so.
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    I was studying Law in Michigan when they voted & allowed the horrific crime of "Partial Birth Abortion" it was described in detail. Where the woman would go full term, into natural birth then,._(the act I do not want to even speak about how) they do the horrific crime, Killing the newly born child.

    In the Constitution of the United States it establishes the Right to Life. The Rights to GOD given Rights. Those are the Laws I would start with. I ask you to pray how you can honor GOD ALMIGHTY & protect innocent life.

    2Kings 24:4, Proverbs 6:16-17, Deuteronomy 27:25, Joel 3:19, Psalms 10:8, Isaiah 59:7,

    * Jeremiah 22:3,

    James 1:5-7,
  • Chris - In Reply on Matthew 26 - 2 years ago
    Here are a few for you to consider, Dorothea:

    Leviticus 19:16; Psalm 15:2,3; Psalm 101:5; Proverbs 6:16-19; Proverbs 11:13; Proverbs 16:27,28; Proverbs 17:9; Proverbs 18:8; Proverbs 20:19; Proverbs 26:20; Romans 1:28-30; 2 Corinthians 12:20; 1 Timothy 5:11-13; Titus 2:3.
  • Robert J DeHaan on Proverbs 6 - 2 years ago
    I need Jesus every second, of every minute, of every hour each new day. For sin in me wants what is not of God the Father. Without Jesus beside me, then what matters in this sinful world. Let not the hours be wasted on self, let His commandments guide and protect us and all who follow the Ways of Christ our Kingsman Redeemer. Jesus must be our all in all forevermore.
  • GiGi - In Reply on Proverbs 6 - 2 years ago
    Dear Mary, I will pray for your requests today.

    Dear Lord Jesus, Mary is lifting up those in her family who have turned away from You. Turn them back to faith in You, Lord. Bring conviction on each heart and the grace of faith in them to bring them to repentance and a secure turning back to You with all of their hearts. We ask these things in Your name, Jesus. Amen.
  • Mary house on Proverbs 6 - 2 years ago
    Please keep my family in your prayers they left God and went back out in the world of Satan I have a son that drinks that bad stuff and a soninlaw and a grandson the two was preacher please pray that they will come back home to the father God bless and thank you


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